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conveniently this line of logic is exclusively applied to trans men rather than any other marginalised man

I mean yeah, because those other marginalised men are still cis men. Trans men are, arguably, the only type of man that is marginalised on the basis of gender alone. They're trans because they are men, and are men because they're trans, and are therefore marginalised because they're specifically trans men. Sharing an identity with a cis man doesn't mean they automatically fit into that same social class, and it's actually transphobic to suggest otherwise.

which is transphobic!

No, it's not transphobic to say that trans men do not recieve the same benefits of cis men as a class. Regardless of marginalisation, cis men are still cis men which can access privlige trans men simply cannot.

all men as a social class benefit from patriarchy in some form, and some men benefit more than others

I mean, that's not entirely true. What about closeted trans men who live their lives as a woman? They identify as a man, sure, but they're going throughout their life as someone who doesn't experience any benefit from the patriarchy. And I think it's amiss to say that trans men benefit from the patriarchy specifically, because really they only recieve conditional social privliges if, and only if, they can be stealth & closeted and also live up to cis men's standards of masculinity, and are never outed. That seems more like a hostage situation to me, though, rather than genuine privlige.

You cannot say you earnestly believe we're men while simultaneously denying that we actually occupy the social class of men

I mean, sure you can. You don't have to experience male privlige or benefit from the patriarchy to actually BE a man. That's just an identity. And honestly if you think you can't be a man without benefiting from the patriarchy, it seems like you've got a few issues and radfem ideals to work on. Maybe some internalised transphobia and extreme dysphoria too. Probably a healthy dose of misogyny, while we're at it, if you think in order to be a man you have to be benefiting from a system that hurts women.

To be trans is not to automatically be part of some third gender separated from all other social consciousness

I mean, in the eyes of transphobes, that's exactly what it is. In the eyes of cis patriarchy, that is exactly what it is. In many people's experiences with oppressive systems, that is exactly what it is. Unless you're stealth and passing perfectly 100% of the time and nobody asks you about your past ever, have all the money for the medical and legal changes, and also happen to be skinny, white and attractive, and again, view that as anything other than a hostage situation, that's exactly what it is.

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While it obviously applies to trans men first and foremost, I'm pretty sure that the Eurocentric definition of masculinity standards also makes men from other cultures seen as "the wrong kind of man" for practicing masculinity differently, and is often weaponized against them.

conveniently this line of logic is exclusively applied to trans men rather than any other marginalised man

I mean yeah, because those other marginalised men are still cis men. Trans men are, arguably, the only type of man that is marginalised on the basis of gender alone. They're trans because they are men, and are men because they're trans, and are therefore marginalised because they're specifically trans men. Sharing an identity with a cis man doesn't mean they automatically fit into that same social class, and it's actually transphobic to suggest otherwise.

which is transphobic!

No, it's not transphobic to say that trans men do not recieve the same benefits of cis men as a class. Regardless of marginalisation, cis men are still cis men which can access privlige trans men simply cannot.

all men as a social class benefit from patriarchy in some form, and some men benefit more than others

I mean, that's not entirely true. What about closeted trans men who live their lives as a woman? They identify as a man, sure, but they're going throughout their life as someone who doesn't experience any benefit from the patriarchy. And I think it's amiss to say that trans men benefit from the patriarchy specifically, because really they only recieve conditional social privliges if, and only if, they can be stealth & closeted and also live up to cis men's standards of masculinity, and are never outed. That seems more like a hostage situation to me, though, rather than genuine privlige.

You cannot say you earnestly believe we're men while simultaneously denying that we actually occupy the social class of men

I mean, sure you can. You don't have to experience male privlige or benefit from the patriarchy to actually BE a man. That's just an identity. And honestly if you think you can't be a man without benefiting from the patriarchy, it seems like you've got a few issues and radfem ideals to work on. Maybe some internalised transphobia and extreme dysphoria too. Probably a healthy dose of misogyny, while we're at it, if you think in order to be a man you have to be benefiting from a system that hurts women.

To be trans is not to automatically be part of some third gender separated from all other social consciousness

I mean, in the eyes of transphobes, that's exactly what it is. In the eyes of cis patriarchy, that is exactly what it is. In many people's experiences with oppressive systems, that is exactly what it is. Unless you're stealth and passing perfectly 100% of the time and nobody asks you about your past ever, have all the money for the medical and legal changes, and also happen to be skinny, white and attractive, and again, view that as anything other than a hostage situation, that's exactly what it is.

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Started playing ffxiv a while ago and just got my chocobo mount!!

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Pin-tailed Sandgrouse (Pterocles alchata), family Pteroclidae, order Pterocliformes, Israel

photograph by Moshe Ben Artzi

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"Our company is providing solutions"

office jobs should have chemistry labs in them. just to change things up

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one of the most eyeroll worthy kinds of anti-intellectualism is pinning everything "wrong with the world" on white colonialism, like congrats pal how's that saviour complex working out for ya

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Live Europan hookmouth reaction

(Alternate title: sea of stars)

Man I wish Europa hookmouth was real

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"Ok, ma'am that'll be 226.03$."

I take my wallet out of my pocket and unfold it. It is empty other than a single moth that lazily flies out. The moth lands on the tap point of the card reader. There's a beat, and my payment is processed. The moth flies back into my wallet and I put it back in my pocket.

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Some salticids just look more worried than others

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my tumblrshed (people I see on my dash)

i have a new trendy suffix to introduce. -shed: "the area from which this resource flows to a given point". as in watershed, but the hydrologists are not content to stop there. the best usage i've seen so far is "problemshed", which is roughly "the area causing problems for a given point". very useful concept tbh

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Dinovember Day 7: Amargasaurus

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To distract everyone from all the stress of politics here is a leaf sheep.

It's a type of sea slug and the only animal known to photosynthesize like a plant. And it's adorable.

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"Men's Rights Activists" are to men's rights what "States' Rights" Lost Causers are to federalism

When you see a man actually talking about the actual basic human rights of discriminated against men, & your responce is to shut them down by likening them to an MRA incel, you're not being cool & woke, you're saying the same shit as radfems & run of the mill sexists.

MRA does not literally mean 'activists for men's rights', MRA was/is a movement of creepy reddit incels who wanted state assigned girlfriends & said that was 'men's rights', or saying that men deserve more rights than women, that is why they suck, not because they're talking about men's human rights.

MOC & Transmascs & Immigrant men & male abuse victims & disabled men etc. talking about their rights or lack thereof & how being a man factors into it for them are not your enemy & are not MRAs, they're literal activists for men's literal actual human rights.

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Another banger from /r/stupiddovenests - at least the tag is appropriate this time