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jill stein has literally been arrested for protesting against the genocide, what are you talking about
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do we have to post this screenshot again
Um. Ceasefire was in place when Hamas attacked on October 7 so.... how is this war Israel's fault?
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i have seen worse comparisons, but the u.s. was extremely not "on the right side of vietnam" and the claim that "we can all agree" that it was is Deeply Revealing of your hardcore ethnocolonialist nature
My opinion on the IDF
(Because, yes, despite me being Pro-Israel, I still have ✨thoughts✨)
People need to stop comparing the I/P conflict to the Holocaust. It is nothing like the Holocaust and Israel is nothing like Germany. And you making that comparison really shows how little you actually know about WW2. Read any history book. Read Anne Frank, or Night. In fact, the closest thing to the Holocaust that is happening in this war is what is happening to the Israeli hostages. They are under way more of those conditions.
No. If we are to ever compare this to any other war, it is more similar to the Vietnam War.
The IDF is very similar to US soldiers in Vietnam.
Look. We can all agree that US was on the right side of Vietnam. They were helping the Southern Vietnamese from the Northern Vietnamese. So when you hear “They were on the right side/good side” you automatically think they were the good guys. Wonderful heroes. And, yes, Vietnam veterans were heroes. But they did some fucked up shit.
For example, according to one veteran, one time when one of his friends had been murdered, out of anger, they all burned an entire town down. US soldiers took out a lot of their frustrations and anger onto the Vietnamese. So while we all agree that they are on the right side and are the good guys, they did some fucked up shit. Stuff that cannot be excused at all.
Another example is in WW2! We all think of the allies as the good guys! They fought against the terrible Nazis and yadada. America was on the good side, they were one of the main sides that took down Germany! So while we acknowledge that America was the right side the be on, we cannot forget the horrible things they did. For example..
They had Japanese concentration camps.
Bet you didn’t know that.
The reason for this was because the amount of violence they saw and experienced was involved with Japan. They were traumatized but it is no excuse to do something like that!
America was the right side, but they weren’t the perfect military.
No military is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!
That includes the IDF.
But here’s the thing, on the side of the ‘good guys’, usually when there’s extremely violent people in the military, there are usually two reasons for this.
They have experienced horrors beyond comprehension while fighting on the battlefield, causing them to become jaded and bitter
Or
2. They were always a violent person and they joined the war to take that out onto others.
It is the tragic reality that every single military has people like this. It is history. The historical ‘good guys’ did horrible things as well.
That brings me back to the Vietnam War.
The soldiers saw so many horrible things that could actually compare very well to what the IDF has seen.
US soldiers had no way to tell if a citizen was Northern Vietnamese or Southern Vietnamese.
Usually by the time they learned, it was too late.
There are stories of US soldiers having a Vietnamese child come up to them, holding something. About to give them a gift! But when they opened their hand, they were holding a grenade.
That is so similar to what Hamas is doing. They use suicide bombers and child soldiers. Things like that will create an idea of they can’t trust anyone. Anyone could be out to hurt them and there’s the idea of almost animalistic fighting for survival. How can you trust when Hamas could literally send a child out to kill you?!
So, really, if you think about it, the US soldiers of the Vietnam War are very similar to the IDF.
That sense of they can’t trust anyone, violence due to the trauma and being surrounded by enemies trying to do the same fucking thing (hell, Hamas has been committing terrorist attacks on Israel for years now). Even what the two sides fight for are somewhat similar!
The US fought to help the Southern Vietnamese and gain freedom from their Northern neighbors. Israel is fighting for freedom from their neighbors who are constantly attacking them and freeing Palestinians from their oppressive government.
It starts out virtuous and those ideas do carry on for the most part, but it also dissolves into animalistic violence and anger because of the shit they have seen.
Also, the way US Vietnam soldiers were treated in America is actually really similar to how Americans treat the IDF.
Nowadays when we meet a Vietnam veteran, we comment on how brave they are and how they’re a hero. Back then, though? Ohhhhh boy. Americans hated them. When soldiers would come home, Americans would yell at them, spit on them, etc. Now, doesn’t that sound familiar?
So, TLDR;
I support Israel and I support the IDF in the same way I support America in WW2 and the Vietnam War. They’re on the right side and have virtuous intent, but they sure as hell aren’t perfect and have done some fucked up shit. Yknow. Like every other military in the world. The sad reality we live in. Not everything is black and white.
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you're contradicting yourself, sweetie! you can't have both "the mean sjws incorrectly think all militaries are bloodthirsty" *and* "the mean sjws incorrectly think only western militaries are bloodthirsty" at the same time :)
literally insane to me how you can shove military propaganda in a show for actual preschoolers and that's considered fine but god forbid you find it weird or sad or else someone will pen a whole article discrediting the horrors millions are going through because having dog soldiers in the cartoon for 3 year olds is more important
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johnny depp was the abuser, idiot. just like he abused winona ryder (pedophilically) and kate moss and ellen barkin
Domestic Violence PSA: statistics on men
It is easy to find infographics like the one pictured above that are either patently false (as this one is) or that purposefully misrepresent data to make it look like 1000x more a woman's issue than a men's issue
(i.e., I saw one that said 90% of female DV victims' perpetrators were men--no effing duh! as 90% of women with intimate partners are hetero--there are only so many lesbians available to commit DV / have it committed against them.)
However it's also important to keep in mind the real world stats on male victims.
READ THAT NUMBER AND REMEMBER IT: a lot of organizations hate this proven data and do everything they can to bury it. 33% of women are DV victims (56% of all victims), and 25% of men are DV victims (43% of all victims). Yet virtually NO DV shelters in the US serve male victims. Of the more than 2000+ DV shelters nationwide as of 2017, only TWO served exclusively male clients. That's 2 shelters for 43% of the victims, and roughly 1,998+ for 56% of the victims. And what's worse: women's groups will actively protest and try and stop the building of new men's DV shelters, as if they don't deserve them. That's gross.
Part of being a good feminist is admitting when something is wrong and hurting men as well, and this is a glaring injustice that I don't see other feminists talking about. In fact it's a consistently proven fact that we seem to want to just "go away," even though it's the truth.
Men are victimized in different, but no less significant, ways. Yes, they are the biologically stronger sex, but our culture's current sympathetic eye and ear towards female victims has had the unfortunate side effect of allowing many male victims to continue to be abused and their female perpetrators to get away with it, all because of gender optics. Men don't "look" like victims.
Add to this the fact that women get away with hitting and otherwise physically assaulting men to a disgusting degree in our society, the fact that men are FAR less likely to report substantial DV abuse, and the fact that they are by far the more likely to be victimized by spousal retribution in family courts and social spheres (Amber Heard to Johnny Depp, anyone?) , and you can see what a sad trap this is for many male victims. Why speak out when nobody's going to listen to you anyways?
Statistically it may be easier to be a female victim, but it's certainly harder for a male victim to get any goddamn help.
(Amber Heard and Johnny Depp, anyone?)
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Bloch testified that he was seated at a picnic table in the lodge with two students during a lunchtime break between the slopestyle and rail jam events planned for the meet. He said his ears perked up when he heard the two students talking about DNA. He said he explained there is a difference in male and females and that archeologists digging up old bones can tell if they are male or female. He said he noted also that there are feminine males and masculine females.
even his own side of the story makes him sound like a fucking weirdo
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what on earth are you parafascists blathering about this time
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johnny depp, a serial abuser whose violent outbursts have gotten him in legal trouble multiple times, who was preying on 17-year-old winona ryder when he was 26 and amber heard was a toddler, and who is besties with a wide variety of other abusers (marilyn manson, harvey weinstein, roman polanski, etc), perpetrated a wide variety of abuser tactics and violence against amber heard, including demanding that her nurse (who was on his payroll) drug her into submission
heard initiated divorce proceedings in 2016, got a restraining order against depp (she had a bruise on her face during the hearing for it), it was finalized in early 2017 with both of them signing an n.d.a.
in 2018 the sun, a british tabloid, published an article calling jk rowling a hypocrite for supporting johnny depp, whom they initially called a "wife-beater" before editing out that specific wording. depp filed a defamation lawsuit in the u.k. with his putinist oligarch lawyer, which he lost spectacularly despite u.k. libel laws being heavily favorable for complainants. notably the sun's defense was purely a "these allegations are true" one, not a "you can't prove these allegations aren't true" one or a "this doesn't technically count as defamation" one or whatever; the judge found
later in 2018, depp arranged articles in rolling stone and gq that were supposed to burnish his image and attack heard's but arguably did the opposite. another few months after that, heard had an editorial published in the washington post saying, without mentioning depp by name, that she was a "public figure representing domestic abuse" and had seen "how institutions protect men accused of abuse".
depp then sued her for defamation over this editorial, resulting in the trial you're probably talking about. the lawsuit was so obviously frivolous and venue-shopped from the beginning that virginia passed anti-slapp legislation in response.
there were massive amounts of inauthentic social media activity targeting and spreading lies about heard (many of which, like "she pooped on the bed!!1!!" or "she cut off his finger!!!1", fall apart the instant you look at them), from which the u.s. jurors were not sequestered. jurors also kept falling asleep during testimony. a juror also said the jury "essentially dismissed all witnesses on both sides who were employees, paid experts, friends or family from either side." the same juror also said the relationship was mutually abusive, which you would think contradicts the verdict that implying depp is abusive is defamatory.
domestic violence experts btw have been lopsidedly in favor of amber heard the whole time.
at any rate, the absurd u.s. verdict (unlike the u.k. verdict which still stands, having held up on appeal twice) was superseded by depp and heard's out-of-court settlement, which cut the amount of money heard would have had to pay depp by almost 90% and did not impinge on heard's right to talk about depp's abuse of her, which to me suggests that depp was afraid that heard's appeal would see even more success than that.
I purposefully avoided as much of the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trial as I could, would anyone be willing to sum up what exactly happened
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#amber heard#johnny depp#depp vs heard#amber heard deserves better#i've probably left stuff out but it's past 1am and i have to wake up early tomorrow. yell at me ig#didn't find a couple links i was looking for bc search engines are fucking shit these days
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i don't think a movement led by people like james cantor, germaine greer, kenneth zucker, kaeley triller, etc should make this argument
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"ah but actually there are more [victim group] alive today than before your so-called genocide" is literally one of the core denialist arguments about practically every genocide!! they say it about native americans, they say it about armenians, they say it about jews (although this involves more twisting of numbers than usual), etc
even cambodia currently has twice its pre-genocide population!
So the article about Elon musk being the most dangerous antisemite has made rounds and I love the discourse and discussion about antisemitism that it sparked because yeah, black goy, like myself, cares and actively tries to understand antisemitism. In general, I wasn’t really aware about antisemitism because, as I said before, it is so subversive that it gets mistaken for so many things like “anti capitalism” or “anti-liberalism” or “anti-elitism” and etc. Antisemitism is so pervasive in this country that you honestly could be saying some shit and there could be some antisemitic undertones that you wouldn’t be aware of until it’s pointed out to you. My big “Oh shit, I can’t believe this is antisemitic” was Attack On Titan which is why I never looked at that incel anime the same again.
But in light of how popular that article is, I want to test a certain person in that post’s thread ecosystem because they said some things that if you don’t get their underline meaning, call their motivation in question. Just want to highlight a certain hypocrisy among a certain subset of Jewish people who don’t, at all, make of the majority and point out how this subset weaponizes antisemitism by applying it to a specific opposition to a certain movement. I want to see their reaction to my next post. Cause yeah.
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1. comparing lifesaving medical care to cigarettes is blatantly absurd to anybody who hasn’t ideologically blinkered themself
2. considering that your entire movement explicitly supports hormonal and surgical interventions on minors when those minors are intersex, including when those minors are infants or otherwise nonconsenting, your first paragraph is similarly absurd
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why does every trans-related bill have conservatives and g.c.s on one side and progressives and feminists on the other?
why does the g.c. movement constantly buddy up with extreme antifeminist conservatives like miriam cates, caroline farrow, germaine greer, etc?
why are the heritage foundation, 55 tufton st, etc funding g.c. causes?
even if you are not "the same", you are firmly aligned
Trans women's posts where they claim that 'TERFs' are the same as conservatives because they allegedly uphold gender stereotypes are the funniest because the ones who uphold and re-enforce gender stereotypes are trans women in particular and trans movement in general.
They are so ignorant they don't bother looking into radical feminism theory. If they did, they would know radical feminism has nothing to do with conservatism, except that both agree that biological sex is innate and cannot be changed. Radical feminism and conservatism have nothing more in common.
In fact, trans ideology and conservatism have much more in common. Both believe that biological sex comes with a set of gender stereotypes (in looks and behaviour).
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oh wow that person is a mess in all sorts of ways. crank magnetism
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let's break this down.
All we know about Depp is that he had a substance addiction
we also know that he has a history of violent outbursts, some of which he has gotten in legal trouble for. we also know that he's a pedophile who groomed 17-year-old winona ryder and tried to get her parents to let him marry her. we also know that he's been abusive around multiple exes, fx throwing bottles at ellen barkin. we also know that he fantasized about murdering and then raping heard. we also know he's besties with a whole host of other abusers such as marilyn manson and harvey weinstein. etc.
and his being violent was based only on Amber's testimony
apart from the multiple known cases of depp's violence outside his relationship with heard, there were also multiple witnesses in the virginia trial who saw depp's aggression and/or the injuries he inflicted, and depp confessed to physical violence multiple times.
You're also ignoring how Depp is literally a victim of domestic abuse.
when he was a kid, yeah. that doesn't excuse him going on to perpetrate it on a completely unrelated person.
Amber herself admitted to being violent with him
heard admitted to eventually starting to defend herself and fight back. this is not a bad thing.
She knew no one would believe him.
she assumed nobody would believe him because he was flagrantly lying and she had plenty of evidence.
And that proof that he "is a violent man" is based on a recording of him having just lost his mother, who meant more than entire world to him, and was grieving. He wasn't being violent towards Amber. He was being self-destructive.
had he also "just lost his mother" when he did the exact same thing to kate moss? no. it's not a grief response, it's a pattern of abusive behavior.
Despite his abuser being called out on lies on how she insisted she covered bruises using make up that literally did not even exist yet, but didn't even claim it was a mistake?
this is straightforwardly a lie.
Despite his abuser having a documented history of abuse?
tasya van ree has very clearly disagreed with this idea
Sorry, but between the man who is being backed by all his exes AND his kids saying he was never abusive
ellen barkin literally testified against him. incidentally, if you want to bring his kids into it, it should also be mentioned that depp lied to authorities to protect a 23-year-old man who was preying on 15-year-old lily-rose.
and the woman who was found to have abused her ex and whose entourage acknowledge she has violent tendencies, was caught in several lies, literally admitted to hitting the man
all of this is darvo. depp did these things.
and mocking the fact no one would believe a man could be victim of domestic abuse
this is a lie spread by intentionally mistranscribed audio.
I'm gonna automatically think the woman is lying through her damn teeth.
of course. you always do.
UR "Not all men, you're right, my pedro pascal wouldn't do that" or whoever, PISSES ME OFF.
And then, a victim appears, and you don't believe them, bc of some parasocial relationship with a man you don't know - i'm not saying pedro is an abuser, but he could be.
You use some incel statement and agree with it, for a man. My fucking god, you're already sexually harassing Pedro Pascal and know for your comic effect, you side with incels in a hurting way for every fucking one.
Pedro is a sweetheart, but you guys have this " Depp is hot and cute the ppl arez lying he wouldn't do that" even tho he's proved violent man, so obviously i don't trust no one to make that kind of "humor" bc we know what side you take when someone comes forward.
We can love Pedro without this non sense ! I love him, he's a kind man, a sweet soul, but the thing we don't really know him and we can't pretend that this man his perfection and would never hurt a fly; we don't know him.
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also while hale was a student, the school+church was covering up serial child molestation by one of its leaders (john perry). which seems like it isn't being mentioned nearly enough
Gonna get heat for this but I don’t care.
the school shooting in nashville done by Aiden Hale is horrible, and the ultimate problem IS firearms. What he did was horrible and evil, and there is never an excuse for it. No amount of jail time could ever pay for what they did. In the past 10 years there have been thousands of school shootings in the US, and the amount increases every year. One of them happened to be trans.
I do want to comment that the school targeted was a christian school that Hale had been a student at. in a state currently pushing some of the hardest anti-trans bills in the nation, in the name of “conservative christian values”. The news is constantly bombarded with anti trans (and pro gun) propaganda. Hale had left suicide letters to friends. I won’t pretend that these things did not contribute.
I have never seen a school shooter get this much attention. I’ve never seen so many news articles scrutinize every single detail of their life. I always hear the argument “don’t say their name, don’t give school shooters the glory that they want!”. Not a single person has argued that in this case. There is a New York Post article putting this persons ART on trial, claiming that it foreshadowed the shooting when it was… just art. It was their online graphic design projects, from art school, from two years ago. Absolutely none of it was interesting.
I truly hate that this has happened. I hate that the argument is going to be redirected from guns, in the most perfect way possible for republicans. I hate that for the rest of the 2024 elections and probably longer, the Right has a token to use against all trans people to “prove” they they are dangerous. Everything about this is horrible.
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THE REASON THERE'S NO BACKLASH THIS TIME, BTW, IS BECAUSE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES' AND OTHER RESPECTABLE LIBERAL MEDIA'S CONCERTED ANTI-TRANS CONCERN TROLLING CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS SERVING THE DUAL PURPOSES OF SOFTENING UP OPPOSITION FROM MODERATE PROGRESSIVES AND ALSO PROVIDING MORE PALATABLE ARGUMENTS TO THE FAR RIGHT
[“It’s hard to remember in 2016, when North Carolina passed an obviously discriminatory anti-trans* bathroom law, HB 2, sectors all across organized society sprung into action.
Fortune 500 corporations like Deutsche Bank and PayPal announced they were halting long-planned, multi-million dollar expansions. California, Connecticut, Minnesota, New York, Vermont, Washington, and DC all Columbia banned employees from non-essential travel to the state. ESPN, NFL, NASCAR denounced the law, as did Michael Jorden. Prominent entertainers like Bruce Springsteen, Demi Lovato, Itzhak Perlman, Maroon 5, and Ringo Star of the Beatles all cancelled concert dates in North Carolina.
The NBA pulled its 2017 All-Star Game from Charlotte, while the NCAA announced that North Carolina could kiss hosting any collegiate championship in any sport goodbye until HB 2 was repealed.
Finally, Loretta Lynch, the first Black female Attorney General, went on national TV to announce that the DOJ was filing suit. Addressing the transcommunity directly, in an extraordinary personal statement, she told us: “We see you. We stand with you. And we will do everything we can to protect you.”
It was really pretty breathtaking: The Boss AND The Beatles? His Airness? The NBA, NFL, NASCAR, and the NCAA? Incredibly, these were the forces that came together in favor of transgender people’s to access to the right bathroom.
So less than a decade later, as dozens of states takes away transgender young people’s right to affirming medical care, to actually be transgender, their response is…crickets.
And not only them. My researcher Chloe and I examined public statements from 18 of largest and highest-profile civil society, civil rights, and women’s organizations.[i] For purposes of comparison, we found statements from nearly 100% in support of abortion rights and gay marriage.
But that number plummets to just 44% for gender-affirming care (8). And the volume of support dwindled as well: from about 70 statements in support of abortion or gay marriage, to just 10 for affirming care — a drop of almost 90%. [ii]
As with school sports, the civil society and civil rights community is going to sit on its hands, and let LGBTQ+ groups, the ACLU, and a handful of overmatched Democratic legislators in red states go it on their own.
So if my 16-year-old niece gets pregnant and needs an abortion, the whole progressive community has her back.
But if she announces he is a transgender boy and needs hormone blockers to stop his menstrual periods and pause his breast development, the community has nothing to say.
In effect, a cisgender teen has a right to bodily autonomy, but a transgender teen does not.”]
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