#& capochin says he was there from the start

[octobobble]

Ramble abt CobiSpek bc I think abt this ship every day. Putting it under a read more bc it’ll include game spoilers and also like idk how long it will be and it may be a lil. Incoherent. I’m insane about them

OKAY. SO. I think about CobiSpek a lot and there’s a lot in that relationship, at least to me. Like at first I was like oh that’s nice that Cobigail was so quick to reach out and invite him back into the pantheon. And then I thought more. And went crazy.

Inspekta and Cobigail are both like, stupidly lonely gods, Inspekta actively isolates himself because of his own mental issues (also Capochin not letting other bizzyboys see him but shhhhh) and Cobigail is basically forgotten. Inspekta is scared of being replaced and forgotten, that he’ll become unimportant and cast aside. All he has to do is look at Cobigail to have that confirmed as a possibility, no one has visited her in 20 years, she’s forgetting her favorite food, the harvest songs, her own domain. She’s everything he’s so scared of, and she’s coping by acting like everything is alright. Thinking about possible interactions between them makes me ill.

Because when you’re about to head into Milldread he says that he doesn’t think Cobigail’s a blood drinker. I don’t think he says that solely because he feels bad. He says that because he absolutely NEEDS to look, to feel, like he’s the good guy. He’s the hero of the story. Don’t you get it, he’s not the one in the wrong. Why would he ever call Cobigail a cannibal, that’s evil and wrong and he’d NEVER do that. The gods can talk to each other, Cobigail tells Thespius about you visiting and Inspekta gave Click Clack the letter from King. Do you think Inspekta ever visited Cobigail, assured her that he was a friend, or that he would fix this. That he would solve this problem he caused. That he would absolve her of this accusation that he made. She started to believe it. She considered the possibility of being a cannibal. And Inspekta caused that. But he’s her friend.

That’s. THATS SO MUCH TO WORK THROUGH!!! But Cobigail would understand, wouldn’t she? She was isolated for twenty years, she’d understand the desperation, wouldn’t she? Their greatest difference is that Cobigail’s reaction swings in a completely opposite direction. Inspekta is hungry, Inspekta consumes. Cobigail is starved. She acts like everything is fine, demands nothing, smiles and jokes around like she’s not in a terrible spot. I think they have a lot to talk about. I think they have a lot to work through. There’s so much potential in their dynamic, in who they are as people. The only god in Milldread and a god with no area to look over. Someone desperate to be worshipped, to be loved, to be the hero, the one that saved the day. And someone who deals with serious issues, mentally taxing situations and horrible isolation, with jokes and laughs and staying as lighthearted as she can, even while being painted as cruel and evil. They’re so sides of a coin to me.

They make me insane. Lonely people with the problems ever. Friendship, romance, something secret third thing. Who knows. Love loses.

[itsdefinitely]

im horribly infatuated with him how's everybody else's new year's eve going

[elkian]

More about GGG's finale and core plot (that is, BIG SPOILERS BELOW)

One recurring trend is loneliness. King's actions help connect people, and our protagonist continues in her footsteps, but the loneliness of the characters who play antagonists is especially notable.

The God Awards (which I've mentioned before, the whimsy of them made me totally blip over the red flags and implications) mention Inspekta doing everything for them. What would they be without him, Capochin asks?

"Lonely!"

Inspekta gathered the lonely hearts together. Gave them purpose. Gave them a charismatic leader to follow.

Saul is one of the most antagonistic non-Bizzy humans, and a recurring refrain in Milldread is how lonely everyone is. How gatherings are now somehow either discouraged or outright illegal (hmm, wonder whose idea that was). In fact, most of the Milldread citizens only have good or at least compassionate things to say about him.

(Sometimes I feel like the antagonists are shown a little much compassion given the way this plot goes, but it is also important to remember that deprogramming cultists etc. is based around showing compassion and reminding them that the world is not innately hostile to them. And there's only so much a single game can say in the span of a few hours, so, like, I get it.)

In fact, you have to insult Saul twice to progress in Milldread. How do you do this?

One, you get a dog to make a dog noise, and Saul loses it and comes over to harass the dog (and fail).

Two, after this point, he'll say that he "hates that shaggy little man". This is the line you need to give Budd to progress. When he asks for an insult levied at Saul, you can travel the town... and find that everyone has good things to say about him. He's misled, he's actually very sweet, his friends miss him.

It's very telling that the only way to effectively insult Saul to Budd is to use his own words to do it. Even writing this, I realize that this also implies a bit of a persecution complex with Saul - the people around him don't hate him, or even think he's particularly incompetent. They're worried about him. They understand that he's stressed. He was lead astray by a bad element but he snaps out of it (with help) in time to rejoin his community.

And speaking of throwing words back in faces...

Capochin shows a pretty regular skill for recognizing voices when you fling words at him - it's funny, because a lot of people in this game don't, so he's an outlier and that's amusing. In the battle against him, it means you have to work around him - you can't use his own words against him directly.

Instead, you put words in "Inspekta"'s mouth and bring that to Capo.

He shows an awareness, to a level, that this isn't really Inspekta talking. But this realization is a long time coming, and he can't repress it anymore. He can't deny reality when it's thrown in his face, when he's all alone, when nobody wants to work with him anymore. When even his god is only using him, spending more time with the Godpoke, leading him astray.

The Bizzyboys (and Hector; Yugo Limbo said that all of them come from Drain, hence them looking alike(?) ) evoke a very specific type of person, to me: the incel. Or at least, something adjacent. They're all referred to as "he" as Bizzys (I'm of a mind that Bizzyboys are all he/him while Bizzy, as, like, an honorary gender, mostly because it's just a silly idea; though in retrospect it also meshes with the enforced similarity situation). They're all lonely. They've banded together under a mutual purpose, but they don't really support each other.

And when they start to, between Hobbyhoo and BuzzHuzz? When they begin to collaborate, talk about taking a break from all this fash shit "investigating"?

Capochin shuts them down. Hard.

And Patty says he's scared of Capochin, but the other Bizzies say he would never hurt any of them. But when Capochin blows his top, all of them get really timid.

Capochin not getting involved in the violence until there's literally no one else to hide behind is so cliche that it almost just seems like a joke, until I took in the rest of the story.

Playing this game makes me think a lot of Fallout: New Vegas, a game where you can also destroy fascism and avert a cataclysm as a vaquero-themed courier.

One thing that becomes achingly clear in FNV is how the Legion is a cult of personality: it's not just the Legion, it's Caesar's Legion. Legate Lanius is terrifying, yes, but nobody talks about him as a leader so much as a warrior. Once Caesar dies, it seems obvious to me that the entire thing is going to crumple like a house of cards. Caesar didn't leave any backup plans, any true heirs, because the whole thing was his vanity project. There's no point to the Legion without Caesar, and he never once considered that there should be.

Inspekta and the Bizzyboys work very similarly. The whimsy and goofiness of the setting, which we also see in Smile For Me, lead me to miss some major red flags (I am also just. very dense.), which is a known problem in real fascism - the use of cutesy facades to cast absurdity on any claims of propaganda.

Anyways. My point is that the Bizzyboys seem at first to be a group, but are really more underlings in a cult of personality. Everything falls apart when faith in the system - in Capochin, in Inspekta - is lost. And Capochin is the Joshua Graham to Inspekta's Caesar; both of them culpable, both of them seeming in charge, with Capochin primed to take the fall as soon as things go wrong. But he volunteered for that! He wanted to be Inspekta's #1! The right-hand chump! The prime goon! He's getting everything he ever worked for, so don't question the system, Capo, because that's the same as doubting Inspekta. And doubting Inspekta means you're not a good Bizzyboy. Means you're ungrateful. Means that maybe what you have should go to someone who'll appreciate it.

They literally have their names stripped away - and I think the constant belittling and name-withholding of Patty, who genuinely displays real competence and intelligence at points if you pay attention, is a deliberate ploy. You don't want to be like P. You don't want to be a failure. Look at you, earning your letters! You almost have a full name! Not like that loser at the bottom of the barrel. You're a real winner, here.

And you, P? You need to try harder. Look how Alexei has his whole name back for doing hardly anything! How can you fail to get even a single letter back, compared to him? When Patty asks for his name back in Milldread, Capochin mentions solving mysteries - mysteries of "what does Capochin want for lunch", etc. It's silly, but it's also sinister. It's the most overtly self-centered bit of Bizzy lore we get for maybe the whole game. Capochin outright says he comes first and we laugh because of the delivery.

(The videos are fantastic, because they really set up the reveal in a lot of both subtle and unsubtle ways. Even the very first video, where Capochin insults Patty for asking a scripted question, before moving into the answer, is foreshadowing for the constant emotional abuse all of the Bizzys and Patty in particular are subjected to. There's probably much more I'm forgetting.)

Under the whimsy and humor of the game is a very real statement about cults and fascism and the kinds of people they recruit, and how they do it. They amplify the concerns of the disenfranchised and alone, people who have difficulty connecting with a community. They give those people somewhere to belong, ideals to uphold, and targets to gang up on.

Anyways. Good game.

[smileposting]

[THIS POST CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR GREAT GOD GROVE, READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.]

something i think is really interesting about click clack in particular is that out of all the gods he's probably the most Active in making mistakes throughout his arc? but unlike some other gods like mitternacht or cobigail he doesn't have a newly-sown distrust in king, and unlike level-specific antagonists like saul he's not motivated by a distrust of other people. if anything it's his tendency to idolize the people in his life/take their roles for granted (in the "accepts them as Immutable Fact" way) that gets him into hot water in the hobbyhoo level, bc it means he Doesn't Interrogate Anything and also does not Realize that he's not interrogating anything in his daily life, bc being an editor means you already interrogate people's writing on the daily.

he doesn't question why “king” would tell him to tone down the parts of oh partner mine that people care about the most, he's just like "well it's king so she's gotta know what she's talking about." he doesn't question why thespius would keep submitting scripts with those parts still intact after the first rejection, he's just like "ahhh, well, thespius has always had a tender heart. good thing more people will see that after my hard work is done!" and like i've said in previous posts, prior to godpoke's interference, it doesn't really seem like it was the norm to take a complaint straight to a god despite it being the easiest way to solve a problem, so obviously nobody was coming to tell him "hey big man this is kind of uh. shit." despite the fact that this is Also sometimes a necessary part of creative collaboration.

in this way, though far from the Only example, i think click clack's arc is a very good summary from both a divine and a (formerly) mortal perspective of some of the shortcomings of how gods are Regarded by the grove at large when the game first begins - i.e. the idea that gods are not only uniquely infallible, but their godhood is Mutually Exclusive from their humanity (neither of which are true, as we see throughout the game.) i imagine that being raised in a culture like that and then ascending to godhood makes it Very hard to admit when you know something is amiss - because if that's true, then no, your godhood does not make you infallible. and if your godhood doesn't make you infallible, can you really be trusted with godhood? if your godhood doesn't make you infallible like everybody says, what other things are they wrong about? what other things are you wrong about? very intimidating questions! best to just keep at it like you know what you're doing and hope nobody else catches on (spoiler alert: they will, in fact, catch on.)

also i can't find a way to work this into the rest of the post but i also think it's interesting that you can make a case for his arc foreshadowing/paralleling capochin's own? right hand man who is Intensely devoted to the guy he works with and is in denial about the romantic aspect of said devotion -> guy becomes more proactive in doing what he believes will best serve the guy he works with's interests at the expense of their community's morale -> guy eventually realizes he let his devotion blind himself to the true nature of guy he works with's desires and promptly gets his ass in gear to start fixing it. and also realizes that it was in fact a gay thing. obviously there are key differences there bc that's what narrative foils Do but yknow. I Just Think It's Neat.

[basilpaste]

Do you have any miscellaneous bizzyboy headcanons... share with tha class

a small handful i think :} ill start with post canon Nouns because theyre easy.

p - she/her. maybe an occasional he is thrown back in there for spice. she plays around with some nounself stuff at some point for funzies, but all in all she/her suits her needs best. vib - he/she. purely your influence but i believe it in my heart. boy in a dyke way girl in a fag way. you understand. capochin - he/him. but in that way that if he thought about it twenty years ago hed probably be using they/them exclusively today. and maybe someone used they/them for him on accident once and he still thinks about it sometimes. but no. he/him. al - he/him. but in the most stoner ass transmasculine way you can imagine. you ask him what pronouns he uses and he gives you a thumbs up. ban - he/???. he says he. he just also says hes got secret pronouns no one gets to know about. the truth is that the ??? means any. gr - he/it. has a weird relationship with personhood and identity in general. he because hes perceived as a man. it because it doesnt perceive itself as much of anything.

nouns aside: i dont think a single bizzyboy can cook. but they all have one thing they can cook decently enough. these six foods make up a good Most of what they eat in a week. its rough out here.

gr can kinda bake though.

i think vib is really good at drawing bodies and clothing on bodies. but she cant draw faces to save her life. or animals really, hes bad at animals.

bans kinda bookish? not really, but they do pick up a lot of useless information from various sources that he tends to use for conversation starters. xir affinity for fun facts also means knowing a lot of stuff about flowers? which it imparts to p.

gr objectum. thumps up.

i also like to think about which gods theyd all gravitate towards after inspekta.

p - miss mitternaucht (comforting, close to home) capo - cobigail (earnest. something he needs) vib - thespius (creative, affectionate) ban - click clack (creative, a critical eye) al - huzzle mug (energetic, the no-nonsense in nonsense) gr - king (courageous, a voice her own)

... and hes not one of the boys, but i think hector would benefit from speaking with bauhauzzo.

i think p is the most physically affectionate of them but vib is not far behind. hes a big fan of casual touch.

okay thats all for now wau.

[moonchopsticks]

finished great god grove tonight! first scattered thoughts:

- been said to death but fucking immaculate style. yugo limbo never misses

-im the type of person that Needs to Know what happens next in the story so i definitely rushed over a lot of optional dialogue. definitely coming back for a second or third playthrough where i can dig into the world a little better

-i loooved the progression of revealing the lore and worldbuilding throughout the story. it was all very straightforward and followable yet sparse enough to make me feel like i was piecing together the nature of the gods and the grove organically. also watching the bizzyboy puppet exposition dumps were such a treat

-very cool worldbuilding, although sometimes the gods just felt like Big Immortal Humans. i know they all had their associated domains which influences their respective communities (+ tied into the different types of love that they each represent) but it never felt like they had much power outside embodying a specific theme. which is fine, there's lots of ways to interpret divinity and the concept of a god. maybe i'll have something more coherent to say abt this in the morning?

-^^ kind of ties into inspekta's whole deal. he already had immortality and was guaranteed it basically forever, in what way did king's ascension and the other gods just existing threaten him? like i'll buy that he had the sort of ego that comes from being insecure about the meaning of your short life and from fear of irrelevance, but if he was afraid of death it seems like he'd already be chilling just by accomplishing ascension. i guess he just wanted it All? i'm not really pressed about it, since the themes of like. love in the face of mortality and the insecurity that fear of death can bring are hugely impactful to me personally. and i like to see people talk about it. i just think more couldve been done with it.

-speaking of, capochin is a banger of a character. he has such a little ego and lords his authority over his subordinates, and you can just tell he's dripping with insecurity about his place in the world. i.e. at the right hand of inspekta as his unflinchingly loyal dog. he craves power and purpose and fears irrelevance, just like inspekta, and is tethered to his place by both intense fear and devotion. he treats the bizzyboys like dirt but even as they start to rebel against him they know that he'd never hurt them. also he's a 3 foot tall smug bastard fifty something year old with little puppy dog eyes. who's doing it like him

-inspekta, like all the players in the story, was made with such love and care that i couldnt imagine anything but a hopeful ending for him. aw hector. the secretly evil twist was pretty obviously telegraphed. had my suspicions pretty early on, which were solidified by the time the bizzyboys attack you after cobigail and all but stated after buzzhuzz, where they turn to fascism. (surprised that razzma said it straight up.)

- probably my favorite gods were cobigail and bauhazzo. did NOT expect to like them so much! cobigail's lore is really good for a human turned god of harvest--music teacher that lives in the school she used to teach in, a bright pillar of the community, voted to ascend by the town she brought together. slowly forgotten by the people she used to break bread with and slowly starving because they're forgetting how to come together and feed her. and she's a fucking cutie patootie sweet pea. and bauhazzo was very charming to talk to and also one of the most interesting thematically to me personally. for a god of memory and keeper of thousands of years of history he's very tender about the small moments. being a living memory essentially and letting nostalgia overtake you in a moment of weakness is an on the nose but relevant warning against fascist rhetoric (and just in general the trap of thinking about the Good Old Days). in general im someone that loves the ups and downs of life, and i tend to be nostalgic about the past and fear the passing of time, but my memory is really poor, so i end up thinking a lot about the subjectivity of memories and about how effervescent everything is...bauhazzo just ended up resonating with me ig!

-the first time miss mitternacht dropped that king uses she/her my eyes goggled out of my head like that cartoon wolf. experienced the euphoria of finding out that cool guy was a butch lesbian in real time. also makes her and miss mitternacht's thing one million times more juicy. idk i love gay people

-not sure why this stuck in my head but i cracked up when vibi was getting a little too into imagining capochin getting sweaty and dirty. pathetic man likers rise up

-patty i love u forever

-idk, this is the sort of game that reminds me that i want to create something. i want to make art without reservation. i'm grateful for projects like these.

[neoncityrain]

rambling

ggg inspekta means a lot to me. big spoilers for great god grove ahead, play the game

edit bc i realized i should say this first. im apologizing for none of the actions in this game i simply want to dissect characters and watch them squirm in their petri dishes

i dont think cap was The Abuser to be clear. im not convincing anyone of anything, im rambling.

like idk, i know what its like to be isolated for months. i know what its like to only talk to select people someone else decides are good for you for months and only afterwards realizing just how much that fucked you UPPP. cap and inspekta were both BAD for each other, at least from what ive seen, and i cant help but sympathize on some level

this is not me being dramatic, either- summer breaks in school fucking sucked for me. no leaving the house, no speaking to anyone. inspekta was the newest god, how much of it did he spend spiralling because no one was there, i wonder? he PHYSICALLY COULD NOT step outside! THERES NOWHERE TO GO! hes the god of leadership!!! hes a god of leadership without visitors- is it any wonder he started to tie himself in knots?

i mentioned this to a friend of mine, but it could be quite possible that the gods embody their aspects whether they like it or not- you could take clicketys words as them actually understanding theyre wrong all along, sure, but another interesting thing is... if they DONT have control over it. narrating every action whether you like it or not, changing the weather with your mood whether you like it or not, seeing all of history whether you like it or not, making brambles grow whether you like it or not. so then almost all of what makes inspekta tick is severed? a leader turns to simply an overseer? how could he be the god of leadership when all he can do is watch?

and capochin..... ooooooh capo. oh i understand what its like to be manipulated and to lash out too! FUCK DUDE!!!! to be so desperate to be told youre doing good that youll do anything youre told? tearing peices of yourself to make someone else happy? hurting to just FIT IN?? GH. i get it i really do- and how can you not?

idk. emotions are messy and i like watching these fifty year old men dig themselves six feet deep and keep going. theyre so bad for each other i dont think either is completely innocent. i love it so much

[1tz-br1ght]

ﾉﾞ✧*。Why I Relate To Capochin✨🌈

Infodumping about my life, capochin, headcannons, and other autistic things! 

TW for mention of abuse, manipulation, power imbalances, pedophilia, and parasocial (?) Relationships

Capochin! Who doesn't love him other then people who don't love him- he's such a silly little guy!! Just a grumpy old man!! A grumpy old man who I, a mentally unwell teenager relate to on a deeply personal level- definitely a bit more then I'm comfortable with- and I know what your thinking, "But Felix! Seriously how relatable can he be-" SHUT UP. SHUT. SH.

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Allow me to explain, and I guess spill my organs just a bit- just a WEE bit! So, given only two people on this forsaken website actually know about my personal life and was there to watch it happen I have a bit of explaining to do- so, where do I start... Hm, how's about middle school! Middle school, ah, how lovely- cutting out how much I was relentlessly bullied middle school was my first exposure to this kind of unhealthy relationship that I've unfortunately grown so accustomed to. Long story short I was forced into a relationship, got extremely emotionally attached only to be abandoned and have the things I love most stolen- then people spread rumors about me and blah blah blah I was bullied in middle school and people did not stop that's the short of it!

But then it kept happening.

Again-

And again-

And again.

Each relationship was progressively worse I, being the dumbass I am, only grew more and more dependant on these people who would hurt me, desprate for the approval of people who looked down at me with nothing but hate in their eyes. Starting to see a similarity? Anyways skip to freshman year! 

Highschool! How bad could it be?? Not worse then middle school that's for sure! And believe it or not- I think I'm that loser who peaks in highschool-BUT the reason I bring this up is because of my most recent experience with an abusive relationship I could not get out of.

Michael. 

At the time I was 14, Michael was 17- he guilt tripped me into dating him, used me for what he wanted and smothered me with 'love' if you could even call it that and at some point in this endless loop of hell he turned 18 while I was still 14- a lot more happened in that relationship but the important part is that this is when I hit an all time low and I didn't mention this but I have always been big on cannibalism metophors- and this is around when those cannibalism metophors stopped being uhhh, metophors let's say! 

Yeah things got real bad but I managed to crawl away mostly unharmed-

And I know because that was genuinely a lot for HORRIBLE shit to read I'll give everyone a bit of fluff in my life, I'm doin fine and I'm in a very happy polyam relationship !! I love my boyfriends very much!

Back to the horrible shit!

This kinda manic desperation got really bad after I got away from Michael, my brain immediately opting to viewing my current boyfriend, Oco as a savior of sorts- given hes known me since middle school, got me out of the abusive relationship with Michael and kinda is the only reason I haven't DIED yet- holding him up on this mental pedistal where no matter what he did he would always be perfect and amazing and I would do anything anything anything for him!! 

Yeah, that... That kinda fucked me up- I mean, go figure-

ALL THESE MANY MANY PARAGRAPHS OF TRAUMADUMPING TO SAY, DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN??? GOD this isn't even scratching the surface of the shit I've been through that contributes to why I relate to Capochin so much!! This is leaving out like ALLLLLL the cannibalism and self mutilation metophors I've found myself associated with, pretty much everything that happened that lead up to me holding just... SOME GUY on a mental pedistal for god knows how long- I could genuinely just go on and on and on about it!! But honestly I don't think anyone would really be interested in listening to me info dump about my life more then I already have- we're here for the CAPOCHIN!!! And honestly- I don't really know what to say- I mean I feel like this all kinda speaks for itself, y'know? I mean- fuck man, he just hits a bit too close to home for me sometimes- I love him tho, he's very important to me

If you actually read this far- Uhm, thank you!! You really didn't need to read all this shit- I know it's a lot to take in but I uh- yeah- if you read all this thank you it genuinely means a lot to me <3

[bizzyboys]

okay actual intro post time until I have the energy to make a carrd

Endo systems and supporters leave!!! Bye bye!! I am anti-endo slash anti-any other type of system origin that isn’t trauma!!

Strawpage here!!

Romantic f/os under the cut, doubles please don’t interact 💔

Okay let’s start

hi!! im Melody!! If our entire profile theme changes randomly one day it’s probably because someone else took over and wanted to make it more comfortable for them to post here. Also I am 17!! (FINALLYYY)

I try not to post too much info about our system online because of the dangers of it and also just because it’s our personal life and experiences, so all you get is we are a diagnosed DID system and have been working with our current therapist for…maybe like 1-2 years? Idk time is wonky for us. Also diagnosed C-PTSD

I have a hard time remembering things so I like to keep receipts of things sometimes!!

We are always tired. Like always. Our mental problems drain us constantly to where we mainly sleep most of the day away unless we’re doing school (we do online school because public school doesn’t work for us) or going out. We try to be awake during the day, but if we die for a good while or don’t respond to you immediately just assume we’re sleeping lmao

Uhhh what else. Pronouns change constantly!! Please don’t use she/her unless we say it’s okay. It/They/He is normally a safe bet!! Also no fem terms unless we also say it’s okay!! you can call us a girlboss though because we get the gender good from that

Romantic F/os include: William Afton (since 2015 babyyyy), Boris Habit, Inspekta, Capochin, P/Patty, Mystery Burns, Alastor, Marvus, Whimsy+Angel, and more but those are the ones I think of right off the bat

I am currently most attached to Capochin, but I still get uncomfortable with other people who have the same romantic f/os interacting :[

Some of our interests include: The Glass Scientists, Doll-Eye, FNAF, DSAF, Dialtown, HTTYD, COTL, HLVRAI, Minecraft, Roblox (sometimes), POKEMON!!!!, Digimon, doodling, creating things (like cosplay props for when we go to cons), vocaloid, music in general, Smile for Me (beloved comfort game), Great God Grove, psychological horror, ARGs, creepypastas, Marble Hornets, Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss, Madoka Magica, Sailor Moon, BATIM, Bee and Puppycat, Fiona and Cake, Homestuck, Hiveswap, Undertale, Deltarune, Hamsters/Proper hamster care, Hamtaro, Little Nightmares, and other things!! (Aka this list is getting too long and im tired and don’t want to keep adding to rn lmao)

Here’s some silly userboxes that we relate to!!

[mage-ical-character-person]

RIGHT!

Like there’s standees of a lot of the gods, right? LOOK HOW HERS COMPARES TO THE OTHERS!

Quite literally demonizing her!

And the thing is!! One of the things that gets me!! The current music teacher is more afraid of her than probably anyone! After you talk to Cobi for the first time Pollina is surprised you survived. And she’s not one of the townsfolk whose reaction to Cobigail’s “BOO!” changes.

Pollina is the most physically close to Cobigail, she knows who Cobigail used to be, knows her song. And she’s still terrified.

Granted, this might be due to Cobigail actively playing into the town’s perception of her with her pranks. (She just can’t resist!) And Pollina being right there miiiight make her a prime target. Even if Pollina never enters Cobigail’s domain, she may still be able to like. Hear her from the classroom.

Still, though…

And I never really thought about Cobigail being the reverse of Inspekta’s situation. Mostly because he had the Bizzyboys for a while before ascending and like. God or not those little guys worship him. But the Bizzyboys are a relatively recent development in his life. He spent years before that completely alone, to the point that despite the unending devotion of the boys, he was still convinced he would be forgotten, even as a god.

I mean… I HAVE thought about Inspekta watching this happen to Cobi and taking it as “proof” that being a god wasn’t enough to avoid being forgotten. Cobi has two whole holidays dedicated to her and her values, and everyone still forgot her! She forgot herself!! Clearly, drastic action is the only solution. Hence Inspekta’s whole “I need to be the only god so everyone will remember and love me forever” plan.

But Cobigail being his opposite is really interesting. Parallels between the younger gods… they could’ve been besties… I mean… someone who values community as much as Cobi could be a great mentor for the God of Leadership. And she’s a teacher she knows a thing or two about mentoring.

Part of the reason Capo saying in the credits that he’s gonna get to know the other gods, starting with Cobigail is so cool, I think. Ough do you think she’d remind him a little bit of who ‘Ekta was before the whole spiral into villainy?

(Also funny because Inspekta’s over here with his devotion burgie that’s probably definitely made out of Capochin’s flesh accusing another god of eating people)

Either way, Cobigail is so so sweet she doesn’t deserve this! At least she has the other gods to turn to, with her people fearing her so much. She explicitly sees them as family.

(Also so funny that she mentions Thespius as her friend when she hears you’re heading to HobbyHoo but has nothing to say about Click Clack. Like I get she’s closer with Thespius cause they have more in common: associations with music and plants, full of so much love for those around them, all that. But still. No words for the clown. Don’t say hullo to him, only Thespius)

The other gods care about Cobi! Ms Metternacht worries about her and Bauhauzzo has many nice things to say. And that recent official art we got of her and Huzzle! She looks so happy!! Friends!!

(HER SMIIIILE!!) But they’re ancient, and she’s still sorta getting used to the whole immortality thing. Going 20 years without talking probably isn’t a big deal to them, but it’s still kind of a long time for her.

And I guess King was too busy being lovey dovey with Miss M to go check in on Cobigail for those 20 years. As Godpoke she had one job! But I guess she forgor because giant skeleton girlfriend is just too pretty and it’s distracting.

Y’know a lot of the gods in Great God Grove are treated more like celebrities than gods. Their power over the thing they’re god of seems to be mostly social influence. Exceptions to this are Miss M, may or may not be the actual creator god of this world, and… Cobigail. For some reason.

The people of Mildread (Bloom notwithstanding) treat Cobigail like an inhuman deity, more like a force of nature than a person. And yeah, she is a force of nature now, technically, but she also values her town, her community so much. She seems to hold her human life in higher regard than any of the other gods do. I wonder if it hurts to be seen as something so other now. To have everyone convinced you’re this monstrous thing. I wonder if she misses being human.

Either way, Cobigail seems to have some actual influence over how well the crops do, which is more than I can say for, like… Thespius. Or Inspekta. Or even Bauhauzzo. He doesn’t seem to have any control over whether people remember things or not, it’s just that his own memory is good and he can… tell people what he remembers.

And then there’s Cobigail. As long as she’s not being starved, she has power over how the crops do. But??? She might’ve already had that as a human??

…She’d get along with Summer from Spiritfarer I think.

That flower in the drawing is glowing. Cobigail even calls her song an “incantation”??

[ribday]

Day 6 Part 1 - Snorkeling

We woke up early to go snorkeling! We were picked up right at 7:55 and taken to Cuahita National Park. Our group of seven was mixed with five other people who were a lot of fun. Our guide was great and you could tell he really enjoyed what he was doing. We got flippers, snorkels, and life jackets and hopped on the boat. The National Park is beautiful from the water. The coastline is all natural, just palm trees and sand. We went out to a marine reserve to snorkel. Some of us felt a bit queasy from the choppy water. We put our stuff on and into the eater we went. As soon as I hit the water I did a big dry heave burp, and the people still on the boat laughed along with me. I felt immediately better.

Breathing through a tube is a bit weird but you get used to it. The view was great! Fish of all shapes and sizes. Unfortunately I don’t have an underwater camera, but I assure you it was beautiful. The coral and other things at the bottom of the ocean was also exciting to see. We did 45 minutes in the first spot, and then we’re going to move to another, but four of us decided to bail out because we were feeling sick again. We were dropped off on the most beautiful beach. It looked like something off of a postcard. We sat in the sand and waded into the water. I decided to start making a sand castle village and a wall around it to keep water out. We stayed noticing white-faced capochins (monkeys) in the trees! It was cool to see them out in nature, and we saw on attempt to steal another persons vackpack, then one even tried to steal ours. We saw a bunch of monkeys when we went snorkeling!

The boat showed back up with the rest of our group and they unloaded onto the beach for a break and fresh pineapple. We hung out with the monkeys and got to know each other a bit more before getting on the boat and being dropped at another beach to begin our hike.

The hike was great! The guide pointed out a Jesus lizard, an iguana, bats, sloths, capochins, and howler monkeys. The guide was extremely good at his job and super friendly to all of us. We really enjoyed the tour. The others on the tour were great and each made us laugh with the things they’d say, whether it was purposeful or not. They dropped us off at our hostel and we started tending to our sunburn. We were all hungry at this point.

Choice quote of the day: “I used to play basketball but I wasn’t tall enough so I couldn’t go pro”

[smileposting]

new demo observations - part 2!

these focus more lil crumbs of lore here and there that weren't noted in the first post. click here for part 1!

the rift emits a faint Ambience when the camera zooms in on it after you first arrive in the grove. best way i can describe it is like... brown noise. a bassline. something Deep but subtle.

you Can knock down the inspekta cutout on the first island by hitting it with an anchor/ball/etc. there's still no interaction prompt like there is with the mitternacht cutout though, i.e. you cannot knock it down with your bare hands. would not be surprised if this was supposed to be foreshadowing.

bizzy boys in general don’t seem to be very popular lol. they have a reputation for being loud, dumb, mischievous, and starved for praise. can’t say it’s inaccurate! mitternacht even starts crying harder after you tell her inspekta's going to save the day. oddly, razzma doesn't seem to hold their rowdiness against inspekta (although something tells me he really should.)

razzma wrote the big book of king quotes, under the name razzma v. tazz.

in addition to capochin-second-in-command-best-of-da-bunch-dont-forget-it, capochin also claims he is capochin-prettiest-handsomest-bizzyboy-extraordinaire.

al has eaten dirty laundry before. and grass. and dirt. and other bizzyboy's snacks. apparently many of them either don't eat on the job or hide their food from him to escape his endless hunger.

ban got the other letters in his name for giving capochin an hour-long back massage.

vib insults our fit if we call him a bug despite citing it as an inspiration in his default dialogue. very funny. also if you use capochin's words to tell him to get to work he gets Really into it. like moreso than any of the other bizzyboys. starts callin himself capochin's loyal pup. which could mean nothing.

inspekta can’t say “adorable.” it’s like trying to pronounce worcestershire sauce to him.

prior to ascension, inspekta was the leader of the bizzyboys on earth (duh.) when he assigned his role to capochin after ascending, the latter apparently reacted So strongly that inspekta thought he would die. apparently sometimes he wonders if it’s too much responsibility for cap…

calling inspekta a tiny weak little bug apparently reminds him of his human/mortal years, which is. Hm.

inspekta thinks P is cute, but otherwise doesn't have much patience for him at all lmao. does not care for his captain obvious tendencies.

IF YOU TELL BUG GOODY JOB ON THE GOODY WORK FROM INSPEKTA HE TRIES TO SELL YOU OUT BC HE STILL THINKS YOU’RE KING LMAOOOOOO. granted he could also just be trying not to piss inspekta off.

“if yew insist on solvin’ this mystery yewrself, yew be awful careful! the gods can be spiteful folk! proud, too! that’s what the last godpoke could nevah under-sand. i don’t want my godpoke to end uppy like king!” hi inspekta. what the fuck does that mean

“lettin’ words affect you this much? what a drain!” you would know somethin' about that wouldn’t you spek?

lulu seems more willing to trust a “king apologist” than anything else. using the "i miss my eloquent king!" dialogue gets more dialogue out of her than i think almost any other response. interesting.

i might have me a lil crush on her. don't worry about it.

why is king’s letter to milldread like. baiting people into doing blood sacrifice lmao. “oh how horrible… who could do such a thing…. probably a very brave person. probably someone who wasn’t a fuckin pussy” like Dude.

thinking. inspekta thinks king is trying to push all the gods apart yeah? but according to people like mitternacht and razzma, it doesn’t sound like they had all that much before king entered the picture? sounds like all you'd need for them to be at each other's throats again would just be for king to leave. so what's the point of the letters?

ok i'll stop here before we get into speculation. finished the demo by this point anyway!