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Trans guys: *literally just talking about how misogyny can affect them*

Some people on this site, for some godforsaken reason: “See!?!?! Those horrible transandrobros just think trans men are women and trans women are men >:(“

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i think just the statement "masculinity is always praised no matter who presents that way" rlly shows that a lot of people on here who call themselves feminists don't actually know anything about basic feminist or queer history. seems more likely that they've picked this language up to seem less hateful

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i open tumblr. i see “infighting is a dogwhistle.” i just pound my face into the table a few times. i post this. i close tumblr. goodnight.

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"TERFs don't actually hate men; they actually see trans women as women because they engage in transmisogyny against us!"

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think that "ExterminatetheYchromosome.tumblr.com" thinks that we're women because we say we are...

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yknow in another life i think i could have genuinely like the term tboy for myself but ive seen too many people use it to mean "trans men i think are annoying white teenage girls"

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i do not condone misogyny, but i can understand the male victims who are bitter about feminism and it lack of nuance towards the female offender. And the constant sanctimonious praise and shielding of women against crimes that they get away with because of patriarchy and the idea that women can't be sexually violent as men. if you must insist on supporting all victims, why is your resources still gender segregated, and include trans and gay men in that segregation who have very high rates of assault but no support? why is the only support group on campus "femme identified only" yet you don't make a space for masc people as an alternative?

the whole, it makes women feel unsafe argument is fucking horseshit if your abuser was female or you are a gay man and your abuser was male. i can't forcibly segregate myself from both men and women because both people abused me. what about the lesbian victims of abusive female partners? I am still attracted to men even though I was raped by one and I still have share spaces with him regardless of my fear.

I was raped as a man and as a woman. Where exactly do I belong when it comes to supportive spaces because i'm certainly not welcomed in your supposed feminist space because i pass as male now. where do i go? or am i less of a victim now that i look like a man? you can't support all victims, then turn some of us away because it's less convenient for some of you.

the fact of the matter is that we matter less. we are unimportant and worth forgetting about. your insectionality theory doesn't serve me when i'm left to fend for myself.

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how many gags where someone supposed to look like a man turns around and gasp haha so funny and shocking it's actually a woman have you seen compared to the inverse. because i've seen a solid handful of transmisogynistic jokes exactly like this and can't recall a single one joking about masculine women.

ok but like. can we talk abt how it’s seen as funnier and more ridiculous/offensive to call a “man” a girl’s name than it is to call a “woman” a guy’s name and the kind of transmisogynistic jokes and rhetoric that use that against trans women and transfems all the time

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ok but like. can we talk abt how it’s seen as funnier and more ridiculous/offensive to call a “man” a girl’s name than it is to call a “woman” a guy’s name and the kind of transmisogynistic jokes and rhetoric that use that against trans women and transfems all the time

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trans man: exists

TERFs: obviously SHE'S been groomed by the evil queers to hate herself and to seek an escape from the patriarchy by becoming the patriarchy

"trans friendly" radfems: no, he's a MAN and he was always a man because that's how gender works. which meanssss he's inherently an aggressor and part of the patriarchy and cannot relate to real women and thus an inherent danger to them unless proven otherwise!

trans man: 😐

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also yeha because i just saw someone else mention this: forcemasc IS transgressive for kink spaces because trans men & mascs are frequently infantalized , feminized and forced into submissive roles. and its not just an old issue, i see it on here every day. ppl love to reduce trans men to their (assumed) pussies and then get mad when we try to have any sexual agency

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I don't really know what to say the danger of shoving trans women in men's restrooms and the danger of shoving trans men in women's restrooms do not feel quite equal to me tbh. :(

cool I'll tell that to the next trans guy who suffers a traumatic head injury from being beaten up by a cis guy for using the women's restroom

what do you want me to say here. why is it a competition. why are we going into this with the presupposition that one side of the trans binary must have it worse.

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WHAT????????????

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????

HUH??????????????????????

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Any other trans mascs feel like the pressure to conform to toxic masculinity is extra intense by a society who won't accept us otherwise but also the pressure to not conform even slightly to toxic masculinity or even traditional masculinity at all is extra intense from others?

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how many times to transmascs and transandrophoia bloggers have to say "we think all trans people have issues worth talking about, and some of us face more or less issues in certain spaces by virtue of our type of transness, but this does not mean one type of transness is inherently easier or harder" until people actually start arguing with that instead of whatever made up raging misogynist they have in their brain

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anyway i think, especially right now… its important to remind transfems that, just because a popular trans blog says being a man or being attracted to men in any way is bad, does not mean you have to listen to them. you can be multigender, you can be attracted to anyone, its fine. you do not have to be defined by someone on the internet parroting the “men have an evil particle and you must avoid even thinking of men” rhetoric that is Seemingly Fine bcuz its said by a trans person. youre a bigender trans woman whos femmasc? awesome! youre a transhet girl with two boyfriends? cool! dont sacrifice parts of you for face eating leopard ‘totally inclusive’ rad-feminism.

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im still surprised (but actually im not) that the “trans men make soft boy ukulele music” stereotype is still around, considering the existence of the “trans women make scary loud noise music” stereotype. seeing as the former is usually said by the oppositional sexism “if women experience x then men only experience y” crowd, believing the former implies belief in the latter. theres not really any way around saying you think trans women’s music is all Loud Scary Noise if you believe trans men’s music is all Soft Sad String Instruments

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once more in a simplified manner if you don’t mind. there isn’t enough space and this is abt transfem vs transmasc oppression so this one will be shittier and less inclusive but i’d appreciate if you do your best with it.