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the problem with being a fan of Stella and stolas is we have people making out Stella's only personality to be "abuser" and Stolas' only personality trait to be "victim of blitz, his literal child, and everyone who tries to criticize him ever"

LITERALLYY <//3

i have seen people say stuff like "she doesnt have to be a complex character!!! let her be just plain evil and hateable!!!" which just doesnt apply to STELLA!!! she has so so so much interesting stuff going for her that could be sooo good if written well. she has reasons for acting the way she does!!!

and yet when stolas pulls the same kind of shit stella does or worse, its suddenly fine!!! for some reason!!! yeah he has way more screentime than stella to explain the reasons why he behaves the way he does but stella is such a blatant parallel to him and its so frustrating that so many fans cant see that. like theyre both royal billionaires perpetuating the goetia familys cycle of abuse and neglect

so yeah <//3 its so frustrating that the stella and stolas fans are so divided when theyre BOTH great characters. great VILLAINS!!! stolas is such a good villain he in fact managed to gaslight half the fandom into believing hes completely innocent LOL nobody gets them like we do

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thank u blitzy kun

people will call stella a horrible and abusive parent because she yells at stolas in front of octavia (fair) but then completely refuse to acknowledge stolas talking very sexually and horny in front of octavia who is visibly uncomfortable and asking him to stop. which is also horrible parenting and abuse

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NEVER SEEN A REAL DEMON BEFORE?

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dad???

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people will call stella a horrible and abusive parent because she yells at stolas in front of octavia (fair) but then completely refuse to acknowledge stolas talking very sexually and horny in front of octavia who is visibly uncomfortable and asking him to stop. which is also horrible parenting and abuse

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Do you believe that the way the fandom defend and minimise stolas actions is as bad as or worse than how they talk about Valentino?

In relation to sa and ships

I think it's a little worse because as aggressively as Valentino's fans defend him, at least for the most part, people aren't saying he's not a rapist. The same can't be said for Stolas, whose fandom treats him like the only character in the show who must give 110%, unambiguous, enthusiastic consent at all times or it's rape, but he's allowed to assault whoever he wants.

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The way HB fans demonize stella for random stuff that is not only not confirmed Canon but makes other characters look bad and doesn't make any sense.

Example, someone said that stella pays striker pennies and that's why he's wearing more ragged clothes as time goes on.

First of all, his deteriorating clothes are supposed to represent his growing mental instability, not Stella paying him poorly. Why else would his clothes be fine when he first showed up?

Second, it makes Striker look stupid. He's supposedly one of the best assassins in Wrath, which we just learned has stiff competition. Why would he take a job for shit pay, especially from a royal who he hates and knows can afford it? Sure he wants to kill royals and stellas job gives him the opportunity, but I highly doubt he'd be willing to devalue his skills to do so.

Third, Stella has been shown to be inept at best. Given her status+characterization, I doubt she knows how much things cost. Plus, she's so caught up with killing stolas I could see her letting striker name his price and not batting an eye at it.

Seriously, I'm tired of stolas fans adding random evil things stella does, even when it doesn't make sense. The same thing happens when they accuse her of being homophobic. It's so stupid.

Stolas stans/stella haters are dumb.

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Octavia Now Is Just Like Her Mother: An Obstacle In The Way Of A Toxic Ship

One thing that truly made me dislike this ship is realized how Stella is demonized so that we can have an excuse why Stolas should be seen as a victim rather than an abuser who is a selfish pos who is only out for his own interests while throwing away his family. Sorry, I don't give a hoot he was arranged to marry but he is throwing away his family life for a thrust as Ozzie said before. And despite saying he loves Via, it's obvious that even the creators have come to see her as an obstacle when they outright admit it in a stream.

They only see owl boy as this huge victim when really he's a shitty dad who makes grand gestures to lure his daughter back while inevitably breaking his promise and they want to believe it's all because of Stella and not because of him being a selfish dickbag who only thinks with his cloaca. Via at one time was a good tool to make him seem sympathetic, but as time goes on it gives the opposite effect because we then remember he's a father with duties he's time and again squandered because he values Blitzo over her. While I know the season finale want turn all of Stolas stans against him when he inevitably messes up big time for the third time, it will sour people who realize that this series prioritizes romantic toxicity over a daughter yearning for her father's love and he's abandoned her to fulfill his selfish fantasies.

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Stolas fans saying stolas didn't cheat because he was an abuse victim don't seem to understand why other people still say stolas is a cheater.

Yes, he's an abuse victim and he doesn't owe stella loyalty. The problem, and why I still consider him a cheater is because there is nothing in the story to suggest stolas couldn’t have divorced stella as soon as Octavia was born. In the very least, he could have left years go, even if he needed to stay while she was still a young child.

Also, I'm sorry but most abuse victims hide their affairs adamantly because they know if it gets found out their abuser will hurt or even kill them. Meanwhile, stolas flaunts his affair publicly every time we see him. This gives the impression he's not actually in any danger or afraid of stella (even after learning stella is out to kill him he focuses more on dating blitz and isn't afraid to go outside or anything).

I would agree that stolas's cheating is either irrelevant or not negative to his character if he was actually portrayed as terrified of stella and staying out of fear or some law. But he's not afraid and was able to leave way before he cheated. Like maybe if Viv had written things better it would work, but as it is stella actually looks like the one in a less powerful position in their relationship, given she gets nothing if they divorce. After establishing that, it makes even less sense stolas didn't leave, taking everything from the wife he hates, while giving her the middle finger a decade or more ago.

His status as an abuse victim contradicts the behavior he displays which shows it was put there just to give him sympathy and not really tackle the subject.

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^^^^^^^^

In case it’s still unclear for some of you:

When Stolas was forced into an arranged marriage, he did everything in his power to make his spouse and fellow victim comfortable and as happy as possible, and loved their child with everything in him, in spite of being depressed to the point that he felt it was necessary to prepare his child for the possibility he would be gone.

When Stella was forced into an arranged marriage, she did everything in her power to make her spouse and fellow victim miserable in every way possible, threw parties where she publicly humiliated him, mocked him in front of their peers for dissociating during sex, neglected their child, and verbally (and possibly physically) abused her spouse for seventeen years.

Hope this helps!

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i think of all the characters, stella’s design has improved the most since the pilot cause what the actual fuck was that

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YEAH <3

@stewwa-gweesha wod u sel me 4 a hotdog

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what are your thoughts on just look my way

-blitzy

u cant just send the same ask i just sent u back at me blitzy u need to come up with ur own original content or you will lose subscribers

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what are your thoughts on just look my way

-blitzy

u cant just send the same ask i just sent u back at me blitzy u need to come up with ur own original content or you will lose subscribers

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:(

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if you want to talk about stella or stolas you NEED to take their royalty status into account. its so ingrained into their lives in ways that they cant even recognize. if you try to take anything they do out of the context of their abusive rich privelaged upbringing then you arent doing it right

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what are ur thoughts on stella goetia

ask me this question one more time you fuckish imp sucker i swear to god