#< thats why billford has exploded right
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the amount of "actually Billford isn't canon because Bill was using him for his own gain" i've seen on Twitter is fucking insane. I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN GRAVITY FALLS. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT. but "it isn't canon because character A is using character B as a tool" is NOT how you determine whether something's canon or not lol.
list of ships that fall under "one of them is just using the other"/"this is so obviously one-sided in some way for the sake of proving a point:
Lloyd and Harumi from Ninjago (arguably)
Kai and Skylor, also from Ninjago, started out as "Skylor's using Kai's attraction to her against him to manipulate him" then turned into a genuine relationship because Skylor was also being manipulated and used
I THINK this was the case with Tigerstar and Leopardstar in the first Warriors arc but I might be misremembering
The Erazor Djinn and Shahra from Sonic and the Secret Rings
Angel and Val from Hazbin Hotel
This kind of dynamic is implied on some level in Helluva Boss with Chaz's relationships with Moxxie and Millie
a relationship being one-sided or manipulative doesn't suddenly make it not canon. hell, someone can be manipulative towards someone they genuinely love. manipulation in fictional relationships doesn't indicate their level of canonicity, it just means the relationship isn't healthy
#jinxed chatter#gravity falls#the book of bill#< thats why billford has exploded right#anyway in addition to “a ship having a manipulative party means its not canon” being bullshit#i'd also like to add that theres a plethora of ships where the creators intend to make it canon but cant because of what theyre creating#whisper and tangle from sonic are like this. theyre intended to be in a relationship but sega wont let idw's writers make that clear#if somethings implied (especially if its a queer ship in kids media) that likely means its intended to be canon#but the fact that the intention is for it to be canon cant be made clear due to restrictions from higher-ups#(and this is even more the case with kids media like sonic and gravity falls)#hasn't alex hirsch talked about the lack of queer ships in gravity falls amounting to “disney won't let me”#anyway. sorry for talking about a media franchise i know nothing about. it will happen again
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