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personally i love when selina and bruce are shown to be possessive of each other. like selina shows up and goes “wtf bruce!! you’re with zatanna!!” and he goes “baby no!! wtf!! don’t you know you’re the only woman for me?”
bonus being bruce dangling slam bradley off a building and threatening to deport someone for getting close to selina.
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Gregory Peck in Gentleman’s Agreement, 1947 | Elia Kazan.
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scott smug miller
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His hands...
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I think I'm actually going to be sick
Oz is never beating the Carmine 2.0 allegations
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Oswald 'Oz' Cobb + dog imagery
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feline fashion combinations from this piece
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A baseless vision that's plagued my mind for a while. Ignore me pls & thx
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catwoman lover to catwoman lover: have you read catwoman lonely city yet and if yes what are your thoughts on it and the way it handled selina's race and ethnicity? cause imo weird decision to selectively adapt her being half cuban but completely ignoring that she's also half black just to make her a white woman whose cellmate in jail is a poc that gets lynched so she can learn what racism is...
Hello! I have read Catwoman: Lonely City, and I'd consider it one of my favorite "what-if" stories. Spoilers ahead! (ok, it's been two years, just go read it!)
I think it handled Selina's race and ethnicity... okay. In the comic, multiple timelines and universes are sorta combined into one-- such as the 1966 TV show (Julie Newmar), the 90s purple era, and others after & in-between. I wouldn’t say I'm surprised, per-say, that Selina is depicted as white here; being a conglomerate of popular canon, Chiang chose to reflect that in the comic and lean away from "rewriting" those takes.
But that is where Selina's Cuban heritage is able to kinda survive. Since it was a part of the New Earth canon (a major universe) and that she was still being drawn as white during that time, it could easily be fit in without [those] fans raising eyebrows and accusing disloyalty to older comics. It's a win that Chiang directly states this fact, plus the additional bonus to show that Selina is fluent in Spanish. HOWEVER, as many say, there are white Latinos out there, but it'd be nice to see SOME melanin from her mother come through, you know? Or even curly hair?
Anyway, like you mentioned, one of Selina's cellmates back in Blackgate was a Korean woman who was racially targeted and killed. Now, for this part of the story, I took the *overall* flashback as not only a highlight on Asian-American discrimination but also to show Selina's hesitance on training Edie, Riddler's daughter.
I don't think it was included so Selina could learn what racism was, but as stated before in many other posts of mine, everything could've been more impactful had Selina just been a WoC in the first place, especially since it wouldve been on par with the themes already in the story. I'd call it more of a lost opportunity than anything.
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oh hey don't worry for taking a while to answer the ask, thanks for answering it! i get what you mean about it being a conglomerate of other versions and it being a win that it mentions her being cuban at least, and it's not like her being written as white is too surprising considering dc's track record, it's just that to me the choice of only partially adapting her heritage on her mother's side stings almost more in this comic than others due to the framing of it as particularly progressive and political.
those parts of fandom would have designated chiang's story as "woke garbage" anyways, due to its plot also being about people fighting bigotry and right wing populism, so to me there isn't a reason for not adapting her being half black as well. it just felt like a bit of a betrayal for a comic to present itself as as progressive as this one does, only to go and make selina white again and forego adapting her bisexuality in any real way either...
Thank you for your patience, and honestly, I can't even add anything because you basically explained everything better than I could 🧎‍♀️
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It's been a hot minute since I've drawn my wife
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catwoman lover to catwoman lover: have you read catwoman lonely city yet and if yes what are your thoughts on it and the way it handled selina's race and ethnicity? cause imo weird decision to selectively adapt her being half cuban but completely ignoring that she's also half black just to make her a white woman whose cellmate in jail is a poc that gets lynched so she can learn what racism is...
Hello! I have read Catwoman: Lonely City, and I'd consider it one of my favorite "what-if" stories. Spoilers ahead! (ok, it's been two years, just go read it!)
I think it handled Selina's race and ethnicity... okay. In the comic, multiple timelines and universes are sorta combined into one-- such as the 1966 TV show (Julie Newmar), the 90s purple era, and others after & in-between. I wouldn’t say I'm surprised, per-say, that Selina is depicted as white here; being a conglomerate of popular canon, Chiang chose to reflect that in the comic and lean away from "rewriting" those takes.
But that is where Selina's Cuban heritage is able to kinda survive. Since it was a part of the New Earth canon (a major universe) and that she was still being drawn as white during that time, it could easily be fit in without [those] fans raising eyebrows and accusing disloyalty to older comics. It's a win that Chiang directly states this fact, plus the additional bonus to show that Selina is fluent in Spanish. HOWEVER, as many say, there are white Latinos out there, but it'd be nice to see SOME melanin from her mother come through, you know? Or even curly hair?
Anyway, like you mentioned, one of Selina's cellmates back in Blackgate was a Korean woman who was racially targeted and killed. Now, for this part of the story, I took the *overall* flashback as not only a highlight on Asian-American discrimination but also to show Selina's hesitance on training Edie, Riddler's daughter.
I don't think it was included so Selina could learn what racism was, but as stated before in many other posts of mine, everything could've been more impactful had Selina just been a WoC in the first place, especially since it wouldve been on par with the themes already in the story. I'd call it more of a lost opportunity than anything.
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I'm so slow on answering asks, so just hang with me if I post it after two weeks of sitting in the inbox
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Nancy By Ernie Bushmiller
November 9,1946
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this duo is going to be unstoppable
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Sisterism so real that they have the same stunt double
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Catwoman practice
Havent touch Krita in ages :(
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