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Qui-Gonn: Allows for Anakin’s mother to remain in slavery on Tattooine
Yoda and Jedi Council: Tell Anakin that they don’t trust him from day one because he dares to be a normal kid by missing his mom they separated him from and left in slavery, only to refuse to let him keep in touch with her.
Yoda: Repeatedly warns his members that “Fear leads to the dark side.”
Also Yoda: Regularly enables, encourages, enforces, and implements acts, crimes, decisions, politicians, policies, and practices that he knows are corrupt, dangerous, dishonest, invalidating, hurtful, oppressive, and unfair within his Order and the Republic to maintain and obtain control, security, and “peace” because he is too afraid to face the unknown by taking a risk to stand up for what’s right instead. He then covers this up by telling himself and his recruits that the horrible things they enabled and/or perpetrated were “for the greater good” because he’s too much of an arrogant coward to admit that he deliberately didn’t practice what he preached.
Jedi Council and Obi Wan: Constantly gaslight and shame Anakin as “dangerous” for having completely normal and valid human feelings of anger, concern for loved ones, desires, and fears. Restrict his ability to develop any sort independence and personal life outside of just the Jedi Order. Warn him against developing any close and meaningful personal relationships altogether because they’re “dangerous.”
Jedi Council and Obi Wan Kenobi: Use the whole “chosen one destined to destroy the Sith” prophecy he’s been foretold to fulfill by Qui-Gonn Jinn as a sword to hold above Anakin’s head to guilt trip him into staying with them after being knighted and/or to shame him for not fulfilling his potential repeatedly, particularly throughout the clone wars because he’s such a useful powerful weapon for their own benefits, even though they can all tell that he wants to pull away from the Jedi Order and go his own way because he felt it was too chaotic, isolating, and toxic of an environment for him to be able to handle emotionally.
Jedi Council and Obi Wan: Teach Anakin there’s no way back to the light after a Jedi goes dark and teach him to defer his moral integrity “for the greater good” of their cause, even if he knows it’s technically morally wrong.
Obi-Wan, Mace-Windu, Yoda, and rest of Jedi Council: Allow for a 9-12 year old Anakin to speak unsupervised to Chancellor Palpatine when he threatens to ruin their public reputation and take away their power in the government if they say no since he has power over them as Chancellor of the Senate.
Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Jedi Council: Tell Anakin to either be happy about the deaths of loved ones, to get over them being in potential danger, and/or do nothing to help potentially prevent it whenever he tries to ask them for advice about how to deal with fear.
Obi Wan and Jedi Council: Expect for Anakin to follow their code, and put him on a leash. However, they break their own code whenever it suits them, particularly throughout the war, but still claim to be “peacekeepers of the galaxy.”
Yoda and Jedi Council: Give Anakin big responsibilities in the clone wars as a general of an army, and give him a padawan, even when he tries to tell them he’s not feeling ready for those responsibilities.
Yoda: Deliberately insists on giving Anakin a padawan to train, even when he tried to say he was not ready, precisely because he wanted for Anakin to grow attached to her, so that he could use that attachment he developed for Ahsoka against him as a “test” of the young Jedi knight’s ability to let go of attachments he makes. As soon as Anakin and Ahsoka grow to genuinely love each other, Yoda decides to implement this test of Anakin’s ability to let go of attachments by deliberately making a decision to put Anakin’s 14 year old padawan in the front line of their army in battles when she’s still in training.
Obi-Wan and Jedi Council: Decide to emotionally/psychologically traumatize a 21 year old Anakin by faking Obi Wan’s death for a mission because “he can’t be trusted since he’s too emotional.”
Yoda: Enables the incredibly unethical human genetic cloning and usage of soldiers when Palpatine commissions him an army of them for the soldiers of his organization to use to go to war because he is too much of a coward to risk his organization’s public reputation and security within an elite Republic to do the right thing.
Yoda, Jedi Council, and Obi-Wan: Expect for Anakin to help out the slaver Jabba on his home planet in the outer rims to preserve their position when he tries to say doing it would make him feel uncomfortable, considering the fact that he used to be a slave there, which they know about. Yet, they still make him do it, even though they claim to stand “for democracy.”
Jedi Council, Yoda, and Obi-Wan: Almost execute Anakin’s padawan Ahsoka, who they knew Anakin grew attached to, by prosecuting her for a crime they’re not sure she committed with flimsy and lackluster evidence, and then exile her.
Jedi Council: Refuse to let Anakin have a seat on the Council as master in Revenge of the Sith because he’s suddenly “too unstable and untrustworthy,” even though they allowed for him to speak alone to Palpatine when he was a child under their care, and were completely okay with knighting him, pressuring him to be general of their army, and pressuring him to have a padawan in the clone wars not long before.
Yoda and rest of Jedi Council: In spite of their earlier dismissal of Anakin’s request for a seat on the Council because he was “too untrustworthy” and too close to the Chancellor they let him speak to alone for their own benefits from the time he was a child under their care, they ultimately decide to let Anakin have a seat on the Council in Revenge of the Sith, but only because they realize they can use Anakin’s relationship with Palpatine as a tool to spy on the Chancellor to find out if their suspicions about him being a Sith Lord are correct and arrest him without the rest of the Senate’s consent or knowledge because they don’t trust them.
Obi-Wan: Acts as the Jedi Council’s messenger to Anakin after they decide to let him on the Council without the rank of master, so they can use him as a mole to commit treason against Palpatine upon their suspicions of him being shady, even though he knows it is an illegal and risky mission.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Obnoxiously accuses Anakin of using his friendship with the Chancellor to get a seat as master on the Council with no evidence that he has done so at all. Obi-Wan Kenobi wasn’t in the room with Palpatine and Anakin when they were talking, so he wouldn’t know if Anakin actually asked for a seat on the Council in Revenge of the Sith. Even if Anakin really had asked for a seat on the Council, though, Obi-Wan still wouldn’t have any right to be upset that Anakin got close to the Chancellor because he was his primary caretaker, who allowed for them to develop that friendship in the first place for his and the Council’s own benefits when he was a child under their care, in spite of their growing suspicions in regards to Palpatine.
Anakin: Makes the bad decision of agreeing to accept the Council’s request to spy on Palpatine, so they can ultimately arrest him because he’s been getting taught to see the Jedi as “good guys” his whole life, and he feels too pressured to stay to please and protect those he cares about.
Mace Windu: Blatantly undermines Anakin’s intelligence, loyalty, and trustworthiness after he comes to him to tell him that Palpatine is a dark side user/Sith Lord after gaining intel for the Council to apprehend him by saying “If you’re right about him being the Sith Lord, I just
Palpatine: Grooming Anakin for the dark side, but Anakin doesn’t know that until the third act of RotS, so, it really just seems like the Palpatine is the only one who consistently treats him kindly next to every other adult he was raised by in the Jedi Order. Executes Order 66.
Anakin: Has a mental breakdown at 23. He turns to the dark side because he knows the Jedi Order is now inevitably doomed either way he chooses between Mace-Windu and Palpatine, and because he wants to protect himself and his family, which Palpatine promises him. Gets renamed Darth Vader by Sidious.
Yoda: Immediately decides to give Obi-Wan the task to apprehend and execute Anakin for his crimes against the Jedi Order without any further questions.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Goes about apprehending Anakin for his crimes against the Order very badly. Yes, Anakin needed to be stopped and punished for his crimes. However, just like Yoda, he never thinks to reflect on just how fucked up the Jedi Order was as a system in its methods. He never thinks to ask Anakin why he chose to turn to the dark side in the first place. He hides on Padme’s ship, even after she tells Obi-Wan that she wants to go speak to her husband alone, so that he can find Anakin to execute him for Yoda. He willingly puts her life at risk as bait with an unhinged Anakin by making his presence known and intentions to execute him explicitly clear right when Padme tells him she can’t be with him when he’s being like this.
No, Anakin is not an innocent for recklessly endangering her life by strangling her in a blind paranoid rage either. While the move didn’t ultimately kill her in and of itself, it could have, and it did contribute to her ultimate demise in Revenge of the Sith. He does hold partial responsibility for doing that to her. However, Obi-Wan also knew that Anakin’s anger, paranoia, and self-control were going to be much more easily triggered on the high of the dark side for the first time. He could overhear the entire conversation that he was having with Padme when she was telling him she loved him, but couldn’t be with him. He knew that Anakin felt worried that they were having an affair and/or plotting against him at the back of his mind because he and Padme kept meeting up with each other alone when he wasn’t around without telling him everything. He overheard Anakin say “Because of Obi-Wan” when she refused to follow him after he had committed crimes against the Jedi Order and Republic. Then, right after she says “no,” Obi-Wan decides to make his presence on her ship known to Anakin in a manner that makes his intention to execute him blatantly obvious. It was only then that Anakin grabbed Padme’s throat in a blind rage with the force.
Sure, Anakin was being completely in-denial and irrational at this point. Padme wasn’t wrong to not want to have anything to do with him after he committed crimes against the Order and Republic, and started talking to her about wanting to rule the galaxy with her. However, he still hadn’t laid a hand on Padme, even when he was feeling angry with her for refusing to follow him. It was only when Obi-Wan made his presence known from her ship with blatant hostility.
Obi-Wan Kenobi-Actually manages to convince Anakin to drop Padme from the reckless force choke before he can kill her.
Anakin: Actually comes down from his high on the dark side in his rage enough to give Obi-Wan an opportunity to not fight him to the death in a duel on Mustafar after he’s convinced to let go of Padme.
Obi-Wan Kenobi- Still decides to pursue his execution of Anakin for Yoda in a duel on Mustafar, even after he gets Anakin down to a place where his former padawan let go of Padme and told him that he didn’r want to have to fight him.
Even after getting the upper hand over Anakin on Mustafar, Obi-Wam is too cowardly and low-key vindictive to just end his former friend’s suffering by killing him swiftly. Instead, he makes the decision to cut off all of Anakin’s organic limbs when he tries to make a jump to the high ground to catch up to Obi Wan over hot lava, let’s him catch on fire, rants at him as he screams in agony on fire, steals his lightsaber, and walks away.
Anakin: Survives the burn injuries with the aid of a life support suit that Palpatine crafts for him to make him his attack dog, enforcer of galactic enslavement, supreme military commander, and murder slave Darth Vader.
Obi-Wan and Yoda: Oh no! How did this happen? Where did we go wrong? It’s all just Palpatine’s, Anakin’s, Dooku’s, and the Sith’s fault the galaxy is fucked up! Our system could never be wrong! The only things we ever did wrong were in trusting Palpatine with power in the Senate, and we were too “soft” on our recruits! We taught healthy coping, relationship, and social skills by pretending emotions and individuality didn’t exist at all and denying them all right? The methods we used to recruit, train, and “protect” the Jedi to keep them “pure” weren’t at all so deeply abusive, confusing, controlling, invalidating, isolating, and restrictive that they could have created such deeply-seeded emotional/psychological trauma in Anakin and these other force-sensitive kids we took in to irrevocably scar them for life, right? The choices we made, the code we preached, and the laws and system we enforced and implemented weren’t at all that traumatizing, right? We were good parents, supervisors, and teachers, right?
In fact, we were too good of parents to Anakin and Dooku. That’s really be why Anakin and Dooku went dark…We were too nice to them. We should have been harder on them with the rules and our system.
Let’s sit in hiding together for the next two decades while our former “chosen one” helps terrorize the galaxy with Sidious, so that we can attempt to train his innocent son as a weapon to destroy the monster we inadvertently helped turn his father into all those years ago. It’s all “for the greater good,” and not at all an attempt to try to absolve ourselves of our own mistakes with Anakin, the Jedi Order, and the rise of the Empire because we are too afraid to face them and take responsibility for them. It’s totally the right thing to do!
Stop judging us and asking questions, Luke! Just do as we say! Don’t be emotional like your dad was! Don’t go save your friends when their lives are in danger because “attachments lead to the dark side.” Training you to be a weapon to clean up the mess we helped create with your dad and the Empire before you were born twenty years ago is more important!
Luke, Anakin, Ahsoka, Palpatine, Dooku, and many of us in the audience watching: *Facepalms and sighs in annoyance*
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Fr tho working class women in revolutionary France were very active in politics, they took the Bastille, they brought the king to Paris, they bullied deputies for not being radical enough, but bc their main priority was giving their families bread they get ignored and put down while rich and noble women are the ones that become `feminist` icons? Whack
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anakin, a traumatised child with obvious mental health issues that no one’s adressing or trying to help him with: shows signs of maybe not being in the best place mentally
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Media and books influenced by Thermidorian propaganda
Here are some facts we take for granted that revolutionaries didn't know that will blow your mind
Learning to Be a Lawyer in 18thc France
Brief historiography on women, the law, marriage and divorce (scroll down)
Brief overview of the Thermidorian Reaction
On Saint-Just's Personality: An Introduction
Saint-Just in Five (Long) Sentences
Random Sources and References on Saint-Just's Youth (In French)
Louise Michel's Poem on Saint-Just
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Part 1 - A Note On Objectivity and Two Approaches (introduction) + Culture: Enlightenment and Antiquity
Part 2 - Ideological Stakes
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My thoughts and analysis of Saint-Just's unsent letter to Villain d’Aubigny
A (brief?) introduction to Saint-Just’s many faces and myths
Could Saint-Just have been neurodivergent?
Why Enjolras was inspired by Saint-Just: comparing the text of the brick to Saint-Just’s Romantic Myth
An Episode of the Thermidorian Reaction: the Attack on the Club des Jacobins and the Misogynist Targetting of Women
How the pamphlet about the Club infernal locates them in the circle of Wrath and not Treason - the latter would out them as counterrevolutionaries
Can we call the French Revolution a "fandom"? The invention of celebrity culture, etc.
The differences between Thermidorian propaganda and Anglo-American propaganda (and where they overlap)
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Élisabeth Lebas corrects Alphonse de Lamartine’s Histoire des Girondins (1847) (by anotherhumaninthisworld)
Regulations for the internal exercises of the College of Louis-le-Grand (by anotherhumaninthisworld)
Were Robespierre and Desmoilins together at Louis-le-Grand? (by robespapier and anotherhumaninthisworld)
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One myth on Saint-Just (by saintjustitude and frandrest)
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What are your thoughts on the scenes between Anakin and the Council in TPM? I feel like a lot of fans jump on 9yo Anakin for not being willing to admit his fears to a group of twelve strange adults who could sense his emotions and were telling him as much, all of two days after he was freed from a lifetime of slavery. But like, given the circumstances . . . why would he being willing to talk about his feelings right then?
you know, i've written about that scene before, and i honestly think anakin takes everything really damn well for a nine year old who left his only family yesterday and has only known being exploited for labor. in general anakin in TPM does a really bang-up job for a kid in his circumstances, and we really don't give babykin enough credit for the chad that he was; legal property, and he was still like MOVE OVER, I'VE GOT THIS about pretty much every obstacle in the film except being cold, and you know what, when a bitch is cold a bitch is cold and that shit sucks, he was right about that. TPM anakin made only chad moves. it really sucks that that was like, the height of anakin's emotional security and reasoning and rationality. he would've owned as a guy if everything under the sun hadn't been wrong with him.
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and do you know, we have no reason to believe anakin is told that his mind is going to be read and this is normal before it actually happens, and even if someone did explain that he was going to be in a psychic panopticon, he would still have every right to feel really weird about that. he's a) nine and b) legitimately still carrying the deactivated bomb of the last authority he was beholden to, who chose to use that authority to toss anakin into actual, literal bloodsport, with no expectation anakin would survive without dying or being terribly maimed. anakin is shuttled from that immediately to this; no wonder, decades later, darth vader is so keen on leveraging mind probes against people, when there's this kind of brutal scene where he's at the center of one. i'm sure it made a bad impression.
it's a really bad first impression, honestly, and the jedi council isn't even trying to make it a bad first impression, but it's still phenomenally shitty. yoda goes off on a tangent about the dark side, but there's legitimately no reason for anakin to know that there's two sides of the force at all and that evil jedi a) exist and b) you can become one, so there's no way this kid has any idea the gravity of yoda's sage wisdom. whatever yoda was trying to say effectively goes over anakin's head because anakin lacks the background knowledge to understand it; but it does terrify the shit out of anakin, because he walks out of this council meeting, traipses up to qui-gon, and goes, "i don't want to be a problem, sir." holy shit! they met this kid half an hour ago! how did you already make him feel like a burden to you, it's been half an hour! like, i cannot emphasize enough that i don't think the council is malicious, here. i don't think they intend to cause harm - i think they're erring on the side of caution and that's fair, and they don't have to accept every upstart that comes along into the Jedi Baby Program. but they handle it with very little thought to the actual kid they're passing judgment on, and cause the very kind of fear they're trying to admonish in doing so. i don't want to be a problem, sir = i'm terrified of inconveniencing you.
and anakin has already done the thing the council is criticizing him for not being able to do. he was terrified to lose his mother, and he did it anyway. i feel like that detail is imperative to the series and it gets glossed over a lot, but anakin, king of never letting anything go, lets his mother go! if this was about warning anakin off of attachment, christ, shouldn't they have been congratulating him? shouldn't it have been a good sign that he's there at all, an indication that anakin is actually capable of the emotional work a jedi needs to be able to do? considering he's literally just done it, explicitly for the sake of being a jedi? anakin has already demonstrated the ability to sacrifice to become a jedi; this is more than any initiate raised at the temple can claim. their observations of anakin's mental state are more reason to welcome him, by their own standards, not less. i like comparing this moment to the last one anakin has with shmi; he runs back to her, says that he can't do it, and she says that he can, and that he has to accept this change, and she reassures him.
and then he does it. he walks away. he's mourning her and he's upset but he's made the decision; if the jedi are supposed to be about letting yourself feel the grief, the fear, and then not letting it stop you or interfere with your decisions, why is anakin getting yelled at here? he did exactly as the playbook indicated without knowing what was in the playbook! as an untrained kid coming from a pretty hideous background, holy shit, he's doing numbers! this kid's the GOAT! he's a nine year old who repeatedly puts life and limb on the line for people he met three seconds ago, up to and including accidentally child soldiering himself! sign him up for Jedi Baby School immediately, this fucker's a natural.
you know what i was, as an abused nine year old? a complete asshole known for biting people. anakin doesn't even bite one person in the course of the film, and this is a kid who can get blown up because his owner thought it'd be funny, if he had bitten anyone who touched him i would've classified it an appropriate psychological reaction to his life. why is anyone upset with him because he's terrified on the inside? it doesn't stop him even once throughout the course of the film! isn't that supposed to be the idea, that he has all these big feelings and yet they never hold him back? is this not the platonic ideal of the jedi, the rapscallion who risks it all to save the lives of people who are nobodies to him, who cares deeply but still is capable of rationally making a choice? he was better at this with only his mother's advice than he was after a decade of formal training.
it's not even that anakin should be expected to vomit his feelings everywhere on the spot - why would anyone who knows anything about abused, vulnerable kids argue that they should force themselves to be vulnerable, that's an awful idea - it's also that the jedi know his feelings already, and they shouldn't be judging him for them by the merits of their own beliefs, but they are. the jedi were panopticoning his baby brain; if anakin had been honest about his feelings, the scene wouldn't have changed at all, because it wasn't about his honesty, it was the feelings themselves that were the issue. and the idea that anakin was the one in the wrong because he simply did not prostrate himself enough before his betters and bend to their every whim and desire is completely buckwild to me.
i think if your takeaway from a scene in which a bunch of adults make a child cry for no real reason is, "it must be the children who are wrong!" you possibly have misread the scene, and, you know, george lucas has talked about how he intentionally wrote this bit to reflect on the jedi poorly, because the council was supposed to be an obstacle in TPM. TPM was all about forces that are nominally for good not acting on their mandates, and thus evil spreads - the senate, the council, it all ties into that line about no one helping each other - and the jedi are not exempt from lucas' heavy-handed themes. this doesn't make the jedi more evil than literally anyone else in space, it just makes them fallible. i do think we're supposed to read this as a fuck up, i really do.
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"You hate me; but your abhorrence cannot equal that with which I regard myself"
(I've just finished reading "Frankenstein" and I suddenly wanted to do nothing else but draw a fake cover-art. As you do.)
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