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thank you egg for all your creativity, art, and dedication to this cool project

the founder game has felt like the largest showcase of your talents and skills for genloss so far. i can’t wait to see how it grows from here and to theorize on whatever you’re cooking up next, i’m sure it’ll amaze and stump us even more

-Tophat

thank you to everyone who played the founder's game!!

i poured sooo much into this project the past 7 months and I'm beyond grateful for your enthusiasm and excitement every Sunday. i hope you guys had fun with this one, we hope to see you next time :)

id do my usual collage of what i worked on, but its far too much to fit in one image 💀

anyways, if you haven't had the chance to play it, or want to replay it, the founder's game is up on thefoundergame.com :D

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we need to know HOW

if we have one question that we as a community can put forward to the founder and ask i very highly suggest we ask "How" instead of "why" we have data on how the founder thinks, and if most "why" questions are asked then we can find out. "Who" questions are tied to the story and are alot less likely to have an answer that can satisfy as many questions as itll create. we need to know How. How much of it was fake How are you able to create this tech How are we connected How are we controlling Ben/ranboo How are characters recycled The founder is a personality of a character and will answer as according to said character. if we ask why anything happens were only asking for his philosophy which he is steadily sharing to us. if we ask HOW something under his watch happens the chance of a technical, factual answer skyrockets, and we can answer more questions on our own. if you have a question you think you can predict the answer to then our knowledge remains stagnant. if we have a technical answer to work off of then it gives us a desperately needed base to come from i asked how much of everything was faked

we got this genlosers, this is an opportunity to hop on! -Tophat

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TFG ch.7 thoughs (pt-2)

squeezing in a part 2 before tomarrow to maximize making a fool of myself or getting i called it privledges i think that the gen 0 lab "Unfiltered" As we see it in ch.7 is misleading. i think theres still much thats being hidden from us right before our eyes but that the idea that the curtains have been pulled misleads us to think its not still a stage. things like how the windows are barred in the images we see from the founders letter but theres no windows at all to ben. things like how theres still someone watching us. if you turn right in ch.7 and loiter by the door a voice tells us to hurry up since were going inside anyway and is largely overpassed as "coming from a door" this reads to me as Someone (maybe Red) is being actively obscured from our vision. and if thats the case then i think we very much should question if what were seeing is as "real" as it gets. keep in mind in TSE during episode 3 the same tactic was used where ranboo had seemingly 'figured it out' and was behind where the cameras were. but it was still part of the show, and it was just as staged as the rest of the set. lets hope meeting the founder goes well tomarrow my bets on him talking to us directly instead of to ben as a character -Tophat

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TFG ch.7 thoughts

if you havent played the founders game, this wont make sense https://www.thefoundergame.com/chapter-select if you know nothing about generation loss this is still a fun story game to go through! that aside chapter 7 is getting under my skin recently. its general point is to expand on whats really happening. that afterschool slash is a simulation that takes place within the Gen 0 lab and that what were seeing is heavily influenced, ending in our soon to be meeting with the founder. this is the most info grounded ive felt in the game since it started. heres why. The entire game thus far has been very very ambiguous about what were looking at. and this is very intentional. arbitrary details change and shift every other chapter, the map layout of the school is incredibly uncertain, and the whole vibe has been ment to be derealization in theme. the whole game in reaction boiling down to the unreliable narrator rule. daily reminder that genloss has no reliable narrators. but this? we've delt with this. Vision being altered through context and perception. a grandious tearing away of the curtain to see the "truth" behind it all. the technology thats in Gen 1 TSE is consistent with the tech being used in the Gen 0 lab, supporting theories that TSE is sponsored as an off-branch project to the larger generation loss organization. But more importantly, it means we already have notes on how this all might work.

from my notes and my theories

Visions and feeling such as pain can be simulated, but both need a base to work off of. it doesn’t have to be perfect since a “don’t think on it too hard” attitude is practically hot wired in, but it works by trigger.

for example. if i take a wooden pop gun and point it to a filtered character and shoot, that would translate into a hallucinated weapon and a wound.

but it needs that visual to draw over, and that audio or sensation to cue.

it’s convincing the characters so they can convince us.

similarly, a misplaced cue (broken display/trophy case with a branch/knife inside) still attempts to translate but without the time for it to be deliberately written out, the second best option is to just move past it.

an example of being written out is TSE ep 2 where cameras are intentionally removed from filter and we see ranboo both comment and react either not able or not allowed to acknowledge the cameras.

(yes puzzler comments, but that’s for our sake since camera crews couldn’t be avoided on screen, ranboo is camera blind till the end of the ep)

i have more to say but this is already an essay and it’s late so i’m Pt.1 -ing it

remember this is truely Just a theory, it’s not confirmed but this is my very studied interpretation

-Tophat

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@kertoir when i catch you and your silly goofy ways. So. youre telling me that Ch. 6 of TFG releases and during the plot, there are multiple planes that ben can go to. ok, cool. youre telling me that one option is he wakes up in an arcade. ok, cool. youre telling me that on December 22, the closest release to christmas eve, ben walks up to a classic arcade cabinet and it seemingly portals, consumes, or elsewise assimilates him. So Youre Telling Me That We Cant See Him, Behind The Screen? That dare i theory or suggest. that Bens Half Human, And Half Machine?? SO YOURE TELLING ME BEN IS FUCKING CABINET MAN i. cant believe it took me over a week to get this joke. thats so funny. -Tophat

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tophat talk about the founder game.

give us that chart (or 4) you promised that’s been restarted 5 times

tophat give us a theory, it’s been weeks

N o.

I’m Gonna Show You All The F I S H I’ve Been Carving This Week And THEN We’ll Talk

fish :)

carved from rubber not linoleum

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THE FOUNDER GAME - CH 2

some of you may be wondering why im posting the ch2 chart the day after ch3 dropped. well you see, i had to start this from scratch 5 times and theres no greater feeling then the realization your canvas is 10 pixels too short. again. that being said, i broke this into two parts because if it was on one page id eat my notebook. so wish me luck on ch3 which is way larger, ill be doing it too. hopefully this is useful, i enjoy trying to help, and ill probably be doing my personal thoughts and breakdown of the founders game soon because this is really really cool :D -Tophat

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THE FOUNDER GAME - Ch 1

start v

https://www.thefoundergame.com i wanted to make a map of the founders game that could be put up on a single image since it helps organize info, if anyone can use it here you go! -Tophat

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Tophat notices a tiny insignificant detail and rants about it

im nothing if not a theorist of the people. Anyways! if i only have a week left to make TSE theories then why dont we break down something a bit less chatted for! The Posters! most of the posters have cool details to them, or theory potential that doesnt quite break the records but has more then a few times been evidence to theories so why not just do a formal breakdown of them now. this ones got a lot of pictures Ep 3 poster

couple of basic things for this. a concept thats used for alot of Gen 1 is the use of red and green. in this case its red and green light on his legs. it can also be seen on the TFC promo photos for 'Again', the Ep2 trailer, a handful of different scenes, and also on other posters! the other thing cool about the ep 3 poster is how its a direct mirror of the last and first time we see The Hero.

this was the first time we see The Hero from its similarly named youtube promo piece, and at the time there was even theory that he has blood on his hands. Ep 2 poster

The ep 2 poster, im actually here for the posing. its the beginning warehouse shot, but awake and staring off into the middle distance. I have a theory that this image is actually ranboo in idle. We see on a few occasions that actors or employees not in use get 'paused' in place where they can be managed by the production team and dont really perceive time passing. But at the start of every episode we also see ranboo coming out of idle from TV static. The VHS player in the cabin turns off and ranboo wakes up, the TV Puzzler uses turns off and he wakes up, Hetch's several screen pointing at where ep 2 ends, its a consistent case. ranboo thinks that TSE happened over the course of maybe a day and a half, not over the course of a week. The ep1 trailer shows ranboo staring blankly at the TV in the cabin and i think this poster is the same thing. Ep 1 poster

this poster is a bunch of cool tiny details wrapped together and i love it, this is the poster i own. so heres four cool things 1- hes facing the 4th wall but looking directly away from it. 2- this flashlight is on set but he never uses it, instead during the show he shines it in his eyes between audience choices in the basement several times. 3- its designed to look weathered, spirit of the cabin was based off of old horror and its designed like its been sitting in an attic for 50+ years. 4- on the website the poster is right but on physical copies charlie is credited as "Smilecicle" VHS

im deciding to count this one which is on the genloss twitter, based on how even if its not for purchase, this is a poster. its weathered like the Ep 1 poster, and incorporates green light beaming from it on the ground like other works. All of the posters are representative of their episodes but also show direct changes or discrepancies. For Ep1, there was never an involvement of the flashlight. Ep 2 started by him waking up instead of straight from idle. The Ep 3 poster has him standing idle as the final showing instead of restrained (which was actually made into finished concept art before getting scraped to avoid poster spoilers). And finally the founders glove in the poster is more visually appealing in red but the first time we see the founders collection the gloves were black. Least to say, attention to detail is cool and so is @kertoir who made all of this. Theory Time Before Founders Game!! -Tophat p.s. the list of VHS codes is still being updated daily on my page and i plan to continue that :)

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In the basement scene on a VHS, there's a cut to a screen with the letters "I N G" in placements that suggest a bunch of missing letters. Has anyone else informed you about different letters?

Each VHS has 1/3 versions of this!

beg-inn-ing

its the password for the founders game

great check in :D

-Tophat

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VHS Coordinates

generation loss VHS tapes come accompanied with a letter/number combo and over several different platforms ive compiled as many as i can. i plan to live update this as i hear about new codes till we learn how to use this information till then, i wanted to give everyone an equal opportunity to theorize!

feel free to send me any new or that ive missed! -Tophat EDIT: huge thanks to ghost for helping me buff up my list, and thanks to anyone whos been sending me codes you've seen me missing, this is how we thrive :)

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What to do with your VHS

Hi! did you just aquire the generation loss TSE VHS but dont know what exactly to do? so far, heres what we suggest you look out for. 1 - Discrepancies or cut in additions during the show are typically upside down or met with a harsh sound effect. 2 - Any official looking labeling should be read through because notes from or about showfall media has been put in character. 3 - Somewhere on the tape should be a hand scratched number/letter combo for example "A32, X1, EE10" If you dont have your dads 2^ft VHS player to rely on, or the technical knowhow to put it onto a flatscreen id suggest checking out a library! who might have one, or suggest where one can be found. posting these things on tumblr, discord, or sending them to someone who CAN circulate the information helps keeping the communication flowing! if you dont know anyone who could circulate the information? send it to me. this is an invitation, and if i didnt offer that after telling you to spread word itd be kinds dumb. we have roughly 2 weeks left on the timer and this is where pivotal theory crafting is made, when we ALL have information at the same time. Founders Game In One Day Lets Go!!! -Tophat

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The Founders Game

one of the VHS tapes gave us this website https://www.thefoundergame.com/ The password is BEGINNING it opens when 10,000 people enter

GENLOSERS UNITE

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so anyway i have alot of unwritten, unfinished, uncertain material that still makes for cool ideas and theories any time i try to think about them the dialup sound plays in my brain. but hey! if anyone thinks this would be interesting id love to know! and if anyone has a prompt like "what do you you think [thing] means" or "why did they do [X] and not [Y]" i would love to hear it :D -Tophat

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first name tophat, last name theories (ง •̀_•́)ง

holy shit tophat theories (positive)

(And yes tophat, i will fight you)

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Put up your dukes buddy

Tophat:best genloss theorizer

Fight me

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Release date theory

gen 0 is releasing in the next few months based on all the prepwork being done for it and i got thinking about promo and stuff. "From the desk of the founder" we have SEEN the desk of the founder from twitter

Then i realized that comic, The Lumpits dated November 4th 1990 w e l l Chronicle 0 is a twitter spinoff story we have of Miss Roads Zero's journal. and it was connected to us on the date of its beginning's anniversary specifically July 30th 2023 from the journal title written July 30th 19XX we know that the founders 'connection' is stronger on an anniversary we know that "the connection is getting stronger"

and recently since this is from T_3 I propose that weather its the full gen 0 release or something else

that we are coming up on something fast -Tophat