#// oh please theyre clearly besties

[flxshy]

@heedingcalls ( x )

How had he got himself captured again? Wasn't he supposed to be slippery? Something he had prided himself on and bragged to Asmodeus that he was. It was his reasoning for being able to get out of the castle once in awhile.

"Ah- come on you act like you know me.... Striker was it?"

The jester squirms to at least see the hired hitman. A sneer on his face at the friendly words of the serpent.

"Why on satan's hell would I be sick of you? Not the fact that you tied my ass up when I was on a lube run!"

Of course that was a lie, he was getting milk. Not that he needed to know that. Clearly there was something about sexual jokes that threw the assassin off his game.

"What's on your mind mate?"

[constellama]

Noah is dead, clearly nothing can get worse than this (final raven boys live-blog post :D)

Llama reads TRC: Chapters 31-48 of The Raven Boys

Chapter 31

Ronan is grieving for Noah :(

DECLAN?

Ronan bestie please don’t be drinking all alone in your room <3

He’s getting kicked out D:

“Then you’ve killed him” ok ik Ronan’s home life is kinda awful but why is everyone so sure he’s gonna die? I feel like I’m missing something here

Gansey !!

Why do they have so many cars what

Gansey using his rich people superpowers to keep Ronan in school

OHHH SLEEPWALKING.

Ok either it was MENTIONED before that Ronan sleepwalks and I completely missed it or I’m just dumb

Is that why they keep thinking he’s gonna die

Gansey shoving his credit cards everywhere is so real though

Gansey stop taking so much responsibility for your friends challenge !! Impossible apparently!! This boy is so sad pls Gansey not everything is up to you stop carrying the weight of the world you’re literally a teenager

Chapter 32

“And Noah’s dead. But Parrish is here.” Waiting for the day that they eventually get used to Noah being dead and start joking about it

Every time Adam mentions his home life I want to grab him and run very very far away

Uh oh

Don’t kiss pls that would not end well I think

“She felt like she’d done so much work to appear as eccentric as possible and still, when it came down to it, she was sensible.” I’m not good at words but this sentence. Oh this sentence. It makes me sad in a way I can’t describe.

CHAINSAW!!

Ronan and Chainsaw are the best duo actually

Ronan looks so happy when holding Chainsaw :(

Wait, ok. I’ve heard about Ronan being able to dream things into existence (it’s one of the things I got spoiled on) so I’m wondering, did he get Chainsaw from his dreams?

NOAH

NOAH MY BOY

“I was…more…when I was alive.” WHAT IF I CRIED

“You’re enough now. I missed you.” THEYRE BEST FRIENDS ACTUALLY IDC IDC

Whatever you do don’t imagine Noah braiding Blue’s hair <- sobbing

“And he’s about to be a were, too” DAMN??

“Noah, please don’t die for real” ouch ok I’m completely normal about this actually mhm

I WAS RIGHT!! HES CONNECTED TO GANSEY’S INCIDENT WITH HORNETS

THE DUDE WHO SACRIFICED HIM WAS WHELK WASNT IT

Noah is so sad I’m gonna cry

“But you already know.” OH???

Chapter 33 (TW: Gun)

Gansey bestie pls don’t crash your car

Aaaand the Camaro’s stopped

This is like the worst possible timing

WHELK??

NO NONOO

RUN GANSEY

I’m cryign imagine your car breaking down in the middle nowhere and suddenly your teacher appears and mugs you

THE JOURNAL

Gansey pls you have a gun to your head

YEAHHH PUNCH HIM

Whelk just. Just left? Bro just tried to mug a student 😭??

GO HOME GANSEY PLS BE SAFE

Chapter 34

Omg time to go through Neeve’s things

I love Persephone she’s just an anomaly

Butternut?? 😨

Someone called Neeve to find the ley line,,,it was Whelk wasn’t it,,,

UH OH THEYRE BACK

Chapter 35

Adam making tea :D

Ok so now everything’s in order, things are starting to come together. This can only end in two ways

Oh? The ley line will be woken up soon

DO NOT CALL THE POLICE

Big things are happening and I am NOT scared (lie)

Chapter 36 (TW: Abuse for this chapter, stay safe)

Adam not wanting to leave the car :( Don’t go in Adam just leave pls

“Loser” You’re so right, Ronan

Oh God Adam’s dad is awful

NOO ADAM

ADAM??

RONAN

GET HIM RONAN

What did he do to his ear oh my god

Adam pls

“Can I…can I press charges?” YESSS ADAM MY BOY

Chapter 37

Ew whelk chapter

Ok either Neeve is actually gonna help him or she’s planning to trick him

I’m hoping on the latter

Chapter 38

Adam’s ok :D

His ear is screwed up though :(

“You win,” Adam pls it’s not like that :(

These boys are so sad

I get why Adam wants to do something on his own terms but he also doesn’t have to endure all this abuse because of it :(((

WHAT THE HELL GANSEY

BRO???

GANSEY

Gansey you could have said *literally* anything else

Adam :((((

Screw Adam’s mother too she sucks !!!

Chapter 39

NOAHHH

Adam didn’t want Blue to know about his family life I FEEL ILL

Call from Malory!

“Jane” PFFFFT

I’m sorry what

HIS SKIN FELL OFF? What in the magnus archives—

“My words are unerring tools of destruction, and I’ve come unequipped with the ability to disarm them.” 😭??

“What a fine contribution to the world I am.” Gansey :(

Yes Blue you should spit in Gansey’s eye, it would be funny

Adam pls you could get hurt

Guys pls

Chapter 40

Ok yeah Neeve was definitely lying

Oh. She kidnapped him. Kinda slay of her tbh

“Also, Neeve hadn’t tied tightly enough.” Uh oh 😀

Chapter 41 (TW: Gun)

“Your hair is the color of dirt,” “It knows where it came from” IM SHAKING YOU ADAM !!! STOP HATING YOURSELF !!!

Do NOT kiss PLEASE

“Keep being brave.” they are so special

“There was blood everywhere” haha what.

Oh my god his dad had a GUN??

Thinking about Adam makes me sad

He needs a hug

Adam.

ADAM NO

Oh my god Adam what are you about to do

Chapter 42

GANSEY WAKE UP

HES GONNA WAKE UP THE LEY LINE ALL BY HIMSELF??

Chapter 43

“Are you sleeping?” “Yes,” just like me fr

Santa Claus metaphor,,, I love these two they’re the best mother daughter duo

His name was Artemus?? Kinda sounds like Artemis,,,

“Drugs might be better” lmao

The Raven boys are here!! Go save Adam!!

And get Neeve too, from whatever she’s off doing

Chapter 44

Adam !!!

All the descriptions of Cabeswater are so pretty ough

UH

ADAM NO

YEAHHH NEEVE KILL HIM!! KILL WHELK !!

Oop, back to Blue’s pov

“MURDERED” Noah :(

“REMEMBERED” WHAT IF I SOBBED !! WHAT IF I BROKE DOWN AND CRIED !!

Chapter 45

Whelk is so annoying I need him gone

Oh my god

The ritual doesn’t work if it’s just murder??? So it just wouldn’t work at all if Whelk did it :0

What’s up with Neeve’s eyes bro

WHAT

WHERE’D NEEVE GO

UH OH

ADAM GET OUT OF THE PENTAGRAM

“I sacrifice myself.” ADAM NO

HEY??? WHAT

Chapter 46

“Was I so awful?” NOO GANSEY IT WASNT YOUR FAULT :(

White horned beasts 😭?? Literally what is happening

Are they unicorns though this is important 👀

Oop they’re in the vision tree

WHAT

Chapter 47

Gansey actually saw the same vision this time omg

Personally I think that it’s a good thing that Whelk is dead. That’s just me though personally I think it’s incredibly beneficial actually

THE TREES

GLENDOWER??

Chapter 48

Is this an epilogue??

It seems like it

Ok so Neeve just straight up despawned bc of the mirrors

Noah :( he probably misses his family so badly :(((

“He’s sorry for drinking your birthday schnapps” what if I cried

OH THEY DUG HIM UP

NOAHHH MY BOY HES BACK

Ronan?

“I guess now would be a good time to tell you, I took Chainsaw out of my dreams.” I WAS RIGHT!!!

BUT WHY ARE YOU ONLY MENTIONING THIS NOW

Good God. I have so many thoughts. This book was so fun to read I can’t wait for the next ones :D !! I’m gonna take a bit of a break before I read the next one though. Just a heads up, I probably won’t live-blog the next books like I did with this one, but I will post my thoughts occasionally (just not as much). Anyways, Live Laugh Love Noah Czerny🙏

[eggratgremlin]

Saw you saying youd enjoy ppl asking you abt ur ocs and hylics so

Show off your guys!!! Id be real happy to see and read up on ocs! And or whatever hylics stuff you mean haha

Oh hehehe i have so many… so much

these 4 are jojo ocs technically, theyre apart of my silly little jojo fan part which is based off of Part 4 of jojo hehe but the blond one Jiren and the pink haired one Sunako, oh they are like my children, my very mentally unwell children,

Jiren (he/they) likes teeth a lot, hes also very prone to anxiety and getting angy and then burning things, he is adopted but he does not know that… hmm wonder what would happen when he finds out his dad Jouta has been lying to him all this time….

Sunako (she/they) has a brain i swear she just mostly uses it on like trying to catch rats for food and liking women a lot and also doing freaky doctor Frankenstein shit, her mom was Aya Tsuji! and yeah they saw her get killed by Kira! And Jiren looks strangely similar….. hmmmm… so she beat him the fuck up, knocked one of his teeth out! And Jiren he pathetically picked it up and offered it all like “pleAse haave my tooth just stOp” and that’s clearly a sign of friendship so Sunako just yoinked out one of her own teeth and gave him it! And 3 years later they are besties

Carmen Annikka (green hair and all pronouns) they are the villain of all this, mf has a vendetta against the speedwagon foundation cause they changed his life derogatory (they got fucked up by stand arrow shit) and now they have this crazy little stand soul shard that basically allows for them to steal other peoples stands and ooh boy that turns her into an abomination fucked up creature like from The Thing mixed with a werewolf

Aketima (she/xe) im stilling working on her but she’s Akira Oitoishi’s Kid and she stole all his cool shit that he wore back in the day! Shes also a stand user and while it may seem like shes really chill about her dad she has very complex feelings about him as he like did kill a man and totally abandoned xem and her mom, but now he’s the only family xe have and hes doing a better job at dading than she thought he would, Oh and also She’s Sunako’s Girlfriend!

(I have more jojo ocs but they are like part 5 based hehe)

If you have (or anyone else has) any specific questions about or for these scrimbos Just go ahead and Ask!! And hehe maybe I will post art of their stands one day or if asked

[fighting-these-demons]

Episode 11

AUGH THE WAY THEY SAID HI TOGETHER WAS SO FREAKING CUTE

LMAO Lost in thought!

SHEBDBDJDJEHSJ

He's so Tsun and God it's so funny!

Don't worry Nirei! Suo's (probably) got your back! (Maybe)

DJDJDBDJDJDBDHDHSHSHSHSH

SAKURA!!!!!! You just told Nirei to man up about the stares and you're running away!!!!!!

SUO!!!!!!!!! RHEJDJDBDJDUDHDHDU

Lmao Nirei you poor guy but he really does live sharing info so even though he's shy and scared Suo pushed him to do something he knows that Nirei would love and that the class would likely appreciate about him, which would help him build confidence and make friends while also taking the heat off of Sakura who absolutely can't handle that.

Oh yay!!!! Another Best Boy incoming!!!

Oh lord please tell me that protein shake is at least flavored my guy. Why is it white????? That looks so bad and the level of sound they gave to him drinkingnit that they don't usually give to people drinking is uh....ITS BANANA FLAVORED???????

Zbsjdndndjsjsbsjsjsj

Wow. Just wow.

😃💖

His name is Tsuge???? And Nirei has a bitty crush?????????

Suo was not thrilled about Tsuge either joining the convo or that Nirei clearly likes him or about asking him a question he didn't like before and I can't tell which.

I'm about to hop on a rare pair train right now with how much Nirei is stoked and blushing.

IM ON THE BEST BOY TRAIN BESTIES HES 2ND BEST BOY NIREI'S BEEN KNOCKED OUT

NIREITSUGE NIREITSUGE NIREITSUGE NIREITSUGE NIREITSUGE

HE RESOONDED WELL TO NIREI'S STRANGE STALKER TENDENCIES I CANT

HELP ME IM DROWNING

THEYVE GOT THAT HEIGHT DIFFERENCE TOO

OH MY GOD WHAT IF HE STARTS TRAINING NIREI?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

LMAO Sakura AND Suo being annoyed at how much Nirei likes him!!!!!

Poor Suo!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

He didn't even have a chance outside the fight to really lock in Nirei's admiration.

GOD THEYRE SO CUTE

Shshdbejejeb

NOOOOOOOO HOE VOULD THEY ABANDONNHIM HES SUCH A GOOD GUY!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔

Nirei didn't even get to tell his story!!!!! 😭

NIREI LOVES YOU TSUGE!!!! FORGET THOSE GUYS

Eeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!! Failed group hangout turned NireiTsuge date!!!!! (It won't happen but gosh I wish it would)

Aw dang! 😭 I mean I love that they give in to him when they could shake him off and run off at any time! 💖🥺

BUT DANG I WANTED THAT SOLO HANGOUT 😭💔

Of course Sakura chose the corner and Suo didn't want to sit with him but thay left Nirei sitting with him which was worse. He's so passive aggressive about the food! 😂

Nirei looks so betrayed and horrified in that moment. He's like "Damn that switch came out of nowhere!" But there was no actual switch at all lmao.

Thats Hella Gay and REEKS of Kuw*meshi amd Kuw*hi but I'm already cheering for so Nirei. o7

Literally Tsukura would be like "I'm at the kuw*meshi! I'm at the kuw*hi! I'm at the combination kuw*meshi-kuw*hi!"

Oh wow Date Crasher!

The way Suo and Tsuge look at Nirei when he's geeking out is Everything!

Suo can read everyone like a book and I love it.

Poor Sakura keeps getting pushed further and further into his own personal hell. 😂

FINALLY Some average embarrassment!

TSUGE DUDE WHAT?!?!?!!?!?!

Either the Autism is strong with this one or he has previous beef with Kiryu.

I'm glad Kiryu is being so straightforward with him! He needs it. Ithink possible he may take that as an insult though. 👀

I LOVE THIS ANIME THEY TOOL THE BEST POSSIBLE ROUTE YET AGAIN I LOVE IT HERE!!!!!!!!!

SJDBDJDJDBDJ THEY took the time to clarify that it wasn't about girls but was actually about scaring others needlessly! 😫💖

They've got the shippers' backs!!!!

Tsugiryu has MAJOR appeal ngl.

I LOVE TSUGE SO MUCH AUUUUUGGGGHHHH

SJDBDBDJDJDBDJDJDJDBDJ

Tsuge honey pay attention!

Having Nirei and the girl react together is priceless! 😘👌

LMAO how does scaring people needlessly go against a motto like that?????? I love him so much!

I wish we could see more of Kiryus fighting style.

Aw good for her getting to see them all in cation and hear the motto! Hopefully her and the other girls will feel safer!

AW SUO YOURE SO NICE! You offered him support before he even realized he'd need it! 😂💖

Aaaaaaaawwwwwww!!!!! HOW CUTE OH MY GOD!!!!! IM SO GLAD HE HAS HIS FIRST FRIENDS!!!!!

Lol Go Girl! Put your number in his phone! 🎉👍

Wait that was an ACTUAL manga cap????? And not a silly comic?????

Enomoto is part delinquent and part cat/pigeon/motorcycle.

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrolling those Rs for every word! 😂💖

Suo is so sweet! 💖

He knew that Kiryu and Tsuge would back him without issue.

That means it'll be down to a Kyotaro/Sakura battle! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Woooooooo!!!!! Can't wait for next week!!!!

[skybristle]

day 3 thoughts. Giggles below cut for spoilers

I KNEW IT I KNEWWW IT CLOTTED CREAM IS SOOO EVIL. Bitch. Whore. does raise a lot of questions abt the soul jam tho. Im curious myself espresso and crepe are the autism besties "Hey! 2% conivvingness" CREPE PLEASE,,,,,,,,,, also i really really really hate how clotted cream is behaving towards crepe. I get that that's his default but the poor kid has a LONG history of trust issues and mistreatment and abuse of affection so seing them being taken advantage of again that way is,,, :[[[ oooo,,, soul jam lore,,, though that implies that the ancients are not their original owners?? so??? Girlie ? ? why does clotted cream hesitate before calling espresso maddie's colleague. hello ?? THE SOUL JAMS ARE SHATTERED??? THEN WHY THE FUCK DO CACAO AND HB AND PV HAVE THEIR'S NO PROBLEM. unless it's specifically white lily's jam??? clotted cream losing his mask after cacao raises his sword to him. Haha bozo ohhh that makes more sense the power shattered not the jam itself. More annoyances with the opening cutscene GOLDEN CHEESE CONTENT. 'she was a fun sort'! I KNEW IT YESSS her and hollyberry r besties and drinking buddies forever and ever and ever since none of the other ancients can hold their booze [besides PV but he refuses to get any further than tipsy]. ALSO. once again with the speaking for/of another woman thing hollyberry,,,, Come on meemaw we know shes your ex admit it /lh NO THEYRE GOING BACK ON THE BEING SHATTERED SOULJAM THING???? what IS it. i love crk a lot but the worldbuilding is HORRIBLE. this is best saved for another rant but. Foams at the mouth JUST realized ser is probably a gender neutral version of sir/ma'am. diversity win! the power-hungry government of a faraway nation is trans friendly! /lh LOVE how literaly everyone gets pissed at clotted cream. SO TRUE. trans on cis VIOLENCE clotted cream stfu i hate you kill kill kill STOP MANIPULATING PEOPLE fuck you fuck you fuck you ",,,white lily,,,, will not be returning this time" OUGHHHH GIRL. cannot wait for PV to spill the tea yasss cacao see thru his bullshit. go peepaw goo. 'i know your deceitful kind oh so well!" OHHH thats so fucked up girl. he doesnt want to be exploited that way again. So glad affogato was canonically murdered by carrow <3 /lh "you were there when she was resurrected, were you not?" NO. HE WASNT. what the fuck is this TIMELINE. DUDE????? they want us to think the war was 320483209483209432 years ago but like clearly it can't be more than like 30. BUT GINGERBRAVE IS 12????? HELLO??? devsis what are you ON. oh wait im stupid they're talking abt chap 8. My bad uh ohhh the tea is spilling hate hate hate how they're setting up a redemption arc with dark enchantress. i don't CAREEE she's killed thousands of people ruined millions of lives manipulated multiple children shut the FUCK up OYSTER'S ENVOY IS HOT HELLO? ma'am give me your hand in marraige NOW!!! IM GAY???????. Hello ?? GOODBYE. anyways final thoughts killing affoga- wait wrong one. Killing clotted cream forever and ever and ever and ever. Punches him. Kicks Him.

[give-me-hohen]

so. dearest friend. infodump me about blorbo from your shows please 🕴️

for no particular reason i just want to hear you babble about blorbo from your shows 🙇

heheheheh ok

toh spoilers btw!

so ig ill be talking about hunter toh, as hes probably my second favorite character. raine would be my first favorite, but unlike hunter i don't have a lot to say about raine. i love raine a lot, they're so <333. i love how they're like good enby rep and their relationship with eda is so cute. like I LOVE THEM SM <33 raeda makes me so happy whenever i see it! they're just so perfect for each other and i l_{APIKao i love them <3 like they care so much for eda, and like you can see how they feel so guilty seeing how much the curse effects her daily life. THE LOOK THEYRE GIVING HER IN THE LATEST EPISODE PAIN ME. and like in them the breaks i love how they like instantly become friends, its just so <33. they're perfect. i love both raine and eda sm. i don't know why i love them both sm, maybe its bcuz I've rarely ever see someone trans in a relationship in media? idk just ajaks

ok so i accidentally talked about raine. now time for hunter! hunter ,where do i begin.. fun fact- i didn't originally like him when hunting palismen came out. like i didn't dislike him, but i saw all this cool fanart- and was like- ur making this for HIM? THEN ECLISPE LAKE. AND OHHH MY GODDDDDddd. my mind instantly changed on him and he became one of my favs. like. i am sick. him having a mental breakdown due to failing his task RESONATED WITH ME. it was.. oh my god. that whole episode. hunters a stupid baby man (affectionately) but GOD that episode. i HATE his relationship with belos, belos is clearly abusive, and its sickening. like, its so sick that he acted so kind ' the titans has big plans for you ' and soflty smile. LIKE??? THATS CLEARLY GASLIGHTING. I HATE BELOS. and godd, the whole episode is hunter trying to prove his worth to belos- he doesn't want to get abandoned by him, and he GENUINELY thinks belos is a good person. and uh, that's what makes it so awful. it makes me sick to think about it. but hunters character growth is so??? his friendship with flapjack- and after words gus and willow is so :]. i like how you can see how he isn't a bad person- misguided sure, but he genuinely thinks following belos is the right thing to do. anyways, the sports one. i cant recall the name on the top of the head- BUT OH MY GOD. IT WASNT AS ANGSTY AS THE OTHER EPISODES- BUT IT WAS SWEET. SEEING HUNTER ACTUALLY MAKE FRIENDS- AND DARIUS?? MY OPINION ON HIM CHANGED. DARIUS ACTUALLY BEING A GOOD PARENT FIGURE IN HUNTERS LIFE! and i think its interesting to see how his trauma dictates a lot of his interactions. like when he originally sees the team- hes disappointed. the way he's raised means you cant be weak for a moment- and if you are then you'll get killed (thanks belos, you're a great guardian /s). but he made his first friends!................... then proceed to almost break their friendship. almost. i am actually, really thankful, that they were understanding about hunter y'know,,, trying to force them into the emperors' coven. AND CHARACTER GROWTH. SEEING HIM REALIZE THAT WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG- AND MAKE AMENDS FOR THAT. OLD HUNTER WOULDNT HAVE DONE THAT. and i love how its the pallismen that made him realize it. flapjack has helped him grow as a person, and its just so <33. then.. we have hollow mind. this episode messed me up... me and my bestie watched it together and it is... i was shaking.. it IS. HAEIDKAJUHD HOLLOW MIND. OH MY GOD. SO BASICALLY, HUNTER BEING A GRIMWALKER WAS CONFIRMED. AND I FELT SICK. THAT WAS SICK DANA TERRACE. and like.. hunter getting his whole world shattered. finding out his uncle is an awful person, and that HE KILLED HIS ENTIRE FAMILY. and like i love hollow mind. how they choose to show belos backstory with the pictures makes it so.. ALSO HOW HE TRIED TO KILL HUNTER. LIKE... I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO DIE! THAT WOULDVE BEEN SO.. DASHIODHAIODH AND THEN AT THE END/? HUNTER HAVING A PANIC ATTACK.O H MY GODDDD. anyways eda handled that amazingly well, giving them space after getting out of belos mind. and im like.. imagine u spend ur whole life following ur uncle for what you belive is a good cause- just to figure out hes actually a witchhunter and killed ur entire family- oh yeah! and you arent a witch, you're this thing called a grimwalker! yeahh i was not okay. LABYRINTH RUNNERS! LOVE IT! it really brings his growth in almost full circle, i loved seeing him and gus friendship ! it was sweet, though he needs a bath :/. but i think a scene that stood out to me was definitely how hunter originally rushed into save gus, AND THE SCENE AT THE ENd where gus is doing trauma vortex, how hunter faces all that just to help gus. i find that sweet, and how he uses the same technique gus taught him during his panic attack to try and calm gus down (and fails horribly, ) also i find it <3 how flapjack was looking for food for hunter...oh yeah and how hunter was researching grimwalkers. ok, one more episode! the most recent- clouds on the horizon.

i uh... reached tumblrs limit. so have to cut this short!

[rainegrenade]

Grace and Simon for the meme?

Damn, you are asking for one of my faves and my #1 least fave IT character at once x3 Interesting choice!

^^^^Please ask me more^^^^^^^ long post ahead! Contains heavy SPOILERS

Grace Monroe

✩ favorite thing about them: her whole redemption arc! One of the best character redemption I've ever witnessed. I love how she learnt to care about Hazel despite knowing she's a denizen and not a passenger. Moreover Grace fully acknowledges the harm she has done to others and is actively trying to get better and make amends and that's one of the most admirable things i can ever think of. I love Grace. She knows she was wrong and isn't afraid to admit it and confront her past.

✩ least favorite thing about them: How manipulative she was. I really really hated those moments. Especially how she tried to act as if she didn't know Hazel is a denizen in front of Simon after Hazel transformed into a turtle. It really broke poor Hazel :c ✩ favorite line: "I'm not responsible for your problems! I don't owe you anything!"

✩ brOTP: I feel like she would have been besties with Tuba but we all know what happened to Tuba :c I think she could also be a big sister figure to Hazel.

✩ OTP: None ?

✩ nOTP: Grace X Simon ... just no...

✩ random headcanon: She's aroace!

✩ unpopular opinion: I want to see her apologize to Hazel and maybe team up with Amelia, I feel like they could learn a lot from each other

✩ song i associate with them : Oh no- Marina and The Diamonds

✩ favorite picture of them:

My #1 fave Grace moment. I love how he's perfect foil to Grace ul about her own feelings.. also super heartbreaking scene TToTT

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Simon Laurent

✩ favorite thing about them: I love how he's perfect foil to Grace. While she moves on and works on herself, he's stuck in the past doubling down on his wrongdoings. In order to get better you need to accept that you're in the wrong and work on yourself , the road you choose may actually lead to your doom -his character arc gets that message across loudly and clearly.

✩ least favorite thing about them : I think it's obvious. HE KILLED TUBA and he has shown 0 remorse for his actions...

✩ favorite line: "I'm always with you.. We're team! "

✩ brOTP: at the beginning i saw him and Grace as besties but now i can't think of any brOTP including him

✩ OTP : NOPE

✩ nOTP : Simon X Grace.. i know he's obviously into her but not only it would be toxic AF but also she doesn't see him in that way

✩ random headcanon: i think in his messed up way he cares (or rather cared )about Grace a lot? he saw her as his closest person.

✩ unpopular opinion: He was perfectly redeemable character before he killed Tuba. Yes I know he does have a LOT of issues but they are not the excuse, theyre merely an explanation to his abhorrent behavior. The act of killing Tuba really made him fall into spiral. I'd love to read an AU fic in which Simon either doesn't kill Tuba or shows some regrets to his action- I am very interested how things would play out then.

✩ song i associate with them: Don't stop- Innerpartysystem

✩ favorite picture of them:

He just looks so cute and innocent here..

[loverofallthingssmart]

👀 new wip?? please tell me about it

KSDJHG HI ANON

its not so much a wip as an idea rattling through my brain while trying to read my textbook

because i am well....me i will tell you HOW this wip came to be which is literally i was listening to this playlist titled "desi wlw enemies to lovers vibes we're manifesting for me" and i thought... omg... i should TOTALLY write about that

and so i have literally 0 words and only basic tropes and not even a plot of literally malayali wlw being dumb because god i want rep so bad

ANYWAY actually involving the wip here's what i have so far (ignore the caps, its apparently a new thing i do like only when im in my notes app so like):

tentative names: roopa and ???? (fun story i saw this ask and was like oh shit i have to have at least one name for identification purposes and i LITERALLY thought of roopa but like??? i like it?? a lot so its staying for now <3)

TO BE TITLED

QUEENDOMS

TWO GIRLS IN PALAKKAD (ANCIENT PALAKKAD??? SOME VERY CLEARLY KERALA TYPE VILLAGE???) eesha just say u want malayali wlw rep and leave

CHILDHOOD FRIENDS TO STRANGERS TO ENEMIES TO LOVERS

DUAL POV LIKE DUH… mayhaps in kalyani pov…only cause i love her the most <3 idk

roopa is close to the queen and sees orphan child and befriends her but then one day orphan child is gone (bc she’s sent to other queen but they don’t know that)

NIGHTMARE SCENE (SPECIFICALLY ONE HAS A BAD DREAM AND THE OTHER GOES TO CHECK BUT THEN SHE GETS PINNED DOWN BC THE KNE SLEEPING IS STILL OUT OF IT AND SHE FINALLY WAKES UP AND SEES IT LIKE THE TENSION….IMMACULATE)

OHHHH ESPECIALLY THEYRE LIKE CAMPING OUT UNDER THE STARS OKAY OKAY

BOTH ASSASSINS FOR THE SAME TARGET: A KINGDOM TRYING TO OVERTAKE BOTH QUEENS

FORCED PROXIMITY

PRETEND TO BE LOVERS FOR THE MISSION?

BOTH DONT WANT TO BE IN LOVE BC NO MATTER HOW IRRATIONAL THEY HOLD A TORCH FOR THE GIRL THEY USED TO RUN AROUND WITH

HASHTAG CONFLICT OVER THEIR FEELINGS BETWEEN CHILDHOOD FRIEND AND ENEMY WHEN THEYRE THE SAME FUCKING PERSON!!!!! im going to MILKKKK this so bad ohmygod this is what ml prepared me for

what if…..the queens planned this????……..🥴😏🤯🤫😋🤨

ONE LOVES MANGOES AND ROOPA LOVES ORANGES

jealousy scene where one of them is like hmm it’s a shame we have to kill the king he’s lowkey hot (this is NOT unrealistic bc this is MY thought process) and roopa is like PSSSSHHHHH NO HES NOT HES SOO UNSKILLED IM SURE IM BETTER THAN HIM IN LIKE SOO MANY WAYS (roopas mind: girl wtf why r u acting like a fool)

awkward coming out scene i think…middle of an argument roopa mentions like “go back to ur boy” or smth and this is like the 8263rd time it’s happened so the other snaps and screams “OHMYGOD LITERALLY SHUT UP im into girls” and roopa goes “oh.” and suddenly the one who came out is like out of juice to scream more so she’s like “yeah.” and then then roopa is like um uh “me too” bc she feels bad and it’s just EMBARRASSING that would be everything i think (this is going to be one of my fave scenes i just know it)

BRING KALYANI BACK TO BE BESTIES W ONE OF THEM LIKE THE ONE CLOSE FO THE QUEEN

KALYANI STILL HAS PLANT POWERS?? everyone is bestowed a gift smth like “the queen said everyone has one.” never reveal what hers is until the end?????? idk an idea maybe

THE OTHER GIRL SAYS “SAY IT AGAIN IT SOUNDED GOOD” AFTER ROOPA THREATENS HER LIFE (FIRST MEETING??) i heart flirty brown girls <3

and that’s all i have rn anon!!! hope u liked it bc i haven’t planned this one but i am EXCITEDDD and ty for showing an interest in my wip 🥺 the smile that came on my face when i saw this was WAHH mwah! <3

[homieswithhades]

ep 15:

so hold the fuck on....... theyre now blaming jehee for that rapist bastards injury/death????????????????????????????? joonho is gonna eat someone alive 

see from an non-korean speakers pov i cannot tell if the acting in this show is really good or not but i know damn well hanyang’s actor is just acting with his ENTIRE SOUL. i KNOW hes good

i cant belive they didnt let minchul out ?!??!! jehyeok is fuckin plotting rn i can tell 

jehyeok is such a sweetheart :(( nd joonho clearly wanted to go after paeng i cant wait to see char dev there

slightly unrelated but ZICO AND MINO HAVE A TRACK ON THE OST??? YASSSS

i forget this guys name the junior officer,,, “maybe captain na has a past we dont know about” mood mood mood mood

 na hyeongsu... ok noted

NOOOO HANYANGS LITTLE HEART ON THE WINDOW.... AHFVAGHDHS I LOVE HIM SMMMMMMM

OHHHHHHH i knew she was minchul’s daughter !!! i knew it !!!! oh im so 💔💔💔

hanyang. hanyang no. hanyang, i am  begging on my fucking knees right now dont. dont fuckign. dont fuckign do ot. hanyang plkease.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO imma just end it i think. JIWON HAD A RING FOR HIM MAND EVERYTING NO literally im gonna bring about the end of fucking days i cant stand this hsit anymore i cant i cant i cant LET THE GAYS FUCKING WIN PLEASE 

the shit is hitting the fan too hard for there to only be 2 hours left of content 

ohhh ok i see false alarm some ppl just dont like seeing a girlboss like jehee winning shes fine. but gottamb she did not commit to that kiss like at all bro. girlie please thats joonho right there. id be climbing him like a tree bestie

no please enough homophobia in this episode i dont feel like seeing jiho and jehyeok gawk at eachoother. im tired. 

oof. off to a bad start w jiho. tsundere ass bitch i h8 u. can i skip this flash back. please. im putting it on speed 2 i rllt dgaf ab their silly little rings.  ok its the cheek pinch. ill accept  that .

minchul is actually getting the christmas pardon 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 pls paeng is so so happy i love them sm  TYHEYRE ALL SO HAPPY PLEASLPELAPSLE IM GONNA CRYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!! JEHYEOK HUGGING HIM AND CRYING????? PLEASE IM GONNA DISSOLVE 

good lord that better not backfire on jungwoo.... like mans deserved that punch but that was pretty public,................

ok jiho spit some facts for once in her fucking life,,,, and +1 for calling him good boy ig,, he got so flustered plsss

jesus god joonho where are you walking so intensely OH GOD OH FUCK NOOOOOOOOOOOOO JAILBIRD NOOOO HE GOT JEBAITED BY THAT FUCKIGN WOODSHOP CHIEF YEOM BASTARD ISTGGGGG jehyeok is literally gonna commit a crime godspeed and godbless 

[si-nging-ren]

*CRACKS KNUCKLES*

okay. ive decided im going to discontinue the jirou x reader fanfic "wrong number, my bad" for a number of reasons that i will get into in a bit. i have also, however, decided to create an smau for hawks (probably not, but who ive decided on for now) x reader, based on something more personal about me. the goal of the story being more personal is to give me a better layout for how it should continue on and the feelings can be more genuine than me making up stories on a whim and hoping they work. i will give out the plan for wnmb, however, so that anybody interested can still understand how the story wouldve ended.

now as for why im abandoning wnmb.

1. i dont feel the energy to write it anymore. i dont like where the story is going, and with my current mental state and status at school, i dont have the ability to start over or try again. i font have the ideas for the story and just dont vibe with it.

2. mental reasons. i can't stick to the schedule i made for the story as well as i used to be able to, and also personal mental health reasons that sort of keep me from doing so.

3. there are personal life reasons that cause this, but jirou has slowly evolved into somewhat of a discomfort character. i dont want to get into the reasons as to why, but i dont like her that much and bad memories come up whenever i try to sit with her in my head for too long.

thats really all for why i dont want to continue wnmb, but for anybody interested, here was the plan as to how the story was planned out (via notes):

- [x] yn and mina and ochaco do be talking doe

- [x] basically introductions

- [x] same with jirou baku toko yaomomo and denks

- [x] but THEN

- [x] yn and jirou talk :DDD

- [x] jirou basically says that theyre not annoying

- [x] yn says their typical clown shit

- [x] "aidjskjdh thanks you daddy 🥺"

- [x] jirou doesnt answer for a wholeass hour

- [x] "sorry had to go to church and clense from that sin"

- [x] "o-oh okay 😔 daddy doesnt love me"

- [x] "there are so many things wrong with that"

- [x] "😳😳😳"

- [x] "im starting to wish that i blocked you"

- [x] "nONONONONO IM SORRY"

- [x] "nyways what did you wanna talk about d-"

- [x] "......."

- [x] "arling :)))"

- [x] poor jirou just wanted to know about who they are

- [x] "name, hobby, talent, interests, whatever i just wanna know about you"

- [x] yn hops over to twitter all "omg theyre so sweet 🥺🥺🥺"

- [x] naturally ochaco and mina are all "fake bestie wtf are u talking about"

- [x] yn is laughing awkwardly and is just,,, "oh nothing 😳😳"

- [x] (nobody believes them)

- [x] then they ask about jirou but she has to give false info

- [x] except for her gender its fine if she says that

- [x] she hops over to the squad

- [x] panicking

- [x] "guys wtf i think i just committed a crime"

- [x] "nono youre fine what happened"

- [x] "i made a fake identity so the person who contacted me wouldnt know it was me"

- [x] "do they even know you???"

- [x] "YES they said they really liked our music and im PANICKING"

- [x] "okok calm down its not illegal or anything"

- [x] "i think"

- [x] "YOU T H I N K ? "

- [x] "yeah sorry :// but like you did this to yourself lmaooo"

- [x] jirou awkwardly hops back to yn

- [x] "yeah i think that band is pretty cool too im actually friends with some of them"

- [x] i mean its not false

- [x] ":ooo omg rlly?????? theyre so cool aaa 🥺🥺 maybe we can meet one day at one of their concerts 👉👈 jkjk...... unless 😳"

- [x] little did they know

- [x] LMAOO jk

- [x] kinda

- [ ] they end up talking for hoursss and mina and ochaco ask one day if they wanna hang out

- [ ] theyre all "hell yesss 🥴 where we goin??"

- [ ] a bar. they go to a fucking bar. (btw its to celebrate minas new job thingyyy)

- [ ] drink responsible kiddosss

- [ ] nyways afterwards she ends up talking to jirou bout how shes super nice and would love to be friends with her more

- [ ] jirou has gay panic tm

- [ ] like actually theyre rlly cute fuck

- [ ] yn asks if they can call since theyve never heard her voice or seen her

- [ ] jirous all ".....theyre drunk they wont recognize my voice"

- [ ] also shes rlly groggy since its TWO IN THE DAMN MORNING

- [ ] jirou calls her and yn asks if she wants to meet someday bby doesnt understand okay

- [ ] jirou panics and asks if they can get to know each other more first

- [ ] yn is hurt but understands and agrees

- [ ] yn asks to play 20 questions

- [ ] jirou asks if theyre a preteen jokingly

- [ ] yn whines and says its either that or a drinking game

- [ ] not wanting yn to drink anymore, she sighs and agrees

- [ ] she ends up finding out:

1. yn has a cat

2.

3. thats it, yn passed out

- [ ] jirou fell asleep on call later nd they didnt hang up until jirou woke up later and realized that awake yn would recognize her

- [ ] she quickly hung up and then sent them a good morning text

- [ ] bitches be playin

- [ ] but yn doesnt mind theyre a gay, dumb clown

- [ ] yn asks what minas job was since they never found out- god their dumb

- [ ] mina says its the typical teaching thing but its for ome of yns favorite bands

- [ ] "ooh, who are they?"

- [ ] "they said their name was blackbear! pretty sure youve talked about them some times before"

- [ ] "omygod mina you dont understnad if you could somehow find a way for me to find them i would literally marry u"

- [ ] "please dont. but ill try boo dw"

- [ ] she ends up doing it

- [ ] but inbetween then they end up getting rlly close like numerous calls and texts and learning more about each other until they realize they like her

- [ ] yn is super happy all "bro u guys are so awesome"

- [ ] bby girl is vibrating.

- [ ] LMAOO YOU WANNA KNOW JOWNTHEY FIND OUT

- [ ] THEY AND JIROU END UP BECOMING RLLY CLOSE LIKE THEY FRIENDSSSS

- [ ] AND SHE ASKS FOR THEIR NUMBER

- [ ] THEIR STILL JITTERY BTW SO THEYRE LIKE WOAH RLLY???? ID LOVE TO BRO

- [ ] AND JIROU PUTS HER NUMBER IN YNS PHONE AND SEES THE NAME "nd strikes" COME UP ND SHES LIKE "HUH MUST BE A GLITCH"

- [ ] BUT YNS ALL

- [ ] "HAHA SOMEONE NAMED "BBY" CAME UP WHEN I TYPED IN MY NUMBER I WONDER WHO THAT IS"

- [ ] "MAYBE I TYPED IT WRONG" CAUSE BBY IS DUMB

- [ ] MEANWHILE JIROU IS PANICKED CAUSE "HOLY FUCKING SHIT THEYRE BBY"

- [ ] SO SHE HANDS THEM THIER PHONE BACK AWKWARDLY AND YN SEES THEIR OLD MESSAGES AND PANICKS

- [ ] "HOLD UP IS STARS JIROU????? HAHHA NO IM BLIND AN D DUMB SURELY NOT"

- [ ] SO THEYRE LIKE "DID U EVER TELL ANYONE UR NAME IS STARS"

- [ ] AND JIROU JUST SIGHS AND IS CLEARLY IN PAIN AND IS JUST "YEAH THATS ME"

- [ ] ALL YN DOES IS LAUGH AND GO "YO THATS KINDA GAY"

- [ ] JIROU IS PAINED

- [ ] LIKE SHE THINKS THEIR GONNA HATE HER BUT????? NO??????????? SHES CONFUSED LMAOO

- [ ] yn blinks and realizes she should probably confess or smth

- [ ] "uhm, jirou?"

- [ ] "yeah whats up?"

- [ ] "aCTUALLY NVM ILL TELL YOU LATER-"

- [ ] later in a call they say it

- [ ] jirou is rlly smart and all but her first thought was "its cause of who i am. this happened immediately after."

- [ ] some part of her is screaming that its feelings and that she likes them back but she ignores it.

- [ ] like this has to be bad right???

- [ ] nyways jirou ghosts her like a clown and rants to the band b-wordssss gc

- [ ] yn cries to the babiest of the babies 🥺🥺🥺 gc

- [ ] yn asks if she just doesnt care about them now that shes seen them

- [ ] jirou realizes "wait fuck maybe im wrong"

- [ ] spoiler alert: she is

- [ ] she sort of goes "i didnt rlly think that you actually liked me actually

- [ ] yn starts crying

- [ ] (this is over call btw)

- [ ] "why tf wouldnt i?!"

- [ ] "bc you confessed right after you knew who i was"

- [ ] "istfg so our conversations just dont matter ig"

- [ ] jirou is confused

- [ ] like??? she gets that theyre mad but she does understand why so much

- [ ] "listen i just need to know if you like me back or not please. before i start crying again."

- [ ] she decided to not comment on how they were already crying

- [ ] "yes i like you okay"

- [ ] "do you actually?"

- [ ] "yes. istag that i actually like you and im not shitting u. if you want ill go there rn"

- [ ] ".....yes pls"

- [ ] "i need your address though"

- [ ] "oh yeah– its *address*"

- [ ] jirou arrives all nervous and shit

i didn't have anything planned out after that, but it was probably gonna be a kiss scene or something idk

[fart-gate]

SG1

Season 1 episode 10

"THORS HAMMER"

Notes by me

- daniels making a presentation wheres my popcorn

- the goaulds did NOT make the Stargate? Interesting

- NORSE GODS YESSSS

- thor!!! Are we about to see chris Hemsworth

- The planet is called Samaria

- Daniel made a little box that contains human history and stuff just like the broadcasts we send out to space. I wonder.....if. If it has. A history of music. Is never gonna give you up in that box

- "time to go to work" IMAGINE this is your job. Go to other planets and fight aliens. Absolutely Bonkers. I'm jealous

- the big hammer is making a noise and I feel like thats not good!

- JACK JUMPING INTO THE BEAM TO SAVE TEALC ❤❤❤❤

- daniels voice when he says "I think theyre dead" 😭

- this leader lady seems nice enough

- "midgard" I only remember this is earth bc of Thor(2011) when thor shows Jane the Universe Tree

- Leader Lady has a giant sword 👀

- tealc and Jack are in Trouble and no one is surprised

- "junior" is this the official name for his pet worm!?!?! I was hoping they would name it!!!

- ok you checked on junior hes fine. Now please put him away

- oh god this thor looks so STUPID. he looks like the thor from the 70s lmfao

- oh its a hologram

- if only the host can leave then tealc is stuck there

- tealc wanting Jack to leave but Jack not abandoning his boy ❤😩

- "NO!!" Daniel I swear to god you gotta CHILL

- when she shows them her scar and they jump a mile and grab their guns lol guys calm doowwnnn

- still holding out hope for sha're 🤞😞

- theres a man eating creature in the cave with Jack and tealc

- better not be Gollum I dont think I can take 20 minutes of Jack failing at guessing riddles

- oh my god why does NOBODY ever believe them when they say tealc is nice??? Like is he the only jaffa ever in the history of jaffa to defy the goauld? Its that unbelievable that one would leave?

- yIKES THAT THING IS UGLY and its clearly a guy in a costume but good lord what cool makeup

- writers: *offers hope for sha're and skaara* you are safe now my child

Me: I owe you my life

- Gollum is creeping in the shadows, getting ready to strike

- sad back story for magic lady 😢

- okay she called the worm "he" a minute ago and now she just called it "she" and I am already declaring that the goauld are nonbinary It Is Law

- HERE COMES GOLLUM!!! QUICK JACK THINK OF A RIDDLE

- omg it speaks??? IT SOUNDS LIKE JAMES EARL JONES LMFAO

- his eyes glowed!!!! #worm

- his name is Unas and he was the first host? Ever?

- "it is a myth" clearly youre wrong

- Daniel dreams about sha're and still feels connected to her

I'm weeping

- Gollum lives here he comes again!!

- Daniel is SO mad at Sam for doubting magic lady

- this Darth vader voice is killing me. Dont choke on your aspirations director

- aahhhahaha go ahead Daniel say I told you so, I can tell you want to

- is she actually talking to the thunder?? Is it talking back

- again Jack risks his life by saving tealc 👑👑💖💖

- "fear is the greatest enemy"

- magic lady opened the door by basically saying open sesame thats it im switching to norse religion shes on to somethin

- TEALC SELF SACRIFICE

- Jack saved him again bros 4 life

- rip Gollum/Darth Vader

- Daniel......come on man

- FOR TEALC!!!

- "youre a part of this family now"

- hes making Daniel do it?

- daniel destroying the hammer even tho he knows it's the only thing they have that could possibly save sha're 😭 he did it for his new bestie💖 Friends Forever

- "thank you Daniel jackson" akdjsjsn

- daniel has alot of different feelings attacking him in this series so far but we arent gonna get into that

- a rock as a gift! The symbol looks like the mark that gandalf put on bilbos door

- daniels We Come In Peace box better start playing Toxic by Brittany Spears when you open it or I'm sueing

- i have to say I love the fact that Daniel is always the one that dials the gate. Like thats his job. No one else does it. He dials the gate, tells people they come in peace, and collects his paycheck

~

Whump under the cut

Tealc whump: painful beam of light transports him, noises, unconscious, electrocuted by another beam, fought, self sacrifice

Jack Oniell whump: unconcious, fought , thrown

🎶 listening to Thunder by Imagine Dragons 🎶 bc thor

[comicteaparty]

August 24th, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on August 24th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on Tangled River by snowshadow.

Featured Comment:

Chat:

RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Tangled River by snowshadow~! (https://tapas.io/series/Tangled-River) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~!

With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

mathtans

I'm going to go with the scene just before Tanya walked into the council chamber. Basically telling her friends to vamoose, and the guy was like "yup, don't tell me twice" and Licorice gave attitude but left... felt very true to character, and like a turning point, and I think I was right about that.

RebelVampire

i found it really funny how licorice gave her attitude. until tanya told her what she was going to do and then was like nvm you are crazy bye

although man i feel like there is some really intense generational divide. which makes sense for the situation. but at the same time im really curious why they felt it was so dire they keep it to themselves that terra nova crashed

mathtans

Yeah... I feel a little awkward about that, actually. Because I'm older, and a teacher to boot, I have this tendency to shake my head a lot at the beta kids, because of some of the things they do. I am not necessarily the audience for this comic.

I feel like there may be a bunch of reasons, anything from it meaning they're not getting help, it's orbit has been decaying because it was affected by the rest of the tech stuff, to the exact opposite. It might be working and change the balance of power everywhere. Not something you'd normally tell people.

I guess what I'm saying is, I find myself on the side of the "interfering" adults a lot of the time.

RebelVampire

thats fair. i mean i dont disagree with them. albeit i tend to try and see both sides. cause i mean for sure the betas are kids and dumb. but such is the nature of kids. but i can understand their frustration. especially licorice cause i totally agree that in their situation its way more practical to learn survival skills than it is to learn history and such. not to denounce the importance of history. just being able to study history seems more like a luxury. but regardless i do think the comic means for you to see the adult side too and not just empathize with the kids.

mathtans

Yeah, I do have to give massive, MASSIVE props to the author for the realism there. They definitely feel like real kids with real, believable issues. Just, geez, the way they deal with authority... but that's my personal issue. It's good that you can approach it from both sides.

(But, y'know Tanya, if you HAD listened in geography class, like you yourself said... okay, okay...)

RebelVampire

haha tanya is admittedly kind of dumb. but im gonna give her some slack if only because her upbringing clearly was lacking. like part of me wtfs the adults' ability to parent because theyre like "ah yeah this woman here is depressed and looks barely capable of caring for her child. i could do something but nah, she can raise tanya probably."(edited)

mathtans

Licorice is actually a peculiar character. I took something of a disliking to her from the start. Just with the way she seemed to be "out for herself" more than caring about her friends. I've sort of warmed up, but I think it's a bit at the expense of Tanya, because of how she actually isn't as observant as she wants to think.

Yeah, Tanya needs slack because of the mom depression issue. I wonder if she's not prone to the same sort of symptoms down the road, or maybe there's already hints.

When you're basically taking care of your parent for years, you probably do think you can just trek out into the wilderness. Couple that with the fact that you want to STAY with the parent you've been caring for, and I can see why Tanya pulled the stunt she did with the medication. Still kind of a low blow though. I'm glad she told in the end.

RebelVampire

haha another moment where i questioned the parenting. like i know the alpha made her a promise, but this is one of those moments where if he broke the promise i dont think too many ppl would consider it bad parenting at least. cause tanya is clearly the most useless member on the team and putting everyone at risk, just like they thought she would. but at the end her motivations and actions do all make sense

also

i definitely do have mixed feelings about licorice. cause she is very selfish and tbh i think shes an awful friend. since she only ever seems to get tanya into trouble or gets mad at her for reasons even im still like "what why would you be mad about that child?"

mathtans

Oh, whew, not only me then. I wouldn't say she only ever gets Tanya in trouble (she did help kill that animal thing, and there's times when Tanya gets herself in trouble by bringing up the wrong thing in the first place) but we don't see her really caring on those times when Tanya's trying to do the right thing (like not steal the key, or is worried about where she went).

Licorice seems a good friend to Kobei. Less to Tanya, and yet Tanya's the one worried about their relationship. Like, if you have to worry that much, I'm sorry dear, maybe you need to find a new bestie.

RebelVampire

definitely a new bestie

QUESTION 2. Tanya’s life changes drastically after she witnesses Terra Nova crash to the planet. Having blackmailed her way onto the expedition, she and several Alphas travel out into the wild to find Terra Nova and salvage what they can. Do you think they will manage to find Terra Nova eventually, or will they retreat back to safety? If they do find Terra Nova, what do you think they will find, and how will it affect Tanya and everyone else?

mathtans

I wouldn't mind seeing more Licorice/Kobei, actually. Because obviously Licorice has good qualities, Kobei seems pretty on the ball about stuff.

RebelVampire

yeah i agree. itd be nice to see their relationships delved into more. albeit i also just like kobei in general cause kobei is pretty capable and also decently nice since he had more patience for tanya

mathtans

I don't see them retreating back to town. I might see them getting shanghai-ed back somehow, or Tanya somehow having to turn back, but they seem pretty committed. I have no idea what they'll find there though, I think more information has to come out first, like from her mom's fevered dreams.

Assuming they all survived that assult in recent pages. Wow, that went south quickly.

Kobei's an interesting window into life on the planet before humans arrived. Actually, related, I wonder how much of a language the author created. When Licorice and Kobei talk to each other, we don't really get to understand them, but I'm thinking there's gotta be a dictionary Snowshadow created.

RebelVampire

im certain theres at least a dictionary of commons phrases just to keep everything straight. idk tho. i mean i can definitely see leeway to take liberties.

in regards to the terra nova i dont think theyll retreat, albeit at this point it may be hard for them to even find their way back. although if those alphas did survive that assault maybe they go back while tanya and them go forward.

mathtans

They've still got maps. That should be helpful.

RebelVampire

part of me wants them to find nothing of substance just cause i cant imagine anything abandoned that long is in good shape and crashing into a planet is also not good

mathtans

Btw, I'm not sure you really answered Q1

I feel like there will be losses on this journey. I kind of want there to be something, even if it's just confirmation of some theory they had, to make those losses worthwhile.

Hopefully not more skeletons. That was kinda creepy.

RebelVampire

im gonna hope tanya finds like one book. maybe a cook book. a cook book sounds useful in their situation

and no i didnt answer Q1 O_O youve seen through my schemes

mathtans

Oh! Hey, excellent call, I'd forgotten about the rarity of books. As long as they're not all technical manuals, that could be really useful.

I am very clever about schemes.

RebelVampire

as for Q1...hmmm....i think my fave scene is actually when tanya witnesses the terra nova crash cause i feel like the imagery really kind of expressed how itd feel to suddenly see some giant flaming thing burning up in the atmosphere. cause i felt there was this sense of wonder about it since its kind of juxtaposed to the natural nature

mathtans

Actually, thinking of books made me think of history, and it's real interesting how the comic has this "history repeating itself" vibe, in terms of "trying to help them" [the natives], and it backfiring drastically, because maybe learn about what's going on rather than subjugating. I don't feel like that's "in your face" either, it just kind of works.

That's cool. It was also kind of "her thing", only she saw it.

(Refering to your answer in that last sentence btw)

Related to the history was in how there's that division in the adults between telling their children everything, and having them just learn how to deal with the aftermath as being the important thing.

Lot of thought put into this. Uncomfortable questions.

RebelVampire

yeah. i really liked the thing with the natives. cause i dont think it was portraying it entirely bad since to a degree there werent bad intentions. cause i mean trying to give ppl schools and such isnt inherently awful. but on the otherhand the alpahs definitely seem to have this sense of superiority in regards how they view the natives. like the comic definitely seems to know its a complicated topic

i really wonder if what set the natives off was the technology failing tho. cause the alphas are so reluctant to tell the truth, maybe something else happened

mathtans

Yeah... definitey makes one wonder a bit about the event that messed up all the technology, really kind of putting them on level footing. Licorice's remark about "giving them things that became useless" rang true. Was it a cyclical thing? Is that why they never have advanced to that state, they never get the chance?

I remember Kobei saying something about a thing happening every three generations.

Of course, it could also be something from their ship in orbit that accidentally misfired. shrugs

RebelVampire

yeah and for the natives its hard to say. cause theyre pretty spread out. like kobei's tribe did not look that big at all. and if you have the majority of your labor force working on other practical things like hunting and gathering then you dont really have the labor force to advance tech along.

in retrospect im concerned that in general they were okay with semi colonizing an occupied planet

the alphas i mean

cause they even built that huge roadway

as if it was no big deal to disturb the native population

mathtans

Right, and there seem to be a bunch of them - and everyone seems to have spots, including the animals. (Which must be significant, it was pointed out at some point even, but darned if I can figure that out.) Yeah, you probably don't really have a need for roads either... you're right about the alphas there.

Maybe they didn't have a choice. It was 40 years on a ship, maybe it was this or nothing.

RebelVampire

i wonder what their initial goal was? were they studying the planet?

mathtans

Which is not a very good reason for doing what they did in the way they did it, but.... hm. I kind of doubt that? I mean, it's true everyone on the ship seemed to be a scientist, but why introduce technology to a group you're trying to study? Wouldn't that mess up results?

mathtans

Oh, quick shout out to the start of Book 2. That was a really clever way of reaffirming the characters, looking at them in terms of who a hero might be.

RebelVampire

QUESTION 3. One of the biggest mysteries in the story is what caused all the technology to suddenly cease functioning. Despite the numerous scientists around, there are only really theories. What do you think caused the technology to fail? Was it natural phenomenon, divine intervention, direct sabotage, or something else?

mathtans

My inclination there is to say it was natural, but induced by the fact that the humans showed up (like a catalyst)

RebelVampire

oh yeah i really liked that moment where she was determining the hero and the villain. it was too true to life about how everyone is the villain or hero of someone's story. and i feel it was a bit meta too for the comic cause even tho tanya is the protagonist, i would not label her the hero persay. which is something i like about this comic. the ppl just are. some are jerks, some are nice. but theyre just ppl first and foremost.

wait gonna tie two questions together. what if what they were doing was studying the planet's magnetic field or something like that? and whatever their experiments did messed stuff up and took out the planet's powergrid?

mathtans

I'm vaguely reminded of the DS9 episode where that one colonist person had put a piece of technology in the woods to prevent the use of all other technology, and Sisko and O'Brien got trapped in that society for a while. I don't think it's necessarily like that (one scientist somehow using tech to screw with all the tech), but I think tech could have caused some electromagnetic interference or... I'm not that smart with tech.

Yeah, something like that, that's good!

But, like, took it out because it spontaneously caused trees to grow over something important.

The foliage on this planet must be impressive, given how they said they had to keep clearing the roads, and how overgrown they've become in less than 20 years.

Also, looking back at your remark about Tanya the protagonist, you're right, she definitely has flaws - some she acknowledges, others she doesn't like being aware of her situation - but she does seem like a good vehicle for the story. (Even though we havent' really seen evidence of the pilot being a real jerk.) Though, at the same time, I guess we know Tanya survives, if this is sort of being described in retrospect? Or is it?

RebelVampire

its definitely written in past tense. its just hard to say from which point. like is it after everything is done and she's safe at home with blef and a coffee. or is she writing soon after things happened? like each night adds a bit to the story but its in past tense cause it already happened. so i still feel tense about tanya's fate cause its hard to gauge her position she's writing. maybe shes trapped on terra nova on a cliff and is dying and is like "welp here are my last thoughts"

mathtans

Oh, totally random aside - did Ep 16 (All That Useless Stuff) load for you on Tapas? It didn't for me, but I just went to the author's personal site.

RebelVampire

no it didnt load for me. i had to do the same to read the page.

mathtans

Yeah, that's a good point. She could be writing it at any point in the future. (I think Blef's gone though... actually, that was something that bothered me at the time, she just went and released him without talking to anybody. Like she knew best, even though I'm not sure she does.) Wow, that would be dark though.

Just a note for SnowShadow to check that page then. ^^

RebelVampire

the blef thing broke my heart. but its cause i also thought blef looks like a baby. hes probably gonna get eaten in like 20 seconds

mathtans

Would Blef still be accepted back into a community after having been with humans? Some animals wouldn't be (at least here on Earth).

You're so dark tonight! Or I'm just not as cynical as usual.

Related to narration, the caption boxes are usually placed well, I find. Any thoughts about the art or art style? I have some thoughts.

RebelVampire

my thoughts are that its well done but it also reminds me of like comics from the 60s and 70s. cause a lot of the not mainstream stuff had that style, particularly one shot romance comics. not that that its a bad thing that its like that. just very unique and atypical for whats popular in webcomics atm

mathtans

Okay (I don't know the historical context myself), but I do find it rather unique. Realistic, in some sense, in terms of portrayal of facial features and the like. Also, WOW, I know I'm very basic in terms of what I do, but I tend to avoid hands... sometimes I'll look at a panel and think, if I were doing that, I'd totally have avoided putting the hand on the heart or the face there, but this person went for it, and did it well. Kudos.

Sometimes I'll wonder about the choice of a pose, but I never really get the sense that there's "cheating" to hide things the artist doesn't want to draw.

Of course, as an amateur, what do I know.

There's also the detail in the forest and things that I'd have blurred out or outlined.

RebelVampire

yeah i agree theres definitely not the sense of trying to hide flaws. but to be honest with this sort of art style ive always found the flaws add more character. cause back to me thinking the comic reminds me of comics of the 60s and 70s, the thing i remember most about those comics is they were quirky and things just werent usually perfect. like most of the comics i read the people were really flawed, so the fact there were artistic mistakes kind of fit that message of nobody is perfect. so i get that same impressiong from tangled river. that the fact there are quirks in the art just suits the fact these are not perfect ppl.

you remind me that one thing i really appreciate about the comic is the background details

there are a lot of parts where im like "yeah most ppl wouldve given up on that amount of detail"

mathtans

Characters could appear more "quirky" at times, you mean, when there's flaws?

RebelVampire

yes. cause i definitely notice sometimes when the pose is a bit off for the anatomy XD but it comes off as more quirky than it does flaw

which is kind of the ideal place you wanna be imo

mathtans

Gotcha.

RebelVampire

QUESTION 4. Due to the stress of the situation and generational gap, kids like Tanya find themselves lacking in a lot of knowledge about their parents’ past. The parents seem reluctant to talk about Tanya’s father, their relationships with the natives of the planet, the years they spent on the ship, etc. Which item from the past would you be most interested in learning about? Do you have any theories about one of these past taboo subjects? Why do you think the Alphas are so reluctant to share?

mathtans

Tanya's father, yeah, that's a whole question itself almost. How does she compare to the others agewise again?

I remember there was that one scene where they was saying there were 23 of them, and she was wondering about a boyfriend. (Weird to me how that particular thread was kinda dropped... related, weird that the parents wouldn't let them be with the natives, when there's obviously a gender imbalance, unless they figure some of the kids are LGBT.)

I wonder if the whole "Protocol 9" or whatever it was called (I'm bad with names) came about due to something related to Tanya's dad.

RebelVampire

oh i never considered that. that the one protocol that got licorice all pissy had something to do with tanya's dad.

honestly dont know the age relations tho. im kind of vague on their ages in general

outside of "not adults"

mathtans

I just randomly thought of it now while wondering about him.

RebelVampire

albeit we know tanya is the oldest of all the betas

mathtans

Yeah. It's not that integral to the story. She is the oldest though? Okay, I thought so, but wasn't sure if I misremembered.

If so, she could be the reason some of the protocols went into place.

And why some of the Alphas are reluctant to talk. They don't want to stigmatize.

(Totally random theories!)

Of course, the Alphas might also not want to share because, if the kids knew, they wouldn't be able to respect the older generation any more. Which would probably be an issue, and not just for the Alphas, presuming the kids decided to reject even the sensible advice.

RebelVampire

part of me wonders if the alphas really are kind of holding out for a ship. so they dont want to become too ingrained to life on the planet subconsciously. although id assume they dont want them getting with the natives cause they arent sure whats going on genetically. cause sure tanya seems super fine and healthy. but maybe she can catch a sickness humans cant or something. and so they dont want to chance it because they cant run tests. or maybe they feel tanya's birth is somehow to blame for her mother's condition. theres just a lot of unknown factors so i could see why theyd be not apt for it

speaking of which it occurs to me that tanya doesnt have spots

mathtans

They're definitely holding out for something (otherwise why keep all the useless appliances rather than trade with the nomads), but I have my doubts about a ship, particularly after that speech about how Earth would have had to start constructing a new ship shortly after they left. (Incidentally, there's clever little exposition drops like that when I least expect them.)

Yeah. Noticed that. Maybe the issue of breeding with the natives is that the result of the union doesn't carry a lot of the native genes. They don't want the species to die out.

Particularly not after facilitating them dying out from giving them appliances that no longer work and a bunch of them possibly had forgotten how to hunt by then.

Actually, how long HAVE they been on this world? The Alphas were taking anti-aging pills or something. Could have been a hella long time, right? Maybe that's another reason for secrecy.

RebelVampire

yeah cause we know they were on the ship for 40 years. but not really how long theyve been on the planet itself. and i doubt a roadway like that was constucted overnight. so theyve probably been around a long time.

this makes me wonder how far they are from earth tho

wait....

mathtans

Maybe not overnight, but I suspect a lot faster than we'd be able to do it now.

Waiting.

(Actually, the road had all those towers and everything, electronically activated... had to be pre-fabricated or something, right?)

RebelVampire

so i always assumed the 40 years on the ship were while it was in orbit but some of those years or all of them might have been travel time. so im gonna say maybe theyve been on the planet for twenty-ish years cause they mentioned a ship would take another twenty to get to them?

yeah all the buildings would definitely be pre-fabricated to a degree

or maybe they just have super tech

i really wish i knew how their space travel worked. cause if they found FTL travel that changes the whole time scope about help coming.

mathtans

Gotcha. I guess I assumed the 40 years on the ship were all travel time! Followed by at least 30 years before the tech went poof, and another 15 or so after that. Weird how people assume things.

Honestly, the space travel and that isn't that interesting to me. I'm more interested in Tanya's personal connection, with her father and her apparent interest in drawing which I presume came from something when she was young.

To each our own, of course; I've already said that as a teacher, who shakes his head at some of the (very believable) teenagey actions, I may not be the target audience.

Now that they're in a new city, we'll probably get a better sense of what's become of the world in the time they've been away. That may help with timelines.

Actually, the skeletons - how long does it take for people to, uh, decompose, wow, things I didn't really want to ask, hum.

RebelVampire

i only care about the space travel in this case for wrapping my mind around the timeline. but to be fair the fact we dont know makes me feel a stronger connection to tanya and the betas. cause were kind of in their same position where we wanna know stuff but they dont wanna give up the goods and wanna be all secretive about it.

not that long

which is vague but i remember it was quick

cause i looked it up once

mathtans

That's a good point. Not being in the loop helps empathize with Tanya that way.

Oh, okay then.

Hmmm, any final thoughts? It's kind of nice that Earth has worked out some of its differences, what with there being different nationalities represented on this mission. And seems a universal translator was not an item that ever got invented.

The worldbuilding was well done in general.

RebelVampire

only a year and thats if the body is buried. in the open air it happens faster

thanks google

mathtans

Heh. I wonder if they ever had gravesites after landing.

RebelVampire

my final thoughts are that while i found the comic hard to get into, it was overall a really unique and good setup cause few sci-fi these days focus on nature stuff when it comes to space stuff

mathtans

I can agree to that.

RebelVampire

and maybe. youd have to get gravesites eventually O_O

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