sass-ruby

[sass-ruby]

I'm also on sun's side

That may seem like I'm an "obsessive sun defender" or whatever, but nah. Sun has every right to crash out after three years of empty promises, mistreatment, manipulation ect ect

As a survivor of emotional abuse myself that lasted for years AND IS STILL LASTING, sun is absolutely valid in how angry he feels

Despite everything, he decided to give moon another chance and trusted moon but moon broke his promise.

How wouldn't sun be angry? Yes, the amount of anger he feels isn't healthy but.. all of it is pent up rage, rage he suppressed

And, he's supposed to what?? Suppress it even MORE because he needs to be the "bigger person"?? That'll make it WORSE dude

He needs to actually let himself feel the anger, and definitely needs to talk to SOMEBODY about it, somebody that'll actually listen, that is.

If he did cut contact with moon or even the entire family— I'm gonna say this right now, I really wouldn't blame him. It might be for the better honestly

I don't think that will happen, though, but I don't think sun will make up with moon so soon either

Only time will tell, I suppose

AS PROMISED, I'LL BE RANTING ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Sooo- this episode was something, damn. I wasn't expecting an immediate follow up after yesterday (since they usually wait a few days after stuff like this)

I'll admit, at first I was confused at the fact sun was yelling at moon for leaving him alone when he literally asked to be left alone, but I thought about it more and now I understand

To explain, it was a trauma response. Sun is SO used to moon arguing, yelling and always escalating the argument that when he doesn't do that, it feels uncomfortable, weird. It makes sun feel the need to be cautious, like moon will suddenly blow up if he lets his guard down for a split second

Every time something like this happens, moon lets his anger get the best of him. A rather recent example being where he mentions that nexus is sun's fault the second things didn't go his way

Sun isn't doing this for no reason, he's trying to protect himself. The way he acted seems aggressive, but that's all he truly knows in this situation.

Another thing, one he said himself— it's hard for him to believe moon fully changed his mindset all of a sudden in the SAME day. And guess what adds to the wound?

MOLTEN was the one who got moon to actually you know, TRY, meanwhile.. sun has been doing the same for three years, three whole years. Yet, nothing changed except the physical abuse which sun mentioned himself.

Imagine how much that hurts. It reminds me of that one audio

"Why can't you accept that he might be living a good, honest life?"

"Because I wanted that brother! I wanted the brother who would comfort me when I needed him instead of brushing me off like I'm nothing!! Why do you all get that brother??"

"..."

".. If moondrop has truly changed, then that means he was ALWAYS capable of change. But- I just wasn't worth changing for."

IT MAKES ME SAD. I am basically throwing the brick at myself, goodness-

I don't agree much with molten today either.

I love him and I'm happy he's trying to help but eh. He clearly hasn't been around moon as long as sun has to know some stuff

"perhaps, encouragement is required", really now? Really??

Sun has believed moon over and over again, he listened to moon's whole sweet talk and empty promises. Although, as he said himself, moon has not held up to 98% of them.

I don't blame sun for not believing moon. Because like— give me one good he should. Right! There isn't.

If moon truly wants to change with his whole heart, he shouldn't expect sun to believe him. No matter how much it hurts, he needs to accept this is his OWN doing.

Sun has given him multiple chances, but moon keeps repeating the same damn mistakes.

He doesn't owe moon ANYTHING. He doesn't owe him the benefit of the doubt, or forgiveness or whatever, NO.

Sun is tired. Tired of his trust getting shattered by the same person 24/7. He's done with moon's bullshit that has been going on for years

I'm still kinda mad at molten for taking his rays tbh. Sun already feels as if people don't take him seriously, now imagine how he feels without his hair

I feel like that just made things worse. I get it's for the bit, but couldn't you at LEAST choose a more fitting time?? Preferably one where sun and moon aren't arguing?

Also. Molten.. MOLTEN WHAT ARE YOU FORESHADOWING...

"Your 'arrogance' will be your downfall at one point. Maybe not now, but later. Do not fall in the sand pit." WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN

Whenever someone crashes out like this, something ends up happening, something real bad.

Speaking of foreshadowing, damn, dark sun's words are really coming into play right now

"Every sun hates their moon. They just don't know it yet."

I actually wouldn't be surprised if an episode titled "Sun HATES moon, In vrchat!" came out one of these days, I genuinely wouldn't

This is all from years of pent up rage. Rage from being mistreated so, so much

He slammed his door at the end of the video, he is clearly VERY pissed

Honestly- sun in this whole situation reminds me of an isle of the dogs audio

"I am not your pet. I never liked you, I never cared about you. I bite." WHY IS IT HIM

WAAAAAAAA

And and- I've seen some people call sun petty for dragging it on. Like. Motherfucker- he is completely VALID in doing that and crashing out for reasons I explained like 100 times in previous posts+in this post too

Not to mention, sun hasn't talked to absolutely ANYONE about this whole thing going on. He's dealing with it himself, while moon on the other hand always has someone to talk to, mostly molten

Sure, you could argue that molten DID try to talk to sun today. Even so, he was more so focusing on moon, and not really focusing on how sun might feel.

Sun doesn't need advice right now or whatever, he needs SOMEONE to validate and empathize with him and his emotions. To treat him like an actual person!

I will say, I have NO idea how this will end up

Will sun and moon stop being brothers? Will they make up? Will moon ACTUALLY end up unlocking his emotions?? Will sun die or what????

I don't know what to expect from this. I'm happy sun's finally defending himself and not putting up with moon anymore, but what will happen in the future? What will be the so called lesson of this arc? Will there even be one?

I think that's all I have to say unless I'm forgetting something. It's 2 am for me rn lmao 😭

Anyways, TOODLESSSSS CHAT!!

[sass-ruby]

Exactly

Sun needs to actually talk to someone. He needs someone to LISTEN instead of pressuring him to believe and forgive moon like molten did

Because honestly, if I was sun, I wouldn't believe moon either.

I think in order for Sun to move on, he needs to admit he hates Moon.

It's not out of malice but after three years, after all the bullcrap happened, Sun finally admitted he was treated unfairly by Moon.

He admitted what Moon done to him is wrong, that he is right when he doesn't take Moon bull crap anymore

Just the only thing he is still hesitant to tell himself is that he hates Moon.

Because He still loves him, but love and hate go in the same way. Sun can love Moon till death and he still can be bitter about what happened.

But he couldn't accept that.

Because if Sun said he is hating Moon, that means he is not different from Eclipse or Dark Sun or Killer Sun, that means he is being ungrateful for what Moon has been sacrificed for his family.

That means all the put up, the excuse he tells himself about Moon is meaningless.

That means Sun is alone.

But because he doesn't admit that, his anger is still building up, he still hurts.

And he never knows peace

[sass-ruby]

Yep.

Either something really bad happens (usually, there's lots of tension before someone gets hurt or dies) or sun locks up his emotions while moon unlocks his own, OR something else entirely. Who knows?

I'm scared for what today's episode is gonna be 😭

I'm DYING for a sun centric episode on all of this, like PLEASE. The show mostly focuses on moon and I am honestly tired of it

I think in order for Sun to move on, he needs to admit he hates Moon.

It's not out of malice but after three years, after all the bullcrap happened, Sun finally admitted he was treated unfairly by Moon.

He admitted what Moon done to him is wrong, that he is right when he doesn't take Moon bull crap anymore

Just the only thing he is still hesitant to tell himself is that he hates Moon.

Because He still loves him, but love and hate go in the same way. Sun can love Moon till death and he still can be bitter about what happened.

But he couldn't accept that.

Because if Sun said he is hating Moon, that means he is not different from Eclipse or Dark Sun or Killer Sun, that means he is being ungrateful for what Moon has been sacrificed for his family.

That means all the put up, the excuse he tells himself about Moon is meaningless.

That means Sun is alone.

But because he doesn't admit that, his anger is still building up, he still hurts.

And he never knows peace

[sass-ruby]

This reminds me of a thought I had, and that was that sun has this constant state that goes from loving moon to absolutely hating him

He loves moon for all the times he was actually there for him, for helping him in life-death situations ect ect

But absolutely despises him for the mistreatment he has received from moon, for all the empty promises, for all the abuse and so on

Yet, he suppresses that part of himself as much as he can for reasons you've already said

And now, I fear that part of himself is finally coming out. All that pain and sorrow is coming out, all at once

All those years of pent up rage.. They're finally coming into play

Sure, sun's patient, but moon breaking his promise really was the last straw.

I think in order for Sun to move on, he needs to admit he hates Moon.

It's not out of malice but after three years, after all the bullcrap happened, Sun finally admitted he was treated unfairly by Moon.

He admitted what Moon done to him is wrong, that he is right when he doesn't take Moon bull crap anymore

Just the only thing he is still hesitant to tell himself is that he hates Moon.

Because He still loves him, but love and hate go in the same way. Sun can love Moon till death and he still can be bitter about what happened.

But he couldn't accept that.

Because if Sun said he is hating Moon, that means he is not different from Eclipse or Dark Sun or Killer Sun, that means he is being ungrateful for what Moon has been sacrificed for his family.

That means all the put up, the excuse he tells himself about Moon is meaningless.

That means Sun is alone.

But because he doesn't admit that, his anger is still building up, he still hurts.

And he never knows peace

[sass-ruby]

YEAH

Let moon experience trying to get sun's trust back like new moon did

Moon doesn't just get to be forgiven after everything, absolutely not.

He needs to work for that forgiveness, he needs to actually start changing his ways for sun to believe him. Because it's been proven far too many times that sun can't trust his own brother.

AS PROMISED, I'LL BE RANTING ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Sooo- this episode was something, damn. I wasn't expecting an immediate follow up after yesterday (since they usually wait a few days after stuff like this)

I'll admit, at first I was confused at the fact sun was yelling at moon for leaving him alone when he literally asked to be left alone, but I thought about it more and now I understand

To explain, it was a trauma response. Sun is SO used to moon arguing, yelling and always escalating the argument that when he doesn't do that, it feels uncomfortable, weird. It makes sun feel the need to be cautious, like moon will suddenly blow up if he lets his guard down for a split second

Every time something like this happens, moon lets his anger get the best of him. A rather recent example being where he mentions that nexus is sun's fault the second things didn't go his way

Sun isn't doing this for no reason, he's trying to protect himself. The way he acted seems aggressive, but that's all he truly knows in this situation.

Another thing, one he said himself— it's hard for him to believe moon fully changed his mindset all of a sudden in the SAME day. And guess what adds to the wound?

MOLTEN was the one who got moon to actually you know, TRY, meanwhile.. sun has been doing the same for three years, three whole years. Yet, nothing changed except the physical abuse which sun mentioned himself.

Imagine how much that hurts. It reminds me of that one audio

"Why can't you accept that he might be living a good, honest life?"

"Because I wanted that brother! I wanted the brother who would comfort me when I needed him instead of brushing me off like I'm nothing!! Why do you all get that brother??"

"..."

".. If moondrop has truly changed, then that means he was ALWAYS capable of change. But- I just wasn't worth changing for."

IT MAKES ME SAD. I am basically throwing the brick at myself, goodness-

I don't agree much with molten today either.

I love him and I'm happy he's trying to help but eh. He clearly hasn't been around moon as long as sun has to know some stuff

"perhaps, encouragement is required", really now? Really??

Sun has believed moon over and over again, he listened to moon's whole sweet talk and empty promises. Although, as he said himself, moon has not held up to 98% of them.

I don't blame sun for not believing moon. Because like— give me one good he should. Right! There isn't.

If moon truly wants to change with his whole heart, he shouldn't expect sun to believe him. No matter how much it hurts, he needs to accept this is his OWN doing.

Sun has given him multiple chances, but moon keeps repeating the same damn mistakes.

He doesn't owe moon ANYTHING. He doesn't owe him the benefit of the doubt, or forgiveness or whatever, NO.

Sun is tired. Tired of his trust getting shattered by the same person 24/7. He's done with moon's bullshit that has been going on for years

I'm still kinda mad at molten for taking his rays tbh. Sun already feels as if people don't take him seriously, now imagine how he feels without his hair

I feel like that just made things worse. I get it's for the bit, but couldn't you at LEAST choose a more fitting time?? Preferably one where sun and moon aren't arguing?

Also. Molten.. MOLTEN WHAT ARE YOU FORESHADOWING...

"Your 'arrogance' will be your downfall at one point. Maybe not now, but later. Do not fall in the sand pit." WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN

Whenever someone crashes out like this, something ends up happening, something real bad.

Speaking of foreshadowing, damn, dark sun's words are really coming into play right now

"Every sun hates their moon. They just don't know it yet."

I actually wouldn't be surprised if an episode titled "Sun HATES moon, In vrchat!" came out one of these days, I genuinely wouldn't

This is all from years of pent up rage. Rage from being mistreated so, so much

He slammed his door at the end of the video, he is clearly VERY pissed

Honestly- sun in this whole situation reminds me of an isle of the dogs audio

"I am not your pet. I never liked you, I never cared about you. I bite." WHY IS IT HIM

WAAAAAAAA

And and- I've seen some people call sun petty for dragging it on. Like. Motherfucker- he is completely VALID in doing that and crashing out for reasons I explained like 100 times in previous posts+in this post too

Not to mention, sun hasn't talked to absolutely ANYONE about this whole thing going on. He's dealing with it himself, while moon on the other hand always has someone to talk to, mostly molten

Sure, you could argue that molten DID try to talk to sun today. Even so, he was more so focusing on moon, and not really focusing on how sun might feel.

Sun doesn't need advice right now or whatever, he needs SOMEONE to validate and empathize with him and his emotions. To treat him like an actual person!

I will say, I have NO idea how this will end up

Will sun and moon stop being brothers? Will they make up? Will moon ACTUALLY end up unlocking his emotions?? Will sun die or what????

I don't know what to expect from this. I'm happy sun's finally defending himself and not putting up with moon anymore, but what will happen in the future? What will be the so called lesson of this arc? Will there even be one?

I think that's all I have to say unless I'm forgetting something. It's 2 am for me rn lmao 😭

Anyways, TOODLESSSSS CHAT!!

[sass-ruby]

Nah but same

If sun does end up forgiving moon, I hope it's at least after MONTHS, even a year of moon doing actual work to change for once

Because if he just forgives him soon after everything.. what was the whole point of this arc? What was the point of sun calling out moon's bullshit?

Just for the drama? Yeah no. I'm tired of plot holes in tsams

But.. if I'm gonna be very honest, it doesn't seem to be going in that direction which I'm glad for

I still don't know what to expect tho 😭

AS PROMISED, I'LL BE RANTING ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Sooo- this episode was something, damn. I wasn't expecting an immediate follow up after yesterday (since they usually wait a few days after stuff like this)

I'll admit, at first I was confused at the fact sun was yelling at moon for leaving him alone when he literally asked to be left alone, but I thought about it more and now I understand

To explain, it was a trauma response. Sun is SO used to moon arguing, yelling and always escalating the argument that when he doesn't do that, it feels uncomfortable, weird. It makes sun feel the need to be cautious, like moon will suddenly blow up if he lets his guard down for a split second

Every time something like this happens, moon lets his anger get the best of him. A rather recent example being where he mentions that nexus is sun's fault the second things didn't go his way

Sun isn't doing this for no reason, he's trying to protect himself. The way he acted seems aggressive, but that's all he truly knows in this situation.

Another thing, one he said himself— it's hard for him to believe moon fully changed his mindset all of a sudden in the SAME day. And guess what adds to the wound?

MOLTEN was the one who got moon to actually you know, TRY, meanwhile.. sun has been doing the same for three years, three whole years. Yet, nothing changed except the physical abuse which sun mentioned himself.

Imagine how much that hurts. It reminds me of that one audio

"Why can't you accept that he might be living a good, honest life?"

"Because I wanted that brother! I wanted the brother who would comfort me when I needed him instead of brushing me off like I'm nothing!! Why do you all get that brother??"

"..."

".. If moondrop has truly changed, then that means he was ALWAYS capable of change. But- I just wasn't worth changing for."

IT MAKES ME SAD. I am basically throwing the brick at myself, goodness-

I don't agree much with molten today either.

I love him and I'm happy he's trying to help but eh. He clearly hasn't been around moon as long as sun has to know some stuff

"perhaps, encouragement is required", really now? Really??

Sun has believed moon over and over again, he listened to moon's whole sweet talk and empty promises. Although, as he said himself, moon has not held up to 98% of them.

I don't blame sun for not believing moon. Because like— give me one good he should. Right! There isn't.

If moon truly wants to change with his whole heart, he shouldn't expect sun to believe him. No matter how much it hurts, he needs to accept this is his OWN doing.

Sun has given him multiple chances, but moon keeps repeating the same damn mistakes.

He doesn't owe moon ANYTHING. He doesn't owe him the benefit of the doubt, or forgiveness or whatever, NO.

Sun is tired. Tired of his trust getting shattered by the same person 24/7. He's done with moon's bullshit that has been going on for years

I'm still kinda mad at molten for taking his rays tbh. Sun already feels as if people don't take him seriously, now imagine how he feels without his hair

I feel like that just made things worse. I get it's for the bit, but couldn't you at LEAST choose a more fitting time?? Preferably one where sun and moon aren't arguing?

Also. Molten.. MOLTEN WHAT ARE YOU FORESHADOWING...

"Your 'arrogance' will be your downfall at one point. Maybe not now, but later. Do not fall in the sand pit." WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN

Whenever someone crashes out like this, something ends up happening, something real bad.

Speaking of foreshadowing, damn, dark sun's words are really coming into play right now

"Every sun hates their moon. They just don't know it yet."

I actually wouldn't be surprised if an episode titled "Sun HATES moon, In vrchat!" came out one of these days, I genuinely wouldn't

This is all from years of pent up rage. Rage from being mistreated so, so much

He slammed his door at the end of the video, he is clearly VERY pissed

Honestly- sun in this whole situation reminds me of an isle of the dogs audio

"I am not your pet. I never liked you, I never cared about you. I bite." WHY IS IT HIM

WAAAAAAAA

And and- I've seen some people call sun petty for dragging it on. Like. Motherfucker- he is completely VALID in doing that and crashing out for reasons I explained like 100 times in previous posts+in this post too

Not to mention, sun hasn't talked to absolutely ANYONE about this whole thing going on. He's dealing with it himself, while moon on the other hand always has someone to talk to, mostly molten

Sure, you could argue that molten DID try to talk to sun today. Even so, he was more so focusing on moon, and not really focusing on how sun might feel.

Sun doesn't need advice right now or whatever, he needs SOMEONE to validate and empathize with him and his emotions. To treat him like an actual person!

I will say, I have NO idea how this will end up

Will sun and moon stop being brothers? Will they make up? Will moon ACTUALLY end up unlocking his emotions?? Will sun die or what????

I don't know what to expect from this. I'm happy sun's finally defending himself and not putting up with moon anymore, but what will happen in the future? What will be the so called lesson of this arc? Will there even be one?

I think that's all I have to say unless I'm forgetting something. It's 2 am for me rn lmao 😭

Anyways, TOODLESSSSS CHAT!!

[sass-ruby]

AS PROMISED, I'LL BE RANTING ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Sooo- this episode was something, damn. I wasn't expecting an immediate follow up after yesterday (since they usually wait a few days after stuff like this)

I'll admit, at first I was confused at the fact sun was yelling at moon for leaving him alone when he literally asked to be left alone, but I thought about it more and now I understand

To explain, it was a trauma response. Sun is SO used to moon arguing, yelling and always escalating the argument that when he doesn't do that, it feels uncomfortable, weird. It makes sun feel the need to be cautious, like moon will suddenly blow up if he lets his guard down for a split second

Every time something like this happens, moon lets his anger get the best of him. A rather recent example being where he mentions that nexus is sun's fault the second things didn't go his way

Sun isn't doing this for no reason, he's trying to protect himself. The way he acted seems aggressive, but that's all he truly knows in this situation.

Another thing, one he said himself— it's hard for him to believe moon fully changed his mindset all of a sudden in the SAME day. And guess what adds to the wound?

MOLTEN was the one who got moon to actually you know, TRY, meanwhile.. sun has been doing the same for three years, three whole years. Yet, nothing changed except the physical abuse which sun mentioned himself.

Imagine how much that hurts. It reminds me of that one audio

"Why can't you accept that he might be living a good, honest life?"

"Because I wanted that brother! I wanted the brother who would comfort me when I needed him instead of brushing me off like I'm nothing!! Why do you all get that brother??"

"..."

".. If moondrop has truly changed, then that means he was ALWAYS capable of change. But- I just wasn't worth changing for."

IT MAKES ME SAD. I am basically throwing the brick at myself, goodness-

I don't agree much with molten today either.

I love him and I'm happy he's trying to help but eh. He clearly hasn't been around moon as long as sun has to know some stuff

"perhaps, encouragement is required", really now? Really??

Sun has believed moon over and over again, he listened to moon's whole sweet talk and empty promises. Although, as he said himself, moon has not held up to 98% of them.

I don't blame sun for not believing moon. Because like— give me one good he should. Right! There isn't.

If moon truly wants to change with his whole heart, he shouldn't expect sun to believe him. No matter how much it hurts, he needs to accept this is his OWN doing.

Sun has given him multiple chances, but moon keeps repeating the same damn mistakes.

He doesn't owe moon ANYTHING. He doesn't owe him the benefit of the doubt, or forgiveness or whatever, NO.

Sun is tired. Tired of his trust getting shattered by the same person 24/7. He's done with moon's bullshit that has been going on for years

I'm still kinda mad at molten for taking his rays tbh. Sun already feels as if people don't take him seriously, now imagine how he feels without his hair

I feel like that just made things worse. I get it's for the bit, but couldn't you at LEAST choose a more fitting time?? Preferably one where sun and moon aren't arguing?

Also. Molten.. MOLTEN WHAT ARE YOU FORESHADOWING...

"Your 'arrogance' will be your downfall at one point. Maybe not now, but later. Do not fall in the sand pit." WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN

Whenever someone crashes out like this, something ends up happening, something real bad.

Speaking of foreshadowing, damn, dark sun's words are really coming into play right now

"Every sun hates their moon. They just don't know it yet."

I actually wouldn't be surprised if an episode titled "Sun HATES moon, In vrchat!" came out one of these days, I genuinely wouldn't

This is all from years of pent up rage. Rage from being mistreated so, so much

He slammed his door at the end of the video, he is clearly VERY pissed

Honestly- sun in this whole situation reminds me of an isle of the dogs audio

"I am not your pet. I never liked you, I never cared about you. I bite." WHY IS IT HIM

WAAAAAAAA

And and- I've seen some people call sun petty for dragging it on. Like. Motherfucker- he is completely VALID in doing that and crashing out for reasons I explained like 100 times in previous posts+in this post too

Not to mention, sun hasn't talked to absolutely ANYONE about this whole thing going on. He's dealing with it himself, while moon on the other hand always has someone to talk to, mostly molten

Sure, you could argue that molten DID try to talk to sun today. Even so, he was more so focusing on moon, and not really focusing on how sun might feel.

Sun doesn't need advice right now or whatever, he needs SOMEONE to validate and empathize with him and his emotions. To treat him like an actual person!

I will say, I have NO idea how this will end up

Will sun and moon stop being brothers? Will they make up? Will moon ACTUALLY end up unlocking his emotions?? Will sun die or what????

I don't know what to expect from this. I'm happy sun's finally defending himself and not putting up with moon anymore, but what will happen in the future? What will be the so called lesson of this arc? Will there even be one?

I think that's all I have to say unless I'm forgetting something. It's 2 am for me rn lmao 😭

Anyways, TOODLESSSSS CHAT!!

[sass-ruby]

Bro, if moon ends up unlocking his emotions.. I hope that it won't be sun forgiving him and having to help him, ignoring his own in the process, no.

That'd be stupid. Sun is pissed at moon because of the fact he promised not to keep secrets, but did it anyway— despite sun giving him the benefit of doubt after YEARS of physical and mental abuse

I don't want sun to just forgive him. Moon needs to actually change and THEN we'll talk about forgiving

Honestly, I really hope it'll be more in the way in which moon realizes just how strong sun really is rather than weak.

I wish for moon to FINALLY understand everything he's put sun through, why sun is acting the way he is and all of that.

Though, I'm wondering how moon's behaviour will change if he gets his emotions back because I don't think they'd make him the same as he is now, nor do I think he'd be like new moon

One of my close friends (love you pookie <3) thinks that maybe his anger would turn into sadness and MAN I LOVE THAT IDEA

If they go with that, I imagine that he'd be that one person who starts crying during arguments and genuinely can't control it

Then again, I really don't know what to expect

So, SO much can happen

AND NOW I'D CONTINUE WRITING BUT TSAMS POSTED AND APPARENTLY MOON GAVE UP???? AJAKKAKSJS??????

I'LL BE BACK TO RANT ABOUT THE NEW EPISODE, CHAT

TRUST

[sass-ruby]

Oh buddy.. you don't even wanna know..

(this reminds me of myself in like 2022 when I wasn't aware what it was but kept seeing animatics about it 😭 and then I started watching it and BOOOOOM!! 3 years of this show. I haven't changed to another fandom in three whole years literally)

What the hell is the Sun and Moon show and why is everyone so obsessed with it you're scaring me

[sass-ruby]

THIS!!

Nah but some of the writing tsams does absolutely SUCKS, sorry not sorry

I really, and I mean REALLY hope that rosiebell isn't in a relationship with sun

It's only been two weeks for goodness sake

I hate this

Hi. Soooo am not the only one who sees Rosiebell x Sun as weird, right?

Respectfully, to all Rosiebell x Sun shippers out there.. this post isn't for you.

Don't Like Don't Read.

For starters, before anyone says it was confirmed on stream that Sun's getting a partner, I know. I also know it's most likely Rosiebell because of that one trip to Nice Creator's place where his Sun got married to an individual named Rosemary.

Which leads to the question- Vin why are you making this post? To spread negativity?

Both yes and no.

I'm brutally honest or so I'm told but Sun being with Rosiebell is the weirdest fucking crap to me considering she's been alive for TWO WEEKS. DOES THAT NOT RING ANY ALARMS FOR Y'ALL?? SURE ANIMATRONIC AGES DON'T WORK THE SAME AS HUMAN AGES DO BUT SHE'S STILL A DEVELOPING AI, EVEN IF SHE WAS MADE AS AN ADULT.

You could theoretically say "Oh but our time and theirs could be different" I would agree, only problem is the most different it could be is with A MONTH. WHICH IS ONCE MORE NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR DEVELOPMENT.

Plus, if Rosiebell's whole introduction was to be Sun's partner she might as well just not be a character, IF AT ALL. It makes her another useless side character WHICH I DON'T WANT HER TO BE. I LIKE HER A LOTTT.

If I'm going to bite further, I know the community has been YEARNING for Sun to get a partner.. but my friends, this is NOT THE WAY. Sun still needs to work out things himself from the past and fuck even currently the present with the whole sibling fight.

That's not the only issue though, I'M FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF FANON SHIT BECOMING CANON SHIT. CAN YOU GUYS STOP FOR CRYING OUT LOUD??!!! THIS HAPPENED WITH SOLAR AND NEBULA TOO. WHATS THE POINT OF FANON IF ITS GOING TO BECOME CANON????

Let me make a statement I love tsams, all the VAs are very talented people but even I don't always agree with how things go.

Hate me if you must but I can't go on with this. Two weeks of filler..? Give me a damn break...

[sass-ruby]

Am I the only one who'll go batshit insane if the person rosiebell is dating ends up being sun?

Why? Well first off all, I don't like the fact sun's gonna find love in general (they confirmed he will)

It's just weird to me because sun doesn't even seem like the type to be in a relationship. He has been single for like, three years. I find it stupid to give him a love interest out of a sudden after THAT much time.

Plus, it's so unneeded, man- the whole show is about brothers and found family yet.. they're including romance in characters which don't really fit it

An example is solar, literally there were two videos on solar x nebula and then it never got mentioned again. No lore, no storyline, no ANYTHING. What was the whole point of making that happen??

Second, it's odd she's in a relationship in general.. she has been alive for ONLY TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS

And she's somehow in a relationship?? How???

No offense to tsams, but that seems like terrible writing.

The only instance where it could make sense is if HER creator simply made an animatronic whose purpose was to be with her, romantically

Like, with day and night. Correct me if I'm wrong but they were programmed to be with andromeda, right?

Maybe rosiebell has the same thing with some different animatronic!

(I'm trying to cope with the fact it might be sun.)

THOUGH I WILL SAY, it was pretty funny watching the others spy on rosiebell to figure out who she's talking to 😭

Even so, I will still cry if that person was sun. Trust me, I WILL

Sob

[sass-ruby]

Honestly, there are so many things that could happen, I honestly don't even know what to expect 😭

Althoughhhhh, I've been thinking— today is august 4th, right? And that means sun goes bald today

Well, one of my really close friends (ilh <33) has a theory that it'll be moon's payback for sun's "pettiness" which tbh is likely to happen

So, what if they both start getting back at one another? Like-

Moon pulls something on sun? Sun does something else back (and vice versa)

I imagine that this would start harmless but would quickly escalate, turning the pranks (?) dangerous

And this would really only fuck up their relationship even more, probably creating resentment between the two

This is just a random thought lol

Edit: NEVERMIND

I saw this

It would've been interesting tho

Sobs

And it's kinda stupid to me that we had that whole ass heated argument between sun and moon only for it's lore to be continued after probably two weeks 💔

Like, I get it was a donation goal but ehhhhh I don't like it

With the way things go, Sun or Moon will blow up.

And I bet it will be Moon the one who snaps first. Because he couldn't stand the way Sun acts around him, completely not let him in his eyes.

And the more Moon is aggressive, the more Sun will grow shallow and apathetic around Moon.

Soon or later, Moon would say something out of line again, and this time, he might be using Dazzle as the one he weaponized.

"Oh yeah!!! Keep acting high and might like that Sun!!!! Because no one actually wants to be around you!!!! You don't even know how to treat your daughter without spoiling her because you feel guilty!!!! You are so blind that you convinced yourself you are higher than me because you are not a murderer!!!! Guess what!!!! You are the killer of your daughter's dead corpse!!!!"

Or something like...

"If you don't want me anymore, I can leave!!!! You treated me like garbage Sun!!! And you wonder why I leave you back then!!!! Because I couldn't stand you!!!"

And imagine Sun grows so numb to Moon, instead of walking away like usual, he just nonchalantly says.

"Don't say something if you don't want me to say something worse back."

"Don't threaten me Moon. If you can't control what comes out of your mouth, then I suggest you need to shut up."

Or....

"Then what do you want me to do, Moon? You can't change. And no matter what I say, you still manage to twist it about you. Oh poor me, I have a problem. Excuse and excuse.... Well, screw your emotions Moon! I honestly don't care."

I hope they fight and Sun will not be the one to accept Moon apologise. Because it's empty

[sass-ruby]

CHAT!!

I forgot to mention, but I made an ace attorney thingy responding to someone's opinion about the whole sun and moon argument

Soooo, if yall want it, here

And if yall actually want to check it out on tiktok, my user is "@sass.ruby.supreme"

Please don't attack this person or me or anyone in general 😭

(I'm totally not posting this here just to say something, totally not!!)

Weewoo

[sass-ruby]

Guys, what if sun's purposefully trying to piss moon off?

In today's episode, apparently there was a clone of sun.. Sun seems to deny he did anything about it which, honestly, can be the case knowing their lives. But, molten defended sun saying he isn't lying

Again, that can be the truth but what if sun got molten's help? Molten is helping sun with combat and helped him keep it a secret from moon, so why wouldn't he do this?

The clone knew about moon keeping secrets, he even knew about NEXUS literally. Either that or it's some weird as hell stalker

And it DID seem to upset moon a lot, he was literally yelling and on the urge of breaking something before sun walked in

I noticed, when he especially got mad was when that.. dimensional clone sun mentioned the secret thing which is interesting

And also, on today's episode, he was playing with moonie on the femme channel— a moon

This can all be just a coincidence, buuuuut it'd be interesting if sun is trying to get payback on moon; specifically for the nexus mention anddd mostly moon being a hypocrite

If that's the case, I have a feeling it'll fuck up things even more 😭

Yet, I am excited to see how this'll go

(what am I doing with my life, it's 3 am for me rn 💔)

[sass-ruby]

WE'RE CATCHING HIM TOGETHER AND CALLING KS AND DARK SUN FOR HELP <333

Moon's acting like sun's the one at fault when he was the one who SPIKED the reaction

That's fucking manipulation. My mother did a similar thing. She kept screaming at me for days for random shit and when it was finally winter break; she wanted to act all friendly with me and I just kept being snippy with her because obviously, I'm not just gonna forget everything. And at one point, I snapped at something she said and she started CRYING, saying how she wants nothing more than just to be like best friends with me like she is with my older sister AND I FUCKING FELL FOR IT. Despite her not giving a single fuck when she's made me cry so many times because of her screaming over pointless stuff.

(No, this isn't a vent, this is simply an example to prove my point)

This is similar to what moon's doing. Yeah, he didn't cry, but he victimized himself when he was the one who made sun react the way sun did when btw, he could've reacted WAY worse

He keeps saying he doesn't understand when the issue is painfully obvious. It's the fact he took sun's trust for granted. He hid things from sun when he PROMISED not to and then said it wasn't a secret?

Let me remind you, he PURPOSELY didn't wanna tell sun but was fine with others knowing+when sun asked about it, HE LIED. Seems like a secret to me

Also ye, moon definitely triggered that apathetic behaviour. Sun is just absolutely done with moon's bullshit which is VALID, bro deserves to go apeshit

THAT NEXUS THING TOO LIKE?? THAT WAS SO SHITTY

SUN TRUSTED MOON WITH SOMETHING SO VULNERABLE FOR MOON JUST FOR MOON TO USE IT AGAINST HIM

He literally controlled himself so well in that moment.

And then sun's the emotional one.. bffr

Sun is clearly much more emotionally intelligent than moon will ever be, but most people don't see that.

Because man- If I was sun, I would be calling KS to get his ass over there. No hesitation.

Sun's patience with moon is crazy, genuinely surprised he didn't snap earlier

I hope sun proves his point further by treating moon the same way he treats him.

MOON WHEN I CATCH YOU MOON, WHEN I CATCH YOU MOON. ISTG WHEN I CATCH YOU, WHEN I CATCH YOU MOON.

It's on SIGHT when I catch you I'm being so fr rn.

BRO LOST HIS TEMPER SO EASILY TOO, LIKE SUN ONLY GAVE HIM A FRACTION OF HIS FEELINGS ABOUT MOON KEEPING SECRETS, AND BRO JUST WENT FULL-ON BALLISTIC.

I understand Sun is mad at him because he's been keeping secrets from him a LOT. Not to mention the fact that he also broke the promise he made with Sun like omg...

Personally, I think that this secret (which wasn't even a secret Ig, to be honest) was the last thing that Sun could deal with, and now I think he's completely fed up with him which made him act scarily nonchalant towards Moon too.

Honestly? His nonchalant attitude kinda out me off, I've never really seen him like that. Something has to be wrong with him either mentally or another way now. I'm scared of what TSAMS is gonna post now tbh😭

ALSO THE WAY MOON BROUGHT UP NEXUS?? HELLO????

[sass-ruby]

Are people on drugs or what. No way they said that

First, no the hell it isn't sun's fault for the killcode. If there's anyone to blame for the killcode, it's the creator

Second, we CANNOT just use the killcode to excuse all of moon's actions??? Yes, the killcode killed people— but everything else is MOON'S doing

Because right now, even without his killcode, he has proven he's a terrible person nonetheless

The only thing that changed is the physical abuse. Other than that, he's the fucking same.

I don't get why people victimize moon so much like, huh?? He isn't some poor little victim. He's a shitty person who lacks emotional intelligence, sorry not sorry

Also, yeah. I agree

People always have such expectations on the nice characters like sun or even earth, it's unreal

I bet today's episode will go with Moon being depressed and everyone comforts him.

Maybe he will get a slap at his wrist for 'need to think about his actions' but I guess that s just it.

And Sun would deal with things alone. Again.

[sass-ruby]

How does public execution on moon sound?

I just realized something before Moon brought up Nexus he literally said "I said I was sorry" like so what?? You're sorry but that doesn't mean Sun have to accept your apology

And he expects Sun to forgive him every time. He called Sun petty little bit*h, but it was him who being indirectly aggressive after Sun found out Moon hid things from him.

And right after Sun sassed, Moon immediately lashed out and called himself a victim.

I don't understand what Moon wants. He said he was mad at Sun because he did things out of petty and being little hypocrite b*tch, like what ?

It is literally the lightest thing Sun ever did to get back at you, Moon. What do you even want? You want him to go rob a bank? Murder or arson someone? The double standards he holds on himself and Sun is insane.

Even Monty his bestie and Molten literally like Moon lapdog, couldn't stand how wrong Moon is.

And I noticed, Moon couldn't stand being ignored. His ego is so big that he needs everyone to love him and respect him and pay attention to him.

He once gave Puppet dirty eyes because she asked Eclipse for help, and not himself.

The moment Sun ignored him, Moon became more and more aggressive, and even told things that Moon sure knew would upset Sun to get some reaction out of him.

He wants Sun to move on, be his little good Sun, the one who would forgive anything he done.

And the moment Sun doesn't do that, he gets angry and blames it all on Sun.

Strangely how he doesn't get that reaction from anyone except Sun