#// and LIKE STILL. MOST of the cast in TK was still relatively ... normal ?
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I'm trying to take a nap but I just GOTTA write this real quick 'cos due to the New DLC Character, there have been alotta discussions and I just feel like many ppl forgot the original points of the earlier games. ESPECIALLY the original trilogy.
Of course, there are many ppl who are saying Clive looks outta place and that he'd fit Soul Calibur more. And the many ppl arguing against this popular criticism just... don't understand? Like they're like "but he's Anime Boy! How does he not fit in?" or old tired "this game has bears and devils!! But HE doesn't fit in??? Lolwhut!! XD" Even though ppl are making jokes about how TK8 is the first time Clive will see a car or billboards (and uh... y'know. that already explains how he's outta place LMAOOOO)
Yes, the original Tek series has ALWAYS had some kind of supernatural or wild element. Notably Yoshi, Jack, the bears (and Roger) and devils / monsters. But like... REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. What were the context of these characters? The animals still fought rather traditionally than flashy or magical. And plus, they were joke characters. They weren't intended to take seriously. Jack, Yoshi (And Yoshi's counterpart, Kuni) and Mokujin are the only really fanatical serious characters in the whole cast. (Even Jack, you can still argue he has more of a "technological" aspect to him than magic or fantasy) Yes, there are demons like Ogre and Devil. But... they were literally final bosses and there's a reason why. Like it was supposed to be a GRAND THING for the mostly normal cast to be fighting fucking monsters in the end. Like that's why they saved it for last, it was something to build up to, and something to be shocking. I think a lotta modern players miss the point of that.
Also using characters from TK6+ instantly makes the argument invalid 'cos that's when ppl started criticizing the game for "getting too anime / far fetched"
Also another cool thing about the earliest games is that a lotta them had aesthetic themes. TK3, for example, had a very gritty aesthetic. Most of the characters looked like they belonged to the same game -- having a biker or sporty look (if not a martial arts look, which is obvious) You can see what the theme they were going with here. In TK8, we have characters of all kinds of different styles -- some clashing. (We got Jin and Xiao, who match with their black outfits. But then we got some military outfits, and then some in suits, and some that look like fairies like Alisa, and so on) Which just makes me feel like as the games go on, they just stopped caring about "style" as much, y'know? Like sorry but I can't picture TK8 Alisa (even if I do love her) or Clive in TK1-TK4.
Gon is another example they like to use of a third party feeling totally out of place. But... again, context matters! Both Gon and Dr. B. were secret characters that were meant to be taken as jokes. Like Gon literally has a move where he farts on the opponent. The difference is, we're meant to take Clive seriously. This totally out of place character isn't meant to be funny.
Like I'm glad some ppl are happy about Clive, of course. But like, I totally understand the criticism / concerns some people have. And like, I just feel like a lotta ppl talking about it just don't rly understand the issue.
#✏️ - ᴛʜᴇ ʜᴏsᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏsᴛ // (ooc)#// AND LIKE. when i say the game has become “too anime” -- i am not criticizing anime as a whole#// i do think there are many good animes!#// i just mean the game has become TOO GENERIC of an anime#// like using the most obvs tropes and stuff like that#// hoping to do a lil more ic stuff around here after i awake from my nap :')#// anyway -- *i* personally don't care that clive's in it 'cos as i said#// i just don't rly care what the game does anymore as long as it's fun to play#// lore has basically gone down the toilet for me anyway#// but i do think a lotta the discussions revolving around this are just ... missing the point?#// and LIKE STILL. MOST of the cast in TK was still relatively ... normal ?#// like i still felt like there were * more * normal fighters than bizarre fighters y'know?#// nowadays it feels like we're getting more saturated with magical / fantasy / superpowered fighters 'yknow??#// like DESPITE what TK8 did to her -- jun didn't fight with powers to begin with lol#// she was stated to have purity -- but she was also just another traditional fighter
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Buff G gets it... he actually fucking gets it. Which I don't mean that as an insult but the thing is that many TK "influencers" just make the same argument of "duhhh tek's ALWAYS been fantasy. How does he NOT fit in?" or "so what if he doesn't fit in? He's a DLC". So it actually makes me happy to see Buff G saying practically the same thing I was saying!
Like that's something people gotta realize. Tek has had bears but... they didn't fight with magic nor were they flying all over the place -- the bears still used a relatively realistic fighting style. Even Mokujin, who was a wooden boy, still only used the other characters' fighting styles -- so he was mostly fighting normally, too.
ESPECIALLY when you look back at the first 4 games, the roster and gameplay was much more grounded than it is now. I used to say that outta all the popular ones, Tek was the most grounded fighting game. MK had fantasy and supernatural elements, most characters had powers or projectiles of some kind. SF had Ryu, a seemingly regular martial artist, shooting "fire balls" out of his hands -- again, many characters with projectiles or powers. Tek felt like the one game where most of its cast primarily focused on regular, more realistic fighting styles. No magic, no teleporting, no complete fantasy -- save for only a few special characters.
But now the roster feels like it's been saturated with fantasy like everything else.
#✏️ - ᴛʜᴇ ʜᴏsᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏsᴛ // (ooc)#// he mentions alisa fitting in ... but as much as i like her --#// even she's criticized HASDHASDHASHA#// tk6 is around when the game started becoming more far fetched after all
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