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So... we like the red flag BL mcs, huh? 😈

What kind of red are we talking here? Just a lil' dash of paprika? Are we out for actual blood? Or are we looking to end up in a ditch somewhere?

Well, whatever your preference, here I am to deliver something medium rare and nobody asked for 😅. Inspired by Revenged Love's freak4freak energy, and all other BLs out there whose characters love to sing Britney Spears' Toxic and Lady Gaga's Judas at the top of their lungs, here are:

10 toxic Thai BL mcs in order of increasing Threat Level 🚩🏴🏴‍☠️

For the connoisseur who doesn't know what to watch while we wait for Revenged Love to finish airing.

(Yes this post is for spice and the funsies. If you haven't seen any of the shows I'll be mentioning on here, and you love you a tall glass of Bloody Mary, I highly recommend watching these. Trigger warnings for some themes, spoiler warnings for everything else.)

Anyway, on to the poison!

Bachelor No. 10: Looking for a pretty little liar, as a treat? 🥀

Name: Stalker!Cir (not to be confused with other Cir incarnations)

Series: The Boy Next World (MeMindY)

Threat Level: That neighbor who keeps singing karaoke at 3 AM

Dude will enroll in the same university you're in, live one floor below your actual apartment, memorize your schedule, your classrooms, and your friend group, follow you to the supermarket, send his friend out to check on what you're doing, defend your car from thugs, and never, ever, EVER talk to you.

And when the universe finally bullies him into talking to you, he'll lie and insist you're boyfriends in a parallel world. Then use that to get into your pants. What happened to the casual "hi-hello"? Bachelor No. 10 needs charisma lessons.

Yeah yeah, the face and bod is a 10, but he's one screw away from starring in American Psycho. Well, at least he won't cheat on you. Deadly loyal this one, to a fault; good luck breaking up with him. Even when you're not together, he'll always, ALWAYS be there for you, equipped with his own theme song.

Bachelor No. 9: How about a guy with the emotional intelligence of a cactus? 🍒

Name: Sorn

Series: My Stubborn (MFlow Entertainment)

Threat Level: Playground Bully

Dude will mansplain, manipulate, malewife you into a dodgy friends-with benefits-setup, but he's not inherently evil-- just emotionally constipated. He's a misguided playboy with an unfortunate past, who's not actually as good in the sack as he thinks he is. But that won't stop him from jumping your bones any time he sees you. Loyal once he decides to go exclusive, and you'll never go hungry again with the way he keeps feeding you, but will reply with a "thank you" every time you tell him you love him.

Mostly, this boy is toxic because he is such. an. IDIOT. Everything you tell him will take 2-3 business days to process-- it's gonna get exhausting. If you're idiot-sexual, or just have a lot of time on your hands, then this is the guy for you.

Bachelor No. 8: Your best friend's boyfriend? REALLY?! 🪆

Name: Fighter

Series: Why R U? (DMD/Mandee)

Threat Level: Identity Thief

So he's dating your best friend, and he's doing an AWFUL job at it, but that's not stopping you, eh?

A closet case who's being relentlessly abused by his own father, so he decides to take the bullying out on you instead. But don't worry, he won't actually hit you. Might kiss you at your best friend (and his girlfriend)'s party though.

He's rolling in money and is generous in giving it to you, but he won't admit to feelings (feelings? eugh), especially if it means coming out to his family. Dumb as a doornail but somehow taking up Engineering-- the only consolation here is he'll take you out to an all-expense sexcapade at a random resort. But he won't clear things up with his girl until AFTER he's sexed you up. At which point, it's up to you, you rascal you, to patch things up with that poor, neglected best friend. God, the dumbest boys really do have the prettiest faces.

Bachelor No. 7: Want someone who'll friendzone you for Blackpink tickets? 🎈

Name: Khai

Series: Theory of Love (GMMTV)

Threat Level: Insurance Fraudster

We all have that one friend who's too hot for his own good, but when another person asks us for his number, we'd never give it out willingly, just because we want to spare this person THE HEADACHE of being with our gremlin of a friend. Non-committal, inconsiderate, and conceited to a fault, this guy will eat the last dumpling in your lunchbox without asking if you're still hungry, use your e-mail to subscribe to busty Only Fans content, share your Netflix password to his Flavor-of-the-Week, and ask you to answer for him during roll call so he won't fail his classes. Oh, and he'll make you buy Blackpink tickets that he'll never pay you back for.

With the emotional intelligence of a single fried peanut left in the brown baggy at the theater, you'll be relegated to the friendzone until you prove to him that you're desireable for other people. At which point he chases you, and swears he's a changed man, pinky promise. Let's see how long that'll last.

Bachelor No. 6: Seriously, you want the serial cheater? 💔

Name: Vee

Series: Love Mechanics (Rookie Thailand & WeTV Originals)

Threat Level: Adulterer

If Bachelor No. 7 promises to be a changed man, well this guy right here might not be able to keep that promise. But you'll still give him the benefit of the doubt right? *gives you bombastic side eye*

He will take advantage of you when you're drunk, and have sex with you while still being in a relationship himself. Then he'll act all shocked and heartbroken when he finds out his partner is doing the exact same thing. That's the pot calling the kettle bloody murder.

He will move in with you even though you're technically his side piece, fight with anyone who shows any interest in you, and will keep promising to break up with his ACTUAL girlfriend soon. Like, real soon. Just as soon as he finishes this infinity bagel...

God, if this character wasn't being played by Yin Anan, I swear he'd score higher on this list. Alas, op also has her color-blocking goggles on.

Bachelor No. 5: How about the guy who keeps stealing your job promotions? 🥊

Name: Nott

Series: War of Y: New Ship (Copy A Bangkok & AisPlay)

Threat Level: Labor Code and OSHA Violator

I get it, you're bored of the usual playboys. Let's find you someone scarier to mess with.

This guy right here isn't just your worst nightmare-- he's also the one guy who can destroy your career in one fell swoop. An actor with an ego the size of the MahaNakhon building, he'll sleep around with all the top bosses to get ahead and bypass you, but he'll also sleep WITH you as a lil' treat for himself.

He'll use you for popularity and better work opportunities, and will even steal your solo fans and your solo projects to get more famous. He'll drop you like a hot potato once he gets a better offer from the company YOU'VE been trying to join, and he'll take credit for the talent you've been showing to your shared audience all along.

But don't you worry, he says he loves you. He swears, ya'know? He just, um, *accidentally* slept with the guy who's blackmailing you. Oops.

Bachelor No. 4: Okay, let's try the brat who has too much of daddy's money. 🧨

Name: Yai

Series: Big Dragon The Series (Star Hunter Entertainment)

Threat Level: Drug Trafficker

What happens when a spoiled, selfish, entitled demon child gets too much access to daddy's black market money? He starts refusing to take no for an answer, forgoes consent, and just DRUGS people to submission.

Bachelor No. 4 is someone who was raised to get everything his heart desires, even at the expense of others. If his family wouldn't give it to him, his bodyguards certainly would. He will subject you to a constant parade of ME ME ME, where you and everyone around you must bend over backwards to give him what he wants, otherwise his billionaire father will definitely hear about this, Draco Malfoy-style.

He'll place you in the most dubious BDSM dungeon play this side of Bangkok, where he and his bodyguards don't exactly know what drug dosage they should inject you with, and which drug does what. But hey, at least you can trip on the fumes while this manchild tries to deal with his unresolved mommy issues.

Bachelor No. 3: Yes, Big Daddy (that's it. That's the tag) 🚩

Name: Kinn

Series: KinnPorsche the Series (Be On Cloud & IQIYI)

Threat Level: Mafia Boss

This dude has enough money to own you, your parents, your Aunt Chompoo, your second cousin Praew, and your neighbor's dog, so you shut the hell up and do what he says. He has no concept of consent, personal space, or boundaries, but every time you're upset he buys you a new car. Holidays and anniversaries are a logistical nightmare, because what do you give a guy who has everything?

(Um, your grand, beautiful body, DUH).

Anyway, you are now fully immersed in the sugar baby lifestyle. Forget about having your own dreams or aspirations, your life is now dedicated to running the shady family business, sleeping with your husband, and raising your children (wait, this ISN'T an omegaverse? Alright).

Can't leave the compound without Big Daddy, oh no. Your life is under constant surveillance and danger. Who are you talking to again? Why do you even need a phone anyway? All you'll ever need is next to Big Daddy over here. Friends? Family? They either move in, or they stay out. Remember: You. Cannot. Leave. This House. Without. Big Daddy. (Got it? Great, thanks, love you bye)

Also, you gotta be related somehow? That's... questionable, but eh, money is money.

Bachelor No. 2: In the mood for a sweet and psycho? 🏴

Name: Tonkla

Series: 4 Minutes (Be On Cloud & Viu Original)

Threat Level: Psychotic

With all this talk about toxic behaviors and red flags, you might be asking yourself, am I... also, a red flag?

If you're a character in 4 Minutes, well, you probably are. It's not your fault though-- you're a victim of the narrative.

Bachelor No. 2 just wants to curl up in his favorite chair, do his job, and have domestic sex with the love of his life for the rest of his living days, like a sweet ginger housecat. But the narrative had to go and kill his beloved brother, so off HE goes with a knife of his own to do some stabbies. In one psychotic-induced fit, he managed to upend the life of one mafia clan, one police officer, one homicidal student, and this random doctor who doesn't know what he's doing here anyway, and that's... very sexy of Bachelor No. 2. If you were gonna go psycho, might as well go FULL psycho, right? Don't worry, he'll still have time for you in between all the scheming. But you gotta scheme with him, okay? And you gotta accept the throuple, or else HE'LL DIE. Bet you didn't see that coming now, did you?

And finally... THIS BITCH

Bachelor No. 1: The demon the scriptures warned us about 🏴‍☠️

Name: Ming

Series: My Stand-In (YYDS Entertainment & IQIYI)

Threat Level: Beelzebub himself

Look, I know this list started out funny. But this is serious advice now: I beg you, if you ever have the misfortune of meeting a Ming in real life, please just RUN. Run and do not look back. No take-backs, no guilt, no "ooh, he'll change"-- NO. Run away. Do not give him an inch because he will 100% ask you for a hundred miles. In fact, running away may not be enough for this demon. You gotta do what you can to fully escape him.

Bachelor No. 10 (Stalker!Cir) and Bachelor No. 1 (Ming) actually have one thing in common, and may be closer to each other than any on this list-- it's impossible to break up with them because they WILL. CONSTANTLY. FOLLOW YOU. But if Stalker!Cir might be content to gaze at you from afar, Ming...

Ming WILL HAUNT YOU BEYOND THE GRAVE.

He will live in your home. Use your stuff. Work at your previous employment. Keep in touch with your family members and friends. Take ownership of all your properties. Track and interrogate everyone who's ever met you. Destroy the people who wronged you (absent of him, of course. He does no wrong). Hire a shaman to contact your soul. DO A SEANCE TO TALK TO YOUR SOUL.

PHYSICALLY STOP YOU AT THE DOORWAY TO HEAVEN AND CONVINCE YOU TO RETURN TO HIM. BIND YOUR SOULS TOGETHER SO YOU WILL ONLY RECOGNIZE EACH OTHER IN ALL REINCARNATIONS.

You know, demon shit.

I am convinced that the reason why Joe reincarnated into another body, despite actually desiring to be free to join his departed parents' souls, is because Ming ORDERED HIS SOUL TO RETURN through that creepy shaman. Ming is Beelzebub confirmed.

No good can come from interacting with a man who can control souls. His money, his influence, his power means nothing if it means your soul is incarcerated with his for eternity. Even the supposed immortal vampires over at Thai gay twilight couldn't do that, why in the Supernatural can Ming?

Then again, maybe you're into that shit. Maybe an eternity bound to this motherfucker sounds like heaven to you.

Maybe you like the headaches and the tears and the constant guessing whether you'll make it until the next sunrise, like the world's longest game of Russian Roulette.

In which case, you do you friend 😁 Happy sippin' and see you on the other side! 😈

P.S. Yes, I did not include Vegas on this list, not because I don't think he's a red flag, but because, to be honest, compared to some of the characters on here, I don't think he's... that bad. 🤣🤣🤣 When he kidnapped and tortured Pete, he wasn't looking to get a boyfriend out of it unlike the entries on this list-- he was initially interrogating an enemy. It's not his fault he and Pete have so much trauma they Stockholm Syndromed each other into a relationship. And the sex was consensual, even in his relationship with Tawan, who was also using him to extort fortune from their clan. This is a step above many of the characters on here, who took advantage of their partners vulnerabilities, and SA-ed or downright R-worded them at some parts of the narrative. So no, Vegas, a murderer, is not that bad as a boyfriend (look at me defending actual killer Vegas 🤣🤣🤣 Guess I like arsenic too.)

#thai bl #toxic bl #toxic characters

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Translation Notes w/ Pim

Ball Boy Tactics Ep. 1

Per my last email abt the Gaga subs for this show, and bc my beloved mutual @watchthisqqq even vaguely alluded to not wanting to pay for another subscription, I’ve decided to do some Korean translation notes for Ball Boy Tactics. We’re only a few episodes into it airing, so fingers crossed the Gaga subs improve as the episodes go on. But just in case they don’t ☝️ I’ll be here to clarify some dialogue so that no one needs to run to iQiYi which admittedly does have some better subs for this show.

Disclaimer: I am not a native Korean speaker, but I have studied the language for many years. If I’m not confident in a translation or in the cultural context for a line then I won’t include it in the notes.

One Thing About This Show

They actually utilize dialogue really well. The writers/performers have done a really great job of using the dialogue to establish who these characters are. The way they talk and the words they decide to use do a really good job of showing us what these people are like and how they come off to others. So, as someone who’s really nitpicky about dialogue and is often like “hmmmmm a young man in his twenties probably would never say that to someone ever :/“ I’m having a lot of fun being like “yeah this dude probably would say that” lol

That's why it was a little frustrating to watch those character-defining aspects of the dialogue be poorly translated.

So, Who Are These Characters Then?

Just from what they say, and nothing else (not even considering how the lines are delivered!) here's how I would describe our 2 leads:

Ji Won: sincere, shy, meek, apologetic, overly-polite at times. This is someone who really avoids rocking the boat and tries his best not to piss anyone off. Does not exude the vibe of a national athlete who’s literally won international competitions.

Jeong Woo: suave, sarcastic, confident, playful. (Easy, breezy, beautiful, CoverGirl). A guy who would have no qualms telling someone to fuck off. He also has a pretty dry sense of humor, very deadpan. This often leads to Jiwon taking what he says literally.

I feel like some of those personalities were lost in the translations I saw on Gaga, so let's see if I can at least address the most egregious issues I saw

Honorifics/존댓말

This is more of a note rather than a mistranslation, but in this first episode, before they really know each other, Jiwon relies heavily on formal language with Jeongwoo. It’s very quickly dropped to standard polite and then to informal/casual language as they get closer. But while Jeongwoo uses standard polite language at the beginning with Jiwon, Jiwon on the other hand will use very formal language at times when he’s very apologetic or very thankful.

For example:

When Jeongwoo brings him his water bottle at the gym he says 고맙습니다 which is a very polite/formal way of saying thank you.

What stands out about these moments for me is that Jiwon takes his interactions with other people very seriously. In the above scene, it’s just someone returning his water bottle. This moment that could have been a simple “oh hey thanks, man” turns more into a sincere thank you. This definitely does seem like just a part of his personality as someone who’s known to be shy, but it could have also developed as a defense mechanism during his time in the spotlight since he was probably expected to be on his best behavior at all times (lest people say nasty things online about him). His sincerity and formality in these moments does read as genuine though.

Dronk Ji Won

So, when Ji Won is absolutely sloshed and mistakes Jeong Woo for his designated driver, there's a quite of few mistranslations.

What he said was:

I reek of alcohol, don’t I? Until we arrive, I’ll keep my mouth shut.

- said in a tone of “noooo worries, alllll goooood, problemo solvedo” as is customary with sloshed folk

Although Jiwon is bolder here than when he’s sober, he’s still being very considerate (and adorable)

My absolute favorite part of this scene is when Jeong Woo drops Jiwon off and Jiwon starts to come to his senses a bit.

When he realizes that he probably just forced Jeongwoo into driving him home and he says:

He’s actually asking him:

By chance, do also do designated driving?

Jeongwoo actually replies more along the lines of you don’t think so?

Very much the vibe of “I think you already know the answer to that question, chief”

This mistranslation peeved me a bit because with Jiwon’s line it’s clear that he’s already realizing that he mistook Jeongwoo for the actual designated driver he originally called and is clinging desperately onto the hope that maybe, juuuuust maybe he also happened to be a DD on the side. And Jeongwoo’s reply clearly shows his propensity for sassiness. He’s a little annoyed and inconvenienced, but is keeping it light and fun (and also plans on taking this man’s car lmao).

Give Me My Focking Keys

Ok this one isn’t that bad, but it doesn’t flow as well with the scene. What he actually says is more along the lines of

Whenever I see you, I want to tell you to live more shamelessly

because Jiwon goes straight into apologizing profusely and Jeongwoo tells him that Jiwon should have just demanded his keys back and told Jeongwoo to fuck off.

So, not that bad, but I didn’t love the translation they went with. Because he’s not asking him a question, he’s telling him what he thinks about him; that he’s a bit too meek for his own good. At least sober, anyway.

Ok that was episode 1! I whipped this up during my lunch break, so I’ll post the following episodes after work 🤲

#repost to read later #haven’t started the show but plan to

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