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I think the end of “Hold Them Down” ending with a hard, nonverbal “I Think The Fuck You Won’t-” from Odysseus was very sexy.

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All hail Jorge Rivera-Herrans.

Gotta be my fav fanfic writer 🫶

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MERRY ITHACA SAGA 🔱

Probably my favorite scene in all of Epic: the Musical i got the SHIVERS when i heard this in the vengeance saga premiere party

Pretty proud of this, my first fully rendered comic w an actual storyline~

Odysseus's design is inspired by duvetbox and gigi's awesome design

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Odysseus in the Wisdom saga: "All I hear are screams...."

*looks at the ending in the song Odysseus in the Ithaca saga*

OKAY, THAT WAS NOT COOL MAN-

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As much as I loved the Ithaca saga, I really wish we got to see Athena fighting for her OTP (for my own enjoyment ofc) like where is Athena threatening the suitors families not to go after Ody even though he murdered majority of Ithacan nobility. Where is Athena making the night move slower so Odysseus and Penelope can have more time together??? I love Epic so much, but depriving me of shipper Athena is such a devastating reality.

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Waiting is Odysseus's mom's song

Waiting is Odysseus's crew's song

And now,

Waiting is Penelope's song

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Midnight Thought on the Ithaca Saga (spoilers)

When Athena is hoping for a kinder world, I like how Odysseus doesn’t shoot her down (I think he had his fill of that with the suitors, ha ha ha), but just says it won’t be in his life. Why? Because he’s not saying it’s impossible, just that that kind of change takes more time and sacrifice than he can give. And that actually reminded me of something: in the Bible, King David wanted to build a temple to God, but God said no because of all the blood on his hands- David was a king during wartime, he is not meant to lead Israel in peace. But his son, Solomon? He would be the peacetime king, he built the temple, and coincidentally was also known for his wisdom (and his 700 concubines, but that’s irrelevant here).

Basically- TELEMACHUS AND ATHENA WORKING TO MAKE THE WORLD BETTER!!!

[I don’t really think Jorge was using the David-Solomon thing as inspiration or a reference, I just thought it was a cool similarity- especially the wisdom part, which I only realized while writing this. ]

Telemachus wants to “bring the world some light,” and she accepted his friendship rather than just a mentor-mentee relationship, showing that she’s opening her arms. Together, they can make a greater tomorrow that she couldn’t do with Odysseus. His part in the war was important, but there’s still work to be done, work Telemachus is very eager to accomplish.

He was also just coming back from a “diplomatic mission,” which shows more of that open arms mindset, something even the more innocent version of Odysseus didn’t really do! (I know in the actual Odyssey he went in search of his dad, but I don’t think that’s the same case here since there was no mention of a plan to do that on his end, plus Jorge had to change how Odysseus actually made it back to the island to fit his story.) Diplomacy is a lot about alliances and making peace, not about outsmarting/outmaneuvering enemies. It still requires wisdom and intelligence, but the world is not changed for the better by swords alone.

Odysseus’ story required him to embrace ruthlessness, but because of that, his son Telemachus doesn’t have to.

And I am so PSYCHED for the new wisdom duo. GO MAKE A GREATER TOMORROW!!!

[edit: it also ties into one of Circe’s last lines: “maybe one day the world will need a puppeteer no more”]

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yk how everyone in the odyssey is always “oh odysseus is so awesome” “oh i could speak for hours of wily odysseus”. i like to think that diomedes is the opposite. everyone expects him to be the worst since they were so close but every time someone asks diomedes about odysseus he’s all “odysseus? what a useless fuck. yeah he thought of the horse but jesus it took him long enough”

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Oh my gosh…

What is this??

POSEIDON IS EATING THE INTERNET

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Christopher Nolan must secretly be an Epic fan because why else does he suddenly want to adapt the odyssey into a movie? Clearly, he has been binge watching all of Jay's yap sessions and uses a secret account to scream "CAPTAIN" in live chats. Only logical explanation.

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Odysseus: how can you love me when I’m a moNsTeeR

Penelope: get in the flipping bed

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The end part of “Would You Fall In Love With Me Again” where you can hear the instrumental of “Just a Man” had me SOBBING

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How I thought Odypen was before I listened to Ithaca saga:

Odysseus: Would you love me if I was a worm?

Penelope: *fond, exasperated sigh and eyeroll* Yes, love.

How I think they are after I listened Ithaca saga:

Odysseus: Would you love me if-

Penelope: Yes

Odysseus:

Peneleope: *looking him in the eyes* Yes.

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She legit said, "Okay, bye-" and dipped when Ody went, "Not now, I gotta see my lady," without a second thought.

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Mercy? MERCY?!

Kicking my feet, loving Odysseus murdering 108 men for his wifey and son

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Penelope ~

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Penelope: Would I fall in love with you again? Hmmm, well. Can you also move our marriage bed over there? Hmmm? What? I thought we were pretending to be stupid by asking the most idiotic questions.