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what if eugene found out the truth about joel and the salt lake hospital? we know he was a firefly, had the whole library look out with radios, he could have stayed in touch with them. he could have heard what went down at the hospital - get the description of the man who rampaged the hospital. he could’ve put two and two together about ellie and joel, perhaps figure out that joel was not telling the whole truth; to her or anybody else for that matter.
we don’t know the relationship between eugene and ellie but what if he was the one who told ellie the truth? perhaps not directly - she could have found the lookout, search through it and find the recordings. for joel, eugene would be a liability in terms of ruining any possible chances of fixing the relationship he had with ellie. maybe eugene confronted joel about it, which threatened his already fragile relationship with ellie.
from the “you swore” scene, it looks like it happened in jackson. also, during the sniper scene of joel, he’s wearing the same outfit (i know they don’t exactly own that many clothes in apocalypse but still). joel killed eugene. and the reason could lie within this.
gail knew it was joel who killed her husband. perhaps, she knew, too - what happened in the hospital. put two and two together pretty soon - that’s why she knew joel was lying to her. maybe eugene’s death was classified as accident, or that he got bitten when in fact, it was joel who killed him. it appears that it is not a common knowledge that joel killed him otherwise he couldn’t stay in the settlement.
eugene could have been a walking reminder for joel that the truth would come out eventually, no matter what.
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i understand the need to introduce abby sooner - it is a different format and they could not really wait another season to give the audience her backstory. although i can’t help the fact that the scene just felt so cheap and straight out of really bad teen show. the acting in the scene is off, it feels so forced. the entire conversation, mel’s stance - she was the one who wanted to go after joel in the game.
it felt rushed and the most uneccessary part about it was abby’s comment about “killing joel slowly”. their plan is to find him and kill him - there’s no word about how. the way abby kills him shocks the entire group but mel especially, because she is a medic. abby puts her in a moral dilema, when she forces her to stop joel’s bleeding knee, so that she could prolong his suffering, according to abby’s order. they don’t know what they got themselves into.
it’s visible when they return from jackson. nora is shaken, owen keeps picking up open assignments, mel’s fucked up and manny is trying to put on a brave face to keep the group together. and abby - she is left with no salvation, only nightmares.
there was no point in mentioning it - the audience is supposed to resonate with wlf crew in terms of being shocked by abby’s actions. they say they wanted to tone down the violence yet makes the entire group suddenly on board with borderline torture of joel.
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i think gail’s words to joel were supposed to mirror his and ellie’s final conversation. just with the exception that ellie chose a different ending, as opposed to gail. ellie would like to try and forgive him, gaul refuses to. which, in a way, also mirrors the entire plot of the story; abby’s too.
abby could not let go until the final moment, then no salvation come. hence gail, getting drunk and spilling the truth the joel; the anger that boiled up - but no feeling of relief came. but ellie, at last, spares abby. she does not go through it, she breaks the cycle.
just a thought.
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ellie acting recklessly and being a brat as some say, stems from two things.
first; joel keeps having a final say over decisions regarding ellie, despite the fact that she is an adult and they are not exactly on speaking terms. joel repeteadly does not respect ellie’s wishes. ellie can’t train probably, ellie can’t go on patrol because what would joel say. she’s fed up with the fact that she could set the goddamn settlement on fire and no one would say shit because she’s joel’s kid.
joel and ellie fall out because he decided to make a decision for her. and he continues to do so, despite knowing that ellie disagrees with that. jesse, tommy and even dina know that at the end of the day, it’s what joel says and not ellie. she is fed up with not being taken seriously, so she rebells, hence the supermarket store. her recklesness costs her a bite.
the city council does nothing - maria senses that ellie is telling the truth and they are off the hook, left to apologise to kat and that’s all. nonetheless that ellie and dina could have put the whole group at danger, had there been more runners. you see it in her demeanor, when she walks off.
second; ellie lost a purpose. for the entire roadtrip across the states, ellie sees people around her die and she is left hopeless — the guilt holds tighter around her neck; she needs her immunity to mean something. people had died on the way to get her to fireflies and she needs herself to believe, they didn’t die for nothing. riley, sam, tess. kind of like all those firefly soldiers that killed themselves after joel rampaged the hospital. all the deaths, the time, the pain, was for nothing.
ellie hangs onto her immunity; she’s too deep in her survivor’s guilt to see clearly. she needs their deaths to not be left in vain. and joel not only robs her of that - he continues to lie to her for several years. ellie’s entire world falls apart. she’s reckless because she has nothing left to lose, anymore. the one thing, the one thing that could have, in her mind, fixed it all, was gone. and there is joel, who, after what he had done, continues to have a say over matters in her life.
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i think ellie acting like a brat was the entire point and not a bad acting. ellie is pissed at joel, having justified reasons including the fact that he is incredibly overbearing. she can’t learn to properly fight, because joel would make hell at city council if ellie came home with a black eye; hence what jesse says. ellie told joel (i presume the conversation that took place in salt lake will be somewhat same - in the sense of meaning) that they are done, yet he keeps interfering and making decisions for her — which is the entire reason of ellie not speaking to him! he made decision for her and continues to do so.
however good the intention is, ellie cannot see it. ellie sees it as joel not respecting her wish; not him being a regular protective parent. are we forgetting that ellie was an orphan? she does not see this as a average parent being protective; she sees this as joel still trying to have a say despite ellie’s wishes to leave her alone. joel continues to repeat the reason why she’s not speaking to him.
people keep bringing up the snipper scene - it is the same thing. ellie wants to do something (go on patrol) but it joel who has the final say, not her, even though she is adult by that time. she’s fed up with it, and christ, she is a teenager, at last. she spent five years in jackson, she became a teenager in a relatively safe environment with new years parties and bonfires. she’s allowed to be bratty.
she is tired of the fact that joel does not give her space - the guitar scene; it is a kind gesture on joel’s part but ellie didn’t ask for it. i understand it from his point, too - he can’t bear the thought of losing ellie. he can’t bear not being in her life - at least not knowing anything.
but ellie is fed up with joel breathing down her neck. she wants to show she is capable on her own, hence the patrol, the full gear. she’s riddiculed for it; she’s not taken seriously because joel is there, putting her in that position. she wants to have a final say but joel keeps on robbing her of that.
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is maria pregnant again?
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˚༄࿔ thinking of musician ellie who’s a total yapper on stage
i’m imagining those tiktok compilations like “… core” with music in the background
⭐︎ reading signs from the audience while her band (jesse and dina ofc) prepare for the next song like…
“this one says ‘ellie why did you invite so many people to our first date?’” the audience laughs and so does ellie, “sorry, the next one will just be us.” she says with a wink.
⭐︎ girls throwing lacy bras on stage and ellie holding them up to her own chest (that look comically big next to her) and saying, “this is not my size.” >:(
⭐︎ her going on absolute rants in between songs like “dude the weed in europe is way stronger, what the fuck are you putting in this shit? i thought i was dying.”
⭐︎ if her band is just her, jesse, dina she’d be like “we’re like boygenius…but with a man.” and they spend five minutes arguing about who’s who.
“how did we decide i’m julien?”
“because you’re short and gay, ellie.”
⭐︎ her trying to hold a lesbian (or other pride flag), getting tangled in it, and whispering “fuck” into the microphone in between lyrics.
⭐︎ tripping over wires on stage and telling everyone in the crowd to “delete that video right now. i’m not kidding.” as dina is laughing in the back.
⭐︎ reading more signs. “okay, okay this one says ‘it’s my birthday’ guys we gotta sing.” and singing happy birthday to a random fan.
⭐︎ handing fans the microphone and letting them tell stories about their crazy exes “she slept with your mom?” and she’d look the camera projecting her image on the screen behind her and back at the person. “what the fuck, dude.” while laughing behind a hand.
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this is so personal to me you don't understand
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my shaylas
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i have my reservations against the next season of the last of us, i think i made that quite clear -- yet i have always defended bella because i consider them an incredible actor. and to be honest, i am kind of disappointed how no one from the cast stood up for them regarding the hate they have been receiving since 2020ish when they got cast.
bella has been subject to vicious, ableist attacks and death threats and i find it quite ironic that abby's actress got special security from hbo, yet some "fan" at the premiere in sydney, who got to sit in the theatre with the actors, kept making disgusting jokes about bella, damn well knowing they could hear them, and no one bothered to do something.
the only person who stood up for bella regarding the bullying was craig mazin, otherwise absolute crickets. hbo did absolutely nothing to protect bella. have you seen the comments under max tlou's related posts? majority of them are heinously attacking bella and max does not even bother to delete them. what the fuck?
someone literally commented under a tiktok with the premiere red carpet in sydney, stating it would be a great place to unalive them. i wish i was fucking kidding. i am glad they offered security for kaitlyn, but where is the same approach to bella who has been bullied for 5 years?
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lmao i had to, enjoy
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also, BELLA IS SO HOT BYE
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they really embody the father-kiddo dynamic joel and ellie had, brb sobbing


Ouch🥹
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i have my fair share of doubts about the adaptation but i have to say i am really happy they not only kept the spaceship sequence but made it look exactly as in the game.
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i am physically unwell

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LOOK AT MY FAMILY

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i'd like to declare that this is not meant to be hate towards bella, i adore her, i be fighting twitter trolls for her 24/7. but i think the reasoning behind having abby less buffed is also tied to ellie's physical apperance in the show.
bella is generally very small and even now, people are not convinced she looks ellie's age (which is sort of funny when you realise she is the same age irl, but yeah same). she has some sort of baby face. so, if they put someone looking like game abby against bella, it would look kind of comical. i have to say. abby and ellie are, in my opinion only 2-3 years apart, but in the show, it would probably look like a ten-year age gap. people already say kaitlynn looks much older next to bella, which isn't far from the truth because abby's actress is almost thirty.
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