#// i know i haven't posted any actual memes in a while and i apologize for that but real life has been too busy for me to do

[conchfritters]

head in my hands tears in my eyes yeah. Yeah in game collei is not what i wanted when i was excited for sumeru! the questionably accurate metaphor that I use for how I view genshin’s writing is like if we had a charcuterie board with meat, cheese and crackers on it. you can pick what you want off it, like all of them stacked or maybe just some meat or maybe just crackers etc. And then they get rid of the meat and cheese but they keep calling it and acting like it’s a full charcuterie board. the only people who are happy now are the people who only wanted the crackers, but they were already happy, because the crackers were still there. the only thing that has been accomplished is that people who liked all the flavors together think this sucks, and people who only wanted the meat or the cheese think this sucks, and people who wanted any combination of two of the options think this sucks. hang on this needs a read more i got carried away

it's taking every character they have and sanding them down into the most trope-friendly version of themself, at the cost of personality details, at the cost of relationships, at the cost of characters around them, at the cost of them feeling connected with the world and consequently of the world feeling more alive, in favor of appealing to ships or found family* or fandom in jokes** (things that, if left alone, develop naturally. in contrast to this weird manufactured fandomization that hoyo pulls that winds up just being bad writing, see charcuterie board metaphor) *particularly the "and these are the parents and these are the kids" or "siblings (but without any particular details or focus on either as an individual and how that effects a sibling dynamic)" type of found family. the very structured nuclear family kind **amber has a meta joke in her tcg dialogue. Fun fact that i hate.

so kaeya winds up a Found Family Brother (and also exemplifies their other running trend of linking characters to 5-stars. interesting advertising choice that i don't like) who Teases People (but only in a nice silly way! don't read his character story 2) and also is Sad (but only in a nice, easy on the details way. don't think about the whole diluc and kaeya's fight, which is the second attempted murder involving kaeya that hoyo refuses to elaborate on, or the whole khaenri'ah conflict thing)

and then you end up with things like collei's about kaeya line saying that she's sooo shy and nervous that he's gonna tease her. and because interpersonal relationships mean nothing here, collei's suddenly best friends with mondstadt as a whole. the simulanka event retconned has her greeting klee and klee saying it's been ages (they never met?) she asks how jean is despite not talking to jean once except to lie to get into the library. her reuniting with amber is done off-screen, their dynamic is simplified into Shy Cheerful Collei wants to be Not Shy Cheerful Amber (except amber can't be TOO not shy. all that being headstrong and blunt in 1.0 and the webcomic got taken away from her when she became Half Of a Ship with her designated 5-star). suddenly the whole "mondstadt was a last ditch effort to not die" and the "collei killed two people in cold blood" and the "she was willing to lie her way through for survival" bits are gone. collei's new conflict is that she's shy. she's shy and struggling in school and so found family daughter, by the way. is this shyness her struggling to adjust to living among people after a whole childhood as a human experiment on the run? never going to come up! that's a big scary plotline for a character here to slot into found family archetypes. and of course to remind you of eula's heart of gold, because in inheriting amber's new flanderized personality she also had to inherit the torch of standing next to eula and going hey guys don't forget to pull our 5 stars (something that also never does any favors to the 5-stars, who also have their personalities watered down, but i digress)

and again with my charcuterie board metaphor because i'm trying to keep this tangent from being Too incoherent. kaeya and diluc/klee interacting would be perfectly fine and even good If it wasn't the Only interaction they were allowed to have (except klee who is the only mondstadt character who exists in hoyo's eyes). when characters exist OUTSIDE of each other it makes them MORE interesting together. kaeya's lines about missing childhood during the 1.6 event and the way he takes care of klee are super interesting! the one scene of him in the simulanka event where he's telling those guys off for arguing in front of klee was a highlight of the event! but unfortunately their refusal to actually use their characters made it the only highlight of an hours long event with a full cast, and rather than make me like kaeya as klee's babysitter more, it just made me want to see more of kaeya on his own. "kaeya never saw himself as a child" is such a good interpretation i wish someone at hoyoverse would come to it to

(honorary mention to collei's one "she's like a wilted mushroom!" "collei that's so morbid?" bit, which was the only collei scene i liked. not a great sign either. i wish she stayed at least a little mean)

so you could have jean and kaeya or jean and amber or jean and diluc or jean at all developed. but jean isn't half of a ship (not with an event exclusive 5 star anyway) or found family, nor is she the lucky winner of whatever random number generator they use to decide who shows up in events (why was kokomi there when she had no interaction or chemistry with any other character involved? Because she may as well be)

they'll have the hidden strife letters which were good. they had all of the little 1.x lines and interactions that were subtle that came together to flesh things out ex. jean and diluc's pet turtle conversation, kaeya's whole pirate thing, his appearance in venti's story quest, everyone during the first summer event honestly (i miss jean so bad). and then they'll drop another 3-4 hour long festival/fairy tale/hexenzirkel/We Wanna Be 1.6 So Bad event with a cast that never makes it past "hi nice to meet you" where nothing happens and you get mediocre furniture. and then they'll throw in kaeya's whole scene in the theater in his hangout and show that they still can write characters. and then they'll drop him in sumeru to go Yeah i'm from khaenri'ah. Later! and leave

kaeya and collei's underwhelming in game dynamic are shaking hands with amber being written out of a scene entirely in shadows amidst snowstorms just so she wouldn't be the one to sniff out fakebedo in my head. i'd say we're due for a lisa blunder to finish the starter trio but that would involve them having lisa show up for more than 2 seconds

like i don't expect them to address the stabbing a 12 year old thing, but there are ways that they could have fleshed out kaeya & collei without outright saying that he stabbed a 12 year old. make amber and kaeya contrast, with amber having trusted collei and kaeya having not. collei looks up to and wants to be like amber but she is at the end of the day more like kaeya. i think that they could understand each other in a way and there are so many different ways that could be written. like it's very relevant to Me that kaeya was trying to kill collei in front of amber. he says she arrived just in time for the finale so he either didn't care that she'd shown up or wanted her to. he says he's going to "rip that deceptive mask right back off [collei]" and taunts her by asking what her friends would think of her now. was he trying to teach amber a lesson about trusting a threat to mondstadt? he calls her an entertaining exemplar of justice in the beginning, was he trying to throw her trusting people back in her face? teach her a lesson by it? something that would make his and diluc's relationship more interesting by proxy, because you know who else wears a deceptive mask? you know what other pyro user felt betrayed? and then by continuation there's the "diluc tried to stab kaeya vs. amber flew collei out of there and asked for her reasoning" paralell that makes amber and diluc have an interesting dynamic without having ever interacted. when you build webs like this things flow so much better than sectioning characters off into little groups that they aren't allowed out of

and that makes diluc showing up at the end of the barnabas fight more interesting. it makes amber being called a true child of freedom BY VENTI during the archon quest more interesting. the fan translation of the last webtoon chapters (because hoyo fucking hates that webtoon so bad i guess) has amber respond to barnabas saying that humans are weak with "but we are still alive by our own strength", and saying that collei can deny the glory of barbatos but she'll show her the beauty of mondstadt. kaeya and his whole khaenri'ah thing. there is so much meat there to chew on.

but the problem with a lot of the in game writing (but not all of it because hoyo jumps from highs to lows like its a sport to them) is that it isn't enough for them to take away a characters fangs. they leave them all with gums. it isn't enough for kaeya's questionable methods to suddenly disappear, they've gotta throw his passive aggressive jabs at diluc out, they've gotta throw his actual teasing out, they've gotta throw it all.

it wasn't enough that amber was already a nice character. she was described first and foremost as passionate, and they wanted her cheerful instead. so you don't get her being suspicious of anyone, or her being more dry (in terms of tone, not writing quality) like in razor's story quest (with her 'don't do anything stupid', her accusing paimon of getting into weird mushrooms, etc.). now it's just Baron Bunny Good Hunter My Friend Eula Good Hunter Sticky Honey Roast from Good Hunter Baron Bunny Heehee I'm so glad we met! Ignore my line about wanting to see how far the rabbit hole goes with you i'm only here for Good Hunter. hoyo's characters were made of their details and those details are gone

her defining character conflict is gone because suddenly her grandpa is eula's mentor. because she needs to be linked to a 5-star inextricably. sure, eula could've been the last one looking for her grandpa without having ever met him just because it means something to amber, something that would've actually shown her heart of gold rather than having amber or collei tell us about it, and also would've added a layer to their dynamic. but that would've left it as a conflict with amber's character. and there cannot be a character outside of the hoyoverse assigned Duo

she was there for the entirety of razor's story quest and invites him to stay in the city at the end, but when they needed a knight of favonious to give razor a gift during weinlessefest...sucrose and noelle. and amber's only appearance was an optional one where she was of course very mellow, and flustered over eula paying for her meal.

i mentioned her being written out of a scene in shadows amidst snowstorms. during the beginning joel (the kid) is left with amber, running off to i think climb a tree. the traveler leaves to fuck around with albedo. the cave scene. eula shows up to confront albedo about leading joel into the ice wastes. there is no mention of amber having passed joel off to anyone, there is no mention of joel having wandered off and amber somehow not caring, there is no amber noticing something's up with evilbedo and telling eula about it (again: something that would actually make them interact). amber's next appearance is showing up with bennett in the next quest. there is no mention of having been with joel. she continues not noticing anything wrong despite the favonious warbow description claiming outriders are trained to sense and notice danger. this is not mentioned as a "woah, fakebedo sure was a good fake!" either. they talk about how often her and eula eat at good hunter together. eula protects her during the avalanche and makes the group stop so she can rest. she goes "wow that's crazy" after the reveal. they damsel in distressed her ass.

of her few and far between, mostly optional windblume rerun appearances she is apart from eula for one brief one right at the beginning. her reunion with collei which is a handful of lines, unless the actual reunion was off-screen i cannot remember. collei spends the entire event bonding over being sooo shy with sucrose (who has a personality and lore all her own that would make for a great hangout so i'm not sure why hoyo only has her slot into the weirdest places) and then collei is redirected into being another eula hanger-on when she isn't the found family daughter of the sumeru crew. I also don't like what they did with collei & cyno's dynamic outside of their voicelines about each other/character stories. i also think they mangled cyno's personality badly. thoughts for a different post though

outside of those she has an appearance in the cat event which was. fine*. she has dialogue during the one tcg event (both optional. by the by.) which the wiki doesn't have but i DO (because i am NORMAL about that character) and it's only 5 lines but it's fine. she has a brief appearance in a picture event where she says she's SOOO embarassed about how she was suspicious of you at the beginning and a brief appearance in the food event where she's eating dinner in liyue with eula and talks about how she invited eula over for her grandpa's cooking all the time. there are three (i counted) lines where she mentions her and her grandpa without eula though which is the closest we get to a follow-up on anything about her. she also says it's like they're eating at good hunter. the fun thing about reducing a character to one trait is it has a way of making you dislike that trait. That restaurant is a plague to me. *another good hunter mention + sticky honey roast + they apparently forgot amber is canonically extremely bad at cooking because paimon celebrates amber saying she's gonna personally cook them sticky honey roast. but they actually reference the fact that she's employed as a scout and eula isn't there

and it's so annoying to see. because her personality and the personality that eula actually does have, in her voicelines, not that hoyo likes to show it either, would've made for a significantly better dynamic anyway. and amber being allowed to exist outside of that dynamic would have made it better anyway. and eula actually being worked into the mondstadt cast rather than just standing there while amber and her mini-me tell you about her heart of gold would have made for a better character. and an improvement to the character dynamic they are trying to force.

but you don't get amber anymore. you get half of a ship. you don't get kaeya, you get found family brother. you don't get collei, you get shy girl found family. because hoyoverse can let these characters exist outside of their boxes and everything will be better for it. but why do that when you can have kokomi show up in simulanka for no reason other than spitting in the face of the people holding out hope that her whole orobashi thing will be explained. isn't kaeya such a silly teasing brother. have some mediocre furniture Seriously if hoyo's gonna fuck my favorites over can i get better furniture out of it i'm sick of paper mache

at the end of the day. 1. in kaeya's inner dialogue during his whole stabbing a 12 year old thing he refers to amber as "our intuitive rabbit" and that is such an endearing thing to say when you are about to murder a 12 year old in front of said intuitive rabbit. he needs a level of therapy that teyvat hasn't invented yet. peak character and 2. one of amber's voicelines has her saying that she joined the knights because of her grandpa (also a point for the "She Could've Been A Diluc Paralell") and that she stayed because of jean. What do you mean stayed because of jean. Why is that never elaborated on.

last post complaining about genshin's writing for the month Anyway i think blorbofication happening in canon is the best way i could describe a lot of the problems i have with it ex. kaeya's relationship with diluc (or klee) is almost the only focus we get on him now, other than his brief appearance in the sumeru archon quest which was just saying his backstory basically with very little actual reaction or characterization on his part OR dainsleif's (also a problem i have in the albedo homunculus reveal in shadows amidst snowstorms). i haven't done his hangout because i. don't care enough to sit through an hour for each route with the quality of content hoyoverse puts out but looking at the ending options i feel like. they missed the opportunity to expand on things we already had for kaeya in favor of Oh he babysits klee! Oh albedo is here! Spend money to pull albedo!Venti cameo! What do you mean him and amber have a complicated dynamic. What do you mean he's apparently beloved by the elderly of mondstadt and the one who wraps up all the incidents there. What do you mean bennett trusts him as an omniscient big brother according to his official cn character profile. We made him talk to diluc again isn't that enough kaeya for you? and it sucks because kaeya feels like a rubik's cube with an onion's layers and like one of their best character personalities in content where he's actually kaeya and not just diluc's brother who is sad and also pretty! we never see anything about his relationship with jean, who he is the Most Trusted Aide of, or mondstadt at large! because every day we get closer to fanon kaeya being canon kaeya and it's just. You can have canon kaeya and fanon kaeya will follow but if fanon kaeya is at the forefront you're just immediately losing all that depth and it's going nowhere

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[ linagram season 3 albums info ]

this post includes season 3 album covers, original song titles, s3 voice drama titles, cover songs, album, character and song trailer voicelines and song previews! so yeah, very long post! but i feel like it's probably better to have everything in one place..

i've planned to go with a completely original concept for season 3 album covers but.. drawing all that would take too long.. and drawing the designs alone was already too much work for me, so i went with season 1-like album covers bc i actually haven't made these before! i've still tried to make them more. "linacore" and instead of a black background, i tried to make them more colorful. i think they came out too colorful.. apologies if they look too eyestrain-y..

(also i really tried to make them more hd but my editing apps kept ruining the quality. so sorry.. maybe that will make analyzing them more interesting in some way..)

[ TRACK LIST ]

Miyagawa Akio.

01. [ Original song ] Experiment: Failed

02. [ Cover song ] Mosquito (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Unfriendly Hater (Original by Meddmia)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] All-knowing All-agony

05. [ Voice drama ] The Right-Hand Man's Betrayal

[ Creator's comments ]

IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO COME UP WITH A TITLE FOR HIS SONG I'VE LITERALLY TRIED EVERYTHING BUT ALL OF THEM SOUNDED TOO BORING.. i really wanted to have more fun with the song titles this time, so hopefully this one sounds cool.. okay, so his covers! literally all of them are about his relationship with arata, haha. COME ON UNFRIENDLY HATER IS LITERALLY THEM BEFORE THEY STARTED DATING. (or. "dating" as akio likes to say) mosquito is a much more angsty AND realistic take on their relationship ("in any case, in any case, you're the only one getting high", "the more we pursue one another, the more unsavory you become", "i'll die if i stop sucking from you, 'cause i'm a mosquito", "i wonder why it was so beautiful despite being so warped"). meanwhile akaa is like, the saddest one out of them all since in this case it's basically akio begging arata to stay with him, continue to praise him and call him a genius no matter what. i wish i could've given him something that could tell more about his relationship with chise too..

Hanasaki Aimi.

01. [ Original song ] Blooming Connection

02. [ Cover song ] Starlight Girl (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] XxX Cat (Original by Kikuo)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] Deep Cover

05. [ Voice drama ] The End of All Friendships

[ Creator's comments ]

i think aimi's mv theme will be obvious, hehe. you won't have to think much about flower language and stuff like that tho, so don't worry. i really don't think i have to explain why i gave xxx cat to her, like. i think it's obvious jdkslsls (i also thought of maybe giving her bacterial contamination, but i changed my mind since even though the lyrics sound a lot like her, the aesthetic is.. not very aimicore). starlight girl was mostly given to her bc i thought it'd sound cute, but some lyrics do remind me of her and her relationship with her victim ("whispering that sweet lie, you disappeared", "but i still haven't been able to fill up this hole you left inside me"). was deep cover assigned to her only bc of the aimi (kotoko's va) pun?.. maybe. but no, no, i really do have a deeper reason for that! but for now, all i can say is. her relationship with miki and all other prisoners at the moment.

Ishizu Shun.

01. [ Original song ] ???

02. [ Cover song ] Zombies (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Aishiteitanoni (Original by MARETU)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] MeMe

05. [ Voice drama ] Loving Too Much, Remembering Too Little

[ Creator's comments ]

i honestly gave up while trying to think of a title for his song, so i think "???" perfectly describes shun's character and how tired i felt. if you need to know how it's supposed to be pronounced, i imagine it being something like "uhh..", showing how shun is confused 24/7. AND FINALLY HE'S OFFICIALLY GETTING A ZOMBIES COVER.. the reason why i went with zombies is bc shun just.. feels like a zombie to me. like the way he talks, how i imagine him moving, his color palette.. and also the imagery of his victims' dead bodies. like aww, he's drinking tea and eating cake while both his "ex-gf" and her new bf are dead <3 how cute.. i think his character trailer voiceline will really show how much the lines like "your body is cold even when we hug", "i love you, half-decomposed isn't bad", etc, fit him.. about aishiteitanoni, I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING, IT'S PERFECT FOR HIM, I SCREAMED WHEN I SAW IT SHOW UP IN MY NOTIFS HSHAHSHSJS. meme is. meme. that's what a guilty verdict does to a guy. and yes, his vd's title is supposed to be a reference to his t1 vd :)

Chiba Naomi.

01. [ Original song ] Like An Adult

02. [ Cover song ] Miraise (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] It's Just Life (Original by nulut)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] Double

05. [ Voice drama ] A Grown Up Child's Tantrum

[ Creator's comments ]

oh naomi.. if only it was easier to come up with song titles for you.. i was giggling while typing her vd's title tho LIKE YES NAOMI EMBRACE THE FACT THAT YOU WERE NEVER ABLE TO TRULY GROW UP!! her miraise cover is really up to interpretation, it can be both about her relationship with her mother and her trying to express her true feelings and make her mother listen, but it also can be about her relationship with tao ("you went before me, didn't you?", "how long do i have to wait? how long do i have to cry?", "i'm singing to the you that will be born after tomorrow") i felt like "it's just life" really fits her and her cover would sound very pretty and it's also just. sad. like naomi really is a smart and talented woman, she could have a bright future, she could have lots of friends, but.. she has way too many issues. and she can't accept that. HER DOUBLE COVER WOULD BE SO GOOD. THE INSTRUMENTAL WOULD MOSTLY BE THE SAME BUT HER VOICE WOULD STILL SOUND SOFT AND REALLY ANNOYED AT THE SAME TIME.. i get chills while thinking about her version of the scene where mikoto calls his mom..

Sanada Kei.

01. [ Original song ] Love=Pain

02. [ Cover song ] Rabbit Hole (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Bad Honey Hunt (Original by Vell)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] This Is How To Be In Love With You

05. [ Voice drama ] Rose-Tinted Misery

[ Creator's comments ]

his song title was originally supposed to be a pun on the theme of his mv, but it sounded kinda meh to me, so i just went with his main philosophy instead sjskslsl. (the reference to that pun is still there on the cover though) also nO I'VE DECIDED THAT RABBIT HOLE IS VERY KEICORE A LONG TIME AGO EVEN BEFORE THAT ANIMATION SIT DOWN I'M POINTING MY GUN AT YOU SIT DOWN!!!! thank you now i didn't just go with rabbit hole bc "haha funny horny song", it actually does fit kei's aesthetic very well and the lyrics sound a lot like him because rabbit hole always sounded very.. childish to me? like yes, it's supposed to sound all silly and playful, but kei's whole thing is that even though he claims he's so cool and mature and gets all the bitches, this guy still feels like he's younger than eiji (who is six years younger than him), unconsciously regresses to cope with whatever life throws at him and rarely takes dark, scary and tragic stuff seriously. it does reveal some stuff about his crime and his relationship with the victims too! ("you want me to repent? what can i say?", "little miss devotion, the exit's over there, oh, so not going home after all?") as for his other covers, BAD HONEY HUNT FITS HIM SO WELL. LOOK AT THE THUMBNAIL. COME ON THAT'S SO HIM. and the lyrics sound a lot like him as well! about him getting tihtbilwy.. that's him taking his rose-colored glasses on again and singing about how he sees his relationship with ruka :')

Yoshioka Eiko.

01. [ Original song ] Miss Grave Robber

02. [ Cover song ] Parasite (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Getcha (Original by Giga and Kira)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] Cat

05. [ Voice drama ] Funeral For The Alive

[ Creator's comments ]

EIKO IS OVER HERE GOING FULL SLAY MODE!!! i originally wanted the title to be smth like "grave robber-chan/san", since i prefer to use jp honorifics in my writing, but i felt like no honorifics would fit the song's vibe, so i went with good old "miss" instead. parasite fits eiko so well.. it describes her relationship with her victim perfectly.. the reason why i gave her cat is. well first of all IT WOULD SOUND REALLY COOL, but also, i actually don't see it as eiko singing about herself, i like to think that she's singing about takeru instead, making fun of him for lying to her and manipulating her ("lie until it gets better, follow the king of the masquerade", "victim and perpetrator, let's keep it simple", "i just wanted to ask, so it's out in the open, i just got a little greedy"). MY BRAIN EXPLODED WHEN I REALIZED HER COVER CAN BE INTERPRETED IN THAT WAY LIKE IMAGINE HER SINGING ABOUT HOW MUCH HE SUCKS WHILE STILL HAVING THE ORIGINAL INSTRUMENTAL. (also considering what he did to her, "let's take a breather" sounds very... sad) about her getting getcha. let's just. let her have her girlboss moment one last time.

Yano Asahi.

01. [ Original song ] Caterpillar's Cries

02. [ Cover song ] Hitojichi Koukan (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Givuṛta (Original by Vell)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] Umbilical

05. [ Voice drama ] The Taste of Abandonment

[ Creator's comments ]

we're getting another insect themed mv!! (though spider isn't really an insect but kei's t2 mv also had butterfly motifs so...) the caterpillar motif won't be that strong in asahi's mv description, but it will be there. i think i should draw him in his t3 mv outfit to show it better.. i think his hitojichi koukan cover would sound very cute and sad and the lyrics describe his relationship with satsuki so well.. ("no matter how much you love me, all i do is get itchy", "i can't drag you along so let's say goodbye", "after all, i want to make you my servant") YES ANOTHER VELL SONG I LOVE VELL'S SONGS OKAY they're so short but so catchy.. i feel like the voice that i imagine asahi to have would fit perfectly, like it'd sound so cute, but so punchable, like this kid goes "noooo, relationships are more important than money!!" and then literally the next lyrics are "money and personal connections make the world go round" 😭😭 but also, to be more serious, the lyrics are very asahicore!! ("naturally i always put myself first", "it's boring that people's desires never end", "in a nutshell i do that because it's funny to me", "that's a trust relationship! if it's not enough, you should buy it") about his umbilical cover... well. first of all, again, it'd sound cute! but also, um. considering the way his biological mom died, i thought that him getting this song would be very. ironic.

Maruyama Yurika.

01. [ Original song ] Secret Ingredient

02. [ Cover song ] Salamander (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Binomi (Original by MARETU)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] I Love You

05. [ Voice drama ] A Killer by Moonlight, A Maid by Daylight

[ Creator's comments ]

her voice drama's title is a sailor moon reference and her original song's title can be seen as a spongebob reference. i cannot take this woman seriously. but i actually like her mv's aesthetic a lot! i should definitely draw her in her t3 mv outfit one day.. (i say that even though i still haven't drawn her as that monster from her t2 mv. so sorry yurikers..) I HAD TO GIVE HER SALAMANDER OKAY!! I HAD TO!! it's literally perfect for one of the hunger prisoners, it's very yurikacore and the lyrics remind me a lot of her relationship with takame and just her personality in general. ("i surrender, i'm already hooked, i can't function without you anymore", "can i get seconds? one more time", "i'm already obsessed, is it doing super great?") love me some toxic spicy ramen yuri <3 binomi came out VERY recently and before that i was thinking of giving her eye by kanaria simply bc of the vibes, but maretu saved me once again 🙏 the hunger theme is so strong.. yurika deserves to cover all the cannibalism songs ever.. (fun fact yurika actually WAS supposed to be a cannibal but then i changed her crime. i think her current crime fits her better but still. we could've had a cannibal prisoner everyone) and again, i went with "i love you" bc 1) her relationship with takame and 2) i think there's something beautiful and horrifying about the concept of yurika feeding takame rats that she sees as a cake while also going "why can't i just do it right", considering the huge power imbalance they had with takame being older and being her boss and giving yurika literally everything she could've asked for and making yurika feel like she owes her in the process..

Kuroki Riku.

01. [ Original song ] Sun Sets, Games End

02. [ Cover song ] Undead Alice (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Shinitagari (Original by Nashimoto-P)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] It's Not My Fault

05. [ Voice drama ] Have a Breakdown, Call It a Show

[ Creator's comments ]

OH RIKU..... and also nope, riku's mv won't exactly have a video game theme, that's shun's thing, but the lyrics will reference them a few times. riku's mv is actually one of my favorites so hopefully you guys like it too.. he's my special little boy he always gets the best mvs.. (/j i don't have any faves sjsklssl but riku definitely always gets my creative juices going) i originally wanted undead alice to be his t2 cover but chimera is just so rikucore and i thought it'd go with his t2 mv really well, so i changed it though i still think that maybe chimera would be better as his t3 cover bc of the guilty verdict vibes chimera has.. so anyway undead alice is literally yueriku ("live by feeding on me, since you can’t go out like you want to", "i'm starting to hate the butterflies in my stomach, so please die before i kill you", "let’s bury this cowardly love here, let’s stop and forget all this, it’s better to hate since it's easier that way" AND BASICALLY THE WHOLE SONG). about shinitagari, i actually was planning to assign it to riku as a cover back when i first came up with him and riku's character even was kinda inspired by it! except shinitagari has a more positive meaning meanwhile riku took "wanna die? go ahead and die then" a bit too literally.. also yeah, he's the one who gets inmf this time. i imagine him making a rock cover of it too.. he surely took his guilty verdict well <3

Himura Reina.

01. [ Original song ] (Un) Forgivable

02. [ Cover song ] Fake Actor (Original by DECO*27)

03. [ Cover song ] Hello Dystopia (Original by Mafumafu)

04. [ MILGRAM Cover song ] Triage

05. [ Voice drama ] Accepting The Innocence (For Now)

[ Creator's comments ]

reina's album cover doesn't really have much to show but i think it actually fits her character a lot. also idk if it's that noticeable, but i tried to make her album cover more glitchy than the others. when it comes to her deco cover, i mostly went with it bc of her name meaning, but some lyrics are very reinacore (+ they remind me a lot of her relationship with her brother)! ("so please, shut up before i feel too embarrassed to speak to you again", "because no matter how many times you fool me with "i'm going to change," it'll just end all over again", "so let’s play the "whose fault is it game," the rules are rather hard, even for the winners") hello dystopia reminds me a lot of her character in general and i also just think she deserves to get at least one cover where she goes absolutely wild. fake actor and triage are just her being all sad but in hello dystopia she can go a little insane!! a little crazy even!!

[ Album Trailer Voicelines ]

Akio: "He continued to try to get the rope off his neck."

Aimi: "I'm just glad he's dead."

Shun: "Do I have to jog your memory, Guard 002-san?"

Naomi: "End my suffering, just like I've ended Tao's."

Kei: "Someone is planning to kill Eiji?"

Eiko: "He told me it wasn't even a big deal."

Asahi: "And after that, something.. changed."

Yurika: "Haha. You got me. Congrats."

Riku: "Come on, I was just.. bullying him a little."

Reina: "That stupid kid was obsessed with "saving" me."

[ Song Trailer Voicelines ]

Akio: "You don't have to be a genius like me to put all these things together."

Aimi: "You see me as a victim. A perfect and fragile victim."

Shun: "Are you implying that we never were a couple?"

Naomi: "Why would I be jealous of that brat?"

Kei: "The truth is kinda lame, honestly."

Eiko: "I will take good care of Shun, Kei and Yurika for you."

Asahi: "What did you just call me, Miki-nee?"

Yurika: "I-it's like.. s-she really.. loved me.."

Riku: "He's just another source of attention to me."

Reina: "I guess you could say this was my plan all along."

[ Song Previews ]

Akio:

"Solve the problem! You know the answer! Good job! I love you, love you, you can do it!

I can't concentrate with those words playing in my head!

Well, whatever, I know I'll get the best grade in loving you anyway

So keep looking at me, keep saying I'm a genius, please praise me once more"

Aimi:

"Come on, accept my gift, tell me you're grateful, tell me how thoughtful I am

Did I do great? Am I a good friend? I know I am, I know I am

"This flower reminds me of you" I'm the sweetest person you've ever met, right?

"Sorry, but I gotta go" Hey, what do you think you're doing?"

Shun:

"It's a crime for me to be in love, so I'll play it safe

No more heartbreaks, no more lying to myself

I'm ready to live a happy loveless life 

So please, just forgive me already!"

Naomi:

"Your looks, your posture, your voice, your face

Everything about you is not mature enough

Don't laugh, don't cry, look them right in the eyes but not for too long

Go on, look at me, be honest with me, don't feel sorry for me, just like an adult would"

Kei:

"My love means nothing, if it doesn't make you cry

I don't want the kind of love that doesn't hurt me

"Play it safe"? Nah, that's not for me

Now can I get praised for being everyone's PERFECT lover?"

Eiko:

"Our love is dead, oh no, let us sing our prayers

Your lies were the only thing that kept me alive

Except I don't see your name on our grave, oh no, don't just leave me like this

Let's get buried next to each other, rotting together doesn't sound so bad"

Asahi:

""Stop, that's enough!" But it will never be enough

Sweet or sour, I don't care, I want everything I could never have

Even if it's rotten, even if it's broken, I just want to have something

Do you understand now? I live like I can die at any moment"

Yurika:

"What do you two think you're doing? Hey, hey, don't you know it's dangerous here?

Well, it's your fault now, shouldn't have taken a walk in the woods when it's this dark

What should we do with you? Should we tie you up? Should we cut off your limbs?

I bet you two taste like fear and betrayal, let me take a bite!"

Riku:

"Let's play until the sun goes down, let's play until we see the sky turn purple

That's what they want us to do anyway

Hey, are you having fun? Aren't you tired? Don't you wanna go home already?

"Nope, I'm just getting started!" Well, let me end everything here"

Reina:

"All of them? So guilty, guilty! 

"You are innocent" Haha, no, I am innocence itself!

This kind of behavior is unforgivable?

Then why did you still forgive me?"

[ Character Trailer Voicelines ]

Akio: "Uh.. Good morning, I guess.. No, it doesn't hurt as much as before, thankfully.. Hey. Why did you.. I mean.. Of course, I'm glad you've finally realized I'm innocent, but.. How could you just.. change your mind like that? What did you see in my video? Did you.. feel bad for me?"

".. Arata. Arata, I don't think he's supposed to- ARATA, WHY IS HE STILL ALIVE?!"

Aimi: "Hello, Miki-chan!~.. Hm? What? I mean, we're friends, so it's only right for me to call you that, right? Ehehe, you're like, my only friend here.. Ah, Akio-kun.. He's good too, I guess. But he's not really struggling anymore, so.. I don't think he will continue to rely on me anymore. I don't think he.. still likes me."

"It's okay.. It's okay, Nii-san couldn't be wrong.. They deserve it. All of them."

Shun: "LEAVE ME ALONE! STOP- DID MY PARENTS SEND YOU TO ME?! I SWEAR, IF YOU EVEN LOOK AT MY... Huh? Where.. am I? Where's Hina?.. And where's Jouhei?.. O-oh, it's you.. No, no, it's okay, I remember now. Even though I really.. don't want to remember."

"Ehehe, I've slept well.. Hey, what do you two want for breakfast? Come on, don't be shy~" 

Naomi: "I'M SORRY! I SAID I'M SORRY! PLEASE, MOM, I WILL DO ANYTHING, JUST DON'T.. Ah. It's you, Miki-san.. Hold on, where's Eiji-san?.. Well, I don't really care. So.. Guilty, huh.." *laughs* "I know I've said I'll be okay with any verdict, but.. How could you change your decision so quickly? Did you just remember how young my victim was?"

"When.. When will I finally be enough for her? Wait, is that.. Ah, whatever."

Kei: "Oh, Miki, it's you. And.. you're Hinode, right? Haha, I'm sure we'll have lots of fun together~.. Hey, is Eiji doing okay? This place doesn't have any doctors, so.. No, no, stop saying I'm kind. I'm just mad that I wasn't the one who has caused him so much pain. It's like someone stole a chance to show him more love from me.. Are you expecting me to thank you for saving me? Haha.. Dear, I know you're just playing with our lives as if we were your toys."

*crying* "Ruka.. I don't know why I did it.. It just.. It hurts so much.. C-can you hug me, please?" 

Eiko: "Takeru.. Takeru, please.. Did I do something wrong- O-oh, it's you, Miki-chan. And.. Woah, this new guy sure is handsome!.. But I still miss Eiji-kun. Hey, he's gonna come back, right? He will be okay, right?.." *in a lower voice* "It was her, right?.. I'll have to make her pay for this."

"Thanks for helping, I guess. Wow, it's like you have a lot of experience with this stuff.. Hey. What do you guys even do?"

Asahi: "A-ah, it's you, Miki-nee.. A-and who are you? Ugh, I just hope that he treats you better than Eiji-nii did.. Oh, I'm doing great! I mean, you forgave me again and all. Um.. I kinda miss Eiji-nii's cooking though. There's no point in trying to steal the guilty guys' food now.. Hm? S-shut up, I'm not fucking scared of them!"

"I'M SORRY! I JUST- I WAS SO AFRAID, I THOUGHT SHE- I THOUGHT SHE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANYMORE! PLEASE, LET ME STAY!"

Yurika: ".. I'm going to kill you. All three of you. And all the prisoners here. I hate you all. I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I HATE YOU SO-.. Oh, it's you. What do you want from me? I know the third trial is starting, you don't have to tell me anything. Just leave already. Stop looking at me like that! If you don't leave, I will do what I promised to do to those two."

"We're finally done.. I won't have to deal with them anymore, I'm so happy.. U-uh, you're not mad at me, right?" 

Riku: ".. What do you want? Ugh, I still feel sick.. I don't want to talk to you. And you, especially.. Hey, do you feel proud of yourself, Miki? Didn't you say that "your forgiveness has its limits"? You're sooooo cool for voting me guilty. That was sooooo unexpected. You may have used that thing on me, but I still remember what you said. And I'm still mad."

"Come on. You knew it was me." *laughs* "Now.. Won't you do all of us a favor and die already?"

Reina: "Well, well, well. I got voted innocent. Again. What a surprise." *sighs* "When will this end, Miki? When will it end? It feels like my own personal hell at this point. And I agree that I should be punished, but.. Not like this. Come on. Would you want to be forgiven for killing your own little brother? If that's so, then you are truly heartless-" 

"Please, leave. I don't want to talk about it. It was my fault. My fault, my fault, my fault, my fault, my f-"

[kiealer]

For the 'be honest' meme: 4, 7, and 12!

the be honest meme. 

4) How do you explain rp to someone in the real world?

I have actually had to do this -- explaining RP to my fiancée was a trip. I explained it as basically crafting a makeshift book together; we take two (or more) characters, and write out a back-and-forth based on an interaction or overall story concept. I'm trying to write out something with the ankian boys funnily enough with her. she doesn't entirely understand yet, but I'm hoping that it makes more sense in practice for her.

7) What’s your opinion on call out posts?

I'm... hmm. I don't really know. I haven't seen one in a long while on this platform in particular. It... depends, I suppose? These can be used for smear campaigns just because someone is hurt over something so minor, but they can also be used to inform and educate others on someone who may be potentially very dangerous/has outrageous behavior. That said, people are capable of change if they wish to do so, and so to some degree I feel callout posts CAN be unfair or unjustified. Like, unless the matter is serious, keep it private, see if you can work it out among yourselves first.

12) Have you been involved in drama? Do you regret it?

uh. gonna throw this one under a read-more--

it's been a few years since then, so a good number of people don't know about this (while those who have been Around Awhile may remember) -- I had something of an altercation with someone on this platform who I thought I was close friends with for a few months to a year.

to call it 'drama' honestly feels undermining, because it was very real to me, to the point it triggered PTSD reactions in me and made me realize I had PTSD in the first place. tl;dr, as I remember it, there was one day I spent with others instead of this person, and that resulted in a total meltdown from this person. I asked for space because I was heavily triggered by the onslaught of demeaning insults and demands that I apologize. I was DM'd, I was called (on my phone, through my phone number), I was sent items like gifts and food to my house (for some context, I had housed this person for about a week to help them get out of a situation, so they knew of my address already), I learned awhile after that this person had gone to other people in order to get to me. I stepped away from tumblr for a little while. In that time, my friends were harassed, as was I. Eventually, I had a call with this person, to try and clear things up and maybe try to fix any problems, and they were just... unreasonable. That was the last time I ever contacted them, but not the last I'd heard of them. They proceeded to launch a smear campaign of me on this site, to luckily no avail.

I was fine if they decided they wanted to keep writing here. I didn't mind that. I encouraged people to still write with them, I wanted them to have interactions, as long as we stayed separated. I haven't heard anything of them in at least 2 years, I think.

As for regret, I... well, of course I regret it, to some extent. I wish it hadn't blown up as big as it did. I wish it hadn't happened at all. But, part of me also fears for if it didn't happen, and what state I'd be in now if that didn't happen. I don't think about this as often as I used to, but every once in awhile, it still crosses my mind and makes me incredibly sad.

[king-and-his-consorts]

RP Rules 

Rating:

This blog will eventually be 18+ with tagged NSFW posts. 

Basics:

I can be a bit selective at times but not private or exclusive. IMs and Asks are always open to talk to me about plotting. So, if you want to interact, feel free to message me. Please do not rush me, it tends to make me shut down to the levels of stress and depression I’m still getting used to.

I know a lot of people don’t like them but unfortunately I need an introductory thread in order to start writing with an OC or characters my muses haven't met yet. My muses can be hesitant or fickle. Unless my character knows yours in canon they need to be introduced because  I need to be able to form my responses around how our muses would actually interact, otherwise I tend to lose muse. 

Important Note!:

This is a queer-based RP blog. While that will not be the focus of threads, it does effect threads. Please respect the info below.

_ Luffy: Cis, Gay Polyromantic, Asexual. (Has a Bi verse specifically for Nami if my partner wishes it, but I won't push for it) _ Zoro: Cis, Gay, Demisexual. _ Sanji: Genderqueer (leans masculine. He/Him, occasionally She/Her), Bi.

Starting RPs:

There are several ways to RP with me.

 _ Send me an in-character ask _ Message me and ask to plot a thread  _ Send in an a starter meme I posted recently  _ Respond to one of my Open Starters that hasn’t been answered already

Writing Rules:

I write paragraph style, no asterisks. Please use a minimum of two sentences per reply unless we’ve known each other for a while. Your grammar and English do not have to be perfect. So long as I can get the basics of what you’re saying then we’re fine to continue.

Shipping:

Shipping and smut only happens if there is chemistry between our characters. Muses must have a first meeting before any shipping officially happens unless muses know each other in canon.

NoTPs: Luffy will not ship with his brothers. Sanji will not ship with any of his siblings. The trio won't ship with villains barring some possible plotted AUs.

Canon and OCs:

This blog is OC friendly and encourages them to interact. 

For canon, I love to interact with most One Piece characters. I will not interact with Doflamingos though. Sorry.

Warnings:

Combat violence, swearing, and the like.

Dark themes may happen. They are a part of life as well as a part of One Piece. If something in particular bothers you, tell me so that I can tag it for you.

Smut:

Smut may be put under a “read more” but that is currently undecided. =

Smut is only for Muns and Muses over 18. 

Triggers:

I will try to tag most triggers. Still, something may slip by, my apologies. Remind me if I miss something so that I can tag it.

Mun’s only trigger is maggots.

Tagging:

I am currently in the process of making a tagging system but I am forgetful. I do not usually tag every post. I usually will only tag the first post of a thread so that it can be found through the search.

[fathers-paranoia]

RP Rules

Rating:

This blog is 20+. Talk of gore, violence, child abuse, gaslighting, spouse death, kidnapping, etc. will be present as all of these are canon to the narrative of both Nathan and Harry's stories.

Basics:

I can be selective at times because of my mental health. I don't do exclusive. IMs and Asks are always open to talk to me about plotting. So, if you want to interact, feel free to message me. Please do not rush me, it tends to make me shut down due to the levels of stress and depression

I know a lot of people don’t like them but unfortunately I need an introductory thread in order to start writing with an OC or characters my muses haven't met yet. My muses can be hesitant or fickle. Unless my character knows yours in canon they need to be introduced because  I need to be able to form my responses around how our muses would actually interact, otherwise I tend to lose muse. 

Important Notes:

Both muses are widowers with 17-year-old daughters that they are highly protective of. Neither has remarried and raising their daughters has become their whole world.

Sexuality notes -

Harry is Bi.

Nathan is too fucking tired and stressed to know if he's anything other than straight.

Starting RPs:

There are several ways to RP with me.

 _ Send me an in-character ask _ Message me and ask to plot a thread   _ Send in an a starter meme I posted recently   _ Respond to one of my Open Starters that hasn’t been answered already

Writing Rules:

I write paragraph style, no asterisks. Please use a minimum of two sentences per reply unless we’ve known each other for a while. Your grammar and English do not have to be perfect. So long as I can get the basics of what you’re saying then we’re fine to continue.

Shipping:

Shipping and smut only happens if there is chemistry between our characters. Muses must have a first meeting before any talk of shipping officially happens unless muses know each other in canon.

Canon and OCs:

This blog is OC friendly and encourages them to interact. 

Warnings:

As mentioned Nathan and Harry are no strangers to gore and killing.

Death, violence, gore, and other excessively dark themes will be present in threads.

Smut:

Smut (if it even ever happens) is only for Muns and Muses over 20. 

Triggers:

I will try to tag most triggers. Still, something may slip by, my apologies. Remind me if I miss something so that I can tag it.

Mun’s only trigger is maggots.

[torn-butterfly-wings]

RP Rules

Rating:

This blog will eventually be 18+ with tagged NSFW posts. 

Basics:

I can be a bit selective at times but not private or exclusive. IMs and Asks are always open to talk to me about plotting. So, if you want to interact, feel free to message me. Please do not rush me, it tends to make me shut down to the levels of stress and depression I’m still getting used to.

I know a lot of people don’t like them but unfortunately I need an introductory thread in order to start writing with an OC or characters my muses haven't met yet. My muses can be hesitant or fickle. Unless my character knows yours in canon they need to be introduced because  I need to be able to form my responses around how our muses would actually interact, otherwise I tend to lose muse.

Starting RPs:

There are several ways to RP with me.

 _ Send me an in-character ask _ Message me and ask to plot a thread   _ Send in an a starter meme I posted recently   _ Respond to one of my Open Starters that hasn’t been answered already

Writing Rules:

I write paragraph style, no asterisks. Please use a minimum of two sentences per reply unless we’ve known each other for a while. Your grammar and English do not have to be perfect. So long as I can get the basics of what you’re saying then we’re fine to continue.

Shipping:

Shipping and smut only happens if there is chemistry between our characters. Muses must have a first meeting before any shipping officially happens unless muses know each other in canon.

Shipping nopes: _ Sora will not be shipped with any of her children. Nor will she be willingly giving her romantic attention to Judge after the birth of her sons. _ Unless its a major AU Cosette will NOT be shipped with Niji.

Canon and OCs:

This blog is OC friendly and encourages them to interact. 

For canon, I love to interact with most One Piece characters.

Warnings:

Dark themes such as spousal abuse, child experimentation, child abuse, violence, warmongering, forced marriage, imprisonment, etc. will all be regular topics on this blog. Germa is a very unkind place and both these women have been through hell.

Smut:

Smut is only for Muns and Muses over 18. 

Triggers:

I will try to tag most triggers. Still, something may slip by, my apologies. Remind me if I miss something so that I can tag it.

Mun’s only trigger is maggots.

[akirathedramaqueen]

Okay, I'll add my quarter here (is this an idiom in English?)

We had a talk the other day with @tealvenetianmask when we were planning out actions in a fic about whether their morning conversation happened the next day or at the end of October, so the month later.

We chose the next day, because (I am leaning to the original post here in terms of points order):

There is a good point in the tags of the original post that Stolas probably feels better because he had a refill of his SSRIs and should be in a better state of mind after a month being on them. While I find this believeable, I would also like to point the audience's attention, however, to the fact he had an irregular schedule already for months - he amped up the dosages multiple times, took them at different times of the day, and mixed them up with alcohol; pills wouldn't help him to be calmer because he already abused them for a long time, and that could actually be one of the reasons of his not quite stable behavior recently.

Following up on the previous point, Stolas is actually a good negotiator. He has trouble when people yell at him, that much is true. That's why during the Full Moon Meeting he just shut down completely. I have a hunch it has something to do with Stella abusing him for little over 17 years. But he is capable of talking back and even being snarky otherwise. Hell, look, in Western Energy he snapped at Striker, when he was already injured and in the situation which was well worth of stress. LOOK, he deranges Striker when his FUCKING LEG WAS BROKEN. My take is that the difference between the Full Moon and the Apology Tour episodes is simply that he was able to reflect, calm himself down, and like it usually happens, the shock was replaced with bitterness after some hours; you can't cry for that long, you would eventually exhaust your emotional resources after an hour or so. Maybe the stupid memes Blitzø thought was a good idea to send helped him to become angry and collected, too. Believe me, this bird is tougher than he seems.

One big evidence in favor of it being the month later is based on a good-detailed calendar Blitzø had on the wall. Can we then talk about Stolas's one, too? What this calendar system is even? Why this owl has 4 days in a week, and the full moon (I assume) is circled at the beginning of the month (at least in his chronology lol)?

Them fighting about something in Stolas's flashbacks could really happen anytime before the Full Moon. Also, the response I am reblogging has a great point about Occam's razor - having the whole month of their hiatus to cover would probably over-complicate the plot and would require at least a short explanation about what did they do in the meantime, and we haven't got any of that. I just have a strong hunch what if that would be the case, we would surely see at least some of their interactions in between;

Their conversation and Blitzø's texts attempts suggest it was the last night, and I HIGHLY doubt this was the night we don't know about, considering we have a clearly shown bad night in the Full Moon, just one episode earlier;

The show was never accurate with the timeline and there are plenty of questionable things which would be hard to achieve in the timeframe given. Take even the Blitzø's apology tour, for example: how did he manage to apologize to so many people in the daytime, prepare all the baskets, postcards, dress up for the memorial meeting (what a coinsidence that it happened the very same day, too), and be quick enough to rush to the hate party in the early evening? Why do we question Verosika's ability to snoop that Blitzø managed to fuck up yet another relationship in just one night?

I think the biggest thing which makes fans revolve around the idea it should be a month later is the calendar we have at hands. Which, I admit, is something I can't completely throw off the weights.

But, here's my theory to why we see such a detailed calendar flipped on the September page and contradicting information about characters talking about 'the last night' on October, 31st.

Considering the information I heard* about storyboards containing information that there probably were more phone angry conversations and Stolas blocked Blitzø at some point. But, you know what? They didn't end up in the release yet. They aren't in the final cut, at least not now.

*I am withdrawing any responsibility from me for this take because it's only something I read somewhere and I don't want to check it in case it's a leaked upcoming episode so please let me know if I am wrong here

So, my hunch is that before the Full Moon animation was finalized, there was a plan on expanding their hiatus to a whole month and add more scenes to how it was supposed to look like. Then, after the Full Moon was close to finishing, they probably came to the realization that the month-long hiatus was too complicated / pulled the narrative away from the pivotal Full Moon meeting / made the episode too long, and they decided to cut it. But, as the calendar scene was already finished and greatly detailed, it would cost a lot to get back to it and redraw it just for us to be happy with dates (And I will not shut up about Stolas's calendar, and I am not going to joke that rich people don't need to know when your regular 9-to-5 days happen... oh shit I already did :( ). Vivienne mentions herself in the podcast that mistakes and minor inconsistencies do happen, and she even sometimes knows about it before the episode gets released, but ultimately decides not to act on it because of potential reasons I mentioned above, and she is content with it - you can't be perfect, after all.

So on this note, I rest my case here, and I... well, I don't claim I am right strongly, but I do take the side of "this was the next morning" crew, just because it makes more sense to me narratively.

basically everyone i've seen has assumed that Apology Tour takes place directly after Full Moon, like within the same 24 hours, which like. fair. but honestly i don't think so.

I have a very hard time believing that Stolas can go from the full moon pic ⬆ to the apology tour pic ⬆ in like, eight-ish hours. (their fight in full moon was at midnight and the beginning scene in apology tour was in the morning [and we know that stolas' alarm goes off at 7am])

i don't buy that he can go from absolute despair to being bitter and angry in such a short time.

further proof: Apology Tour was explicitly set on Halloween, and the calendar shows that the full moon was on the 29th, and that the month doesn't even have 31 days. it aint October

Plus, this shot here ⬇ during the song clearly is a moment we hadn't seen. it certainly didn't happen during Full Moon.

they must have had some other interaction(s) in-between the two episodes. which i think makes sense if apology tour is a whole month after full moon, which the calendar makes it seem like it is.

I also think these texts here were about blitz calling him gay in the morning, and not that he sent them following stolas kicking him out of the palace in full moon.

thanks for coming to my ted talk whatever

[memesfromstuff]

A little recommendation for you all!

With this whole Beta Editor seeming to be pushed forwards for new blogs, and likely all of us as well (which you can read more about in other posts floating around in the RPC right now), I just wanted to make a little recommendation for you all.

Send FEEDBACK to Tumblr. And by that, I DO NOT MEAN you should complain to them about everything wrong about the Beta Editor. Please do not be mean or negative if sending them feedback, because one) there are real people behind the screens, as much as we tend to forget that sometimes, and two) if you’re only messaging them to be mean, then you’re really not contributing any solutions to the actual problem, nor do you make it appealing for them to hear you out if you do actually have suggestions / contributions.

So what I recommend is sending constructive feedback in a positive tone! How might that look like, you ask? Let me give you a small example of how you can format your message:

Hello! 

I just switched to the Beta Editor, and I have noticed a few things that currently makes it a bit difficult to use, and I have some ideas on what might make the Beta Editor better / easier to use. Right now, in the Beta Editor, it works like a,b,c. This makes it harder to use because d,e,f. I think a way that would solve this problem / make it easier to use is if it worked more like x,y,z.

Thank you for your time!

The reason I recommend us all doing this, is because the more feedback Tumblr gets on certain things, the more likely it is that they’ll one) actually consider changing something, and two) make it a higher priority to change said thing faster.

After all, the more something is requested, the more reason they have to actually consider it.

Now, how can you send your feedback to them, you ask? If you click your little avatar-icon at the top right of the screen, and then on the drop-down menu, you click on ‘? Help’, as shown in the image below, you will be taken to Tumblr’s help center site.

In the top right of the screen, you will see a button that says “Contact support”.

Click on it, and a sidebar will show up, with a space where you can fill in a category, your message, add an attachment if needed, choose a relevant blog, and your account email for them to message you back.

In the category dropdown menu, choose Feedback. Other than that, you don’t really need to add anything else, other than your actual feedback message, although if you think visual aid to show the problem you’ve encountered might be helpful, you can always add some screenshots and attach those.

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[brett-is-afraid]

Hey, it's Seán, a Jacksepticeye factive, and like,,, (apoligies for the ramble in advance!!!) While I fully know there's multiple people who ship Septicinnit, I'm largely convinced there's like. A small handful of us who are all just going around desperately knocking on doors for breadcrumbs; and I know at least four of us (Me, my Tommy, and two other alters we met on a discord server) are litterally introjects shipping OURSELVES.

It's honestly so funny. A friend sent me art on twitter of the ship but it's the first posted art I saw, and the person who requested it didnt know there was a shipname??? which makes me think that that poor soul hasn't found the (tiny as fuck) stash of Ao3 fics either, and to my knowledge there aren't any others so they probably haven't found any fics...at all,,,,, period....

So ahem;

All of this to say that "the rare Septicinnits" is an accurate as fuck description. That one anon you got of someone talking about how the Tommy vlog was ship fuel for multiple different ships, and then just. Casually called all of us that fucking SENDS ME. I reference it constantly. Tommy references it constantly. One of our friends references it also and they don't even ship it they've just started using "the rare Septicinnit(s)" as an affectionate nickname for us. I just need that one specific anon to know that that singular phrase now lives in my head "rent free" (as Tommy says). Congratulations. I am never going to be able to forget this. I can never be free from this cursed meme that isn't even an actual meme yet.

((also thank you for posting your Septicinnit anons because if you search that term on Tumblr, replies to these from you are just about the only things there at all. It's like all the members of our tiny, near-extinct rat species are scratching at your doorstep and leaving public notes for the other rats that sometimes you hand out cheese. I think this metaphor is getting away from me? We've been sick on and off since thanksgiving so my brain is jello))

No need to apologize for rambling and it absolutely does suck to have a ship where it seems nobody is catching onto it. Hopefully, more people will flock to the ship soon and there will be more content.

And I am nothing if not a kindly old man, confused as to why rats have flocked to my doorstep, but grateful. And occasionally, I just might open my door and toss little bits of cheese out to them.

[rpmemesbyarat]

RP meme from Scream Queens Ep 12 "Dorkus"

"I think you did it."

"These morons need someone to tear them a new one."

"I am going to write the missive to end all missives."

"I don't want your first time to be with a murderer."

"I love you. I would never, ever hurt you."

"I promise you're safe. That was part of the deal."

"You could never be touched."

"How many lives could you have saved?"

"Our mission never involved killing anyone."

"And it's not just wearing raw chickens on their heads and calling each other gay slurs while jumping around naked."

"It was a conspiracy."

"Stop rationalizing it. You killed people. You are not allowed to just say, "yeah, but I had a super good reason for it."

"Who did you kill?"

"What, are you gonna kill me now?"

"I would never hurt you. I just can't let you leave."

"If you could just stop, hear what I have to say, to understand---please--why I did what I did, you could still love me."

"Don't try to justify it all after the fact."

"They showed up one day thinking that I was a double agent, that I couldn't be trusted. They were going to kill me."

"Hey, hey, you can trust me, you can trust me! Ask me and I'll do anything. I'll prove it."

"Don't you see that they did that on purpose?! They knew that if you actually killed someone, you would be their slave!"

"We were the good guys. We were in this together!"

"I did this for you. Don't you understand?"

"The more I hear about this whole thing, the more I'm starting to think the idea that there are good and bad people in the world is just something adults use to get children to stay in line."

"I mean, aren't we being naive?"

"You took me literally?"

"You are already a murderer, [NAME], you don't have to be a douche as well!"

"This is not a philosophy course. This is murder-- serial murder!"

"I was so young and desperate to be special and loved."

"I never had a real girlfriend before."

"I was vulnerable enough to share my darkest fetish with you, and now you're making me feel self-conscious."

"Just come in and take me now."

"You are ridiculously and laughably gullible."

"What self-respecting man wouldn't do anything to get revenge for being degraded like that?"

"Unfortunately, I don't have great aim with a crossbow and I can't see anything in that mask."

"I don't want to be here anymore."

"I feel sick. This isn't what I wanted."

"Don't judge me for what we both know had to happen."

"You know what? Let's just run away together. You and me. Forget everything."

"Don't you see what I'm willing to do for you?"

"No! I don't want to speak to your supervisor!"

"I've gotten zero swipes on my profile!"

"Do you remember any aspect of this super simple plan?"

"I literally think you should consider undergoing a surgical procedure to remove your ovaries/testicles, thereby sparing human race exposure to your DNA."

"I mean, I'm all for public shaming. I practically invented it. It's the sign of a healthy culture. But not when I'm the one getting shamed."

"I wanted to be famous, but not like this."

"To all the so-called mainstream media, including weird web sites that nobody has heard of who have used my name as clickbait, and to all the relentless unwashed hordes on Twitter, who have taken every opportunity to mock and attack me mercilessly from the safety of their stained futons, I offer the following heartfelt sentiment. You can all suck it!"

"Despite my outward bravado, I was dead inside."

"I knew my glamorous reign of terror was over."

"I ordered an asp online so I could kill myself like Cleopatra, and now I'm just waiting for it to sense my body heat and come out and bite me so this will all be over."

"I understand that what you're going through is really intense. And I know you and I haven't really always seen eye to eye, And you say crazy-mean stuff to me all the time. And I have a real problem with your casual racism,

which is something we need to work on. But, girl, I promise I got your back."

"You're young, smart and beautiful, and you got a lot of living ahead of you."

"Maybe this is one of those teachable moments, you know? Like my grandmama says. Maybe this is where you learn the lesson that words really mean something and they can hurt people, so you just can't always say the first horrible thing that pops into your head all the time."

"Why are you being so nice to me?"

"Get me out of this suit!"

"What the hell is going on? Who is that guy?"

"Everyone on campus but me is a dork!"

"I'm gonna explode."

"When I woke up, I was wrapped in dynamite!"

"Oh, my god, it's a bomb."

"Yes, a totally innocent man who seemed super nice and probably did nothing wrong at all just got blown up in our living room. Bummer. Now, let's honor his memory by moving on."

"Can you not make it about you for one second?!"

"Stop wallowing and start concentrating on what's really important here--restoring my reputation."

"I need to go on an apology tour. You know, like celebrities, when they say something offensive, they just go on tv and apologize, and everybody forgives them, even though they don't mean it at all."

"I'm gonna fake apologize, you'll record it, we'll post it online, and it'll all be fine."

"But I thought that you said that you weren't the person who put the acid in the spray tanner."

"Why do you think the devil let me live?"

"I think you saw what you wanted to see."

"You can't kill people from a loving and positive place."

"Invasion of the dad bod snatchers."

"If it's good enough for the CIA, it's good enough for me."

"Get ready to make the most important playlist of your life."

"Well, I decided to stop denying what you and I both knew the minute we laid eyes on each other. And once I did, something inside of me, I don't know, it just, just clicked. And I guess I just wanted to get a little crazy."

"So you just decided to break into my house in the middle of the day?"

"I've been a very bad boy."

"I'm just trying to figure out what your angle is. What are you trying to get out of this?"

"You know what I'm trying to get? 45 minutes alone, so I can go crazy on you."

"Turn out the lights!"

"These are my minions."

"Those are the hounds."

"How do you know I'm not the killer?"

"This whole file is made up."

"Somebody just swiped right on me on Tinder."

"Any guy swiping right on you is a miracle."

"You want a drag?"

"That was the best sex of my life."

"I think you're just relieved to find out that intercourse doesn't have to be followed by hours and hours of crying and a weird purchase of an engagement ring."

"Look, I never knew sex could be like that. At first, I was like, I was like, "wow, she's being really loud. Are the neighbors gonna call the police?" And then I was like, "wow, now I'm being really loud. why am I screaming so much? They're definitely gonna call the police." And then I was just stunned at how flexible you are. I mean, I thought you had to be a gymnast to get both feet behind your head."

"I just think that maybe you and I were meant to be together after all."

"I find her unbearably annoying."

"I recognized the island splash scent of that douche you use."

"What movie are you even referring to?"

"Don't patronize me. I look like a monster."

"Well, have you thought of a little plastic surgery?"

"What are you doing? I thought you came here to apologize."

"I apologize for nothing."

"All evidence points to you."

"I know it was you. Have fun in hell, bitch. And fyi, this is probably gonna hurt a lot."

"Stop recording!"

"I knew that bitch was a nut burger the minute I met her."

"But remember, she's armed and dangerous."

"Oh, please tell me you did not bring your insane and obviously blind Tinder hookup back here."

"I lost my virginity to a Nickelback song."

[the-lost-media-blog]

Original Unedited Jeff The Killer Image

WARNING: Brief mention of suicide as that is part of one of the theories

Now, I have to admit, yes, the story (or at least the well known Jeff Woods) is well known in the community. But the origins of the image aren't, in fact, we do not know what's the truth here.

This is the image in question. It's paired up with both the original and the more well known late 2000 or early 2010's remake, which the latter can be read here warning it's a super long read, as I have no clue where the very first one is.

But, this isn't about any of the stories and more so the image.

There's a few things that are tricky about this image, and that is:

A) Where did it come from? B) Was this an edited image of Katy Robinson? C) Who made it or who is in it?

I'll go over those points today as an apology for being away so long and I didn't get to do my planned April Fools prank as I forgotten about it till now.

First, where did this come from?

One video on YouTube, that's entirely in Japanese, uploaded in early August of 2007 (could've been earlier), shows the image near the end of the video after showing the audience an odd looking baby. It's flashed for a bit before black screen with Japanese text.

This is one of the earliest appearances of Jeff, and it could've been earlier than that because Japan has their own video sharing site themselves. And I heard it's a meme there? I'm not to sure about that, I'll leave a link at the very end where I got the inspo to make this blog post.

But, people don't seem to like that theory so we move onto the Katy Robinson Theory.

For those who don't know, Katy Robinson is a girl who went into 4-Chan, posted a photo, got bullied and sadly killed herself afterwards. The following is an image often linked with this theory.

Now, while yes, if this is the case, it's a very tragic one. But the thing is, another image of Katy was found on a Christian website, on a section of email's they've gotten. Those emails were sent after she died, so unless her sister (the one who posted the above image) sent them out of her sis looking gothic then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Also, her name might be Heather White, not Katy Robinson.

Now onto the last topic, who made it/who was in it?

It couldn't have been Katy/Heather, as the story attached to that theory could be false; so the first of them is plausible, at least to me. The first one is that it's a Stickcam girl, and the other is of a mask made by Sessur (the original maker of the OG more or less unknown version).

The Stickcam girl story is very simple. A girl posted a picture of her trying to look good, some 4-chan users made up some edits and one of them blew up because people thought she wasn't that attractive. This thread is most likely lost to time unless someone screenshotted it to high heavens, so we most likely don't know what the OG thread looked like. As for the mask theory, in an interview with Scare Theater Sessur says that the image was simply a latex mask with eyes added with red eye lids for blinking that had black rings over it.

However let's take another look at the image once again:

Now, I haven't worn a latex mask, but I have seen several in person and this doesn't look like it really is latex. For example the sides of the lips look drawn out and 'feathered', most likely in Photoshop (which could be the case, but it's never specified), and the lighting is off. If the face is so bright while the background isn't? I know that this might've been a pic taken by someone in the story (maybe? please correct me), but if the flash was on then you might've gotten more of the background than this.

Also here's an actual Jeff the killer latex mask below for comparison. Notice how the smile doesn't seem super drawn out and 'feathered' like it does in the above image?

So this is where we stand. An unknown origin for a famous creepypasta image and a few theories out there. Here's the video that was my inspo for the blog post and I hope that y'all check out my previous post for giving me suggestions on what to cover next!

CURRENT STATUS:

Unknown/lost

[ultrahamilham]

You tagged me in a thing and I had a stroke, bless you

I get all Pikachu meme whenever I see you in my dash and you've referred to me and acknowledged my existence because it is literally the best thing ever, I have a mini stroke every time

Three ships: Jamilton, Jamilams and Jamilmads (would've said lams but then it just sounds like I'm saying the same ship in three different ways lol)

Last song: Uhh, I don't listen to music much, but Ultimately by Khai dreams

Last movie: The Hunchback of Notre dame

Currently craving: Sushi, oddly enough (I haven't had it in about nine years but still, want)

Currently reading: The Da Vinci code, and about five different fanfictions

About a very late answer to your question (My family has COVID, which is shocking to hear, or so I'm told, but they're recovering and they fortunately had a mild case and no one has any history of disease so they're going to be okay! That's what the doctor said and I'm praying), Taco hell made me laugh really hard when I read it and really lifted my spirits because I remember being in not a great place when I started it but it made me smile which was like, a thing for me, and don't judge me but I think The three way was probably my favourite and I don't want to think about what that says about me but it was really because I love works that are that long (around 50k is always my sweet spot). I'm not sure if I'm remembering right and I'm so so sorry if I'm getting the title song wrong but that one Jamilton fic with uh, Gucci and fendi in the title was really fun to read ;-;

I also remeber the first work of yours I ever read was this comfort Whamilton around 1.5 or 2k where it starts raining and Alexander is on edge but George comforts him- Okay, I'm ranting now, apologies. ;-; (idk You're super cool and I want to talk to you like, normally, but you'll hateee me and I don't want that and so here)

I never really get a chance to respond as soon as I'd like, BUT I never get to and if you don't want to know/care about my life- please skip to the next paragraph thank you. So, I did end up watching Snowpiercer! I watched all ten episodes in one day which is iffy to say the least, but I'm still alive! I did love it. And I've been alright- a bit anxious with everything, but I've been giving my tests and uni and stuff. Yesterday, I was about to go to the vet when u realised about two minutes into the ride that I forgot my dog so that was embarrassing. Almost competing with the time I dropped my phone and then followed it, dropping to my knees and immediately bursting into tears (Nothing even happened to my phone!). So if you read this, thank you again.

I wanted to ask how you were doing too! If you don't mind xxx

And as for the fanfic writer asks, would you mind answering 50 ;-;

Wgjfvqkcwkh also I heard about you and Henni getting married so CONGRATULATIONS that is the most amazing, sweetest thing and in honestly so f*cking happy for both of you. I audibly awwed when I saw that post and I can't believe I just remembered.

I'm so sorry this got out of hand with how long it is, I didn't mean for it to be ;-;

-shy anon, sincerely apologising for possibly ruining your day by oversharing and/or overstepping (also with love and congratulations for you and her)

I get the surprised pikachu face whenever you show up in my ask box ;-; It always makes me happy!!!

Okay but sushi is always good. The craving comes randomly for me as well. I didn’t crave it at all when I used to make it for a living, because I got so tired of it, but now I crave it every once in a while lol it’s really good ;-;

I really hope everyone is doing okay! COVID is scary and it’s no joke. Having it before was horrible for me and I would never wish it on anyone. I hope everyone including you is okay ;-;

I’m glad Taco Hell did what I was meaning for it to do! It’s meant to be lighthearted and make people laugh. It’s based off of my life and it’s actual situations I end up in all the time. It’s quite amusing lol

I would never judge you. The Three Way is literally the one fic I am most proud of. I could never judge you. I literally go back and read it every once in a while and go like “I made that... Holy fuck...”

Oh! Gucci Not Fendi is the title. I’m glad you liked it!!!

Rant all you want! I adore that Whamilton fic ;-;

Seriously, my dear, I can promise you that I won’t hate you at all. Believe me, I really won’t. I’m probably the most awkward and annoying person anyone will ever know and I overshare like everything. People know more about me than they really should.. Lol

I care about your life, I was the one that asked you to tell me! But honestly, snowpiercer was soooo good... Like I tried to binge it all in one day but I was trying to write as well and it didn’t go over well lmao, snowpiercer ended up winning! I’m really glad you watched it!!!

That whole forgetting your dog thing is a mood. Today I forgot to turn on the food heaters and I realized it right before it was too late. Almost lost $200 worth of meat... Oops... Lmao

I do that with my phone if I drop it even if it’s okay. I just freak the fuck out and cry before I know if there really is an issue

Also I’m doing good! I decided to just lay back and relax tonight so I’m having a few drinks and I’m gonna watch random shit lol I was up for 33 hours the night before last and slept for 15 hours after. I can’t recommend doing that, especially not when you’re like 24. I’m too old for that shit.

Hell yeah I can do 50! I will give you a sneak peak at the 3rd part of the three way... .-. It will be posted on Oct 19th!!!

Here it is. This is seriously NSFW lol:

Alexander looked down at Thomas and ran the fingers of his free hand through Thomas' hair. He licked his lips as he watched Thomas work his tongue expertly inside George. "You're such a good boy Thomas, you're already wrecking him." He purred. 

Thomas let out a low moan and kept up the work, getting a little more aggressive. Alexander could feel himself getting hard in his pants at the sight coupled with George's shameless moans. Alexander looked back at George's face and grinned a bit. "Are you proud of us, Daddy?" He asked. 

George pressed his forehead against the headrest and panted as Thomas wrecked him. He tried to push back against Thomas to no avail. "Fuck… Y-yes… Yes you two did so good… Please… Please do as you wish… Whatever you choose, do it… I will take whatever you give me, you de-deserve it…" George bit out desperately.

Alexander grinned in delight at that. He looked at Thomas who looked just as excited from what George just said. He then touched Thomas' shoulder. "Alright, that's enough babe. I'm going to stretch him, then we can give him a good spanking. Why don't you undress for me? I have a little treat for you." He purred.  -END of the preview.

Thank you so much! We are so freaking happy that it’s happening. We were planning it more today! It’s so amazing ugh.

I appreciate it all the same! It’s not too long for me at all!! Don’t you worry my dear <3 you didn’t overstep at all!

[thrillingdetectivetales]

So I know you haven't been writing much in Mag7 lately, but I was hoping you might be inspired to write some Varaday for one of these prompts?? ❝That was said so horribly wrong but you sounded very cute while trying. A for effort.❞❝I don’t go shopping, I get and retrieve. I have a narrow focus, unlike some people.❞❝Whiskey is a breakfast staple, anyone who says otherwise is fucking lying.❞❝I installed a stripper pole while you were gone because it made me think of you.❞ (I'm bad at favorites)

So I’ll admit that I waffled on whether I wanted to write a fill for Mag7 or not, because it has been Awhile, but I’m so glad that I did, so thank you so much for this prompt! I went with “That was said so horribly wrong but you sounded very cute while trying. A for effort.” I changed the actual literal dialogue up to make it sound more character accurate but the spirit of the prompt still absolutely stands.

I’m putting it behind a cut because probably not everyone wants to read about asshole cowboys in love, but if anyone else would like to play, the Obscenely Domestic Starters Meme is here.

“Jesus Christ,” Faraday groused, sagging against the boulder at his back and mopping his sweat-soaked brow with the rolled cuff of his dusty gray sleeve. “It’s hotter’n hell out here.”

Vasquez snorted and leaned over to spit into the dirt. “Dime algo que no sepa, guero.”

They were posted up on a high outcropping overlooking a narrow valley pass just outside Blackwater, with squat wedges of barren red rock and withered husks of scrub grass the only cover from the brutal late August heat for miles. The sun had meandered across the sky some hours before to hover stubbornly overhead, glaring yellow eye trained viciously upon them where they were waiting on Sam and Miz Cullen to drive a wagonful of banditos—helpfully infiltrated by their own Billy Rocks—into the pinched channel.

Goody was belly-down on a narrow overhang about halfway up the cliff face with a rifle in hand and Red was supposedly loitering somewhere on the opposite ridge, though they had lost sight of him as soon as they parted ways down by the shallow creek at the bottom of the bluff and likely wouldn’t spot him again until the bullets started flying. All in all, warrant hunting seemed to be mostly a whole lot of hurry up and wait, with a hearty side helping of blistering derision courtesy any one of the traveling companions he’d rubbed wrong that day, present company included. Faraday hadn’t quite decided yet if he liked it, but this morning wasted boiling alive in the wilds of the Arizona territory certainly wasn’t doing much to convince him.

“You gonna talk at me in Mexican this whole time?” Faraday grumbled, knocking the scuffed leather toe of his boot against the gaudy silver cap gleaming at the tip of Vasquez’s own. The other man shrugged, rolling the unlit butt of a half-smoked cigarillo between his teeth. He was settled near enough to Faraday that their shoulders brushed and an altogether different sort of heat fizzed under Faraday’s skin at the contact.

“Tal vez,” Vasquez offered. “Could talk Mexican at me, too, you know.”

Faraday snorted. “Now why would I go and do that?”

“You could use the practice, mijo.” Vasquez arched an eyebrow and shot a fond, intent look from beneath the sweeping black brim of his hat. “Remember what you said the other day?”

“No,” Faraday said, pointed.

“You told the whole saloon you were pregnant,” Vasquez provided helpfully. “Sheriff Martìnez laughed so hard he spit beer out his nose.”

It was a small blessing, Faraday considered, that he was already flushed red from the heat. With any luck, the flood of sheepish irritation bleeding up from his chest wouldn’t show in his face so clearly as it normally did, though the sudden smug curl of Vasquez’s smirk suggested otherwise.

“How I was supposed to know that’s what it meant?” Faraday snapped. “It’s got ‘embarrassed’ right in there!”

“It was a good effort,” Vasquez assured, voice thick with delighted condescension. He reached up to bump his knuckles affectionately against Faraday’s chest but Faraday caught his hand in the air, wrapping his fingers tight around it and yanking none too gently until they were standing side by side with their arms tucked down between them, halfway to holding hands like idiots.

“Shut up,” he snapped, and Vasquez snickered through his teeth.

“It was!” he insisted gleefully, that wheezing coyote cackle warping his words. “I’ve never seen you try to apologize before, mijito. Though,” he added, leaning in with his voice low and rough, “if it always goes that badly, I can understand why.”

“Fuck off,” Faraday snarled. He abandoned his grip on Vasquez’s hand in favor of half-turning to shove him away, but Vasquez just laughed and rocked with the motion, slipping even further into Faraday’s space on the return arc.

“It was adorable,” he cooed, plucking the cigarillo from his mouth and stepping up in front of Faraday to press him back into the sun-baked rock. Faraday leaned willingly back but tipped his chin so their noses bumped together. “Y tan dulce en tu parte.”

“I told you I ain’t puttin’ up with that Mexican horseshit,” he grumbled.

“Te gusta esa mierda Mexicana,” Vasquez assured easily. He turned his face just a little, so that his beard dragged against the scruff on Faraday’s cheek and murmured, “Besame.”

“I’m sorry,” Faraday breathed snidely into the half-inch of space between them, grinning sharp. “Did you have a request you wanted to make in English, muchacho?”

“Yo se que me entiendes, pendejito,” Vasquez chided fondly. He nudged Faraday’s nose again. “Besame. Vamos, rápido. Before Sam rounds those ladrones up and we have to go to work.”

“I said English, cowboy, or get - ” Faraday started, but was almost immediately cut off by the hot press of Vasquez’s mouth.

His tongue was soft and slick and tasted largely of tobacco after an hour spent gnawing on the very thing. It curled so sweetly around Faraday’s own that a hard shot of lust ricocheted firecracker-bright all the way down to his toes. He reached up and took a fistful of Vasquez’s vest, canting his head for a better angle, and swallowed down the warbling moan that Vasquez licked into his mouth. He set both hands to Faraday’s hips, fingers digging hard enough to bruise, and Faraday sucked a breath past his teeth, short and sharp.

“Well, now,” he teased, voice low and rasping with want. “Ain’t no reason ever to learn Mexican if this is the reward I get for not speakin’ it.”

“Idiota,” Vasquez said, rolling his eyes. He delivered a quick, chaste kiss to the corner of Faraday’s mouth and then pinched his side, hard, just as the thundering rattle of a carriage picked up in the distance.

“The hell was that for?” Faraday yelped, glowering at Vasquez’s back as he turned to peer down into the ravine.

“Being a stubborn ass,” Vasquez supplied benignly. He pulled one of his pistols from its holster at his hip and wagged it in the air, summoning him over. “Let’s go, guero. Showtime.”

“I oughta push you off this goddamn cliff,” Faraday grumbled, gamely drawing Ethel and pulling her hammer back. There was a gauzy plume of dust rising in the distance, bricky orange against the flat blue sky.

“Go ahead,” Vasquez invited cheerfully. “Good luck finding anyone else who’ll put up with you.”

Faraday snorted and swatted him in the shoulder. “Love you too, jackass.”

——–

Translations & explanations:

The joke is that in Spanish, “embarazada” means “pregnant” but sounds to an unfamiliar English-speaking ear like it should mean “embarrassed.” It’s a very common mishap for learners of the language to make. 

Dime algo que no sepa, guero. - Tell me something I don’t know, guero.

Tal vez. - Probably.

Y tan dulce en tu parte. - And very sweet on your part.

Te gusta esa mierda Mexicana. - You like that Mexican shit.

Besame. - Kiss me.

Yo se que me entiendes, pendejito. - I know you understand me, (affectionate form of) asshole.

Besame. Vamos, rápido. - Kiss me. Let’s go, quick.

ladrones - thieves

All Spanish provided with the caveat that, while I was technically considered fluent in the language at one point in time, I haven’t used it regularly in, oh. Seven years or so? There may be some mistakes and I welcome corrections. :)

Thank you again, @gatesofivoryandhorn for the prompt!! I hope you enjoyed it!

[verdigrisprowl]

Dec 31 Dancitron Movie Night - Gotham s2 e6-9

There was a Starscream. He insulted Prowl and Prowl promptly ignored him the entire night.

There was, as usual, debate about the legality, morality, and intelligence of the Gotham police and their criminal rivals.

Today NoodlesAtNight 7:46 pm ((SORRY rabbit literally closed my cast right as i posted, i'm setting back up ahhhhh i'll go fast)) Today badmasteryoujerk 7:46 pm ((hhaha npnp NoodlesAtNight 7:47 pm ((LMAO prowl's name)) verdigrisprowl 7:47 pm ((ouo)) NoodlesAtNight 7:48 pm *Soundwave is hurrying to put things in order tonight, so he's almost done. He's GOT to know what is happening in Penguin land. His poor creator.* badmasteryoujerk 7:48 pm ((too pure for this world)) badmasteryoujerk 7:49 pm *Starscream bursts in, swinging his arms out* BOOM BABY- wheres my sweets. I demand sweets. Swervester 7:49 pm I missed last week so I'm flying blind this week but that's fine. How's everyone? NoodlesAtNight 7:49 pm ((summaries linked on post if needed! you got 25 minutes to read)) *Soundwave doesn't even act surprised by Starscream's nonsense. He just points his arm at the bar. Snacks and drinks over there. Free. No high grade though, unless you pay for it.* This message has been removed. verdigrisprowl 7:49 pm *Prowl arrives JUST in time to see that display.* Oh no. Swervester 7:50 pm //etgv is this a slow version it's so much slower than the one i have badmasteryoujerk 7:50 pm Oh yes~! *He snags a bag of chaps and shuffles behind the lounging unit* NoodlesAtNight 7:50 pm ((i have no idea)) NoodlesAtNight 7:51 pm [[All he will ask is that you keep any declarations of leadership to a minimum. This is his home, and as such, /he/ is the law here.]] *Soundwave pings Prowl an affection/greeting combo.* [[And Swerve, he is doing fine, thank you.]] badmasteryoujerk 7:51 pm *He squints in defiance but reserves his announcements of leadership, just stuffing a few chaps in his intake* Swervester 7:52 pm Good to hear. NoodlesAtNight 7:53 pm [[Nothing to report from any of you?]] verdigrisprowl 7:53 pm *A Starscream who appears to be in a confident mood. Prowl's worst nightmare.* Swervester 7:53 pm Not much. Chased a Meme out of my bar for dabbing. badmasteryoujerk 7:54 pm *he's just going to sit back here and squint at everyone like a raccoon protecting its food source* NoodlesAtNight 7:54 pm [[Oh? He knows how to do that. What is so terrible about it?]] verdigrisprowl 7:54 pm *Returns Soundwave's pings.* Nothing you probably haven't already seen in the news. *An arrest here, an ongoing investigation there.* Swervester 7:54 pm It's the root of all evil. Also it annoys Meme when I tell him he can't dab. NoodlesAtNight 7:55 pm *Eyes Whirl and gives... sort of a tiny nod. Definitely time to get Rumble down here.* Boomtank 7:55 pm -trots in, not looking dead tired for once- chronosmith 7:55 pm *he has been lingering in the doorway for the last few moments, very still, just looking around a bit* Swervester 7:55 pm ...Have I ever seen you dab. NoodlesAtNight 7:55 pm [[He hardly doubts dabbing has any ties to Unicron.]] *Pause.* [[And no, you have not. But there is a visual record of it somewhere around here...]] [[Blaster. Evening.]] badmasteryoujerk 7:55 pm *He climbs over the back of the couch and sort of perches on the back of it, folding his legs and resting his chin on his servo* chronosmith 7:56 pm *he looks at Soundwave when he nods, but doesn't return the gesture; instead he starts to slooowly walk in, making his way across the floor to his usual spot* verdigrisprowl 7:56 pm *PROWL hasn't seen Soundwave dab. He must've done it for Shockwave.* Boomtank 7:56 pm Hello, Soundwave verdigrisprowl 7:56 pm *a greeting nod at Whirl.* Swervester 7:56 pm I'm pretty sure Unicron dabs. badmasteryoujerk 7:56 pm What is this- dabbing thing? NoodlesAtNight 7:56 pm [[Unicron does NOT dab.]] Swervester 7:56 pm [that's a joke but also now that he's said it...] verdigrisprowl 7:57 pm It's a mating display. badmasteryoujerk 7:57 pm Oh dear Primus. I demand you show me how. chronosmith 7:57 pm *another look, a slight bob in return* verdigrisprowl 7:57 pm *There is a chance that he sort of just wants to show off that he knows something Starscream doesn't.* I— what. badmasteryoujerk 7:57 pm *he clicks his digits and points to the floor in front of him* Now Swervester 7:57 pm You can't just demand someone dab NoodlesAtNight 7:57 pm [[Like that.]] *Gesture.* badmasteryoujerk 7:58 pm DO IT SWINE Swervester 7:58 pm OH. Soundwave *does* dab Boomtank 7:58 pm -covers mouth, at the picture on screen, trying not to laugh- NoodlesAtNight 7:58 pm [[...And it is NOT a mating display.]] *Someone's belatedly catching up on what was said while he was searching.* verdigrisprowl 7:58 pm *check out that deer in headlights look on Prowl.* I haven't— *and IMMEDIATELY shuts his mouth at the insult.* Swervester 7:58 pm Anyway like I was saying, you can't insult someone and demand they dab on cue. chronosmith 7:58 pm *okay, the sheer anmount of ridiculousness actually... makes him feel a little better* chronosmith 7:59 pm I don't think he's into you, Starscream. Go beg a mating display off someone else. badmasteryoujerk 7:59 pm I dont give one single frag if he is or not. I demand he dab in my presence NoodlesAtNight 7:59 pm [[...Who were you calling]] [][][]swine.[][][] Swervester 7:59 pm It's not-- Boomtank 7:59 pm Can we demand you leave then? badmasteryoujerk 7:59 pm Its different if its an explanatory sexual advance chronosmith 7:59 pm This message has been removed. NoodlesAtNight 7:59 pm *Because he noticed Prowl getting quiet, and Primus help him, if Starscream was insulting his amica--* verdigrisprowl 8:00 pm And I decline to obey your completely invalid command. chronosmith 8:00 pm Looks like you're in for a nice long night of disappointment. verdigrisprowl 8:00 pm *and he is VERY FIRMLY fixing his gaze on the screen.* Swervester 8:00 pm Don't click the button. badmasteryoujerk 8:00 pm *he rolls his optics and just shoves a few more chaps in his intake* NoodlesAtNight 8:01 pm *Sits next to Prowl but still gives Starscream a lingering stare. He then turns a feeler that direction so he can look at the screen with his optics. He is WATCHING YOU, birdy butt.* chronosmith 8:01 pm *that was satisfying. This isn't so hard. He's just going to pick up the pace, trotting over to his usual place, and takes a seat on his couch* NoodlesAtNight 8:02 pm *And here comes Rumble charging down the stairs with a whoop. Three guesses where he's headed and the first two don't count!* verdigrisprowl 8:02 pm ((and there was half a second there where he was considering it, until he was called a pig.)) badmasteryoujerk 8:02 pm *The seeker squints towards whomever this mech thought he was sitting on his perching place* *he sort of just* *flicks a chap at him* NoodlesAtNight 8:02 pm @P: [[Was that directed at you?]] SCProwl 8:02 pm *arrives finally* SCProwl 8:03 pm *missed all the "fun"* Boomtank 8:03 pm Hi, Prowl NoodlesAtNight 8:03 pm *It's probably for the best.* Swervester 8:03 pm [feels so much regret] chronosmith 8:03 pm *he will shift to make room* Hey, Rumble. NoodlesAtNight 8:03 pm ((grab snacks n drinks, use the bathroom, whatever you gotta do - we start in 6)) chronosmith 8:03 pm Long time no see. verdigrisprowl 8:04 pm @S «It was. I'm inclined to ignore it as long as similar behavior doesn't continue.» SCProwl 8:04 pm Hello, Blaster. *takes her usual seat* badmasteryoujerk 8:04 pm *Flicks another chap* *and then another* *so many chaps* *all over the couch* Swervester 8:04 pm Stop wasting snacks. verdigrisprowl 8:04 pm ((guess who got food on time tonight for once)) SCProwl 8:04 pm ((eyyy badmasteryoujerk 8:04 pm ((yasss!! NoodlesAtNight 8:05 pm //No kiddin'! Time's been rough. Glad yer - glad yer here, though. Heh.// *He'd kind of wondered if the Boss had managed to chase Whirl off.* chronosmith 8:05 pm *pauses a moment to look over at Starscream's Couch, which is rapidly becoming Starscream's Table* ...interesting crowd you got tonight. NoodlesAtNight 8:05 pm [[New rule: Anyone who intentionally makes messes will be denied the materials for said messes next time they attend.]] SCProwl 8:05 pm ((i know you just played a p!nk song, but now I wanna hear beautiful trauma badmasteryoujerk 8:05 pm *He squints at this, before grumbling and snapping up the food off the couch* chronosmith 8:05 pm Yeah. *there's a pause. He's still staring off, and after a moment, he looks back down again* Sorry that I haven't made it out. NoodlesAtNight 8:06 pm @P: [[He is sorry he missed it. Should it happen again, he will act on it.]] *Ha. Look at that. Starscream listening to his orders. Now where was that with his own during the war, he asks you?* chronosmith 8:07 pm ((i just gotta share the way my rabbit icons are arranged:

https://gyazo.com/7b90e5ada1aabc3b3d20a4958650200d Gyazo Gyazo   Boomtank 8:07 pm -settles down, and pulls out a data-pad- chronosmith 8:07 pm ((SUSPICIOUS)) Boomtank 8:07 pm ((HAH SCProwl 8:07 pm *is gonna remember that rule the next time Swoop does something disgusting with food* NoodlesAtNight 8:07 pm ((omg)) badmasteryoujerk 8:07 pm ((look at that good boy tho Swervester 8:07 pm //im laughing the wave soundwave's just [innocent whistle] verdigrisprowl 8:08 pm ((on my version, whirl is angrily squinting over at nothing)) badmasteryoujerk 8:08 pm ((kdlsjgklsdjg Swervester 8:08 pm //meanwhile mine's arranged with soundwave glaring at starscream badmasteryoujerk 8:08 pm ((lord help me SCProwl 8:08 pm ((soundwave looks all like "i've done nothing wrong, ever, in my life" chronosmith 8:08 pm (("Screw you, NOTHING. I'm gonna save Fantasia and there's nothing you can do about it.")) Swervester 8:08 pm //trhgbg NoodlesAtNight 8:09 pm //Interestin's a good word for it.// *Rumble snorts at Starscream before looking back to Whirl.* //Nah, nah. Don't apologize. We - I get it. Like, all of it. You got reasons.// badmasteryoujerk 8:09 pm

the anger is real)) NoodlesAtNight 8:09 pm ((mine has soundwave staring at literally ALL OF YOU. as it should be.)) SCProwl 8:09 pm ((Prowl just smirking in the middle lol chronosmith 8:09 pm ((looks like swerve is glaring at starscream across a room)) Swervester 8:09 pm //lmao badmasteryoujerk 8:09 pm ((Exactly XD chronosmith 8:09 pm ((SOME ENCHANTED EVENING... when you see your true hate... when you feel him call you, across a crooowded room)) NoodlesAtNight 8:10 pm *Gets his timeline's Prowl set up with a feed and digs out his warnings for the group. Thankfully, Whirl missed the really terrible arm chop last week.* badmasteryoujerk 8:10 pm *A quiet little chirp could be heard from the seeker, and he settles again, this time, searching the room not for the glances being shot at him, but where ever the fuck the blankets were* SCProwl 8:10 pm *appreciative ping* NoodlesAtNight 8:10 pm *Upstairs. Ask nicely and he might share one.* NoodlesAtNight 8:11 pm ((OH HELL i apparently overwrote tonight's warnings by accident. okay, let me think if i can think of what they'd be)) Swervester 8:12 pm //rip Boomtank 8:14 pm ((scuse me, dying over here ((friend did a dumb and now I hurt something laughing NoodlesAtNight 8:15 pm ((WARNINGS: Violence, blood, death, excessive police force, foul language, the usual. Poor depictions of mental illness. Severed body part(s), needles, cannibalism. Anything else I'll try to remember before it happens but I can't promise.)) ((Whirl: you ain't gonna want to look during the vending machine scene)) chronosmith 8:15 pm ((TWO STARSCREAMS)) ((GOTCHA)) Yeah. Yeah. *he falls contemplatively quiet, like he's trying to decide something; after a moment he just gives his head a little shake* But you know me. Can't keep me down. *nudges gently* You been good? badmasteryoujerk 8:15 pm ((My dang connection!! chronosmith 8:16 pm I see dangling his weakness out there for everyone to see is finally biting him in the ass. badmasteryoujerk 8:16 pm *He jolts up a tad at the sounds of the television, quirking his helm in confusion* NoodlesAtNight 8:16 pm //Ain't nobody stronger, huh?// *He offers up a little smile. He doesn't want Whirl to have to act anything less than that in front of others. They can talk more about that later, if Whirl wants.* // Yeah, sure, I been good. Done a whole lotta writing.// NoodlesAtNight 8:17 pm //Oh, yeah. This guy been blackmailin' him real good into doin' all kindsa scrap.// verdigrisprowl 8:17 pm Hm. And here I'd thought they'd lure him to a fake location. chronosmith 8:17 pm HA. Oh, that's delightful. I love that. badmasteryoujerk 8:17 pm *he narrows his optics and lets out a little, low growl* *he doesnt like that lady* chronosmith 8:18 pm *he genuinely perks up a bit, looking back down to Rumble* Really? I should--I mean, if you want to share it, I should check it out. Boomtank 8:18 pm . . . NoodlesAtNight 8:18 pm *He should. She broke Butch's mind control.* verdigrisprowl 8:18 pm *very, very slow, very quiet sigh of relief.* chronosmith 8:18 pm *he might have missed a chunk of this season but he remembers Butch's whole situation, and watching this mind control backfire is delicious* NoodlesAtNight 8:19 pm //Yeah?// *His visor flickers in a blink.* //I mean-- yeah! Yeah, sure! I got questions, actually - don't know nothin' 'bout helicopterin', 'n the Boss don't fly like that.// badmasteryoujerk 8:19 pm *Even lower, guttural growl* NoodlesAtNight 8:19 pm [[Oh dear.]] *He hears that sigh and is relieved for a different reason.* chronosmith 8:19 pm HA. Swervester 8:19 pm Oh chronosmith 8:19 pm I picked a good night to come back, I really did. verdigrisprowl 8:19 pm I was expecting a gun. The knife is certainly more dramatic. badmasteryoujerk 8:19 pm COBBLEpot?! what an insult. NoodlesAtNight 8:19 pm [[This poor human. Imprisoned for so long, and then this...]] NoodlesAtNight 8:20 pm //...Why's it an insult?// badmasteryoujerk 8:20 pm Sounds like an insu- *he gets quiet, squinting back at the television* chronosmith 8:20 pm I'm not exactly a literary critic so I probably can't give you any kind of useful WRITING advice, but yeah. Hell yeah. *bobs his head* Boomtank 8:20 pm Um... badmasteryoujerk 8:21 pm *seeker wings fly up, loud chirps* Ooooh~ Swervester 8:21 pm That's dramatic. badmasteryoujerk 8:21 pm I like him~ SCProwl 8:21 pm I thought it sounded like a term of endearment. NoodlesAtNight 8:21 pm [[He is quite the conniver.]] *To the other Prowl.* [[And so did he. Perhaps it has a bad meaning for other humans.]] verdigrisprowl 8:21 pm He is indeed. chronosmith 8:22 pm It's a shame he wasn't so dumb about his *big claw air quotes* Conniving. But hey, I guess he's alive. Counts for something. NoodlesAtNight 8:22 pm ((ngl i love that the riddler's first riddle goes to himself)) chronosmith 8:22 pm ((it's a cool touch!)) badmasteryoujerk 8:23 pm *eats the rest of his chaps, before squinting towards the other snacks and slowly crawling his way off the couch and shuffling towards the table* NoodlesAtNight 8:24 pm [[...You're welcome to eat as much as you like.]] *They have more than enough, and they are, in fact, mostly provided for those who can't get enough rations any other time.* badmasteryoujerk 8:24 pm *Another little chirp* Mmmph.. *He takes the pack of cookies and climbs back onto the couch* Boomtank 8:25 pm -hums and has gone to picking at his paperwork between listening to the show and conversations- NoodlesAtNight 8:25 pm *Test lean on Prowl? Allowed? Or is this Starscream's presence too much of a Danger?* NoodlesAtNight 8:26 pm [[...He does not like this development.]] Boomtank 8:26 pm ...... badmasteryoujerk 8:26 pm ... verdigrisprowl 8:26 pm *what's the worst Starscream can do? insult Prowl again? leans back against Soundwave.* Boomtank 8:26 pm That's not a good sign verdigrisprowl 8:27 pm Bad development. Expected development. chronosmith 8:27 pm *rolls his optic* NoodlesAtNight 8:27 pm [[...He said]] [][][]feel safe.[][][] [[Not be safe.]] badmasteryoujerk 8:27 pm PSh. *He snickers* verdigrisprowl 8:27 pm If people are safe but don't feel safe, they don't think they're safe. chronosmith 8:27 pm Shame I can't exactly root for the guy who took out the Penguin's mom. verdigrisprowl 8:27 pm If people feel safe but aren't safe, they think they're safe. chronosmith 8:27 pm The only character left for me is Drunk Cop, apparently. NoodlesAtNight 8:28 pm //The Harvey fleshie? I like him/// verdigrisprowl 8:28 pm Whirl, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this. Swervester 8:28 pm Oh. verdigrisprowl 8:28 pm He's sober now. chronosmith 8:28 pm Yeah, that guy. *exhales a long, drawn-out, mock sigh. Long pause.* Thank you for breaking it to me gentle, Prowl. Swervester 8:28 pm //rthbg prowl im dying badmasteryoujerk 8:29 pm *he growls again, sort of rolling a bit* Swervester 8:29 pm Does she have the authority to make that decision. NoodlesAtNight 8:29 pm [[She is certainly claiming it.]] Boomtank 8:29 pm ............. badmasteryoujerk 8:29 pm What a snot nosed little-- chronosmith 8:29 pm There's only one thing left for me to do. Make up for all the drinking he's missing out on. *he's gonna hop up to head for the bar* Swervester 8:29 pm ...I don't advocate hurting children but wow I don't like her. badmasteryoujerk 8:29 pm I ADVOCATE IT verdigrisprowl 8:30 pm I wish I didn't have to break it to you at all. NoodlesAtNight 8:30 pm ((this song ahaha)) badmasteryoujerk 8:30 pm she should perish Boomtank 8:30 pm She's...not...a child I like Swervester 8:30 pm ...She reminds me of Starscream actually. chronosmith 8:30 pm So do I, Prowl. So do I. But I need the truth. badmasteryoujerk 8:31 pm *he jolts, letting out a loud chirp of slight shock* NoodlesAtNight 8:31 pm //...Bro, that's only a snack if you're Blurr.// chronosmith 8:31 pm *blinks at the screen. Pauses. Then just stares* verdigrisprowl 8:31 pm ... He just s-sticks it under his— chronosmith 8:31 pm *resolutely does not look away* verdigrisprowl 8:31 pm *puts a hand over his mouth. he shouldn't laugh. it's not funny.* *it's pretty funny.* Swervester 8:31 pm [slowly turns off his visor for a moment] Boomtank 8:31 pm ............................... SCProwl 8:31 pm *except it is, ladyfingers* badmasteryoujerk 8:32 pm Soundwave. Soundwave. Sound. Wave. Soundwave *whispers* Where are your blankets NoodlesAtNight 8:32 pm @W: //... Hey, you okay? I thought you wasn't supposed to lookit...// Boomtank 8:32 pm -soft snort. He's not laughing at that, he's NOT- NoodlesAtNight 8:32 pm *Soundwave glances at Starscream.* [[What color.]] badmasteryoujerk 8:32 pm ...mmrrr.. *He rolls over onto his back a bit, wings sprawled out under him* Red. No Purple. no Red. SCProwl 8:33 pm I sincerely hope he's not going to be finding body parts all over the GCPD. verdigrisprowl 8:33 pm *flatly* Give him yellow. badmasteryoujerk 8:33 pm NOOOOOOOOO chronosmith 8:33 pm *he just stands there by the bar, staring blankly at the screen, for a few long moments. Eventually blinks, tilts his head, and turns back to the bar* @R: Fine. Fine. verdigrisprowl 8:33 pm *both annoying AND satisfying.* NoodlesAtNight 8:34 pm *He'll just stretch a feeler through a bridge opening at the ceiling, sort through his collection, and bring one down. It is a sunset. Reds, purples... AND yellows. And oranges.* badmasteryoujerk 8:34 pm Mouthy little snot nosed... NoodlesAtNight 8:34 pm *Here you go, Starscream. Enjoy.* NoodlesAtNight 8:35 pm [[Saved your hide, human.]] badmasteryoujerk 8:35 pm *A happy little chirp escapes him and he quickly snags it, pulling it over his head* verdigrisprowl 8:35 pm Selina could very easily clear this up by telling him what she said while he was out of the room. Very, very easily. But of course, she doesn't. NoodlesAtNight 8:35 pm [[If he believed her.]] [[He seems very taken with the other human.]] @W: //If you're sure - uh, DON'T LOOK.// Boomtank 8:35 pm -facepalms- verdigrisprowl 8:35 pm She won't know unless she tries. There is no good reason NOT to try. NoodlesAtNight 8:36 pm [[A fair point.]] chronosmith 8:36 pm *doesn't respond, but he's facing the bar, doing what he's gotta to get himself a Gaugebuster* NoodlesAtNight 8:36 pm *Yes, apologies - Ravage is hunting tonight.* badmasteryoujerk 8:37 pm *There is a moment of silence, before he shifts down into his skinny little holoform and burrows into the blanket* Swervester 8:37 pm Did he seriously just leave her around the police station. chronosmith 8:37 pm *he's had enough practice mixing on his own, it's perfectly fine. Just needs to remember to pay the mech next week* NoodlesAtNight 8:37 pm *Soundwave startles at Starscream's transformation into a human.* [[What in the Pits--]] //Guess he musta done.// Boomtank 8:37 pm -WELL that's new- NoodlesAtNight 8:37 pm //Leavin' her, I mean.// badmasteryoujerk 8:37 pm *He squints just from under the corner fold of the blanket, happy tiny seeker boy* SCProwl 8:38 pm It's a good thing for him the GCPD is full of incompetents. NoodlesAtNight 8:38 pm [[He hopes Jim will /do something/ with that belief after this.]] //Haha, frag, lookit them guns.// NoodlesAtNight 8:38 pm //Hot.// badmasteryoujerk 8:39 pm Heheheh baldy chronosmith 8:39 pm *and he trots back, Gaugebuster gripped in his claw* Damn, I missed 'em. SCProwl 8:39 pm Oh. Him. chronosmith 8:39 pm *settles back down and hunches over his drink like a gargoyle, as per usual* NoodlesAtNight 8:40 pm *Turns to V Prowl* [[...CAN they do that?]] verdigrisprowl 8:40 pm Legally? Absolutely not. chronosmith 8:40 pm Why leave when you apparently have some pretty awesome guns inside? That the camera is RESOLUTELY refusing to show me. verdigrisprowl 8:40 pm Ethically? Also no. Strategically? It's a sound plan. NoodlesAtNight 8:40 pm //Awww yeah.// Swervester 8:41 pm Oh, I'd never be allowed to shoot those. verdigrisprowl 8:41 pm ... There's a back window. They could have just, gone out the back window. Swervester 8:41 pm Which is a smart decision. chronosmith 8:41 pm Oh, there we go. *nudges Rumble* You're right. *and he tilts his head like a wine-taster savoring a bouquet* Listen! The clarion call of automatic weaponry. NoodlesAtNight 8:41 pm [[And lose the chance to fire those?]] *Huffing.* badmasteryoujerk 8:41 pm *little raven head peeks out from behind the blankets, wiggling his legs* verdigrisprowl 8:41 pm Take one along and try it out at the shooting range. chronosmith 8:41 pm Prowl, shooting through glass and AT people is so much more satisfying. NoodlesAtNight 8:42 pm *Rumble mock swoons across Whirl's lap and puts a hand over his forehead.* //I'm overcome by th' beauty of it all.// [[Would they not then be in trouble for stealing the gun?]] *He can't tell if Prowl's advice was real advice or not.* verdigrisprowl 8:43 pm Well. They'd be in trouble for not locking it up as evidence. NoodlesAtNight 8:43 pm [[And no. You shot Primus. No more large guns for you.]] *To Swerve* Swervester 8:43 pm OF course she knew. rthbb It wasn't on puirpose. verdigrisprowl 8:43 pm Practically speaking, though, they probably wouldn't ACTUALLY get in trouble for it if they gave everyone turns on it. Boomtank 8:44 pm I have a bad feeling about ALL of this NoodlesAtNight 8:44 pm *Soundwave huffs LOUD* [[Should he keep that in mind when presenting the department with such gifts?]] chronosmith 8:44 pm *looks down, amused* Hmm. I've only got one tool to revive you, and it's this terminally spicy drink... *he does not, however, employ the drink to do anything but go down his gullet* badmasteryoujerk 8:44 pm *He's getting kinda sleepy, so he grabs a few more of the cookeis and munches on them, his little head trying to keep upright* NoodlesAtNight 8:44 pm //Oh, lookit that. I'm back to life. Ain't no need to pour none of that down my hatch, nope. 'S a fraggin' miracle.//

[[...If you sleep, do not ooze oral lubricants all over his couch.]] badmasteryoujerk 8:45 pm *he mocks the other, using his hand as a puppet* bleh bleh dont drool on my couch* chronosmith 8:45 pm *snickers* Good. More for me. *another drink* You can stay, though. Need your rest. Swervester 8:45 pm [kicks at the blankets irritably] badmasteryoujerk 8:46 pm *Squeaks and sits upright, glaring up at the other* chronosmith 8:46 pm *sly, sidelong look* You look sleepy, Starscream. A little drink would do wonders to revive you. badmasteryoujerk 8:47 pm I dont need a drink, I DO need that one- *he shoves his hand out and points at Swerve* to not touch me. chronosmith 8:47 pm We got room over here on our couch, Swerve. chronosmith 8:48 pm *gestures grandly; for once he's not sprawled out like a degenerate. There is, indeed, some room* Swervester 8:48 pm I didn't touch, I kicked the blanket because he was being rude. [drops down with Whirl though] badmasteryoujerk 8:48 pm *He glares, letting out a little rumble, before pulling the blanket back over his head and burrowing in deeper* verdigrisprowl 8:49 pm ... Now, Gordon isn't going to do this, and SHOULDN'T do this. However. chronosmith 8:49 pm *welcome to the Whirl Couch, Swerve* Nice. NoodlesAtNight 8:49 pm ((this is my favorite penguin plot like ever)) Swervester 8:49 pm [it's the Cool Couch] chronosmith 8:49 pm Pfft. Boomtank 8:49 pm Oh. Clever. chronosmith 8:49 pm A grenade would solve THAT problem. Swervester 8:49 pm How are they all-- SCProwl 8:49 pm There were like six drawers in that room. How does she not know which ones have bodies in them? He should have been found out immediately. verdigrisprowl 8:49 pm He could deal with a corrupt, manipulative mayor, AND pay Penguin forward for several dozen years worth of debts, just by letting him get in and get at the mayor. badmasteryoujerk 8:50 pm *Little jolt from under the blanket, before he covers his ears and curls up* chronosmith 8:50 pm *snorts* NoodlesAtNight 8:50 pm [[That is what he would consider doing, himself. What Prowl suggested.]]

[[And perhaps she had not come to work yet that day.]] Boomtank 8:51 pm Maybe she was really distracted by him? SCProwl 8:51 pm She was there earlier in the day talking to Jim. NoodlesAtNight 8:51 pm [[Ah. Then she is just sloppy.]] badmasteryoujerk 8:51 pm *He peeks out under the blanket again* Swervester 8:52 pm The way his head jerked. NoodlesAtNight 8:52 pm [[...If he knows, why does he not step aside, or arrest Galavan?]] Boomtank 8:52 pm That could be it verdigrisprowl 8:52 pm Lack of evidence? chronosmith 8:52 pm Quick, someone grab the world's smallest violin. Swervester 8:52 pm Moral center? verdigrisprowl 8:52 pm Planning to use this affair as an excuse to get evidence? NoodlesAtNight 8:53 pm //Plucky's been dead for millennia, mech. Ain't no violin minicons left.// Swervester 8:53 pm There was a violin minicon? verdigrisprowl 8:53 pm "Moral center" doesn't explain the lack of an arrest. badmasteryoujerk 8:53 pm *scoffs* Idiots- if they had just had their little party somewhere else last minute maybe all of them would still be alive. chronosmith 8:53 pm Damn. *tips the Gaugebuster in a toast* To you, Plucky. We're feeling your loss tonight. NoodlesAtNight 8:53 pm *Rumble scoffs.* //Course there was. We're all kindsa stuff.// chronosmith 8:54 pm And because the Penguin didn't finish the job, he put the mayor in a stronger position than before. NoodlesAtNight 8:54 pm [[He had /better/ arrest Galavan. Soon, if not tonight. Letting a corrupt politician like that stand--]] *Bristle.* Swervester 8:54 pm Huh. badmasteryoujerk 8:54 pm EWWWWWWWWWWWWW EEEWWWEWEWEW BLUUHH **coils back under the blanket* Boomtank 8:54 pm He's not thinking wi-oh come on. NoodlesAtNight 8:55 pm [[Oh - now go on, get him.]] Swervester 8:55 pm [chinhands] Selina got there first, though. NoodlesAtNight 8:55 pm [[...Not quite what he wants, but still satisfying.]] Boomtank 8:55 pm ...you don't make that announcement out loud Swervester 8:55 pm Will he ever learn verdigrisprowl 8:55 pm What is with his stupid tendency to TELL the people he's going to be investigating that he's going after them? Boomtank 8:55 pm Nope chronosmith 8:55 pm Not until you've got the means to, y'know. Follow up on your threat. Boomtank 8:56 pm It's stupid And going to get him killed NoodlesAtNight 8:56 pm [[He would swear it is related to his refusal to take backup. A "lone hero" thing, despite what Harvey told him.]] chronosmith 8:56 pm I mean, grandstanding is GOOD and all... but you've got to know when to do it. It's an art. Boomtank 8:57 pm Jim is gonna get.....oh.... badmasteryoujerk 8:57 pm *He whines a little at what he's seeing, before sort of huddling away again* Boomtank 8:57 pm He.....oh. NoodlesAtNight 8:57 pm ((don't worry he's not gonna eat her)) ((...not that it makes it THAT much better, but.)) verdigrisprowl 8:58 pm ((and waste all that perfectly good meat?!)) Swervester 8:58 pm //gfhfg song does it no favors lmao NoodlesAtNight 8:58 pm ((PUFF)) [[Hm. He never knew your alternates to shrink from such sights, Starscream.]] verdigrisprowl 8:58 pm Flashback or fantasy? Boomtank 8:58 pm -puts face in his data-pad- verdigrisprowl 8:58 pm Dream. badmasteryoujerk 8:58 pm I'm not my alternates. *He snaps* NoodlesAtNight 8:58 pm [[...Nightmare, yes.]] Swervester 8:58 pm Ph chronosmith 8:59 pm *snickers, and tosses another sip back* NoodlesAtNight 8:59 pm [[Of course, of course. None of us are.]] verdigrisprowl 8:59 pm *mutters* Pity. badmasteryoujerk 8:59 pm *He's quiet again, just staying beneath the blankets close to himself and the warmth they provided* NoodlesAtNight 9:00 pm *Oh so gently elbows Prowl at the sight of the items on the bed. Ideas ™️.* verdigrisprowl 9:00 pm *a little less gently elbows back* chronosmith 9:01 pm He can raise the dead? Damn. badmasteryoujerk 9:01 pm *Noms his cookies* Boomtank 9:02 pm ((scuse me hacking up a lung NoodlesAtNight 9:02 pm ((same)) verdigrisprowl 9:02 pm For once, he's right. Don't arrest the mayor until and unless you KNOW you can keep him there. NoodlesAtNight 9:03 pm [[Broken cloc-- do they not have anyone watching the damn front doors?]] badmasteryoujerk 9:03 pm Whats wrong with her teeth? *muffled from the cookies* NoodlesAtNight 9:04 pm //Wait, what? Whose teeth? Who's raisin' dead? I look away to tell Frenzy to get outta my fraggin' room 'n I miss all the stuff.// verdigrisprowl 9:04 pm If she refuses to talk to anybody except her ex that she's been stalking and whose new girlfriend she tried to kill, then tell her fine, then you're not going to talk to anyone. badmasteryoujerk 9:04 pm Her teeth are all- *He sits up, wiggling his thin fingers to signify jaggedness* chronosmith 9:04 pm The Big Bad Mayor said he was going to get Bruce Wayne's company by the end of the day, by offering him what he wanted the most. Only way he can do that is if he raises the dead. Swervester 9:05 pm ...Is she faking NoodlesAtNight 9:05 pm *Soundwave turns and shows a few of his many jampacked and not quite straight thin fangs.* [[Is there something wrong with that?]] verdigrisprowl 9:05 pm Whether or not she's faking, she's manipulating. badmasteryoujerk 9:05 pm *he winces and growls* Swervester 9:05 pm Seriously badmasteryoujerk 9:05 pm ewww NoodlesAtNight 9:05 pm //Oh, that kinda dead raisin'. ... Second most want, I guess. Don't think humans could really do that.// Swervester 9:06 pm ...Is it normal to leave her hands free when she's known to be a danger NoodlesAtNight 9:06 pm [[She is, and she's much better at it than he is. We have seen that repeatedly. Why he is fool enough to get sucked into it...]] chronosmith 9:06 pm Yeah. Just a joke. *pauses* ...then again, this is a world with a LOT of superpowers. verdigrisprowl 9:06 pm Is he falling for it that easily, or is he playing along? badmasteryoujerk 9:07 pm *he drops his cookies on accident and lets out a low little whine, slowly wiggling to try and grab them* verdigrisprowl 9:07 pm Good cop, bad cop, lovestruck cop. Swervester 9:07 pm I'm hoping he was playing along, given his actual girlfriend was right there and he had to know NoodlesAtNight 9:07 pm *Soundwave turns back to the screen. He'll have that feeler pick up the cookies for the weird Starscream fleshling.* [[You'll have to have your officers try that. See how it goes.]] chronosmith 9:07 pm Thank you, voice of reason. ...I mean, you can be crazy as hell and still be SMART, jeez. badmasteryoujerk 9:07 pm *His scrawny arms quickly grab the package, before wiggling and pulling them back into his blankets* Swervester 9:08 pm Don't go alone when you know it's a traop, why is he so dumb Boomtank 9:08 pm He's desperate And not thinking verdigrisprowl 9:08 pm *HUFF* Tell you what, if you ever get arrested I'll come make out with you in the interrogation room in exchange for a confession. chronosmith 9:08 pm You just got to have a counter-trap ready. Swervester 9:09 pm [snorts] NoodlesAtNight 9:09 pm *Soundwave considers this.* [[What is the smallest crime he can commit for the least amount of punishment?]] SCProwl 9:09 pm *huffs* badmasteryoujerk 9:09 pm BLUHHH!!! badmasteryoujerk 9:10 pm STOP PUTTING YOUR DIRTY HUMAN FILTHY LIPS ON HIS FACE MEAT!! NoodlesAtNight 9:10 pm *Eyes the Prowl of his own timeline. Don't you laugh. He knows who YOU ran around with.* Swervester 9:10 pm Well, at least he'll have backup chronosmith 9:10 pm See? Counter-trap. In the form of lots and lots of guns. Boomtank 9:10 pm ..... chronosmith 9:11 pm This chief is a man after my own spark. NoodlesAtNight 9:11 pm //My favorite kinda countertrap.// chronosmith 9:11 pm Hell yeah. SCProwl 9:11 pm *smirks in Soundwave's direction* NoodlesAtNight 9:11 pm //Maybe a grenade or two.// verdigrisprowl 9:11 pm ... Well, if you WANT a trip to the interrogation room that badly, skip the crime and punishment and come by sometime after work. Boomtank 9:11 pm -and just going to ignore Soundwave and his Prowl- badmasteryoujerk 9:11 pm *yawwwwn, he sort of stretches, before recoiling again and munching on his cookeis* Boomtank 9:11 pm -by doing paperwork- NoodlesAtNight 9:12 pm *Tiiiiiiny biolight increase. He'll just nod and, uh. Let that sit there. Yep. That's an acknowledgment.*

[[Slow down, Bruce.]] [[You do not have the experience necessary to kill someone of that caliber.]] SCProwl 9:13 pm At least Lee knows better than to fall for this. NoodlesAtNight 9:13 pm *Yes, this is his argument. Not that he shouldn't kill him. Just that he probably can't yet.* chronosmith 9:13 pm Yeah, like. She's being very calm and professional about it all. Seems like less of a bubblehead than last season. verdigrisprowl 9:13 pm ... I've suspected since we found out about his grudge that he was behind the murder of Brace's parents. I'm nearly completely convinced, at this point. chronosmith 9:13 pm Soundwave, he's rich, though, he can hire someone to do it. NoodlesAtNight 9:14 pm //Prob'ly gettin' used to all this scrap by now. The Lee fleshie.//

[[Yes, it makes sense.]] verdigrisprowl 9:14 pm Currently? I think he's going to give Brace his parents' killer, LET him kill him, and then get him arrested. SCProwl 9:14 pm Jim's also painfully predictable. Swervester 9:14 pm Is Bruce not allowed to fire the board? Swervester 9:15 pm I don't get human business Boomtank 9:15 pm Say no Bruce NoodlesAtNight 9:15 pm [[He is too young. And if he fires them before he finds out what they know...]] [[At least there he can keep an eye on them for now.]] NoodlesAtNight 9:16 pm //So how's HE know that?// badmasteryoujerk 9:16 pm *He grabs the blanket and wiggles to the edge of his couch, plopping down to the floor, the blanket following. He scuttled with it across the room towards the other rooms* Boomtank 9:16 pm Say no NoodlesAtNight 9:16 pm *There are no other rooms. The bottom floor is just one big nightclub and the second floor is sealed off by a heavy duty door with no keypad or handle.* Boomtank 9:16 pm Kid, he's manipulating you Swervester 9:16 pm Don't listen to hiiim verdigrisprowl 9:17 pm Grab the envelope and run. badmasteryoujerk 9:17 pm *Tiny boy is gonna try to wiggle through- but he wont accomplish much, just sort of fiddle with the creases of the door* Swervester 9:17 pm Not in the car with you, Barb NoodlesAtNight 9:17 pm //Faster reflexes, kid.// NoodlesAtNight 9:17 pm [[Who's not in the car?]] Swervester 9:17 pm His spirit of adventure NoodlesAtNight 9:18 pm [[Ahh. No. No it is not.]] ((i want that coat y'all.)) Swervester 9:18 pm IS now the time for dinking chronosmith 9:18 pm Oh my god. All this time... I never knew. This is Blurr's origin story. badmasteryoujerk 9:18 pm *waddles through the room to the snack table, which he starts to scale* Swervester 9:18 pm OH my god chronosmith 9:18 pm *drapes a claw over his spark* SCProwl 9:18 pm What? NoodlesAtNight 9:18 pm //Wha?// chronosmith 9:18 pm Y'know, Teach. Having a date with a corpse. chronosmith 9:19 pm And murdering someone on the date. NoodlesAtNight 9:19 pm [[Brilliant. /Now/ what are you going to bury him with.]] verdigrisprowl 9:19 pm Does he really date them, too? Swervester 9:19 pm What did he even see that tipped him off it was weird??? I didn't see NoodlesAtNight 9:19 pm //...Is, uh. Is that - really true?// badmasteryoujerk 9:19 pm **wiggles up onto the table and starts eating all the snacks** **content** verdigrisprowl 9:19 pm The makeshift coffin. chronosmith 9:19 pm I mean, as far as I can tell, yeah. NoodlesAtNight 9:19 pm [[Ah. There was a bloody section of plastic poking out.]] chronosmith 9:20 pm He's got living beaus, too, though. Swervester 9:20 pm Oh. I didn't see the bloody plastic. chronosmith 9:20 pm SHE'S the one who left! NoodlesAtNight 9:20 pm *Rumble points* //I love doin' that.//

[[He knows. He does not love it when you do that.]] chronosmith 9:20 pm Hm? Doing what? NoodlesAtNight 9:21 pm //Pretendin' the line's breakin' up when ya get told to do somethin' you don't wanna.// badmasteryoujerk 9:21 pm **Squeals** chronosmith 9:21 pm Oh, pfft. They didn't have a chopper on him? Amateurs. badmasteryoujerk 9:21 pm IS HE DEAD!? OH HES NOT DEAD NoodlesAtNight 9:21 pm ((i always know the truck is coming and it STILL startles me)) badmasteryoujerk 9:21 pm okay verdigrisprowl 9:21 pm ((i don't give a CRASSH)) NoodlesAtNight 9:22 pm //Unsanitationary.// SCProwl 9:22 pm ((augh i forgot that happened chronosmith 9:22 pm How hilarious would it have been if he'd pulled the trigger when she got to the word "gonna?" Because, in my book--very hilarious. badmasteryoujerk 9:23 pm *He murrs and sort of climbs into the chip bowl* verdigrisprowl 9:23 pm Quote from man who was stabbed: Swervester 9:23 pm .... Why can't he make it bigger verdigrisprowl 9:23 pm "What are you gonna do, stab me?" chronosmith 9:23 pm *snickers* Oh damn, he's going to get eaten by a bear. NoodlesAtNight 9:24 pm *Soundwave is busy shaking like a leaf at Prowl and Whirl's commentary. Mostly Prowl's. He's trying to give Whirl a bit of a wide space.* //Thought bears was into honey.// badmasteryoujerk 9:25 pm Why did they give a child so much power? Why not that old human? chronosmith 9:25 pm Far as I know, they also eat meat, right? That guy was hunting SOMETHING. And if you eat meat, I figure a rotting corpse smells like a five-course meal. NoodlesAtNight 9:25 pm [[...He would ask if you needed to be in the chip bowl, but he supposes you do at that size. Do be sure to take them with you when youleave.]] badmasteryoujerk 9:25 pm Isnt he more intelligent? Boomtank 9:25 pm ((what'd I miss? NoodlesAtNight 9:25 pm ((where'd you leave off)) chronosmith 9:25 pm Also, Prowl, are you telling a joke or is that literally something from your case files? Boomtank 9:25 pm ((um... verdigrisprowl 9:25 pm It's a news report I saw once. Boomtank 9:26 pm ((after Jim said he was going to continue despite being told to get out chronosmith 9:26 pm Thank Heqet. It being real makes it even more hilarious. *toasts again. Whether he's toasting Heqet, or the guy, or the news report, is a mystery* NoodlesAtNight 9:26 pm ((Theo's convincing Bruce to sell his company in exchange for the name of his parents' murderer, Jim fell for Babs' trap and got himself into a car crack/anesthetized, Nygma went to bury Kristen and killed a hunter who found them. He then had to go get something to fit them into the same hole and returned to find out that someone had eaten his sandwich, so went off to find THEM.)) Boomtank 9:27 pm ((oh fun NoodlesAtNight 9:27 pm ((...crash not crack)) badmasteryoujerk 9:27 pm *He sort of places his chin on the ridge of the bowl, a little smile on his face* SCProwl 9:27 pm ((it occurs to me that bruce being a minor means anything he'd sign probably wouldn't be legal and binding? NoodlesAtNight 9:27 pm ((it would be if he got alfred to approve of it)) Boomtank 9:27 pm ((true SCProwl 9:27 pm ((fair point, though i hardly think alfred would allow it NoodlesAtNight 9:27 pm ((but theo wouldn't know that.)) NoodlesAtNight 9:28 pm //Shotgun weddin'! So that's what that means.// SCProwl 9:28 pm ((true true chronosmith 9:28 pm I mean, it's a good look. NoodlesAtNight 9:28 pm //Pit yeah. Dress ain't good for fightin' in, but maybe if the enemies was standin' far away.// chronosmith 9:29 pm Well, that's what the bridesmaids are for. verdigrisprowl 9:29 pm Honestly, I can't imagine how humans fight in clothes anyway. badmasteryoujerk 9:29 pm Its not hard~ SCProwl 9:29 pm I suppose they must be used to them. badmasteryoujerk 9:29 pm Its just like having a separate skin. verdigrisprowl 9:29 pm It seems like it would be very restrictive. badmasteryoujerk 9:29 pm only above your plating chronosmith 9:30 pm Sounds like a pain in the ass. SCProwl 9:30 pm That sounds aggravating. badmasteryoujerk 9:30 pm Oh it is~ Especially in the lower regions NoodlesAtNight 9:30 pm //Wouldn't it jus' catch in everythin'? Make it real easy t'get grabbed?// badmasteryoujerk 9:31 pm Yes, but its like... chronosmith 9:31 pm Hell yeah, drunk cop figuring it out! badmasteryoujerk 9:31 pm having a blanket on all the time. chronosmith 9:31 pm Blankets sound like a pain in the ass, too, though. *peers* But I guess if you're not very pointy, it's no big deal. NoodlesAtNight 9:31 pm //Blankets ain't good if you gotta move.// badmasteryoujerk 9:31 pm *A sly little smirk as he hides in the chip bowl* chronosmith 9:32 pm She's a shrink, THAT'S how she knows. NoodlesAtNight 9:33 pm @P: [[...There isn't anyone who's going to come be like her, is there?]] verdigrisprowl 9:33 pm "Oh Lee, you can't possibly know who he is because he doesn't know who he is, and yet somehow I know who he is despite the same reasoning." NoodlesAtNight 9:33 pm *If he has to be prepared to get wheeled into a religious facility so Chromedome can act weird at them, he'd like to know.* chronosmith 9:33 pm (9I'm really enjoying Barbara's actress, she's hamming it up and she's a load of fun)) Boomtank 9:33 pm ((I am...getting a bit drunk, my bad verdigrisprowl 9:33 pm That was my Barbara impression. chronosmith 9:34 pm *snickers again* Prowl, you've got to put on the dress to sell it. NoodlesAtNight 9:34 pm *Rumble applauds.* //On the money, my mech. On the money.// SCProwl 9:34 pm ((babs is the best chronosmith 9:34 pm And we need to get you a sawed-off. badmasteryoujerk 9:34 pm *Little chirp, wearily shrinking into the bowl* Swervester 9:34 pm //she's very into the yandere act i'm dying verdigrisprowl 9:34 pm @S «The biggest risk of that was Tarantulas.» NoodlesAtNight 9:35 pm @P: [[Ah. Then that is unlikely. Good.]] chronosmith 9:35 pm Once again, should've shot her while she was having her little monologue. badmasteryoujerk 9:35 pm Mmmph. Stupid. NoodlesAtNight 9:35 pm //For real.// badmasteryoujerk 9:35 pm Shes' going to jump out the window. Swervester 9:35 pm Does she want him to do it, honestly? verdigrisprowl 9:36 pm ((see, i like yanderes. I am very pro-yandere.)) SCProwl 9:36 pm Or fall out one. NoodlesAtNight 9:36 pm //Maybe. Sometimes people get like that.// verdigrisprowl 9:36 pm ((barbara's just annoying.)) Boomtank 9:36 pm ........... verdigrisprowl 9:36 pm Pity. Boomtank 9:36 pm Yikes... badmasteryoujerk 9:36 pm *he wiggles out of the chips, dumps them a little on his way out by dragging the blanket over the bowl* NoodlesAtNight 9:37 pm *Soundwave rubs his crest in frustration. He's going to get a very small box and lock that Starscream in it next time.* badmasteryoujerk 9:37 pm *he leaps off the table and rolls until he's on his feet* *he's spilled a few cheese puffs* Swervester 9:37 pm He's gonna be dead by now. Oh. He's alive. NoodlesAtNight 9:38 pm ((....what cheese puffs? they're cybertronians)) [[Don't sign, boy.]] badmasteryoujerk 9:38 pm (( 😉 energon cheesepuffs)) Swervester 9:38 pm //i'm trying to pictue energon cheesepuffs badmasteryoujerk 9:38 pm ((jk im just blabbering)) verdigrisprowl 9:38 pm And that's where the police bust in? Or that. Ah. Close. NoodlesAtNight 9:38 pm [[Or both.]] Swervester 9:38 pm Oh. NoodlesAtNight 9:38 pm //Aw, no, c'mon-- the file--!// SCProwl 9:39 pm ((i'm picturing like balls of fiberglass tbh badmasteryoujerk 9:39 pm ((PFTT Swervester 9:39 pm Are we sure this isn't part of his act. PLan. Plan and act Boomtank 9:39 pm . . . chronosmith 9:39 pm Guess it wasn't a bear. Swervester 9:39 pm Shame Boomtank 9:39 pm This series is just... chronosmith 9:40 pm Shame. Would have been funny to watch him fighting one of THOSE off--oh it's THAT guy. NoodlesAtNight 9:40 pm //Huh. Never heard of no penguins livin' in the woods.// chronosmith 9:40 pm *snickers* Boomtank 9:40 pm Oh. Oh wow... NoodlesAtNight 9:40 pm ((OuO it Begins)) SCProwl 9:41 pm Political climate change caused them to migrate further south. verdigrisprowl 9:41 pm ((im looking forward to finally liking edward)) Swervester 9:41 pm [snorts] NoodlesAtNight 9:41 pm [[....He is tempted to ban you for that.]] *Pause.* [[Unfortunately, it is too entertaining.]] verdigrisprowl 9:42 pm Are puns against the rules? NoodlesAtNight 9:42 pm [[No. Not strictly.]] NoodlesAtNight 9:43 pm ((i love The Lady's hair)) badmasteryoujerk 9:43 pm *He's just. Gonna sit out of the way...* verdigrisprowl 9:43 pm ((i wouldn't mind wearing that hair)) chronosmith 9:43 pm ((I love The Lady's whole THING rn she's slick as hell)) SCProwl 9:43 pm I'll try harder next time. verdigrisprowl 9:43 pm ((... it actually IS pretty close to that style, i'm just bad at taming my waves.)) NoodlesAtNight 9:43 pm ((i'd say life goals but i don't wanna be a criminal)) chronosmith 9:43 pm *toasts SCProwl* That's the spirit. NoodlesAtNight 9:44 pm ((needle approaches)) SCProwl 9:44 pm ((something to do for a very fun event perhaps, Puff? verdigrisprowl 9:44 pm ((put on a suit and become an assassin? tempting.)) NoodlesAtNight 9:44 pm ((LMAO)) SCProwl 9:44 pm ((yes definitely NoodlesAtNight 9:46 pm [[No. No, you didn't.]] NoodlesAtNight 9:49 pm ((THIS SCENE)) Swervester 9:50 pm //etregbfg verdigrisprowl 9:50 pm *shoulders shake* Boomtank 9:50 pm ... Swervester 9:50 pm [snickers] SCProwl 9:50 pm *laughs* Boomtank 9:51 pm -muffled laughter- NoodlesAtNight 9:51 pm [[Fascinating.]] *He'll have to get his claws on some and test it out himself.* chronosmith 9:52 pm Man. A night where every assassion of some super secret organization is out to get me? Sounds like a good fraggin night. NoodlesAtNight 9:52 pm //Dream come true, huh?// chronosmith 9:52 pm Hell yeah it is! NoodlesAtNight 9:54 pm //Three's like a slow day for the Penguin, heh.// verdigrisprowl 9:54 pm Mhm. SCProwl 9:55 pm Three before breakfast given his habit of stabbing anyone that offends him. NoodlesAtNight 9:55 pm [[Four if breakfast if someone else's sandwich.]] chronosmith 9:55 pm Gotta start somewhere, right? *toasts the concept of starting somewhere by murdering three people and tips his drink back* badmasteryoujerk 9:57 pm ((im gonna... (head off ;0;)) chronosmith 9:57 pm ((gnight!)) NoodlesAtNight 9:57 pm ((okiedokie. happy new year's!)) badmasteryoujerk 9:57 pm ((you tooo NoodlesAtNight 9:57 pm [[At least she is thorough.]] verdigrisprowl 9:57 pm Smart policy. If one person can't do the job, don't send one more and then another. Send everyone. chronosmith 9:57 pm All these assassinations are so high-profile though. I mean, if you really want to get someone, REALLY really? NoodlesAtNight 9:57 pm ((did it just die)) verdigrisprowl 9:58 pm ((still good here)) Swervester 9:58 pm //fine here chronosmith 9:58 pm Use those awesome assassin infiltration skills and slip some poison into his food. Boomtank 9:58 pm ((all good chronosmith 9:58 pm ((good here!)) NoodlesAtNight 9:58 pm *Makes a note to scan all the energon in the bar after Whirl is gone.* Swervester 9:58 pm This is the least assassiny assassining I've ever seen verdigrisprowl 9:59 pm Gotham isn't known for its subtlety. NoodlesAtNight 9:59 pm [[Hit men, not assassins. Bit of a difference.]] Boomtank 9:59 pm No, it really isn't Swervester 9:59 pm Oh well. Yeah that makes sense. NoodlesAtNight 9:59 pm //Whirl, don't look.// NoodlesAtNight 9:59 pm ((mun types too slow ahaha)) chronosmith 9:59 pm ...I'll be fine. *switches to comms, he slipped up there* @R: I'm fine. I'm fine. NoodlesAtNight 9:59 pm ((also that was supposed to be an @ whoop)) chronosmith 10:00 pm ((oh WHOP well... let me edit rq. Because one will and one won't be)) Swervester 10:00 pm Oh. chronosmith 10:01 pm Did he just.. bring this guy the gift of murdering someone who pissed him off? Is that what he's doing? SCProwl 10:01 pm He did. NoodlesAtNight 10:01 pm //Huh. Kinda sweet.// chronosmith 10:02 pm Is he trying to LEARN from this guy or trying to COURT him? Because yeah that's just. That's a heartfelt gesture right there. Boomtank 10:02 pm He's...worrying me The Ed guy NoodlesAtNight 10:02 pm //Aww, rejected.// NoodlesAtNight 10:02 pm [[He worries everyone, he thinks.]] chronosmith 10:02 pm Tragic. verdigrisprowl 10:02 pm *Prowl feels like this is how Wreckers flirt.* SCProwl 10:03 pm *is absolutely certain this is how Dinobots flirt* chronosmith 10:03 pm *it's definitely how SOME Wreckers flirt* NoodlesAtNight 10:03 pm *Soundwave tilts his head. He doesn't know this song. Is it important?* Boomtank 10:03 pm Just a bit..... NoodlesAtNight 10:03 pm //THAT'S Blurr.// chronosmith 10:03 pm Yep. There he is! Our one and only. *drapes a claw over his spark again* NoodlesAtNight 10:03 pm //Maybe if the li'l fur thingie was blue insteada pink.// verdigrisprowl 10:04 pm ((my first thought was "really? raw? not gonna cook it? not even gonna wash it off??")) chronosmith 10:04 pm Yeah. But I bet Blurr could pull of pink. Color of energon, and all. ((SAUTEE IT WITH GARLIC AND OLIVE OIL)) verdigrisprowl 10:05 pm ((at least get off the earwax, yeesh)) NoodlesAtNight 10:05 pm ((internet died)) ((oh EW)) chronosmith 10:05 pm ((WB!)) verdigrisprowl 10:06 pm See, I don't necessarily think wanting to pull the trigger means he has an inner monster. I think that's a rational reaction to Barbara's presence. NoodlesAtNight 10:06 pm [[Ha.]] chronosmith 10:06 pm I mean yeah, he was just solving a problem. A big, mouthy, Barbara-shaped problem. Boomtank 10:07 pm -dead silence from Blaster- NoodlesAtNight 10:07 pm [[Hmm.]] verdigrisprowl 10:07 pm Intriguing philosophy. Swervester 10:07 pm Wouldn't that make the law the line? verdigrisprowl 10:08 pm It would. NoodlesAtNight 10:08 pm [[But there is no /natural/ line is what he is saying.]] *Oh! The song again. What is it?* Boomtank 10:09 pm -oh his silence is about what the man said he did, not philosophy- verdigrisprowl 10:09 pm Memory. Hah. NoodlesAtNight 10:09 pm [[Nicely done.]] verdigrisprowl 10:09 pm Penguin solved it too, so I figure it's not THAT impressive. Swervester 10:10 pm I feel like all of Gotham needs therapy at this point. NoodlesAtNight 10:11 pm [[An honest statement.]] chronosmith 10:11 pm I mean, DUH. No prizes for that one, Eddie. chronosmith 10:12 pm And no prizes for this one, either--of course someone with nothing to lose is going to be more dangerous. verdigrisprowl 10:12 pm Depends on the circumstances. Boomtank 10:13 pm ..... chronosmith 10:13 pm *tilts his head at VProwl, and gestures with his free claw in a "go on" motion* Boomtank 10:13 pm He's...ugh verdigrisprowl 10:14 pm Someone with nothing to lose won't fight half as ferociously as, say, someone with one thing to lose. NoodlesAtNight 10:14 pm [[At least this time he has something of a point. His presence endangers both of them.]] chronosmith 10:14 pm Possibly. Depends on a few things, I'd say. Spite is a hell of a thing. Swervester 10:14 pm Humans have a thing about cornered rats, too. chronosmith 10:14 pm Though I guess you could argue that someone who's fighting out of pure unfiltered homicidal anger might have something to lose--revenge, or something. Swervester 10:14 pm Whihc... I don't remember right now. verdigrisprowl 10:15 pm Perhaps it depends on the mech. chronosmith 10:15 pm But it wouldn't do you any good if the one thing the person has to lose is you living through the fight. Probably. *another toast, this time, it's anyone's guess, Whirl is nearly done with that drink, and down it goes* NoodlesAtNight 10:16 pm //Aw, c'mon, Jim. Don't.// verdigrisprowl 10:16 pm Don't do that. Huh. He didn't do that. NoodlesAtNight 10:16 pm [[He supposes something Barnes said stuck.]] chronosmith 10:16 pm Piss-poor assassins. NoodlesAtNight 10:17 pm *Rumble squints at that smile.* verdigrisprowl 10:17 pm ... I can't fight for spite. Swervester 10:17 pm Best assassins doesn't seem worth much if they lost to like, one guy NoodlesAtNight 10:17 pm //Oh! Oh! He's givin' it a shot!// chronosmith 10:18 pm Yeah, that's straight up romance, right there. That doesn't surprise me, Prowl. You're not the type. NoodlesAtNight 10:18 pm [[The Lady's lackeys do seem to be on the shoddy side. Must be skimping on paying the best to keep up the atmosphere.]] //I can totally fight for spite.// NoodlesAtNight 10:18 pm @P: [[He is better with at least one left. In support of your comment.]] NoodlesAtNight 10:19 pm [[They should have muzzled him.]] Boomtank 10:19 pm .... chronosmith 10:19 pm I made a career out of fighting for spite. Boomtank 10:19 pm Wasn't expecting that.... verdigrisprowl 10:20 pm You certainly did. chronosmith 10:20 pm *another toast* *this time, he announces it* To spite! verdigrisprowl 10:20 pm What does he mean, "tonight"? "Tonight" he almost crossed the line? He crosses multiple lines almost every time we see him. NoodlesAtNight 10:21 pm //...Kinda hope they clammed the Flamingo guy up before stickin' him in lockup with a buncha other guys.// NoodlesAtNight 10:21 pm [[Indeed he does.]] chronosmith 10:22 pm Man, it's almost like taking the guy out would mean... *mock gasp* less victims? Less VICTIMS for him to kill? Should've offed him in the fight and claimed self-defense. verdigrisprowl 10:22 pm Putting a muzzle on him would have achieved the same results. NoodlesAtNight 10:22 pm ((i'd offer to go to 10 tonight so y'all see bruce in a bit of a pickle and we don't have to split 12 and 13 next week but i expect y'all are tired and got new year's plans lol)) Boomtank 10:23 pm ...... That went badly verdigrisprowl 10:23 pm There is a problem in how they handled him, and the problem is not that Gym should have murdered the already-defeated culprit. The problem is that they did not properly secure him. chronosmith 10:23 pm Yeah, he should have murdered him as PART of the defeat. verdigrisprowl 10:24 pm Nnnnno. chronosmith 10:24 pm *shrugs* I think if someone comes to assassinate you, they've made themselves fair game. NoodlesAtNight 10:25 pm ((time marker: 10:45)) verdigrisprowl 10:26 pm ... Okay that technically has some legal basis. SCProwl 10:26 pm I'm going to head back now. I have plans. NoodlesAtNight 10:26 pm [[Oh? Enjoy them, Prowl.]] Boomtank 10:26 pm Good night! verdigrisprowl 10:27 pm Evening, alternate. SCProwl 10:27 pm Evening, everyone. *heads out* chronosmith 10:27 pm *one final toast, for legal basis. And then he drains his drink* NoodlesAtNight 10:28 pm [[Oh, yes, it would, wouldn't it? Self-defense?]] verdigrisprowl 10:28 pm Self-defense, yes. Boomtank 10:29 pm Yeah, if someone's trying to kill you, you're generally not thinking about not killing them chronosmith 10:29 pm Yeah. Might have missed it, but I did say self-defense earlier. verdigrisprowl 10:29 pm However: if you KEEP trying to kill them after they've stopped or being capable of trying to kill you—which is the situation we're talking about—it's illegal. NoodlesAtNight 10:29 pm *Rewinds and checks.* [[Ah! So you did. He apologizes.]] chronosmith 10:30 pm *stares blankly at Soundwave for a moment and shrugs* That's why you gotta do it in the middle of it. NoodlesAtNight 10:30 pm *Hey. He doesn't need to make Whirl any angrier by stepping on his words.* chronosmith 10:31 pm *Whirl, who has no idea Soundwave thinks he is angry, is just a bit off-balance* Anyway. I gotta make it back again. Need to see what happens, and all. chronosmith 10:32 pm See you losers later. And you, too. *nudges Rumble, as usual, excluding him from the "losers" category. Privileges* NoodlesAtNight 10:32 pm //Yeah! We gotta see what them monks're doin'.// NoodlesAtNight 10:32 pm *Nudges Whirl back and grins.* //Maybe I'll bring ya a punchin' bag.// verdigrisprowl 10:32 pm ... While technically not illegal, I severely object to the idea of using an assassination attempt as an excuse to use unnecessary excessive force. verdigrisprowl 10:33 pm And by "technically not illegal" I mean "actually definitely illegal, but next to impossible to prove or easily legally define." chronosmith 10:33 pm If you wanna. I've got some stuff done on the ship. You can drop by, y'know. Whenever. *he pauses, blinks, as a thought occurs to him* Oh damn, I need to--Prowl. I'm going to bring my tire next session. chronosmith 10:34 pm Still haven't figured out how to talk to it except for the most basic stuff. NoodlesAtNight 10:34 pm //Yeah? I'm down for that.// *He wants to see!* chronosmith 10:34 pm *he will bob his head at Rumble* verdigrisprowl 10:34 pm Oh—good. We'll try to figure that out. Boomtank 10:35 pm Right. I'm going home now. Thanks for the show. Good night. NoodlesAtNight 10:36 pm [[Goodnight, Blaster.]] chronosmith 10:36 pm *and he will extricate himself from Rumble and the couch* See you guys next week, probably. *he'll drop off the cup on the way out* NoodlesAtNight 10:36 pm //Seeya!// *Rumble will go grab that and run it into the recycling.* Swervester 10:36 pm I better head out too. Night everyone. Boomtank 10:37 pm ((good night and happy new year! Swervester 10:37 pm //u too NoodlesAtNight 10:37 pm [[Goodnight, Swerve.]] ((that people use this song for marriage proposals makes me laugh but that's neither here nor there)) ((well not THIS one but anyway)) NoodlesAtNight 10:38 pm [[He really does hope Jim gets his act together soon.]] verdigrisprowl 10:39 pm It's not looking likely. NoodlesAtNight 10:39 pm *Tiny vent.* [[No. No, it isn't.]] verdigrisprowl 10:40 pm He just seemingly had all his worst impulses validated and reinforced. NoodlesAtNight 10:41 pm [[Because Officer Parks died?]] *Nodding.* verdigrisprowl 10:41 pm Mhm. verdigrisprowl 10:42 pm There's not a chance he isn't taking the opportunity to tell himself "I should just kill any future criminals I cross paths with without arresting and without due process to prevent more innocent deaths." NoodlesAtNight 10:42 pm [[What would it take, do you think, to prove to him that is not the way?]] verdigrisprowl 10:43 pm Hm. Him killing an innocent. NoodlesAtNight 10:45 pm *Shakes his head.* [[He hopes it will not come to that. But you may well be right.]]

[[And the Captain? Where does your opinion of him stand now?]] *Soundwave can't make up his mind, himself. There are things the fleshling does that bother the Pit out of him and things he does that make him want to sigh in relief at the lack of corruption. It's a strange place to be in.* verdigrisprowl 10:46 pm ... Mixed. verdigrisprowl 10:47 pm Where does yours? NoodlesAtNight 10:51 pm [[Mixed as well. If Barnes would stop treating it as a damned /war/ - and if he had given those poor recruits a slower introduction to Gotham... But his determination to do things the right way reminds him of you, in a sense.]] *Chews on his lip for a moment.* [[But not enough.]]

[[He does not mean to embarrass, but presently he thinks you are still the best Captain he has encountered. Barnes could learn from you. It is a pity he can't.]] verdigrisprowl 10:51 pm I imagine most of my competition is poor. NoodlesAtNight 10:53 pm [[So, so much of it.]] *Huffing.* [[Well. We will have to wait to see if he abandons his military spin. In the meantime, he'd like to clean up, and then see if we can't replicate the Barbara human's bed setting - unless you have other plans for the night?]] verdigrisprowl 10:54 pm That sounds like an excellent plan. Can I help clean? NoodlesAtNight 10:55 pm [[Of course. He encourages you to try to treat the recycling bin as a distance target, if you'd like.]] *Pats Prowl's knee and rises to attend to scanning the energon, being that he's paranoid about Whirl. They'll meet up somewhere in the middle of it.* verdigrisprowl 10:58 pm *stares at the bin. oh, now Prowl is going to be throwing objects in the bin all night.* NoodlesAtNight 10:58 pm *You know what? That, too, is perfectly fine. He'll have a captive audience.*

[flagellant]

Hi! Thank you for responding in a well thought out and considerate manner even if you disagreed with some of the points! That takes guts and I appreciate it. I'll try and clear up some misinfo on my end--didn't exactly expect this post to start getting notes necessarily.

1. While I was able to find an old paper on the culture of sexual violence in men's prisons for someone else (and forgive me but I'm not gonna bother rehunting it down, bc), I am also going to say it took me WAY more effort to find it than it should have. I don't know if this is simply a matter of the results getting drowned out due to large numbers--which is unfortunately a possibility, given how search engines work--but it's also something that while I firmly remember learning about, I cannot provide meaningful sources and so I am going to walk that claim back solely on the grounds of not being able to properly defend it. "Trust me guys I read it once" is, uh. While it's accurate it's also not actually something anyone should literally ever listen to.

2. Gonna go ahead and pass over this point you made with just a polite thank you! I don't really have much to add.

3. This is the part I definitely want to respond to the most, because I feel like I need to clear up the wording and how it was perceived. I definitely do not blame modern feminism entirely for misandry's growing popularity and acceptability. As stated in the original post I'm literally a feminist so that would be dumb.

However--due to the nature of purity culture in modern social media/social justice, and the already mentioned difficulty of defending "please stop saying all men are trash" because you're pretty much immediately gonna get "thats what trash would say", there is a very firm social stance which supports debasing and hurting men under the guise of feminism. While the roots of why men can't express emotions as such is a culture of toxic masculinity and a hyperpatriarchal idea of """"manliness"""", those roots are fed and allowed to grow by the uncritical thinking--and occasional flat out full-chested doing it on purpose--that "men are trash" and "all men are bad" and "omg i'm so sorry for liking a man" mentality within feminism as a subculture. Feminism is not the base of the problem and I never want anyone to believe that. But I do feel it is disingenuous for any of us to pretend we haven't seen a whole lot of "feminist" memes and takes and jokes revolving around the idea of women somehow being innately better than men by virtue of not being a man, acting as though manhood is some sort of original sin--because sure, maybe he didn't rape someone, and maybe he didn't defend any rapists, and maybe he's the perfect ally...but he's still a man. You can even see this in certain talking points: the idea that you have to apologize and defend yourself as a woman feminist for the crime of being in any form of relationship with a man.

This is all rooted in misandry and purity culture, and you're absolutely right with your final point. The solution is the same. The systemic bigotry of a societal system which enforces gender roles to such an extent will inevitably cause those trying to escape those roles to react in a way which, in the end, merely further feeds the paradigm. A woman wants to show how woke she is and therefore ensures every woman around her knows just how much of an enlightened feminist she is...by telling them how terrible all men are, all the time. I normally try and prevent strawmanesque phrasings but...well, again, we can't keep pretending we all don't know or haven't seen these people. We can't all keep acting as though this is not a serious part of the modern internet feminist aesthetic.

So yeah. I fully agree with you actually on all your points--and I'm glad you responded!

I could make a post about how misandry actually is real and does genuinely greatly hurt men of all kinds--yes, even the cis/het ones--but I don't know if I wanna kick the hornet's nest this week.

[professorfaber]

I'm interested to see what you have to say about my communism paragraph.

To point out the Healthcare Man, me personally? No, I have not been able to do that for years on end due to my age, however several people over the years have been pointing out the issues within Marvel media as well as general superhero media. Including Healthcare Man. I wasn't trying to seem like I was disagreeing. I think that part got deleted, apologies. (I had made note that the paragraph was no way intended to be directed at you, more as like an agreement and that the situation was kinda dumb.) As for the memes, yeah could definitely do without those, I'm tired of seeing them. (Also wow do I agree with the statement that Marvel are incompetent cowards. Oof Marvel, step up or clear out.)

The WandaVision thing, g o d s don't get me started on the bs they pulled. Consumer activism definitely doesn't work in this situation, I wish that situation was handled differently. For the centrist fearmongering, it could potentially have to due with the fact it's a common piece of media. I'm sure as you know, the more x is in the media, the more people seem to think x is ok. The memes would contribute by someone taking it lightly or not thinking it's a serious issue. Only mocking it to go with the crowd and not looking at the situation through a critical lens, barely even scratching the surface level on the issue.

As for the statement of "Marvel is problematic" I'd say in this day-in-age, it needs to be worded like that because it catches people's attention. Do I personally agree with it, no. But it's necessary to catch an audience so something can be done. As long as the person using that statement has an actual argument, I think it should be used. I see where you are coming from though. Also I hope I haven't come off aggressive or rude, if I didn't address your other points it's because I agree with them. I'd also like to apologize, my tone often comes off as argumentative when I just mean to have a conversation. I hope you are havin a good day.

Thank you for clarifying all of this! I think we agree on a lot more than I initially thought (and no, you haven't come off as rude, don't worry). And thank you for sending an ask instead of adding on to an already very long post. I hope you're having a good day too.

Okay, point by point (this might be pretty long, sorry, I'm like. allergic to brevity but I do try):

1. The communism paragraph. First of all, I'm allowed to make snide remarks about liberals on my own blog on tumblr dot com without it harming The Cause. My post was not directed at liberals, and very few people, if any, that I engage with on this website are liberals so I wasn't hugely concerned about watching my language. Normally I would agree with you that it's important to do outreach, but it's my personal blog and I make the rules. Also:

"liberal this, republican that", both side are are horrible in their own ways but we still need the people.

Okay so, this is tricky because sometimes when I say "liberal" I do mean it in the modern, especially American, sense of social liberalism that the Democratic Party (ostensibly) adheres to, and that was kind of what I meant in the original post, but Republicans are also liberals, just of a slightly different ideological strand. In America today both parties are primarily dominated by centrist and rightist factions, with the original American left (i.e. socialists, anarchists, trade unionists, social democrats) being essentially squeezed out of political discourse over the past century. It's less an instance of "both sides are horrible" than "one side is horrible, but it's being presented in two flavors".

Also, I never said I was a communist and I actually usually don't politically identify as such, but I can see why you'd make that assumption based on the kind of things I post.

2. I think I get where you're coming from on this better than I did at first and I'm sorry for being dismissive about the memes. It did not occur to me that casually shitting on a massive corporation's ridiculous propaganda could be an issue in that way. Like, to me it was less "people all of a sudden realizing that Marvel is bad" than it was just a continuation of people criticizing Marvel as before, but you've honestly made me reconsider and I'm sorry if those sorts of jokes are frustrating or annoying. They honestly seemed like completely innocuous leftist tumblr memes to me, in the vein of jokes about any other shitty company ("shitty company" is kind of redundant I think but you know what I mean). But yeah, you've convinced me. I'll stop reblogging them if that helps.

3. This was a bit confusing to me? I understand being personally upset by the memes, but the notion that they normalize and contribute to corporations using propaganda to nullify left-wing ideas is kind of odd. Companies like Marvel and its parent Disney make those sorts of characters and storylines because it is in their interests to do so, and it will continue to be for as long as capitalism exists. What I called "centrist fearmongering" is like, a function of their existence as capitalist entities with immense power to manipulate public opinion in their favor, and what you or I post on tumblr really does not have an effect on that.

Capital shapes public opinion, not the other way around. That's one of the big reasons consumer activism doesn't work.

4. I've gotta disagree with you here, honestly, though I should say upfront that I'm not like, super invested in whether people call Marvel problematic or not. My original post was just a rant, no one is obliged to listen to me, I don't care about this nearly that much.

However, if we are going to have that conversation, then I will say that while it is important to attract an audience, using patently misleading or reductive language is the wrong way to do it, even if you also have a solid argument. I might also note that the problem that needs addressing (the influence of the interests of capital on entertainment) isn't exclusive to Marvel, and pretending that it is just lets the problem fester. "Marvel is problematic" just... seems like a bad slogan honestly as far as critiquing capitalist media goes.

I think there are two separate problems here: Marvel media broadly containing harmful or clumsy messages, and Marvel media suppressing or distracting from left-wing ideas and resistance. The former will change when it becomes legitimately profitable for Marvel to become more sensitive to certain members of its audience (which will only result in more marginalized identities becoming emptily commodified, unfortunately). The latter is a more direct result of capitalism that is systemically unavoidable.

Lastly: as you said, if I didn't respond to one of your points or comments that probably means I agree with it or couldn't think of anything to add