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Aaron Hotchner x Gender Neutral Reader
a/n: alright, team! this one covers cradle to grave and the eyes have it. i am so excited to share this with you, and we are that much closer to 100. ahh!! (i also mistakenly noted that infirmity was part three and it is in fact part four. while i can write, i made no promises in regard to counting.)
an ajf fic arc that happily stands on its own! (the pieces stand alright on their own as well, for the most part!) one | two | three | four | five | six | seven | eight | nine | ten | eleven
words: 4.2k warnings: canon-typical violence and discussion of violence, language
summary: “if you aren't in over your head, how do you know how tall you are?” - t.s. eliot. a shift, a transition, and a lie.
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Aaron meanders around the store, looking into the glass cases. There’s very little purpose, very little direction. He figures, just like the first time, the right one will make itself known. 
What are you doing? 
He takes a breath, ignoring that pesky little voice in his head, focused on the task at hand.
I’m listening to Haley. What are you doing?
Playing devil’s advocate because you shouldn’t be doing this right now. What are you thinking?
I don’t know. Fuck off. 
The man behind the glass greets him, asking if he’s looking for anything in particular. 
“Yes,” Aaron says, only a little startled out of his thoughts, “though I’m not quite sure what it is, yet.” His gaze wanders. “Can I see that one, please?”
He takes a close look, but it’s not quite right. 
He’ll find it. 
+++
You’re still at your desk when Hotch leaves JJ’s office, late. You throw him a little bit of a smile as he frowns at you. 
Why are you still here? 
You shrug. Work?
He snorts. Sure. and hops up the stairs to his office. There’s a moment where he stops short at the door. With a little bit of a startle, you realize Strauss is in there. 
How did I miss that?
JJ arrives in the bullpen with an armful of files, and you tip your head toward Hotch’s office. She works her distribution, setting folders down, her eyes glued to the window. 
When Strauss leaves, you both busy yourselves, looking up as she passes. 
She greets the both of you with your formal titles, and a chill runs down your spine. 
“Ma’am.”
“Ma’am.” 
You and JJ echo each other, throwing an approximation of a smile in her direction. 
What the fuck? 
You exchange a look with JJ once Strauss is out of sight, nod, and stand. 
Reaching his door, you note that he hasn’t moved. 
“Hotch?”
He’s still as he answers. “Yes?”
Something feels wrong. Really really wrong. “Are you alright?”
“Yes, I’m fine. Everything’s fine.” 
You stand there for a moment as he turns over his shoulder and returns to his desk. He knows better than to meet your eyes - then you’ll know for sure he’s lying. 
Choose your battles. 
Protect him. 
How? 
Just try. 
“Goodnight, Hotch.” 
+++
“You’re kidding.” 
You look up from your file at Spencer, who has a manic little grin on his face. “What?”
“You’re not going to believe this.” 
“Try me.”
He laughs. “Someone started this blog called What Would Carl Sagan Do? and it’s so woefully inaccurate I’m wondering if this is some kind of 100-level school project, it’s -”
Derek walks in and you beam at him. He doesn’t return it. “What’s the case?”
“What case?” You ask, the smile falling from your face. 
“I just got three emails from Hotch about cases.” 
A little confused noise leaves you as you refresh your email once...twice. “I don’t have anything.”
Spencer follows suit. “I didn’t get any emails from Hotch, or did I?” He checks. “Nothing.” 
With a sigh and a huff, Derek puts his things down and walks purposefully toward Hotch’s office. Spencer looks back at you. 
“Wonder what that’s about.”
You hum, looking back at your file to hide your face. “I dunno.” 
What happened last night?
+++
“What’s with Hotch?” Derek catches up to you in the hallway on the way to your hotel room at the end of the first day. Naturally, he’s not at all out of breath. 
You frown at him. “What do you mean?”
You know exactly what he means. 
“You’re a shit liar.” 
You chuff at him and unlock your door, opening it and shepherding him in. “Alright. Fine. He’s stressed.”
“He’s...stressed? Really? That’s all you’ve got for me?”
Throwing your hands up, “It’s not like he tells me everything, Derek.” 
You do know, however, that Jack spent his fourth birthday in protective custody, with only a surveillance feed to satiate Aaron’s need to see his son. 
It sucks. 
“Yeah, but -” He pulls the chair from the little desk and sits backwards on it while you take your shoes off. “ - you know him.” 
“You’ve known him far longer than I have.” 
“It’s different. I’ve been working with him longer, but you know him better.”
You can’t deny that. “Well…” You search and search for a viable explanation. “...maybe he’s just more open to help than he usually is? He knows how good you are at your job, so…” Your mouth twists. “...I think it’s a compliment that he’s relying on you more and asking for your opinion on things.” 
He squints, thinking. He “hmphs” once before standing up, replacing the chair, and heading toward the door. 
“I’ll tell you if I hear anything.” 
No I won’t. 
The side of his mouth lifts. “No, you won’t.” Then, “Goodnight, kid. Get some sleep.” 
+++
Aaron hands him an aggressively annotated copy of the preliminary profile. “Morgan, in order for the profile to be useful it has to generate multiple scenarios about what the unsub is doing. Rewrite it.” 
You have to admit you’ve been looking between each of them like a particularly interesting game of tennis as they volley back and forth. 
It’s tense...and confusing. 
Derek looks completely crestfallen. You wipe the confusion off of your face as best you can and exchange it for something you hope is empathetic. 
Hotch pulls JJ aside to discuss her new findings while Derek joins you at the table. 
“What is with him?”
You shake your head. “I wish I knew.” Your gaze wanders over to him, where he’s watching the pair of you. You look away, focused on the profile Hotch returned to Morgan. 
Your next words are almost a sigh. “I know he pushes hard, but…I just...don't know.” 
+++
You take a deep breath as Derek snatches a piece of paper from the printer and stalks to Hotch’s office. 
Maybe this time, they will kill each other. 
Who would win? 
Hm. Catch-22. They both lose. 
Even then, you’ll always put your money on Aaron. 
You keep your eyes on them and you know JJ’s doing the same. Part of you is always ready to bridge a rift between Aaron and Derek. For some reason or another, they both listen to you when you tell them they’re acting like shitheads. 
So, they listen. Often. 
Hotch’s jaw tenses and, though you can’t hear him, you can tell he’s raising his voice, his tone growing harder. 
That’s it. 
You shove off from the desk and open the door without knocking, interrupting Derek mid-thought. They both look at you and don’t even have the good graces to look caught out. 
“Garcia needs to talk to us.” 
Hotch takes a talking breath, but you cut him off. 
“Now.” You tip your head. “Please,” you add for good measure. 
They brush past the both of you, Derek’s fingers brushing your sleeve as he passes. 
You catch the hem of Aaron’s suit jacket and tug. 
He turns on you - there’s still a lot of fire in his gaze and for a moment, you let yourself be intimidated, looking away from him and bringing your hand back. 
There’s a sigh, and you know he feels bad (just a little). “Yes?”
“You’ll tell me if you want help, right?”
He meets your gaze. There is so much going on behind those deep brown irises you don’t even know where to start. “Yes.” 
Liar.
I miss you. 
Not satisfied, but pacified for now, you turn and lead the way back to the table. You meet Derek’s eyes and shake your head just a little. 
Damn it. 
+++
When you’re done with Penelope, you find an excuse to get Derek alone. Your conversation, somehow, is already heated. 
“He’s just trying to challenge you, Morgan.” Your body language isn’t great, but you can’t bring yourself to care. Arms crossed, tight mouth - you’re the picture of frustration. 
He’s restless - shifting his weight back and forth. “I don’t understand it. He’s on my ass about shit he’s never been on my ass about before.” 
“Did you even hear what I said?”
“Yes, I did.” He stops moving, gesturing sharply with an open, flat hand. “Why is he challenging me, when he’s the one under the gun?” 
You close your eyes and press your fingers to the bridge of your nose. “Did you ever think, just once, maybe, he wants to make sure this team still functions if something happens to him?” 
Derek, finally, has the good sense to deflate. You follow suit, leaning on the desk behind you. 
“We almost lost him a couple of months ago,” you remind him. “If we don’t know everything his position entails, we will not be able to help him if there’s a next time.” 
You step forward, a fond little laugh in your voice. “Derek - you’re a natural leader, a great tactician. There’s no better person for him to build up, just in case.” 
He breaks your gaze, thinking. 
For good measure, you add, “He respects you a great deal. Remember when you said you tolerate him, just for me?” You hold his gaze as it returns to you. “I think that’s bullshit.” 
Another breath. He steps forward, meeting you in the middle of the isolated, small conference room. You offer him a small, closed-mouth smile. 
“Come here, kid.” 
You tuck into his arms with a little laugh. “How did you two manage before I got here?”
You can feel his laugh rumble through him. “You have no idea.” 
+++
Of course, under Derek’s careful tactical direction, everything goes according to plan. Textbook soft entry, no hostages, peaceful takeover, and four rescued victims by the end of it. 
“I love these ones,” you say, standing between Aaron and Derek in the precinct as a family forms before your eyes. 
“Which ones?” Aaron asks. 
“The ones where we all get to go home, and so do they.” 
+++
“Well, I guess it’s time,” Derek says, pushing back from his desk and rising. You’ve both stayed late for one reason or another, with the excuse of paperwork. 
Really, Derek was building his nerve, and really, you were waiting for Aaron. 
You furrow your brow. “Time for what?”
“Hotch wants to see me.” 
“What does he want?”
He laughs a little. “I thought you’d know.” 
You shake your head, so he shrugs and walks up the stairs, knocking twice on Aaron’s door before stepping inside. 
They immediately take a seat, but not at Aaron’s desk. 
Red flag.
You know it’s ridiculous to worry, but nevertheless, you pace around the bullpen as the boys talk upstairs. It looks serious, given the image before you. They both sit forward in their chairs, lit by the warm light from Hotch’s lamp, their elbows on their knees, their hands loosely laced. 
Other than on the plane, you’re not sure you’ve ever seen them sit so close together. 
Aaron didn’t close the door, but still you know to keep your distance. The coffee pot is scrubbed again, the mugs reorganized, and you return to your desk after you run out of tasks, still fidgety. 
“What?” You hear. “No!” 
Your head whips up to the office at Derek’s outburst. They simmer down again after a moment, but continue talking with low brows and lower voices. 
They rise after a few more minutes, and Derek swings out of the door and whistles for you. “Hop to, kid, let’s go.” 
Your brow crinkles, but you jog up the stairs and land in the doorway. “What’s going on?”
Derek and Hotch exchange a look. 
“Have a seat,” Aaron says, finally. You follow instructions, sitting gingerly on the couch. 
What the hell is going on? 
Aaron sits across from you, looking a little lighter than he did this afternoon. You’re hoping it’s good news. 
“I’m resigning as unit chief at the end of this week.” You open your mouth and move to protest with your entire body, but Aaron’s hand stops you. “Wait. Hold on. Feel free to get mad at me when I’m done, but I’m not done yet.”
Is he...smiling? 
No, but it’s close. 
You freeze, waiting. 
He speaks to you like a scared animal, likely remembering the last time he tried to resign and you chased him across the office. “Morgan will be taking over as acting unit chief until we catch Foyet. I will return to my post at the conclusion of the investigation.” 
You still don’t move as you ask, “You’re staying on the team, though, right?” 
He nods. 
So it’s not as bad as you thought. “Why?”
Aaron glances at Morgan, who sits heavily beside you. You settle down and mirror their postures from earlier, feeling a little like a co-conspirator. “I’ve shared this with Morgan and I’ll share it with you, but -”
“- don’t tell anyone. Got it.”
His lips twitch. “Right. The bureau thinks that my ability to lead this team has been compromised.” 
You blink at him, waiting for him to continue. 
“What do you think?” He asks. 
This is a trick. He’s tricking me. 
“What do you mean ‘what do I think?’”
His gaze is definitely a little amused as he watches you. “I mean, what do you think?”
“Hm. That’s helpful.”
Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Derek’s head. 
He’s never seen two people more well-suited for each other. The fact that you’re giving Hotch shit right now to avoid answering the question speaks only to the closeness between you. You push him harder, give him more hell, and have the power to make him more miserable than anyone else. 
And yet, he loves you. It’s so clear. Why can’t you see it? Why can’t he see it?
You’re both profilers, for fuck’s sake. 
Derek’s eyes flicker back and forth, watching the raise of your eyebrows and the upturned corners of Aaron’s mouth. There’s a fondness between you - it rests in your eyes - as you wait each other out. 
God, they’re stupid. It’s written all over their faces. 
Aaron repeats himself, but slower. “Do you think my ability to lead this team has been compromised?”
You sigh, finally breaking his gaze to focus on one of the degrees on Aaron’s wall. “Alright, fine. I have been...concerned about some of your choices in the field the last few weeks.” You meet his eyes again. “Though, I believe I’ve told you as much in the moment, so that shouldn’t come as much of a shock.” 
He snorts and you swat lightly in his direction, purposefully missing him entirely. 
“But I don’t think there’s anyone better to lead this team.” You look over at Morgan. “Not to say you can’t or shouldn’t do it, but -”
Derek interrupts you. “- No, I agree.” 
You nod, turning back to Aaron. “Out of curiosity, what’s the alternative?”
His eyebrows rise for a moment. “The alternative is, I remain in my post until I am inevitably removed. In that instance, the team will be split and budgets will be cut.” 
“Oh.” 
“But,” he continues, “if I promote internally, we can avoid that.” 
It’s unsettling, to be sure, but not the end of the world. You think about it - what the team would look like with Hotch as just “one of you,” and Derek at the helm. 
Your eyes flicker to Aaron, taking in his suit, the strong set of his shoulders, the authoritative brow, the serious mouth. It wouldn’t be quite right, but it is better than the alternative.
God, he’s handsome.
We knew that. 
I know, but look at him. 
You’ve looked too long without talking. Derek noticed. He starts to think, already excited for Hotch to resume his post so he can start a betting pool on how long it’ll take for you two to finally give in to whatever...this is. 
Weirdly, though, he wouldn’t call it tension. It’s more like a blanket - covering the both of you in a kind of warmth that radiates to everyone in the vicinity. 
Derek has no idea how you got into Aaron’s good graces so quickly, why he trusted you so early on, but it’s made him a better leader, a better agent. 
He might even go so far as to say you’ve made him a better man. 
“I think,” you say, slowly, “given the circumstances, that Morgan leading the team until we catch Foyet would be a sound decision.” Your lips twitch into a smile. “And now I get to share the burden of being the one who gets pissed at you when you pull risky shit in the field.” 
Aaron almost smiles, but it’s enough. “Alright, then.” He stands and so does Morgan, so you follow suit. He crosses around to his desk, where two massive boxes of files are waiting. 
“If you intend on getting any sleep tonight,” he tells you, “I would recommend you leave now.” 
You suppress a smile. “And miss all this?” You gesture to both the file boxes and the boys. “No way.” 
+++
The next morning is...hectic, to say the least. 
Strauss stole Morgan the second he arrived, so naturally Penelope came up to the bullpen to keep tabs. “So, did anyone say why Hotch is stepping down?” 
You keep your eyes on your work, pretending to be only half-tuned into the conversation. There are eyes on you for a minute before you look up and cursorily shake your head. 
“All Morgan said this morning is that it’s happening,” JJ says. “Business as usual, I guess.” 
Emily’s not so easily appeased, sitting on the corner of your desk. “So we’re just supposed to move forward without any discussion?”
 Oh, there was a discussion. You just weren’t part of it. 
You look up for real and put your pen down. “I think we’d have to prepare for anything after Foyet, don’t you?”
The rest of you quiet down as Hotch descends the stairs. You’re the only one who keeps your eyes on him. 
No need to pretend you’re busy when he already knows you’re paying attention. 
“...I’ll have all my things cleared out and it will be all yours.” 
No. 
Your brow crinkles and you look up at the office. It feels...wrong, somehow, to imagine that room without its shelves of legal citation books, legal dictionaries…
Legal this, legal that. 
Could he be any more of a lawyer?
No. 
“Hotch, I don’t want your office.” Their voices are low, but they carry - especially to shamelessly eavesdropping ears. 
Strauss starts talking, but honestly, it just sounds like static. 
“All due respect, Ms. Strauss,” Derek says, “but both of you have trusted me to step in as acting unit chief. I’m asking you to respect my decision.” 
You drop your head down to your paperwork, a proud smile pushing at the corner of your lips. 
“I’ve decided I don’t want Hotch’s office. That’s where he belongs. If necessary, we can discuss this again at a later date, but right now, we really need to get started on this case.” 
He looks up, and you all pretend to be doing something else. It’s a ridiculous showing, really. 
“Guys. Grab Rossi.” 
Emily huffs, jumping off your desk. “I got ‘im.” 
+++
It’s weird at first as you all settle in and get used to looking at Derek more often. He’s doing well - asking good questions on the plane and stepping in when you arrive at the precinct. 
Aaron still looks like the authority in the room, but that’s just how he is. There’s more than one occasion where you’re forced to hide your smile as he intentionally and mindfully defers to Derek in front of the local officers. 
It’s not actually funny in any comedic sense, but the strangeness of it all gets to you a little bit. 
You’re driving (another perk of Derek being in charge - he lets you drive) while Hotch takes shotgun. You’ve just hung up the phone, where Hotch said again “It’s your call, Morgan.” 
It made you smile, and now you’re under fire. 
“What’s funny?”
You check (again) that you’re the only two in the car. You are. “It’s just weird. I’m getting used to it.” 
“What? That we’re the same rank?”
Honey, we’ll never be the same rank. 
“Sure,” you reply, dubious. “Like you and I are in the same league at all.” 
He shakes his head, playing off the twinge of hurt that doesn’t come from his freshly healing wounds.
In his mind, you’re right in more ways than one. 
That train of thought led him down a rabbit hole he’s now punishing himself for. Why he should even have half a thought dedicated to any of that is completely beyond him...
“What’s wrong?” 
He shakes his head. “Nothing.” 
You glance at him out of the corner of your eye. “You know I can tell you’re lying to me without even looking at you, right?”
A sigh. “Oh, yeah?”
DIdn’t think he’d answer that one. 
“You have a tell when you’re lying to me, specifically. It’s different from your other tells.” 
“Is that so?” He sounds skeptical. 
“Mhmm.”
You can almost feel him squint. “Are you going to elaborate on that?”
“Nope. If I do, you’ll stop doing it and I have to start from scratch.” You shoot him another glance and the corner of your mouth tips up. “And I don’t take orders from you, anymore, so you can’t make me.” 
His fond eye roll finally breaks you, and you laugh at the absurdity of it all. He doesn’t break himself, but it’s the thought that counts. 
Your laughter is the best reward to him, anyway. 
+++
Goddamn it, Aaron. 
If you had a dime for every time you’ve had that thought in the last eight weeks, you’d have...a shitload of dimes. 
You’re chasing after him, because of course he ran after the unsub without backup. It’s like he’s on a mission to give you hypertension. 
“FBI! Get off her!” You hear his voice, rough and authoritative (you, of course, ignore what that does to your anatomy) and round the corner. 
You find him grappling with the unsub, cuffing him. 
With a sigh, you take over - holstering your weapon and hauling the unsub to his feet. 
Derek walks over with Emily after you’ve passed the unsub to the local officers for processing. “What happened?”
“Hotch took him down by himself.” 
“You’re kidding.” 
You press your mouth into a thin, facetious line. “Do I look like I’m kidding?”
Derek shakes his head with a huff that’s almost a laugh and returns to Hotch, who clarifies the aforementioned events. He looks over at you. “Did you tell him you were right behind me?”
You just stare at him. 
Derek takes over, saving you the trouble of getting too annoyed with Aaron. “You should have waited for backup.” 
Unit Chief Derek, in with the feedback. Very nice. 
You look unfairly smug, but the look drops off your face when Hotch answers, almost smiling, “Would you have?”
You're confronted with an image - Aaron, ten years ago, only a little older than you, a young, hotshot agent with a sarcastic streak a mile wide. 
Poor Gideon...
Derek just turns with another sigh, off to do whatever acting unit chiefs do. 
Emily manages to hold her laugh until he’s out of earshot. Hotch, passing her, just smirks. “What?”
She shakes her head. “Nothing.”
+++
Alright, that’s enough. 
You rise from your desk and pat Derek’s shoulder on your way past him. “Proud of you.” It’s casual, almost a throwaway line. If it was any kind of serious, you know he’d hate it. 
A little staccato hum leaves his throat. He’s still working, and you leave him to it. 
You knock twice on Hotch’s office door before letting yourself in. “Hey.”
“Hey,” he replies but doesn’t look up. 
You sit at one of the chairs and prop your chin on the heel of your hand. “How late are you staying?”
“You should go home. it’s late.” His response is absent, at best. You’re not even sure he actually heard you. 
“Hey.”
He finally looks up, his brown eyes tired and bloodshot. “What?” His tone isn’t unkind, but it isn’t patient, either. 
“You should go home. It’s late.” 
He heaves a sigh and lets it out through his mouth, choosing not to acknowledge your use of his words against him. “Can’t.”
You hum, looking over his nameplate to the files on his desk. “He’ll still be there tomorrow, you know.”
“That’s the problem.” 
“Fine,” you relent. “Then let me help.” 
He doesn’t protest when you reach across the desk for the first case file, so you figure you have tacit permission.
Maybe, just maybe, if you learn this case backwards and forwards, too, something will change. 
Your love for the man across from you makes that lie easier to swallow. 
+++
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yourmuseco · 6 years ago
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I didn’t want to do this but I am going to have to make this known to the RPC, specifically the Disney RPC, because this is becoming incredibly disheartening. This is a callout about forgottenfriendshiphq copying my rp and other rps as well as being relentless with trying to join my rp and getting my members to join hers. Below the cut is receipts and evidence. 
At first I thought I was making something out of nothing. I used to run a disney rp called Sandur-RP (and its still accessible by link). We were a disney/cartoon rp and as soon as we released a certain character, we began receiving anons about how our bio did not accurately represent the character. I will link the character right here from sandur. We then got an application and, being as trusting as we were, the person completely rewrote the character. They did not follow the bio (which was something that rp asked for) and was causing many problems. We continuously received messages from other characters about them pressuring for ships. Oh well, that RP died. Right? 
So, I began a new rp called coronaislandhq. We are currently going strong but when we put out Angelica Pickles, lo and behold we received more anons about how her skeleton was inaccurate to who she was as a person. This anon was targeted RIGHT AT ME despite us having two admins. Here are those receipts.
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So, we handled it as best we could. Then we got an application. In this application it was very small but completely went against the skeleton. As I said in one of the answers above, I was okay with muns taking control of the character for themselves but through development. The app said basically exactly what the second ask did that she humiliates coco and basically word for word whats above. 
But, we carefully denied the application MAINLY because they said that they were running 2 rps. I am running an rp and am also an active member in another rp and I’m ready to pull my damn hair out so I told them if their schedule cleared up then they could reapply but for right now they would not be accepted into the rp.
NOW, I noticed on the blog that they applied with a link to one of their RP’s. Going to this RP I started noticing funny things. One, the girl who applied for the character (and was also the admin of forgottenfriendshiphq) was playing THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER (angelica) IN HER OWN RP WITH THE SAME FC THAT SHE REQUESTED FOR OUR RP. I was a bit shook. That didn’t bother me though, I simply went on my way. 
NOW, It should be noted that this rp popped up about a week or two after our rp started up. Maybe even longer after that. The theme when I went onto their page was incredibly simple. It was a purple and very very simple. This is important to note because after we denied the application for this person, forgottenfriendshiphq started copying our RP. Here are the receipts:
MY RP (which I added this theme the DAY I created it):
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The exact same theme. But, you know what? Whatever. I don’t mind. Its just a fucking theme. HOWEVER, I started noticing something. Every single time they got an ask about a FC suggestion, our FCs were suggested after we had posted those 
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At first I was like, its ok. They’re just faceclaims right? But the thing is THERE ARE SO MANY SUGGESTIONS THEY HAVE COPIED FROM OUR CHARACTERS. But, again, being who I am, I was just going to let it go. 
CUE THE GODDAMN ANONS WE HAVE BEEN GETTING. For the past few days, the person we denied (who is admin j of forgottenfriendshiphq) has been commenting on our characters saying things like ‘i wish i could take her’ and things like that plus liking every single one of our characters. Whatever, who gives a shit? 
BUT THEN WE GET THESE:
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I then went to some old RPs that this person was a part of and having discussed them with MULTIPLE admins of other RPs, it has been noted that this is VERY NORMAL BEHAVIOR for them. 
So, maybe I’m overreacting but maybe not. I would like everyone to just be aware of whats happening. K. Thanks. They’ve been blocked from my RP and no drama is currently happening so ayyy!! At least theres that.
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keelanrosa · 8 years ago
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I tried So Hard to do literally anything else today but kept getting distracted.
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(Also look at me wildly underestimating the count, spoiler alert for this entirely non-fiction rant: i remembered a million was the commonly accepted number but for some reason thought someone had made a low estimate of only 800k and didn’t want that, of all things, to be something I got in a twitter war over? But nah the lowest possible number is 985k and does anybody seriously think that was all? so at that point just. fucking round up and say a million)
Anyway i got Pepsi (not my standard “keelan is yelling about irish history again” sleep deprivation but as it’s basically a sedative for my adhd ass it’ll do) and a willingness to yell about potatoes (lol do i ever not), so here we go.
(none of this is new to anyone who has followed me for more than a few months to the rest of y’all surprise this is Just What Happens sometimes all manner of shit will get me yelling about the Irish potato famine of the 1840s until i pass out)
LET’S START WITH SOME WELL-KNOWN CONTEXT: the Irish potato famine was, well, caused by a lack of potatoes. Said lack of potatoes was the result of a blight which caused the majority of potatoes in Ireland to go bad. Tragic natural disaster, right?
LESSER KNOWN CONTEXT: The blight affected potatoes throughout America and Europe. The specific strand of blight (the HERB-1 strand of Phytophthora infestans, for the agriculture geeks) is believed to have originated in Mexico and spread as far as Poland. Along the way it caused massive potato-crop failure in several other countries and, not counting Ireland, killed about a hundred thousand people.
“Whoa, that’s interesting. Why do we only hear about it affecting the Irish, then?” asks the hypothetical person who did not pay attention to the earlier parenthetical spoiler alert.
Because in Ireland alone it killed closer to one million people. (Census data suggests 985 thousand. For a variety of reasons relevant to the limits of mid-nineteenth-century census data, especially as regards to poverty-stricken rural people ie the people the Famine was most likely to affect, the census data is generally considered inaccurately low. The highest estimate I’ve seen was historian Joel Mokyr suggesting it could have been up to 1.9 million. Tldr we don’t know and never will, but most history nerds consider “about a million” Accurate Enough.)
One million people was about one-eighth of the Irish population, even before taking into account the number of people who left because “hey, you know what other countries have? Food.” Generally speaking, a famine is a Huge Fucking Deal if it kills 5% of the population, so over 10%? Yeah. Massive fucking famine… which only affected Ireland to such an extent.
Belgium got the second hardest hit (40,000-50,000 deaths attributed to the blight), and their overall population still went up during the Famine. Not as much as it might otherwise, but they didn’t lose an eighth of the population either.
(y’know what else went up during the Famine? Exports of food from Ireland. But that’s for later.)
“Why did it kill so disproportionately many Ir-”
RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION.
“…that sounds fake.”
Nope.
For the Religious Discrimination bit of context: Ireland was still under British rule at the time. The British government was not known for religious tolerance. Among other things, they weren’t keen on Irish Catholics. (They weren’t on the best terms with Irish Protestants, either, because Irish, but they were on better terms with them, because Protestant.)
Things the British penal laws prohibited for Irish Catholics include: entering a profession, leasing or purchasing land, accepting land as a gift from a Protestant, renting land worth more than thirty shillings, or reaping any profit exceeding one-third their rent. (That’s just the stuff most obviously related to the ability to buy and/or grow food; they also couldn’t vote, worship as a Catholic, get an education, own a horse of greater value than five pounds… it’s a long list.) Some of these laws were revoked by the 1840s, but banning people from getting an education or owning Anything of Value for centuries means they’re not exactly gonna have fields of corn and free-range cattle within a generation. Many of them remained poor tenants living on very small patches of land owned by Protestant landowners (most of whom were British, a fair number of whom didn’t even live in Ireland), made to earn their rent working on their landlord’s farms and hoping the already-tiny corner of land they lived on wouldn’t be further subdivided for Even More Corn.
Here’s where potatoes come in: cheap, nutritionally dense, and easy as fuck to grow - both because they don’t take much effort and because they will grow Basically Anywhere, regardless of soil quality or space. So if your Protestant landlord took the last bit of good soil of land permitted you for a new fucking cowshed? That’s fine, you can still grow potatoes in the garbage-can-sized pile of sawdust he left.
This is how Ireland ended up with one-third of its population (and, specifically, a predominately if not exclusively Catholic third) living on potatoes by 1845.
Needless to say if many people are living off a single crop, and a blight happens to said crop, there’s a high chance of MUCH STARVATION resulting.
There are plenty of ways to prevent said starvation. Potatoes aren’t even an Irish crop; the Irish were doing fine without them for centuries before they came to Europe from South America. And other food in Ireland was still doing fine in the 1840s. Super fine. “Exports of beef and corn to England went up” fine.
(This is about the point where historians start debating over whether to treat the Famine as a natural disaster or a genocide, “no we are not using the term lightly, yes we literally mean genocide, as in an intentional attempt to murder or otherwise destroy a specific group of people based on national/racial/religious ties, that kind of genocide.”)
The British “relief efforts” were something Paul Ryan would have approved of. Giving food to the poor would keep them from having any initiative to work. Also, it was the Irish people’s fault they were poor to begin with, because poverty is a result of laziness and not, like, a couple centuries of oppression designed to limit economic opportunity. (ENGLAND had poor people, but most of the country was doing all right. Poor Irish PROTESTANTS existed, but not in as large numbers. Therefore this problem the Irish Catholics had was because there was something wrong with Catholics and not a problem caused by the British and/or Protestants.) Trevelyan straight-up gave copies of The Wealth of Nations to his subordinates when he was heading the relief effort. (The Wealth of Nations, for those unfamiliar with it, is one of the first books on capitalism and the monetary efficiency of the free market. It is not a book on feeding the poor during a famine.) Workhouses were initially required for anyone who wanted food from the government and simultaneously designed to be complete fucking I-would-rather-eat-grass hellholes to discourage anyone from actually using them. (Workhouses also didn’t exist in some areas where the Famine hit the hardest, but were still a requirement for the Irish desperate enough to seek government assistance.) Soup kitchens eventually became a thing because a) Quakers are, as a general rule, not complete dicks and b) the British realized soup kitchens would be cheaper for them than workhouses, but the government ones were inefficient and requests for food which could be cooked at home were a sign of not being poor enough because you’re asking for government food while still having the bare resources necessary to cook? Um, food stamp soup kitchen fraud much??? Look guys, this is clearly lazy people looking for a handout… Meanwhile disease was going up everywhere as immune systems were weakened by malnutrition and people crammed into crowded workhouses or queued up in crowded soup kitchens or moved to crowded cities in a desperate attempt to find work. Mass graves were a thing, as were people dropping dead on the side of the road while they sought work or food and being left there by friends or family who had no way to bury them.
But worry not, the Irish British economy was fine, guys. Because as already mentioned, beef and corn exports went up, for reasons which would be entirely expected when the guy running the relief effort is using The Wealth of Nations as a how-to guide on feeding the poor.
The people in Ireland who were most affected by the Famine were also people who couldn’t have afforded anything beyond potatoes in the past; limiting the price of corn or beef to something the poor Irish could afford would have been interfering with the free market and would have resulted in lower profits for the predominately British landowners. Attempts by Peel to buy cheaper maize from America to distribute at lower prices in Ireland were likewise struck down as interfering with “the regular operation of merchants”. Meanwhile, in the rest of Northern Europe, there weren’t as many people who had been living exclusively on potatoes, but there was still enough potato failure for a higher demand in other types of food and Ireland had plenty of corn and cattle just lying around not being eaten by starving Irish. Why import food from a country not struck by famine when Ireland was closer and just as cheap?
(This is where some historians argue the Famine wasn’t genocide; genocide requires an intentional attempt to destroy a group of people. Sure, the British designed their penal laws to ruin Catholics and their way of life, even if it killed them; and Cromwell thought slaughtering the Irish was God’s work; and Trevelyan, the man put in charge of food distribution, considered the actual Famine less an issue than “the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people”; but the actions which killed and displaced millions were at worst a negligent prioritization of economics over lives.)
Anyway, it’s lovely to live in a country where discrimination against religious minorities and the poor isn’t active government policy and keeping people alive is more important than money. I’m so fucking glad we learned from history like this and we now respect the Choctaw who donated to Irish famine relief efforts more than we respect Andrew Jackson who gave the Choctaw reason to know what government-sanctioned death was like.
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anthonyekoehler · 6 years ago
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Allied Collection Services of California
Debt collectors like Allied Collection Services of California cannot harass you over a debt. You have rights under the law, and we will stop the harassment once and for all.
THE BEST PART IS…
If Allied Collection Services of California violated the law, you will get money damages and they will pay your attorney’s fees and costs. You won’t owe us a dime for our services. Plus, some of our clients also receive debt relief and cleaned-up credit reports. You have nothing to lose! Call us today at 888-572-0176 for a free consultation.
Who is Allied Collection Services of California?
Allied Collection Services of California is a third-party debt collection agency based in Chatworth, California. Founded in 2000, Allied has managed over one-million accounts with over $3.5 billion in total value, but is not accredited by the Better Business Bureau (BBB).
Allied Collection Services of California’s Address, Phone Number, and Contact Information
Allied Collection Services of California is located at 9301 Oakdale Ave., Suite 205, Chatsworth, CA 91311. The main telephone number is 877-714-8191 and the main website is www.acsca.com/.
Phone Numbers Used by Allied Collection Services of California
Like many debt collection agencies, Allied Collection Services of California may use many different phone numbers to contact debtors. For an advanced search, visit www.agrussconsumerlaw.com/ and click “Number Search” in the “Lookup” dropdown menu. Here are some phone numbers Allied Collection Services of California may be calling you from:
818-933-3373
877-714-8191
Allied Collection Services of California Lawsuits
If you want to know just how unhappy consumers are with Allied Collection Services of California, take a look at the lawsuits filed against the agency on the Public Access to Court Electronic Records (“PACER”). PACER is the U.S.’s federal docket which lists federal complaints filed against a wide range of companies. A search for the agency will display over 20 lawsuits filed in the U.S., and these typically involve violations of consumer rights and/or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA).
Allied Collection Services of California Complaints
The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) is a federal law which applies to everyone in the United States. In other words, everyone is protected under the FDCPA, and this Act is a laundry list of what debt collectors can and cannot do while collecting a debt, as well as things they must do while collecting debt. If Allied Collection Services of California is harassing you over a debt, you have rights under the FDCPA.
The Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA) protects you from robocalls, which are those annoying, automated, recorded calls that computers make all day long. You can tell it’s a robocall because either no one responds on the other end of the line, or there is a delay when you pick up the phone before a live person responds. You can receive $500 per call if Allied Collection Services of California violates the TCPA. Have you received a message from this agency that sounds pre-recorded or cut-off at the beginning or end? These are tell-tale signs that the message is pre-recorded, and if you have these messages on your cell phone, you may have a TCPA case against the agency.
The Electronic Fund Transfer Act (EFTA) protects electronic payments that are deducted from bank accounts. If Allied Collection Services of California took unauthorized deductions from your bank account, you may have an EFTA claim against the agency. Allied Collection Services of California, like most collection agencies, wants to set up recurring payments from consumers; imagine how much money it can earn if hundreds, even thousands, of consumers electronically pay them $50 – $100 or more per month. If you agreed to this type of reoccurring payment, the agency must follow certain steps to comply with the EFTA. Did Allied Collection Services of California continue to take electronic payments after you told them to stop? Did they take more money from your checking account than you agreed to?  If so, we can discuss your rights and potential case under the EFTA.
The Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) works to ensure that no information reported to your credit report is false. In essence, it gives you the right to dispute those inaccuracies that you find on your credit report. We’ve handled many cases in which a debt collection agency reported debt on a consumer’s credit report to obtain leverage over the consumer. If Allied Collection Services of California is on your credit report, they may tell you that they’ll remove the debt from your credit report if you pay it; this is commonly known as “pay for delete.” If the original creditor is on your report rather than the debt collector, and you pay off the debt, both entities should accurately report this on your credit report.
Several states also have laws to provide its citizens an additional layer of protection. For example, if you live in California, Florida, Michigan, Montana, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Texas, or Wisconsin, you may be able to add a state-law claim to your federal law claim above. North Carolina, for example, has one of the most consumer-friendly statutes in the country: if you live in NC and are harassed over a debt, you may receive $500 – $4,000 in damages per violation. We work with a local counsel in NC and our NC clients have received some great results in debt collection harassment cases. If you live in North Carolina and are being harassed by a debt collector, you have leverage to obtain a great settlement.
How do we Use the Law to Help You?
We will use state and federal laws to immediately stop Allied Collection Services of California’s debt collection. We will send a cease-and-desist letter to stop the harassment today, and if Allied Collection Services of California violates the FDCPA, EFTA, FCRA, or any state law, you may be entitled to money damages. For example, under the FDCPA, you may receive up to $1,000 in damages plus actual damages. The FDCPA also has a fee-shift provision, which means the debt collector will pay your attorney’s fees and costs. If you have a TCPA case against the agency, we will handle it based on a contingency fee and you won’t pay us a dime unless you win.
THAT’S NOT ALL…
We have helped thousands of consumers stop phone calls. We know how to stop the harassment and get you money damages. Once again: you will not pay us a dime for our services. We will help you based on a fee-shift provision and/or contingency fee, and the debt collector will pay your attorney’s fees and costs.
What if Allied Collection Services of California is on my Credit Report?
Based on our experience, some debt collectors may credit-report, which means one may mark your credit report with the debt they are trying to collect. In addition to or instead of the debt collector, the original creditor may also be on your credit report in a separate entry, and it’s important to properly identify these entities because you will want both to update your credit report if or when you pay off the debt.
THE GOOD NEWS IS…
If Allied Collection Services of California is on your credit report, we can help you dispute it. Mistakes on your credit report can be very costly: along with causing you to pay higher interest rates, you may be denied credit, insurance, a rental home, a loan, or even a job because of these mistakes. Some mistakes may include someone else’s information on your credit report, inaccurate public records, stale collection accounts, or even being a victim of identity theft. If you have a mistake on your credit report, there is a process to dispute it, and my office will help you obtain your credit report and dispute any inaccurate information.
REMEMBER…
If a credit reporting agency violates its obligations under the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), you may be entitled to statutory damages up to $1,000, and the credit reporting agency will be required to fix the error. The FCRA also has a fee-shift provision, which means the credit reporting agency will pay your attorney’s fees and costs. You won’t owe us a dime for our services. We have helped hundreds of consumers fix inaccurate information on their credit reports, and we’re ready to help you, too.
Complaints against Allied Collection Services of California
Here are some of the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reviews and complaints against Allied Collection Services of California:
“Allied Collection Services continues to furnish false information regarding a debt that I never had with a sports club. This has been verified by the GM of the sports club, that I closed my account in late 2012 with no outstanding balance. Furnishing false and misleading information to the credit bureaus regarding a fabricated debt.”
“[Allied] is not an assignee for the purported agreement, and they have not offered any evidence to the contrary as Request of verification and validation sent to collection agency. I also requested that they send a copy of my letter to the original creditor notifying them that I dispute this debt so that they cannot report it as delinquent on my credit report. I also requested that they ask all credit bureaus to which they subscribe to insert a notation on my credit file that I dispute this debt.”
“They’ve ruined my credit over a debt that is not mine. I had some squatters move into my vacation house near Seattle in 2012 who used my mail to order all sorts of things. Credit cards, cell phones…you name it. Most of it has been relatively painless to take care of, but Allied Collection Services hasn’t budged. I don’t even know the company they’re collecting on…it’s clearly not mine. I’ve called several times over the past couple of months and explained the situation, have disputed the item on my credit, and have faxed a police report on the issue. The collection still sits there damaging my credit.”
Cases We’ve Handled Against Allied Collection Services of California
I think you’ll agree when we say that threats and harassment from collection agencies can be pretty intimidating. However, we can stop the harassment and get you money damages under the law, and the collection agency will pay your attorneys’ fees and costs. Here are two cases we’ve handled against Allied Collection Services of California:
Janann Q. v. Allied Collection Services of California – In December 2018, Janann of Tarrant County, Texas, filed a claim against Allied Collection Services of California for violations of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) and Texas Debt Collection Act (TDCA). Complaints consisted of harassing phone calls for a debt the plaintiff did not owe based on mistaken identity, and ongoing harassment after the plaintiff requested that the calls stop. 
Eugene D. v. Allied Collection Services of California – In October 2013, Eugene of Orange County, Florida, filed a claim against Allied Collection Services of California for violations of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA), Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), and Florida Consumer Collection Practices Act (FCCPA). Similar to case one, complaints consisted of harassing phone calls for a debt the plaintiff did not owe based on mistaken identity, as well as robocalls and ongoing harassment after the plaintiff requested that the calls stop.
What Our Clients Say about Us
Agruss Law Firm has over 825 outstanding client reviews through Yotpo, an A+ BBB rating, and over 110 five-star reviews on Google. Here’s what some of our clients have to say about us:
“Michael Agruss handled two settlements for me with great results and he handled them quickly. He also settled my sister’s case quickly and now her debt is clear. I highly recommend Michael.”
“Agruss Law Firm was very helpful, they helped me solve my case regarding the unwanted calls. I would highly recommend them. Thank you very much Mike Agruss!”
“Agruss Law Firm was very helpful to me and my veteran father! We were harassed daily and even called names for a loan that was worthless! Agruss stepped in and not only did they stop harassing, they stopped calling all together!! Even settled it so I was paid back for the problems they caused!”
Can Allied Collection Services of California Sue Me?
Although anyone can sue anyone for any reason, we have not seen Allied Collection Services of California sue consumers, and it’s likely that the agency does not sue because they don’t always own the debt they are attempting to collect, and would also need to hire a lawyer, or use in-house counsel, to file a lawsuit. It’s also likely that the agency collects debt throughout the country, and it would be quite difficult to have lawyers, or a law firm, licensed in every state. However, there are collection agencies that do sue consumers; for example, Midland Credit Management is one of the largest junk-debt buyers, and it also collects and sues on debt. Still, it is less likely for a debt collector to sue you than for an original creditor to hire a lawyer or collection firm to sue you. If Allied Collection Services of California has threatened to sue you, contact Agruss Law Firm, LLC as soon as possible.
Can Allied Collection Services of California Garnish my Wages?
No, unless they have a judgment. If Allied Collection Services of California has not sued you, then the agency cannot get a judgment. Barring limited situations (usually involving debts owed to the government for student loans, taxes, etc.), a company must have a judgment in order to garnish someone’s wages. In short, we have not seen this agency file a lawsuit against a consumer, so the agency cannot garnish your wages, minus the exceptions listed above. If Allied Collection Services of California has threatened to garnish your wages, contact our office right away.
Allied Collection Services of California Settlement
If you want to settle a debt with Allied Collection Services of California, ask yourself these questions first:
Do I really owe this debt?
Is this debt within the statute of limitations?
Is this debt on my credit report?
If I pay this debt, will Allied Collection Services of California remove it from my credit report?
If I pay this debt, will the original creditor remove it from my credit report?
If I pay this debt, will I receive confirmation in writing from Allied Collection Services of California for the payment and settlement terms?
These are not the only things to consider when dealing with debt collectors. We are here to help you answer the questions above, and much more. Whether it’s harassment, settlement, pay-for-delete, or any other legal issue with Allied Collection Services of California, we at Agruss Law Firm are here to help you.
Top Debt Collection Violations
Debt collection laws provide a laundry list of what collectors can and cannot do while collecting a debt. Based on our years of experience handling thousands of debt collection harassment cases, here’s what collection agencies most often do to violate the law:
Called you about a debt you do not owe.
Called you at work after you told them you cannot receive calls at work.
Left you a message without identifying the company’s name.
Left you a message without disclosing that the call is from a debt collector.
Called third-parties (family, friends, coworkers, or neighbors) even though the collection agency knows your contact information.
Disclosed to a third-party (family, friends, coworkers, or neighbors) that you owe a debt.
Contacted you after you said to stop calling.
Threatened you with legal action (such as a lawsuit or wage garnishment).
Called you before 8:00 AM or after 9:00 PM.
Continued to call you after you have told the collector you cannot pay the debt.
Communicated (phone or letter) with you after you filed for bankruptcy.
Failed to mark the debt on your credit report as disputed after you disputed the debt.
Frequently Asked Questions
Do I have to pay your fees and costs for helping me with my consumer rights case? No. We handle consumer rights cases based on a fee-shift provision and/or a contingency fee. That means either the other side pays your fees and costs, or we take a percentage of your recovery. Whether it’s a fee-shift case or a contingency-fee case, we don’t get paid unless you get paid, and you’ll never owe us a penny for our time.
What are the damages I can get under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act? If a collection agency violates any section of the FDCPA, you are entitled to damages up to $1,000.00. You may also be entitled to actual damages if the violation caused you out-of-pocket expenses. For example, if a collection agency threatens you with legal action to induce you to pay the debt, you may be able to get your payment back as actual damages.
What are the damages under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act? You can get $500 per robocall, or $1,500 per robocall if the robocalls were willful. In any type of settlement, Defendants often pay much less than $500 per call. However, if there are 50 calls at issue, even at $250 per call, your case could settle for $12,500.00.
What type of debt is covered under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act? Only consumer debt, such as personal, family, and household debts. For example, money you owe on a personal credit card, an auto loan, a medical bill, or a utility bill. The FDCPA does not cover debts you incurred to run a business, or debts regarding unpaid taxes, or traffic tickets.
Does the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act apply to banks or credit card companies? No.  Only third-party debt collectors are bound by the FDCPA. Original creditors, such as banks and credit card companies, are not bound by the FDCPA.
Are there state laws that protect me from original creditors? Yes! Several states also have laws that provide its citizens an additional layer of protection. If you live in California, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Nevada, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas, or Wisconsin, you have additional state-law rights.
Are mistakes on credit reports common? Yes! Are you one of the 40 million Americans who have a mistake on their credit report? Mistakes on your credit report can be very costly.  Along with causing you to pay higher interest rates, you may be denied credit, insurance, a rental home, a loan, or even a job because of these mistakes. Some mistakes may include someone else’s information on your credit report, inaccurate public records, stale collection accounts, or maybe you were a victim of identity theft.
What do I do if I have a mistake on my credit report? If you have a mistake on your credit report, there is a process to dispute them. My office will help you pull your credit report and dispute any inaccurate information. If a credit reporting agency violates its obligations under the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), you may be entitled to statutory damages up to $1,000.00, plus the credit reporting agency will be required to fix the error.  The FCRA also has a fee-shift provision, which means the credit reporting agency pays your attorney’s fees and costs. Therefore, you will not pay me a penny for my time. To speed up the process, please get a free copy of your credit report at www.annualcreditreport.com. You can also learn more about the FCRA and your rights at http://www.agrussconsumerlaw.com/practices/common-credit-report-errors/.
Share your Complaints against Allied Collection Services of California Below
We encourage you to post your complaints about Allied Collection Services of California. Sharing your complaints against this agency can help other consumers understand what to do when this company starts calling. Sharing your experience may help someone else!
HERE’S THE DEAL!
If you are being harassed by Allied Collection Services of California over a debt, you may be entitled to money damages – up to $1,000 for harassment, and $500 – $1,500 for illegal robocalls. Under state and federal laws, we will help you based on a fee-shift provision and/or contingency fee, which means the debt-collector pays your attorney’s fees and costs. You won’t owe us a dime for our services. We have settled thousands of debt collection harassment cases, and we’re prepared to help you, too. Contact Agruss Law Firm at 888-572-0176 to stop the harassment once and for all.
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Allied Collection Services of California
Debt collectors like Allied Collection Services of California cannot harass you over a debt. You have rights under the law, and we will stop the harassment once and for all.
THE BEST PART IS…
If Allied Collection Services of California violated the law, you will get money damages and they will pay your attorney’s fees and costs. You won’t owe us a dime for our services. Plus, some of our clients also receive debt relief and cleaned-up credit reports. You have nothing to lose! Call us today at 888-572-0176 for a free consultation.
Who is Allied Collection Services of California?
Allied Collection Services of California is a third-party debt collection agency based in Chatworth, California. Founded in 2000, Allied has managed over one-million accounts with over $3.5 billion in total value, but is not accredited by the Better Business Bureau (BBB).
Allied Collection Services of California’s Address, Phone Number, and Contact Information
Allied Collection Services of California is located at 9301 Oakdale Ave., Suite 205, Chatsworth, CA 91311. The main telephone number is 877-714-8191 and the main website is www.acsca.com/.
Phone Numbers Used by Allied Collection Services of California
Like many debt collection agencies, Allied Collection Services of California may use many different phone numbers to contact debtors. For an advanced search, visit www.agrussconsumerlaw.com/ and click “Number Search” in the “Lookup” dropdown menu. Here are some phone numbers Allied Collection Services of California may be calling you from:
818-933-3373
877-714-8191
Allied Collection Services of California Lawsuits
If you want to know just how unhappy consumers are with Allied Collection Services of California, take a look at the lawsuits filed against the agency on the Public Access to Court Electronic Records (“PACER”). PACER is the U.S.’s federal docket which lists federal complaints filed against a wide range of companies. A search for the agency will display over 20 lawsuits filed in the U.S., and these typically involve violations of consumer rights and/or the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA).
Allied Collection Services of California Complaints
The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) is a federal law which applies to everyone in the United States. In other words, everyone is protected under the FDCPA, and this Act is a laundry list of what debt collectors can and cannot do while collecting a debt, as well as things they must do while collecting debt. If Allied Collection Services of California is harassing you over a debt, you have rights under the FDCPA.
The Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA) protects you from robocalls, which are those annoying, automated, recorded calls that computers make all day long. You can tell it’s a robocall because either no one responds on the other end of the line, or there is a delay when you pick up the phone before a live person responds. You can receive $500 per call if Allied Collection Services of California violates the TCPA. Have you received a message from this agency that sounds pre-recorded or cut-off at the beginning or end? These are tell-tale signs that the message is pre-recorded, and if you have these messages on your cell phone, you may have a TCPA case against the agency.
The Electronic Fund Transfer Act (EFTA) protects electronic payments that are deducted from bank accounts. If Allied Collection Services of California took unauthorized deductions from your bank account, you may have an EFTA claim against the agency. Allied Collection Services of California, like most collection agencies, wants to set up recurring payments from consumers; imagine how much money it can earn if hundreds, even thousands, of consumers electronically pay them $50 – $100 or more per month. If you agreed to this type of reoccurring payment, the agency must follow certain steps to comply with the EFTA. Did Allied Collection Services of California continue to take electronic payments after you told them to stop? Did they take more money from your checking account than you agreed to?  If so, we can discuss your rights and potential case under the EFTA.
The Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) works to ensure that no information reported to your credit report is false. In essence, it gives you the right to dispute those inaccuracies that you find on your credit report. We’ve handled many cases in which a debt collection agency reported debt on a consumer’s credit report to obtain leverage over the consumer. If Allied Collection Services of California is on your credit report, they may tell you that they’ll remove the debt from your credit report if you pay it; this is commonly known as “pay for delete.” If the original creditor is on your report rather than the debt collector, and you pay off the debt, both entities should accurately report this on your credit report.
Several states also have laws to provide its citizens an additional layer of protection. For example, if you live in California, Florida, Michigan, Montana, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Texas, or Wisconsin, you may be able to add a state-law claim to your federal law claim above. North Carolina, for example, has one of the most consumer-friendly statutes in the country: if you live in NC and are harassed over a debt, you may receive $500 – $4,000 in damages per violation. We work with a local counsel in NC and our NC clients have received some great results in debt collection harassment cases. If you live in North Carolina and are being harassed by a debt collector, you have leverage to obtain a great settlement.
How do we Use the Law to Help You?
We will use state and federal laws to immediately stop Allied Collection Services of California’s debt collection. We will send a cease-and-desist letter to stop the harassment today, and if Allied Collection Services of California violates the FDCPA, EFTA, FCRA, or any state law, you may be entitled to money damages. For example, under the FDCPA, you may receive up to $1,000 in damages plus actual damages. The FDCPA also has a fee-shift provision, which means the debt collector will pay your attorney’s fees and costs. If you have a TCPA case against the agency, we will handle it based on a contingency fee and you won’t pay us a dime unless you win.
THAT’S NOT ALL…
We have helped thousands of consumers stop phone calls. We know how to stop the harassment and get you money damages. Once again: you will not pay us a dime for our services. We will help you based on a fee-shift provision and/or contingency fee, and the debt collector will pay your attorney’s fees and costs.
What if Allied Collection Services of California is on my Credit Report?
Based on our experience, some debt collectors may credit-report, which means one may mark your credit report with the debt they are trying to collect. In addition to or instead of the debt collector, the original creditor may also be on your credit report in a separate entry, and it’s important to properly identify these entities because you will want both to update your credit report if or when you pay off the debt.
THE GOOD NEWS IS…
If Allied Collection Services of California is on your credit report, we can help you dispute it. Mistakes on your credit report can be very costly: along with causing you to pay higher interest rates, you may be denied credit, insurance, a rental home, a loan, or even a job because of these mistakes. Some mistakes may include someone else’s information on your credit report, inaccurate public records, stale collection accounts, or even being a victim of identity theft. If you have a mistake on your credit report, there is a process to dispute it, and my office will help you obtain your credit report and dispute any inaccurate information.
REMEMBER…
If a credit reporting agency violates its obligations under the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), you may be entitled to statutory damages up to $1,000, and the credit reporting agency will be required to fix the error. The FCRA also has a fee-shift provision, which means the credit reporting agency will pay your attorney’s fees and costs. You won’t owe us a dime for our services. We have helped hundreds of consumers fix inaccurate information on their credit reports, and we’re ready to help you, too.
Complaints against Allied Collection Services of California
Here are some of the Better Business Bureau (BBB) reviews and complaints against Allied Collection Services of California:
“Allied Collection Services continues to furnish false information regarding a debt that I never had with a sports club. This has been verified by the GM of the sports club, that I closed my account in late 2012 with no outstanding balance. Furnishing false and misleading information to the credit bureaus regarding a fabricated debt.”
“[Allied] is not an assignee for the purported agreement, and they have not offered any evidence to the contrary as Request of verification and validation sent to collection agency. I also requested that they send a copy of my letter to the original creditor notifying them that I dispute this debt so that they cannot report it as delinquent on my credit report. I also requested that they ask all credit bureaus to which they subscribe to insert a notation on my credit file that I dispute this debt.”
“They’ve ruined my credit over a debt that is not mine. I had some squatters move into my vacation house near Seattle in 2012 who used my mail to order all sorts of things. Credit cards, cell phones…you name it. Most of it has been relatively painless to take care of, but Allied Collection Services hasn’t budged. I don’t even know the company they’re collecting on…it’s clearly not mine. I’ve called several times over the past couple of months and explained the situation, have disputed the item on my credit, and have faxed a police report on the issue. The collection still sits there damaging my credit.”
Cases We’ve Handled Against Allied Collection Services of California
I think you’ll agree when we say that threats and harassment from collection agencies can be pretty intimidating. However, we can stop the harassment and get you money damages under the law, and the collection agency will pay your attorneys’ fees and costs. Here are two cases we’ve handled against Allied Collection Services of California:
Janann Q. v. Allied Collection Services of California – In December 2018, Janann of Tarrant County, Texas, filed a claim against Allied Collection Services of California for violations of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) and Texas Debt Collection Act (TDCA). Complaints consisted of harassing phone calls for a debt the plaintiff did not owe based on mistaken identity, and ongoing harassment after the plaintiff requested that the calls stop. 
Eugene D. v. Allied Collection Services of California – In October 2013, Eugene of Orange County, Florida, filed a claim against Allied Collection Services of California for violations of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA), Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), and Florida Consumer Collection Practices Act (FCCPA). Similar to case one, complaints consisted of harassing phone calls for a debt the plaintiff did not owe based on mistaken identity, as well as robocalls and ongoing harassment after the plaintiff requested that the calls stop.
What Our Clients Say about Us
Agruss Law Firm has over 825 outstanding client reviews through Yotpo, an A+ BBB rating, and over 110 five-star reviews on Google. Here’s what some of our clients have to say about us:
“Michael Agruss handled two settlements for me with great results and he handled them quickly. He also settled my sister’s case quickly and now her debt is clear. I highly recommend Michael.”
“Agruss Law Firm was very helpful, they helped me solve my case regarding the unwanted calls. I would highly recommend them. Thank you very much Mike Agruss!”
“Agruss Law Firm was very helpful to me and my veteran father! We were harassed daily and even called names for a loan that was worthless! Agruss stepped in and not only did they stop harassing, they stopped calling all together!! Even settled it so I was paid back for the problems they caused!”
Can Allied Collection Services of California Sue Me?
Although anyone can sue anyone for any reason, we have not seen Allied Collection Services of California sue consumers, and it’s likely that the agency does not sue because they don’t always own the debt they are attempting to collect, and would also need to hire a lawyer, or use in-house counsel, to file a lawsuit. It’s also likely that the agency collects debt throughout the country, and it would be quite difficult to have lawyers, or a law firm, licensed in every state. However, there are collection agencies that do sue consumers; for example, Midland Credit Management is one of the largest junk-debt buyers, and it also collects and sues on debt. Still, it is less likely for a debt collector to sue you than for an original creditor to hire a lawyer or collection firm to sue you. If Allied Collection Services of California has threatened to sue you, contact Agruss Law Firm, LLC as soon as possible.
Can Allied Collection Services of California Garnish my Wages?
No, unless they have a judgment. If Allied Collection Services of California has not sued you, then the agency cannot get a judgment. Barring limited situations (usually involving debts owed to the government for student loans, taxes, etc.), a company must have a judgment in order to garnish someone’s wages. In short, we have not seen this agency file a lawsuit against a consumer, so the agency cannot garnish your wages, minus the exceptions listed above. If Allied Collection Services of California has threatened to garnish your wages, contact our office right away.
Allied Collection Services of California Settlement
If you want to settle a debt with Allied Collection Services of California, ask yourself these questions first:
Do I really owe this debt?
Is this debt within the statute of limitations?
Is this debt on my credit report?
If I pay this debt, will Allied Collection Services of California remove it from my credit report?
If I pay this debt, will the original creditor remove it from my credit report?
If I pay this debt, will I receive confirmation in writing from Allied Collection Services of California for the payment and settlement terms?
These are not the only things to consider when dealing with debt collectors. We are here to help you answer the questions above, and much more. Whether it’s harassment, settlement, pay-for-delete, or any other legal issue with Allied Collection Services of California, we at Agruss Law Firm are here to help you.
Top Debt Collection Violations
Debt collection laws provide a laundry list of what collectors can and cannot do while collecting a debt. Based on our years of experience handling thousands of debt collection harassment cases, here’s what collection agencies most often do to violate the law:
Called you about a debt you do not owe.
Called you at work after you told them you cannot receive calls at work.
Left you a message without identifying the company’s name.
Left you a message without disclosing that the call is from a debt collector.
Called third-parties (family, friends, coworkers, or neighbors) even though the collection agency knows your contact information.
Disclosed to a third-party (family, friends, coworkers, or neighbors) that you owe a debt.
Contacted you after you said to stop calling.
Threatened you with legal action (such as a lawsuit or wage garnishment).
Called you before 8:00 AM or after 9:00 PM.
Continued to call you after you have told the collector you cannot pay the debt.
Communicated (phone or letter) with you after you filed for bankruptcy.
Failed to mark the debt on your credit report as disputed after you disputed the debt.
Frequently Asked Questions
Do I have to pay your fees and costs for helping me with my consumer rights case? No. We handle consumer rights cases based on a fee-shift provision and/or a contingency fee. That means either the other side pays your fees and costs, or we take a percentage of your recovery. Whether it’s a fee-shift case or a contingency-fee case, we don’t get paid unless you get paid, and you’ll never owe us a penny for our time.
What are the damages I can get under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act? If a collection agency violates any section of the FDCPA, you are entitled to damages up to $1,000.00. You may also be entitled to actual damages if the violation caused you out-of-pocket expenses. For example, if a collection agency threatens you with legal action to induce you to pay the debt, you may be able to get your payment back as actual damages.
What are the damages under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act? You can get $500 per robocall, or $1,500 per robocall if the robocalls were willful. In any type of settlement, Defendants often pay much less than $500 per call. However, if there are 50 calls at issue, even at $250 per call, your case could settle for $12,500.00.
What type of debt is covered under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act? Only consumer debt, such as personal, family, and household debts. For example, money you owe on a personal credit card, an auto loan, a medical bill, or a utility bill. The FDCPA does not cover debts you incurred to run a business, or debts regarding unpaid taxes, or traffic tickets.
Does the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act apply to banks or credit card companies? No.  Only third-party debt collectors are bound by the FDCPA. Original creditors, such as banks and credit card companies, are not bound by the FDCPA.
Are there state laws that protect me from original creditors? Yes! Several states also have laws that provide its citizens an additional layer of protection. If you live in California, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Nevada, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas, or Wisconsin, you have additional state-law rights.
Are mistakes on credit reports common? Yes! Are you one of the 40 million Americans who have a mistake on their credit report? Mistakes on your credit report can be very costly.  Along with causing you to pay higher interest rates, you may be denied credit, insurance, a rental home, a loan, or even a job because of these mistakes. Some mistakes may include someone else’s information on your credit report, inaccurate public records, stale collection accounts, or maybe you were a victim of identity theft.
What do I do if I have a mistake on my credit report? If you have a mistake on your credit report, there is a process to dispute them. My office will help you pull your credit report and dispute any inaccurate information. If a credit reporting agency violates its obligations under the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), you may be entitled to statutory damages up to $1,000.00, plus the credit reporting agency will be required to fix the error.  The FCRA also has a fee-shift provision, which means the credit reporting agency pays your attorney’s fees and costs. Therefore, you will not pay me a penny for my time. To speed up the process, please get a free copy of your credit report at www.annualcreditreport.com. You can also learn more about the FCRA and your rights at http://www.agrussconsumerlaw.com/practices/common-credit-report-errors/.
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HERE’S THE DEAL!
If you are being harassed by Allied Collection Services of California over a debt, you may be entitled to money damages – up to $1,000 for harassment, and $500 – $1,500 for illegal robocalls. Under state and federal laws, we will help you based on a fee-shift provision and/or contingency fee, which means the debt-collector pays your attorney’s fees and costs. You won’t owe us a dime for our services. We have settled thousands of debt collection harassment cases, and we’re prepared to help you, too. Contact Agruss Law Firm at 888-572-0176 to stop the harassment once and for all.
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