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balloonboyismyson Ā· 9 months ago
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As much as I love Monty as a character, bro would definitely give me the finger and tell me to "fuq off" if I tried fraternizing with him.
Big gator man needs TRUST and RESPECT and someone to worship his massive ego. He'd love someone who would never back down and not be a big ol' sissy 100% of the time.
He really means it when he says "Let's Rock." šŸ˜ŽšŸŠ
BROOOO MONTY WOULD HATE ME SO HARD
I daydream about him a lot and most of them end in him hating me bc there are almost no reasons why he would like me OTL
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stardewvalleybut-i-draw Ā· 15 days ago
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Hi! New to your blog, I was curious about your thoughts on Shane? :ā€™) I was gonna marry Eliot but was too lazy to find all his loved items, so I just went with Shane instead. I have definitely grown to love him (Iā€™m his number one apologist and defender)
Welcome! Welcome!
Honesty, Shane's story was kinda spoiled for me cuz of Youtube so when he was being kinda mean I brushed it off knowing it was a character flaw in the beginning that changed later.
so IMMEDIATELY, I'm biased.
I only saw snip bits here and there out of context and I was more confused by why a bright colorful farming game was talking about depression, addiction, and sui**dal ideation.
Shane's also one of the easiest villagers to befriend so when I first played, I accidentally befriended him, and OH BOY! Were his scenes a whiplash šŸ˜… I kept forgetting how dark they were LMAOOO
(I was just trying to get chickensšŸ’€)
I can kinda understand some of the critiques on the character but it's really dependent on how you interpret Shane. He's no saint, he has behaviors that can be explained but not necessarily justified.
But to comment on two of the criticisms:
Some people dislike how Shane drinks even after the event.
It's more of a gameplay mechanic flaw but also I think it unintentionally matches with real alcoholism recovery. Depending on how much alcohol you have drank and how bad your liver is...you can't just stop drinking.
If your body is used to a certain level of alcohol in its systems and then one day you just stop, you go into shock AND YOU DIE :D
Fun Fact!
There's also the comment on how the Player "fixes" Shane and criticisms on the players who choose to like Shane but that's a critique on the player. Not the character. So I can't really comment much on that one. And my personal interpretation of the fixing thing: nah.
I'll use the metaphor Shane used.
When you're stuck at the bottom of the abyss and you can't see the light anymore... if someone throws down a rope from the top...it does not mean they saved you. You have the choice of using the rope to climb out or staying at the bottom.
ANYWAY
Personally, I like flawed characters! They usually give you a lot to dissect and reflect on so I think he's chillšŸ˜ŽšŸ‘
Probably gonna be a while until you see a fully drawn piece of Shane that isn't doodle. Sorry Shane enjoyers, this is all I got šŸ˜…
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milevenstancyendgame Ā· 5 hours ago
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In Defense Of Mike
Sometimes antis inspire you to write meta - I don't know why, but today I feel like going through these Mike accusations that someone left on my Eleven post, lol:
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No one talks shit about my boy Mike on my post.šŸ˜Ž
-"And not to make this about shipping because El is her own person and should be discussed outside of ships, BUT" - goes on long ass shipping discourse.
You nailed it right there, buddy.šŸ˜‚
-"Mike babies her throughout their relationship":
I think it's so funny that those who are on the fence shouting about El needing to break up with Mike, to be independent, are doing exactly what they accuse Mike of doing (gaslight much?). You're willfully ignoring her love for Mike, which is canonical, projecting your own dislike of him onto her, like you know what's best for her. You're babying her.
So when does he baby her? I can't think of any time, but since you also said that he's protective and "El wants to be trusted and supported", I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you're talking about SOME scenes between El and Mike in s3.
I think it's funny that antis wave Mike's protectiveness over El in s3 as though it was some big red flag.
Like, ya'll act as though he wanted to lock her up in the cabin. Oh wait, that was Hopper in s2, actually. I don't see you hating on Hopper though, even though he's an adult.
Mike is worried and traumatised from losing El several times before. Yes, he doesn't know how to deal with this, but like you keep saying, El is her own person and should be respected as such.
So what does El do? She shows that she doesn't like it, and in an intimate moment away from the over-the-top comedy of s3, she tells him "I need you to trust me".
And how does Mike react? Did you actually watch that? Because it doesn't sound like it. He ACCEPTS what she says IMMEDIATELY, even gives Max an acknowledging glance, and backs off, letting her do her thing.
Like this right there. That's growth.
And that's him doing exactly what you say El needs - that's trusting, supportive, and letting her decide for herself. Which, by the way, he has been doing the whole time and continues to do.
He apologies to her and shows that he has been self-reflecting, and is overly hard on himself. He's aware that he was jealous and that he doesn't know how to deal with his strong love for El.
That's healthy and wholesome, and also huge for a 14-year old emotionally neglected boy, who has no blueprint for a healthy romantic relationship.
But no, you don't want to see this. Nor anything else, apparently. Just literally this ONE DAY on which he was overwhelmed and worrying about El. And you interpret that as "babies her throughout their relationship". That isā€¦wild.
-"Mike puts El on a pedestal" & "Mike never compliments El's personality" :
Wow, this feels like the most unjust accusation of all. You interpret him thinking and telling her she's a superhero as putting her on a pedestal?
First of all, how can you do that, when you just said that he babies her throughout.šŸ˜† It almost seems like your various views about him are incompatible...maybe because they're not founded on reality...šŸ‘€
He's the one who constantly reminds everyone else that El is not a machine, that she has limits, that she has human needs...seriously, have you watched the show? S1? When everyone saw her as a problem or a weirdo or a traitor or a monster or a criminal or a science experiment....and he was the one who treated her for what she was - a scared, friendless child in danger. An equal. A friend.
How come you're not hating on Dustin and Lucas? Maybe you're able to see how they changed? Or Max, because she's in awe of El in s2 and in s3 is 100%ly confident that she will be able to defeat the monster on her own? Maybe you're able to see that she had a normal reaction to finding out about someone's super powers and that she simply was mistaken? Or Steve, because he refers to her as "this girl with superpowers that we usually rely on"? Maybe you're able to see that this didn't reflect any dehumanising on his part?
Oh, but Mike is different of course.šŸ™„
Mike never treats El as anything else but his equal. If he actually put her on a pedestal, he'd constantly be like: "Oh, but I'm sure El can fix it!" for every problem they have, and he'd be disappointed and shocked to witness her humanity - her flaws, her needs, her imperfections.
Well, he doesn't. On the contrary, he tries to provide for her every need, reminding others of them, is worried about her overexerting herself (which you hated on a moment ago, but now strangely seem to have forgotten), and never pushes her to fight for them. He's also always the one who wants to provide a back-up for her, to not let her fight alone or do everything for them (like in the caves in s2, or in s3 when they try to overturn the car in the mall).
Okay, and my personal favourite: "He also does this with Dustin and Will" So I'm guessing you're referring to Mike telling Dustin in s1 that his cleidocranial dysplasia is like a superpower, after being bullied; and in s2, when he tells Will he's like a super-spy now. And of course telling El that she's a superhero.
And you think this is bad????????
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Sorry, I just....HOW? He's literally reassuring Dustin that he not only accepts him as he is, but that his difference is cool, he compares him to the coolest people they know and admire, the super heroes from comics. He's trying to cheer him up after he got humiliated for being different. I mean...I guess if he had given him a hug, you would have found a way to interpret that as bad.šŸ˜¬
And the same with Will - he sees that his friend is barely keeping it together, he's rightly panicking, because he's possessed by an interdimensional monster, but Mike finds a way to distract him, invite his mind to see things in a different way that actually EMPOWERS him, reassuring him that they won't let the monster spy back, and again, this is bad, because?
Or do you mean it's only bad when he does it with El?šŸ˜‚ Because it's the same thing. He's trying to reassure her that she's not a monster, that he loves her.
And once again - when she shows in s4 that she doesn't like something he's doing (not saying "I love you"), he accepts that, he feels bad, and tries to give her exactly what she asked for at the next opportunity!
Apparently you didn't see that either.
And "he never compliments her personality". How many hoops do you want him to jump through?šŸ¤£
Mike shows that he loves and respects El all the time, he doesn't need to say "You have an awesome personality." for El to feel that. And she never expressed any need for that. Does Hopper compliment Joyce's personality to her face? Did Joyce do that for Hopper? Did Nancy do that for Steve or Jonathan or vice versa? Did Max say that to Lucas? I guess Lucas is the only one who really loves his partner, because he did that once.šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£
Oh, and of course, the whole monologue at the end of s4 doesn't count, because. "I love you on your good days, I love you on your bad days, I love you without your powers, I love you with your powers...I love you exactly for who you are."
That's somehow not valid, hm?
Mike can't win in your eyes, because you don't want him to. This is called scapegoating, btw.
Lastly, it's strange that you have a reference to him in your username, when you clearly think he's so horrible and accuse him of all this...together with a reference to Will...hmm...how mysterious....šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„ Almost like you had double standards for a certain agenda.šŸ¤”
*Drops mic*
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bokutosbiceps Ā· 1 year ago
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HIII!! I hope your having a great dayā€¦! I saw you take matchups but Iā€™m not sure if your requests ar woken or not but I think they areā€”? Forgive me if Iā€™m wrong anyways but Iā€™ll take a romantic matchup for Soul Eater, Bungo Stray Dogs and Fairy Tail please ^^
So small introduction..! My name is Joey, I use he/him pronouns, im transgender aromatic unlabeled and bisexual, i have autism and adhd(diagnosed), and im a cool person šŸ˜Ž/hj My personality: I am a ENTP and Iā€™m extroverted but I am awkward at first when I meet someone new so it may take me some time to adjust to the new person before I emote freely, my enneagram is a 6(not sure if thatā€™s important BUT ANYWAYSā€”!), i usually love to ramble about my Interests a lot or just how my day went, I also like texting a lot usually as well so I make jokes like ā€œUwUā€, ā€œhaiā€, or ā€œIā€™m homophobicā€ (Bro donā€™t take the homophobic part seriously šŸ˜­), and lastly I also like to make sexual jokes a lot lololol only if Iā€™m REALLY close with someone
Appearance: Iā€™m 5ā€™6, Iā€™m white skinned, I have brown (now more boyish) hair, brownish/hazel eyes, and I shave a rectangular body shape (I also gained some muscles so nkw I can squeeze ppl plus Iā€™m more stronger xD), i also wear a shit load of stylesā€”! Like goth (trad goth, romantic goth, mall goth, and nu goth), gyaru (hime gal, himekaji, agejo, rokku, manba, kogal and tsuyome), scenemo/emo and vkei ouji and lolita but!! i wear that stuff when Iā€™m doing social media stuff, at home, school, malls, etc, but usually I also wear streetwear stuff like baggy pants and usually anime shirts or a regular shirt
Interests/hobbies: anime/manga, gaming, cosplaying, art(drawing, painting, pottery, digital art and more), cooking, fashion, making clothes of my own, making/listening to music(Iā€™m a vocaloid producer hahahahā€”), science/history, shopping, writing, learning new languages likes Japanese and Spanish and more so on
Likes: cats, hajime hinata (danganronpa), a silent voice, albedo (genshin impact), lemon demon, felix kranken (twf), bread, musicals, sharks, christmas music/christmas in general, scp 3008 (roblox game), get a snack at 4am (roblox game), hotels, and my friends!
Dislikes: negative mentions of my voice, comparing me to people like ā€œyou remind me of ___ā€,hate talk about my interests or myself, drama between friends/family, loud noises(yelling, vacuuming, etc), and spiders
Thanks!
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a/n: i'm so sorry if these suck. this is the first time i've written anything in like almost a year so i hope you enjoy them LOL
bungou stray dogs
I match you up with Edogawa Ranpo! You guys are two sides of the same coin which makes your relationship all the more fun and interesting! You guys would have tons of fun together either learning about new things and Ranpo loves to listen to whatever new music you make or inspect any new art you may create! Ranpo especially loves your fashion sense and is often envious of how you can figure out how to put a whole costume together. He would especially love your sexual jokes because he also loves to make lewd remarks with a smirk just to see someone flush in embarrassment. Honestly, chaotic power couple right here, the vibes are immaculate.
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fairy tail
I match you up with Mirajane Strauss! Mirajane is super nurturing and extremely supportive of whatever you want to do, sheā€™s your biggest fan! She also knows a thing or two about putting together different outfits (sheā€™s got all these demon equip outfits that are awesome and I just love them so much) so you guys bond over your fashion sense and your interest in cosplaying. Lewd comments/jokes will make her blush ear to ear at first but after you guys get more comfortable with each other, sheā€™ll be quick to fire some back and start a battle of who can make the dirtiest joke around ;) She also hates drama between her friends and family so that will never be an issue in your relationship, since sheā€™ll do everything in her power to avoid any sort of drama between the two of you.
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soul eater
I match you up with Crona Gorgon! You both are just the most precious little beans and need to be protected at all costs. Crona is interested in everything you do and admires your many talents; they think you are the coolest person ever. They look up to you in every way and often ask you to teach them how to do things. Right now, Crona is the most interested in the music that you make. Music makes them feel happy and warm, no matter what kind of music it is, and they think that itā€™s just the coolest that you can actually create a whole voice! Please be patient with Crona though, they will most likely take quite a while to warm up to you, but once theyā€™re comfortable with you, theyā€™re never leaving your side!
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marvus-xoloto Ā· 3 years ago
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Marvus Pale Headcanons
I'm going to do my best to keep these organized, but ngl I have so many thots abt marv. Head empty, heart..... full :) So... Let's start broad and narrow it down?
Marvus to me reads as somebody who has a hard time differentiating his feelings between concupiscent and conciliatory. He's got enough of an emotional IQ to understand when a relationship isn't working for him or is entering unhealthy territory, so black romance tends to be a little easier for him to navigate than red romance.
Within red romance, Marvus's experience with intimacy is sexual. I mean, the man exudes sexuality and he's kind of the face of sexual desire on alternia just in general. When people get to know him, it's usually flirtatious, implicitly sexy, and invasive.
So with all of that in mind, when I think of Marvus and red romance, I do think he struggles with: a. differentiating sexual intimacy vs non sexual intimacy b. opening up and letting go of his persona completely and c. commitment in general.
For these reasons, I do think he's prone towards gravitating towards an all in one red quadrant; I would say rails with pails, but I really think he'd struggle to keep his feelings all sorted. Marvus is not exactly the kind of person who likes to keep things in boxes, anyway. Not only is it easier for him to navigate intimacy- sexual or not- when there is no boundary, I think Marvus dislikes the idea of romantic boundaries at all with people he has feelings for in general. Quadrant vacillation isn't his thing for these same reasons.
Okay, so with all of that out of the way, let's get onto the specifically pale romantic fluff šŸ˜ŽšŸ’•
Marvus's favorite way to be touched is firmly; some people like to escape reality a lil bit when they're getting pale and jiggy with it- and sometimes Marvus does, too- but he generally prefers to be grounded. He's a very intelligent person and he likes to think and strategize his way through problems rather than let them sit and stew.
So with paps, he likes the standard shoosh-pap, but he also likes (and I wrote this in my fic, read it love it reblog it praise me for it etc) when his moirail goes thumb to cheekbone, fingertips to spine. He has sharp angles to his face and he enjoys when his moirail traces them. He also understands intimacy very well this way: he loves feeling your hands around his throat, and the trust between you two in that moment.
He's a very thoughtful person, and his love languages are both quality time and gift giving. He learns all sorts of minutiae about your hobbies, and always picks up small little things that make him think of you. He's also really good at reading people; I've spoken about this before so I won't go in depth here, but he's very good at talking you out of your bad mood.
I argue that Marvus, while he doesn't like feeling idolized in his quadrants, does like to feel special and praised in redrom specifically. Celebrating his albums, or working on songs together, or even just showing up at his studio make him feel like you care, and let's him feel connected to you.
Marvus does like his secrets, and there are times where you dig and you dig and you dig and you still can't unearth them. It takes a while for him to trust that you won't run to the press with it.
He can be a little hot and cold at the beginning. Because Marvus is out on tour a lot, or on interviews, or just generally got damn busy, he sort of like. Lives out of his limo and party bus a lot. In his mind, this isn't exactly the environment for a deep romantic bond and it's a very difficult environment for trust to grow. But he does crave that closeness and unconditional love from another! And honestly, his space is his biggest blessing: he needs a lot of distance in all of his relationships in order to not feel smothered. He likes to feel as if he desperately misses someone and he plays up the pining soo much lol. He wants your attention.
Yeah that's all I got right now! I feel a little unfocused, but if y'all want me to go deeper or clarify on anything specific, just ask! (Please ask me abt marvus my blorbo love of my fucked up mind. I'm begging.. Asks are also open for other characters <3).
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coldflasher Ā· 3 years ago
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Legends of Tomorrow Panels - The Ultimates: Crisis
Okay, so as we know because Iā€™m never ever gonna shut up about it, I just got back from the Ultimates: Crisis convention in Birmingham. It was my first Starfury con and it was SO good. It was an Arrowverse con with a bunch of DCTV guests, and they had multiple daily Q&As with the cast members. As far as Legends goes, I attended all of the panels šŸ˜Ž which you are NOT supposed to do lmao, they deliberately run the Q&As on both days so people can make it to one or the other and the panels clash with autographs, but I managed somehow.Ā 
We werenā€™t allowed to film at the event (some people definitely did, but the stewards were pretty good at cracking down on it) which means that obviously a lot of people wonā€™t know what went down, but the panels were so interesting so I have written a huge post of everything I can remember them talking about! (Because it wasnā€™t filmed, they also got to dish a bit of dirt on the CW which I feel like they wouldnā€™t have normally lmao.)Ā 
Iā€™ve tried to split these up into categories based on who said it, but there is some crossover because there were multiple people at the panels. Originally I tried to keep things chronological and remember what happened at which panel (there were four) but honestly it was hard to keep track and I just wanted to get down as much as I could possibly remember.Ā 
The guests in attendance from Legends were Nick Zano (Nate), Olivia Swann (Astra), Matt Ryan (Gwyn Davies/John Constantine), Jes Macallan (Ava Sharpe) and Caity Lotz (Sara Lance.) I will say now that I have fewer anecdotes from Caity - long story short, someone showed up in a full Beebo cosplay and Caity got a bit too excited cheering for them and lost her voice, so she wasnā€™t able to say as much on the second day of panels. (I suspect that the fact she met, talked to and had photos with probably over a thousand people also did not help lmao.) But her personality MORE than made up for it.Ā 
Anyway, hereā€™s a huge list of all the things I remember from the Q&As, which i may add to if I remember more. Iā€™ve legit spent like four or five hours writing all this šŸ˜‚ so I hope itā€™s of interest to some people!
Nick
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  There was a question about adlibs and improv, and they all said that Phil Klemmer was totally open to suggestions and encouraged them to try things and let them have a lot of input, which is nice because on other shows you would get in trouble for that. They would always just throw random things in and if something happened to be genuinely funny, they usually got to keep it in. Nick said that the joke about Nate disliking crossovers started from an adlib of his about hating crossovers and they liked it so much that they kind of made it a running joke. Matt also said that there were a couple of adlibs in the truth bug episode (The Getaway) that made it in. One was the part where John is shoving Nixon into the closet/whatever it was and he goes ā€œletā€™s put dick in a boxā€, and he was amazed that made it in because he thought there was no way theyā€™d be allowed to keep that. He also said that Dom fluffed his line about Les Miserables and that ā€œI want to grow my hair and look like Fabioā€ was improv and Matt absolutely lost it when he did it.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  They made a LOT of jokes about Dom being grumpy on set. Nick said the first time he met Dom to film the first ep of season 2, Dom had already managed to be in a bad mood on the very first day of filming. Anyway, Nick said his line (something where he called Mick a silverback, I think? Not sure if it was in the ep) and Dom did a double-take and was like ā€œwas that in the script?!?ā€ And at that point Nick said he thought ā€œOh man, Iā€™m gonna have some real fun with this guy.ā€ šŸ˜‚ he fully admitted to deliberately pushing Domā€™s buttons which I think is hilarious
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  There was a question about who they would like to be in a body swap episode. Nick said heā€™d swap with Dom because all he did was come onto set, grunt, and leave again šŸ˜‚ (he acted out the grunts).
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Nick said sometimes he used to laugh so much during filming that he couldnā€™t keep it together, and they would kick him off set and just stick a big green X onto the stage where he was meant to be.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  They talked a lot about Robo Nate and how everyone found him so funny that the entire cast and crew were crying with laughter for days straight. Nick says he tends to take things too far, and he kept taking it further and apparently Matt couldnā€™t even look at him whenever he was Robo Nate because he couldnā€™t keep it together. Nick also said he warned his stunt double (who is really nice and professional) that Robo Nate was a lot and he was gonna be going a bit over the top, and the stunt double was trying so hard not to laugh but he couldnā€™t keep this one tear from rolling down his face. (At the closing ceremony, Matt specifically did a shoutout to Robo Nate for how much joy heā€™d brought him. Witnessing Nick and Mattā€™s friendship was actually one of my fave parts, theyā€™re genuinely super close and I didnā€™t even realise how much. More on that later.)
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Nick said he pitched a couple of things to the writers regarding Robo Nate, one being the arms, which he didnā€™t expect to get, but obviously did, and then the voice. He told them he wanted to do an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice. They told him he couldnā€™t do the voice, and he did it anyway until it was too late to stop him and they just had to let it happen. Olivia also said the arms were disgusting and they felt all spongy.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked about Nateā€™s Steel costume and why they didnā€™t really use it, especially the helmet, and Nick said that the problem was that they fitted him for the costume and made it all, and then realised too late that you couldnā€™t actually tell he was Steel when he was wearing it because it covered his whole body and all you really could see was his chin and part of his arms. So they didnā€™t use the helmet. He also said that he wasnā€™t allowed to change his hair for six seasons because theyā€™d already done all the photography and 3D modelling for the CGI for Steel and if he got a different haircut it would have cost the CW $120K šŸ˜¬
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  He talked a bit about Shotgun Nate and how the girls couldnā€™t even look at him while he was doing those scenes (not sure if he meant because they hated Shotgun Nate or because it was too funny). Ā 
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked Nick about an incident where he hurt his eye on set. At first he had no idea what they were talking about and he was really confused, but then he remembered, and he told the story. If I remember correctly, it happened during the s6 finale, during the scene when the aliens were trying to break in. There was prop glass blowing everywhere, and Nick said because heā€™s a dad, he went over to Shayan to warn him to watch out for all the glass. Shayan was like ā€˜oh, thanks,ā€™ and moved. Anyway, Nick must have gotten too close to the glass himself, because later that night, his eye started swelling up, so they sent him to a doctor (who was NOT an eye doctor, they specified, so I assume that was relevant lmao). He was the ā€˜showbiz doctorā€™. Anyway, this doctor swabbed his eye and got a bunch of residue from the glass out, but then the eye swelled up even more because it was healing. He had to wear an eyepatch, and when he arrived on set the next day and took it off, everyone was like šŸ˜¬ because it had swollen so much and they couldnā€™t hide it. For the rest of the day he had to film all of his scenes side-on, even the really serious ones. That should be a fun thing to watch out for on a rewatch.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  They were asked if they had taken anything from the set and they were all mad that they didnā€™t get the chance. However, Nick said that when they were dismantling Constantineā€™s mansion, ā€˜Mattyā€™ (he kept calling him Matty, it was so cute) was already done filming his scenes for the season, and Nick wanted him to have something from the set, so he decided to steal one of the huge stone gargoyles from the stairwell in Constantineā€™s mansion. So he snuck over there and tried to shove this thirty-pound gargoyle into his backpack, and it made a really loud thunk. Then he carried it all the way to Mattā€™s trailer and was like ā€˜look, I got this for youā€™. Matt was like ā€˜I live in the UK, how am I supposed to get that home???ā€™ šŸ˜‚ but he said he did manage to get it home somehow and itā€™s now in his house, though he said it would have been cheaper if heā€™d just commissioned someone to make a replica of it.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Nick told this super cute story about how one time, Matt had shown Nickā€™s then three-year-old son how to rub his fingers together on a rosemary plant and crush it so you can smell the rosemary, and apparently his son (who is now five) still shows all of his friends what Matt taught him whenever someone new comes over, which is FUCKING adorable.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Speaking of kids, there was a little boy named Olly at the con, and he was the star of the show, honestly, they all loved him. He asked Matt and Nick what their favourite colours were šŸ„ŗ Nick said it was boring but his favourite colour was black, but his sonā€™s was red. Matt said the same, but he also liked yellow, and they also chatted about that a bit and how yellow is the colour of the sun. They were both SO good with the kids (though there werenā€™t many there, thank god) and they tried so hard to keep everything PG. Nick kept saying ā€˜shizzā€™ instead of shit and stuff like that. Not that the other con-goers made it easy for them (someone started yelling stuff about tentacle kink at one point; more on that later) but they tried. Nick also apologized because he swore when he was meeting one of the other guests who they thought was in his twenties and he was actually like 13. He felt so bad about it, bless him.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Nick said there was a scene with Zari and Nate in the totem in the finale, and they built the set and filmed it, but it was cut for time, which he was disappointed by because he said it looked like ā€˜the city from Thorā€™ and it was a really cool set.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked about what it was like when Behrad showed up and they had to act like theyā€™d known him for years, and Nick said it was hard because a lot of the friendships on the show are kind of influenced by their real-life connections. He said it was hard for him because they wanted him to kind of replicate the relationship he had with Brandon, but with Shayan. He said that was something you couldnā€™t force, and that he and Shayan needed to build their own relationship and make it different and then that relationship would grow organically.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  He talked about the Thong Song and apparently they were all a bit nervous when Sisqo was there cos they were very aware that they were parodying him a bit and didnā€™t want to offend him, so they toned it down a but until they were done filming with him. Apparently he was also gunning for a role on the show and kept pitching himself as different characters and they were like uhhhh maybe šŸ˜‚
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  There were a bunch of people wearing shirts that said ā€˜I ā™„Gary Greenā€™ and Nick said that heā€™d texted Adam about how crazy popular Gary is in the UK, and heā€™d tricked him into believing there was a whole merch table of people selling these Gary Green shirts šŸ˜‚ so someone at the panel gave him one of the shirts so he could pretend heā€™d bought him one. Nick and Matt also joked that they should both carry on the bit by each taking a photo of themselves in the shirt and pretending they both bought one from the stall šŸ˜‚
Ā Matt
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  I think Matt was my fave guest after Meagan Tandy. Iā€™ve met him before so I was a little less intimidated, and he had some really interesting and insightful answers to the questions. Also shoutout to him for being a good sport about everyone demanding he do Al Pacino impressions for the whole weekend šŸ˜‚
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  So I actually went up and asked a couple of questions in the panels, which was THE scariest thing I have ever done. Iā€™ve always said that I would never be that person and I donā€™t know how people have the guts to go up there. If you had asked me literally a day or two before if I would have done it, Iā€™d have laughed in your face. Asking them a question is scary enough, but there were several hundred people in the audience as well and I have a terrible fear of microphones. But I did it, and Iā€™m legit so proud of myself. Who is she??? Anyway, I went up and said (and I remember this because I rehearsed it 938282 times), ā€œGwynā€™s feelings for Alun were a hugely fundamental part of the season, but we didnā€™t really get to see much of their relationship on screen. How do you think that relationship would have developed going forward, and would you have been interested in exploring that?ā€ (If you are very invested in Gwyn and Alun, skip this next part haha.) Matt said that he was less interested in Gwyn and Alunā€™s relationship and more who Gwyn was outside of it, before he met Alun. Gwyn the warrior. He was interested in Gwynā€™s identity as a gay man in 1925, when it was illegal, and him reconciling his sexuality with his religion, and that heā€™d been so hugely fixated on Alun that it would be nice to see him move forward now that heā€™d saved him, and for Gwyn to explore himself outside of that. And then he said that he thought that maybe Gwyn and Alun wouldnā€™t even have stayed together, and that would be okay, and it didnā€™t have to have been a happily ever after for it to have been meaningful. It was a really insightful and interesting answer and definitely not what I was expecting, but he genuinely went quite into depth with it and I was really interested in everything he said, which was all put far more eloquently than I can sum up here haha. Bear in mind that while he was saying all this, I was stood there clutching this microphone, nodding frantically while he made direct eye contact with me šŸ˜‚ phew. Anyway, then Nick was like ā€œI canā€™t believe youļæ½ļæ½re gonna break up with Alun. Does the actor know?ā€ and Matt was like šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø. And they joked a bit about how heā€™d wait right until being gay was decriminalised and then immediately dump him haha. It was SUCH an interesting answer and I was so glad I was brave enough to go up and ask because I love Gwyn SO MUCH.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Matt talked quite a bit about Gwyn, and how he thought that would be it for him after they wrote John out, but he got to do Gwyn instead. He said there was a lot of pressure because everyone was kind of waiting to see what heā€™d do, and how he was going to play it. He also said he did a lot with the physicality especially. Not method acting, but that even when the cameras werenā€™t rolling he kept up Gwynā€™s mannerisms in terms of how he stood and moved. He also said that it took him a while to stop slipping into Johnā€™s mannerisms out of habit and that Nick would take him on one side and tell him if a little bit of John had slipped into his performance so he could take it down a notch. There was a bunch of interesting stuff about Gwyn this panel, actually, which was lovely. They said at one point he was going to be Australian, or maybe American, before they settled on Welsh, because itā€™s a very soft accent (and of course Matt is Welsh himself). He also talked about how Gwyn would be so amazed by everything they saw which made me so emo omggg.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  At Nick, Matt, and Oliviaā€™s panel, someone asked if they had a Waverider, who would they choose to voice the AI? They all REALLY liked this question. Matt said Al Pacino and Nick begged him to act it out so he kept doing Al Pacino impressions. I cannot personally vouch for whether they were any good or not but I CAN confirm that even as someone who didnā€™t get the reference (I know the name but I do not actually know who Al Pacino is, donā€™t hate me) it was very funny.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  He said his favourite John Constantine plotline was John having lung cancer
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked if John would have been disappointed about having sex with Gary and not knowing he was an alien, and he said maybe John already knew šŸ˜ Then someone asked about tentacle sex and if thatā€™s what John meant when he said what he and Gary did didnā€™t count as Gary losing his virginity, and he said yes šŸ˜‚ but he was very red at this point, bless him.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked what they all learned from their characters. When it got to Mattā€™s turn, someone yelled ā€œtentacle kinkā€, which honestly was a bit yikes, especially cos there was a young child at the panel and I thought it had already been made kind of clear from Mattā€™s reactions that he wasnā€™t too comfortable with the nsfw tentacle-related questions, but he said ā€˜no, definitely not thatā€™ and he said something about how John just walks into things no matter how theyā€™re gonna go and even if theyā€™ll end badly and that he admires that.
Ā Olivia
Ā -Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Olivia talked about the cartoon episode and how becoming immortalized as a Disney princess was a literal dream for her, but she was nervous about the singing parts because she doesnā€™t consider herself a singer. She also said that they recorded the voiceover for that episode months before the animation was done, and that afterwards when she was watching it she felt kind of frustrated by missed opportunities and how she wished sheā€™d done more with certain lines or changed her delivery.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  They talked about the scene where Astra is trying to fix the Waverider and how the field they filmed in was FULL of spiders. Poor Olivia had to lie on the ground and had them all over her šŸ˜­ she told them sheā€™d do it, but if anyone screamed, it was game over.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Olivia said one time she accidentally knocked over a candlestick in Constantineā€™s mansion and it made a really loud noise and she was really embarrassed, so rather than admit she knocked it over, she quickly lay down on the floor and pretended sheā€™d tripped, and everyone came in and was really worried about her šŸ˜‚ I donā€™t know why she thought pretending to fall down was less embarrassing than knocking over a candlestick, but hey šŸ˜‚ they were all shook by this, she had never told them this before and Jes was like ā€œWHAT??ā€ Apparently sheā€™d wanted to call a medic to check Olivia over because she was worried it had been a really bad fall. Olivia was like yeah I lied, sorry šŸ˜‚
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked Olivia how Astra would torture the Legends. I was expecting her to talk about mental torture, like Avaā€™s purgatory in the ikea episode, but instead she talked about how in hell, Astra had earned some kind of qualification in flaying (there was a deleted scene where she talked about it). So she launched into this EXTREMELY in-depth description of how Astra would flay the Legendsā€™ skin off and roll them around in lemon juice and acid. She would put thumbscrews on Sara and Ava. She said sheā€™d have a LOT of fun with Gary, and when asked if sheā€™d torture Behrad, she said yeah but she thought heā€™d enjoy it šŸ˜‚ After Olivia was done with this extremely in-depth description of graphic torture, Caity holds up the mic and whispers ā€œyou guys are sickā€. šŸ˜‚ They were all very impressed with how much thought Olivia had put into the torture methods at such short notice but Olivia just shrugged like ā€˜Iā€™ve done a lot of work with Astra, I know my characterā€™.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Apparently Meagan Tandy auditioned for Astra, and Olivia auditioned for Sophie on Batwoman. CAN YOU IMAGINE. They both told this same anecdote in separate panels.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  I asked what their favourite memories were of filming the 100th episode. I canā€™t lie, on my part this was purely an attempt to elicit an anecdote about working with Wentworth lmaooo, you all know it wouldnā€™t be me if I didnā€™t bring Len up somehow. I feel like Caity would have been the best person to ask this question, since she directed this ep, but unfortunately sheā€™d lost her voice at this point, and Jes didnā€™t understand a word I was saying; she said she was glad Olivia was there to translate. I didnā€™t think my accent was that bad but I think I spoke too quickly because I was so nervous. Idk how I got out that massively wordy Gwyn/Alun question and fumbled a short sentence an hour later, but hey. Anyway, Olivia said that it was nice getting to meet up with everyone from the old cast and also that Caity did a really good job of directing and wrangling them all when there were so many people to work with. At another point they also mentioned how in the OG script, in the scene where all the old Legends are in the corridor, the script didnā€™t mention how that shot was set up, it was just kind of people popping up to say their lines, so Caity had to work really hard to figure out the staging when she was directing it, and that was how the corridor thing happened. So I didnā€™t get any Wentworth stories like I was hoping, boooo šŸ˜‚ but my friend asked if there were any former Legends they would have liked their character to work with and Caity said she really enjoyed working with Wentworth and would have liked to do more with him, so thereā€™s that. (As a side-note, Caity was the only person all weekend who picked up on my Captain Cold cosplay and she was really excited about it. I was like YES, SOMEONE GETS IT. Apparently me and Caity are the only person at that con who remembered that season 1 existed AND WAS GOOD, ACTUALLY. None of yā€™all have taste.
Ā Jes
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked Jes if it was true that she was clumsy and kept breaking props, and she said yes. She told a story about how one time there was a TV on set with a green screen and she hit it with her fist as a joke, and it went off. The tech guys were panicking trying to fix it, and sweating, and the minutes were passing and everyone was stressed out about it (she said two minutes is like two hours in TV, or something along those lines) and they couldnā€™t fix it. So as a joke she was like ā€œIā€™ll fix itā€ and hit it again AND IT CAME BACK ON. She also said they gave her a phone that I think had been blocked somehow (I didnā€™t fully understand the tech lingo haha) for a scene, and someone she accidentally called someone and the prop guy had no idea how she did it. She ALSO said that she kept forgetting about Avaā€™s wedding ring and the prop guy would come and give it to her while they were filming and ask her not to tell the director, and unless it was her or Caity filming, the director wouldnā€™t notice she wasnā€™t wearing it. So if you keep your eye out, there are some scenes where she doesnā€™t have the ring on.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  They were arguing about the cost of travelling in the Waverider. Caity was like ā€œwho pays for it??ā€ and Jes went ā€œnot the CW anymoreā€ šŸ’€ (Just one of many incidents of shade thrown at the CW this weekend lmaooo).
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  A few people asked the cast about certain fan theories. Someone asked Jes what she thought of the theory that when Time Mistress Ava was thrown out of the Waverider by Gideon, she landed in Gotham and became the female Riddler. Jes was shook by this and grabbed her phone like ā€˜wait I have to write that down to send to my agentā€™ šŸ˜‚. Someone else also asked if it had ever been considered that before Ava learned she was a clone, did we have any guarantee that we had always been seeing the same Ava, or was it possible that they might have dealt with multiple Avas without knowing. Jes said she thought she remembered a scene where that was mentioned, and that it had been suggested at some point, but again, it was cut. Someone else asked her if she thought that there was the potential that the newly cloned Sara and Ava could be evil, and Jes was mindblown haha. She said, and this is verbatim because I wrote it down immediately for posterity, ā€˜all theories are correct.ā€™ There you have it, folks. All your wildest Legends theories are true. Youā€™re welcome.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked if they could also do some ASMR. There was a joke that Caity was already doing it because she lost her voice over the weekend so she was whispering during the whole panel. Anyway, Jes said sheā€™d do some, and she moved the microphone behind her. It looked like she was holding it against her bum, and everyone was like :O because it looked like she was going to fart into it, until she saw our faces and was like ā€œItā€™s not gonna come out of my butt, guys, come on!ā€ Then she cracked her back DIRECTLY into the microphone. It was one of the most satisfying things I have ever heard. Iconic behaviour, actually. (Olivia also did some with her rings and said wearing rings is her whole personality.)
Ā Avalance
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  The first question at the Avalance panel was some guy who asked if Sara and Ava ended up in an island solely populated by women, would Sara remain faithful. This was NOT a popular question lmao, and for good reason, considering that Sara has literally never shown any signs of being unfaithful. Smells like biphobia to me. Anyway, Caity was like ā€˜of course sheā€™d stay faithfulā€™ and pointed out that Sara already lives in a world full of women and has never been unfaithful. I donā€™t know why he asked that question and everyone was appalled by it tbh.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone else asked if Sara and Ava broke up, would Sara end up with someone else on the Waverider, and Caity said no, she thought sheā€™d be done with that, and she wouldnā€™t shit where she ate again šŸ˜‚ she was like ā€œRomantic šŸ˜ā€ šŸ˜‚
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked if they remembered any of the choreography from the tango scene, and could they do it. They said no, but they did remember some of the other dances, and they did some of the choreo for us :D it was adorable, I donā€™t have any pictures but other people do, so theyā€™ll probably show up at some point.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked about what they thought the Avalance baby would be called. They debated over last names and combining it as ā€˜Larpeā€™. Jes started singing ā€˜baby Sharpe do-do-do-doā€™, and later someone suggested ā€˜Laurelā€™ as a name, so she started singing ā€˜Laurel Larpe do-do-do-do-do-doā€™. I tell you this purely because this has been on repeat in my head ever since and I want everyone else to suffer along with me.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  They talked about the Avalance pregnancy, and how everyone thought Ava would be the one to carry the baby. Caity said she wasnā€™t happy that Sara got pregnant because she didnā€™t want to be fat šŸ˜¬. Apparently there was also a pitch flying around that the pregnancy would be kind of symbiotic, if thatā€™s the right word, and that Ava would actually be pregnant but Sara would be the one with all the symptoms, like morning sickness, so sheā€™d have been puking everywhere while Ava was fine, which I actually think would have been extremely funny. Someone suggested maybe it would have been more of an alien-type pregnancy like Mickā€™s, so Sara wouldnā€™t have to be traditionally pregnant and they could fast-track it, but Caity said she didnā€™t want that to happen either šŸ˜‚ Jes also said some really sweet stuff about how nice it was for Sara and Ava to have that experience and to be able to have a kid that was just theirs and had their DNA, which was lovely.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked Jes a question about ā€˜playboy Oliver Queenā€™ and how sheā€™d have reacted if sheā€™d been there when he tried to take Sara on the boat. Jes had literally NO idea what he was talking about lmao, and after a minute of trying to explain, he was like ā€œwait, have you actually SEEN Arrow??ā€ Jes hid her face and did a walk of shame off the stage šŸ˜‚ then she came back and admitted she hadnā€™t seen it (I was shocked people expected her to have. I think people forget that theyā€™re IN the shows, theyā€™re not fans themselves) but she said she would. Eventually he kind of did a tl;dr of how Sara ended up on the Queenā€™s Gambit and asked what Ava would have done if she was there, and Jes was like ā€œIā€™d kill him.ā€ Very matter of fact šŸ˜‚. (As a side note, the panel the next day the guy came up to ask if sheā€™d watched it yet and Jes did ANOTHER walk of shame off the stage šŸ˜‚) like WHEN WOULD SHE HAVE HAD TIME. She did say her and her husband (who was also there, and who she said has been in three different Legends eps) would binge watch it on the plane ride home, and Caity said to skip to season 2 (the season she was in) and just watch that, which is valid tbh. Everyone cheered.)
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  There was a question about rep, and Caity talked about how she loved that being bi was just a part of Saraā€™s character, and it wasnā€™t all that she was. They did also talk about the ace rep and Olivia said she didnā€™t want to speak for Lisseth, but obviously theyā€™re close and they had talked about how Lisseth was very anxious about getting it right because she knew it was a massively underrepresented group of people.
Ā Cancellation Stuff/Saving Legends
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  During their panel, someone asked Nick, Matt, and Olivia what they were doing when they found out the show was cancelled. Matt said it was about 4am and he woke up to a bunch of emails from the cast and crew. They would have called him but you know. He was in the UK and it was 4am. So he just sort of rolled over and went back to sleep and it didnā€™t really register until afterwards. It was similar for Olivia, it was like 6am and it didnā€™t really hit her. I canā€™t really remember Nickā€™s reaction, but I think he said it was different for him because heā€™d already left the show and said his goodbyes as Nate and he felt bad that everyone else didnā€™t get the chance to do the same. The same person also asked if they were going to get more work after this and they were all like ā€œuhhh, I hope so.ā€ It was kind of uncomfortable I canā€™t lie; the person kept questioning them in a similar vein and it was a bit cringey. The panels were unmoderated and no one was vetoing any questions, and for the most part people were pretty respectful but there was the occasional question that was a bit awkward, though I donā€™t think it was malicious.
-Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā  Someone asked Jes, Caity, and Olivia, if Legends was picked up by another network, would they come back and do more. Jes was like ā€˜ARE YOU INSANE??ā€™ šŸ˜‚ The person also asked if theyā€™d prefer it to be on Netflix or HBO and Jes and Olivia were like ā€˜anywhere. Anywhere that will have us.ā€™ The same person also said she saw that Netflix were currently in negotiations to pick it up but I have no idea what her source was on that, and nobody really took her very seriously... Jes in particular seemed very resigned to the fact that it was over but very vocal that she would be 100% down to keep going if it was an option. She also joked about considering getting her real-estate license when it was cancelled, and about her frustration that they were all kept in limbo for six months by the network and couldnā€™t move on or start looking for more work because they didnā€™t know if theyā€™d be coming back or not.
Ā Okay, that is a LOT of stuff. Is there more? Definitely. They talked for four hours between them. I didnā€™t mention a lot of stuff when they were talking about other projects, for example. I have also been writing this for LITERAL hours so I am running out of steam, but I will definitely come back to it and reblog with any more stuff I remember if anything pops into my head, and if anyone has any questions or wants to try to jog my memory, have at it haha.
Iā€™ll also be doing a post for the Batwoman panels so keep an eye out for that!
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dang rmb when i said full thoughts coming soon,,, smh,,, life has happened. had a lot of shifts from work ?! and injured myself so i rly wasnt up for much but WE MOVE ON šŸ¤©šŸ˜Ž
ANW FULL THOUGHTS R HERE šŸ¤Ÿ (also yes there are some spoilers i guess?? idk and also im on my phone i cant add in that read more button ahevwkaj)
first of all let's talk about y/n šŸ’… girlie is ms relatable or wtv. i feel like i be truly seeing a version of me that i can relate to almost 100% (in terms of the way she is,,, not about how she is a woman šŸ‘© in STEM!! which is major slay šŸ«¶ of her but i for one am NOT āŒ a women in STEM). the way she prioritises her family and somewhat struggles with saying out those touchy touchy feelys kinda vibe šŸ˜ although girlie has no problem showing her dislike for mr jk at the beginning šŸ¤” but i truly enjoyed being able to relate so much to y/n in this story. usually in fics im able to relate to parts of the y/n character but this was just truly chef's kiss šŸ§‘ā€šŸ³šŸ˜˜
okay let's talk about jk šŸ¤Ÿ boi just wants to be loved by all ! portrayal of jk as someone who somewhat seeks being liked by all is something that i can kinda see ?! and it's kinda amusing to see how much he desires a friendship n to just be liked by y/n šŸ„ŗ (not that we shld be seeking validation frm everyone arnd us but it's kinda funny here!!) the way he connects with all the characters truly shows what kind of a person he is! and the way he is so quick to connect w baby boy šŸ„° something so fatherly about it and yet so childlike !! u can really see how the relationships that he has w those around him really reflects who he is in this story!! which i did enjoy seeing hehe
i wld like to think that the other characters had enough of a part in the story !! everyone had their time to shine āœØ n twas cute to imagine them all working in the hospital (giving me mad hospital playlist vibes šŸ„šŸŽµ) the casual grey's anatomy reference was made me teehee šŸ¤­ cant remember the last time i even caught up with that show
OVERALL ! so wholesome to see love bloom šŸ˜ i think the moment they lowkey started to really catch feelings things were mOVING ALONG SO FAST šŸ’Ø it was lowkey highkey kinda intense šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø i must say though i am truly a BIG FAN of cheesy lines that are kinda cringe šŸ˜¬ but also makes all the butterflies in your tummy šŸ¦‹ kinda thing (when jk typed anyth for u, my heart ā¤ļøšŸ«¶expanded to the size of the universe i kid u not) it was super refreshing to see this fic and idk if it's just me but when i read fics with DOCTORS in it i alw presume the doctors to be in their late 20s or early 30s just because med school is long n wtv,,, n bcs of that i think it affects my thought process when im reading ! i dont think it's as crazy as before but i know that many of us continue to have all this pressure to have life kind of figured out by a certain age but here we see them still trying to navigate life and love despite work and all the other responsibilities that they have which is major #RelatableMoment and i know that this isnt the main point of it but it was just something small that i took away from it keke! i know i m eXTREMELY off point right now but also it is 3.23 in the morning so goodnight all šŸ¤Ÿ btw i lov u kimi for this <3
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pairing: jungkook + oc
au/genre: enemies to friends to lovers?? hospital au, crack, grumpy/overachiever oc, social butterfly/annoying jungkook!!!
warnings: an unhealthy amount of needing the validation of others, competitive dynamics, and explicit language
parts: 30 / 30 (02/14/22)
note: tbh this fic was planned before casual (ToT)ā€ itā€™s ok. weā€™re here now kekeke. pls enj this series! + welcome back to my sad attempt of consistent updates !!!Ā 
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