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It's kind of both, they see Judaism as just a religion, aka you can just enter and leave, and see secular Jews as either not being real Jews or having just the label and nothing else, which I guess helps make it much more palatable than the racism/whatever the ethnicity equivalent is that it really is

If you are against nazism you are antiaryan. It's as simple as that.

You can't oppose the state of the aryans who is supported by the majority of aryans without hating aryans. Maybe you don't realize your antiaryanism because it's so ingrained into western culture.

Of course you can criticize the actions of nazi germany and the fuhrer, but to imply that nazi germany or the reichskommisariats have no right to defend themselves/exist is blantant antiaryianism. I for one hate how Himmler is acting, which is why I would rather see a more reasonable fuhrer like Goebbles

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If we want to "get it right" and completely miss the point that the Nazi Aryan was completely made up and had nothing tangible to do with the actual Aryans, might as well get it right right.

The Aryans were the speakers of proto-Indo-Iranian or a very early offshoot of it, they lived in northern central Asia (evidenced by, among other things, the Uralic word for slave, which was derived from their name), they're associated with the Andronovo culture and sometimes also the Sintashta culture which invented the spoked wheel chariot, and they spread south to northern India and the Iranian plateau later on, bringing with them the Indo-Iranian languages, some of the earliest attestations of which being Vedic Sanskrit and Avestan.

If you are against nazism you are antiaryan. It's as simple as that.

You can't oppose the state of the aryans who is supported by the majority of aryans without hating aryans. Maybe you don't realize your antiaryanism because it's so ingrained into western culture.

Of course you can criticize the actions of nazi germany and the fuhrer, but to imply that nazi germany or the reichskommisariats have no right to defend themselves/exist is blantant antiaryianism. I for one hate how Himmler is acting, which is why I would rather see a more reasonable fuhrer like Goebbles

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I like how they're swapping Jews with Aryans in this post, as though Aryan wasn't essentially made up by the Germans for the explicit sake of Eugenics, while Jews are a legit group

If you are against nazism you are antiaryan. It's as simple as that.

You can't oppose the state of the aryans who is supported by the majority of aryans without hating aryans. Maybe you don't realize your antiaryanism because it's so ingrained into western culture.

Of course you can criticize the actions of nazi germany and the fuhrer, but to imply that nazi germany or the reichskommisariats have no right to defend themselves/exist is blantant antiaryianism. I for one hate how Himmler is acting, which is why I would rather see a more reasonable fuhrer like Goebbles

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Hey I wonder if they think the definition of Zionism is the one Israelis gave it, surely they're consistent, right?

You don’t deserve to celebrate a ceasefire if you called for an intifada

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New hobby: take posts from anti-Israel xenophobes and replace everything related to Israel with something generic so that it could apply to other countries, then admire how fascist it sounds all of a sudden

It’s so hilarious to me that people spent all this time the past year and a half boycotting and protesting Israeli goods, and now they’re flocking to RedNote in the wake of TikTok being possibly banned.

China has literally one of the worst industrialized oppression of Muslims on the planet. Like actual internment camps, forced labor, apartheid, and forced sterilization. Like r u serious.

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Anyways Israel used dogs to rape people and their kill count in this genocide is in the six digits. And yet you call palestinians "the killers" as if 2023 wasn't the deadliest year for palestinian children BEFORE oct 7th. Jeez I wonder why israelis are hated so much! I can console myself with the reality that the entire world knows they're nazis now even tho those cunts are going to continue doing genocide in 45 days

First of all, try writing one 'ask' instead of five, please and thank you.

Second of all:

used dogs to rape people

I couldn't find anything on the Middle East Monitor which as I've noted prior (see next link) is antisemitic.

kill count in this genocide is in the six digits

Hmm, let's try the Middle East Monitor, a virulently antisemitic "news" source that has blamed Israel for October 7 and justified it (even praised it!) (see the links towards the end of my post):

And only 11,000 missing. By my count, that puts it in five digits. You may not realize this, but five and six are different.

Also:

genocide is in the six digits

I wanted to highlight this a little more because it's a common pattern among 'pro-Palestinians' that claims of genocide are supported only by death tolls, which do not make a genocide. 'Genocide' is a very specific term that refers to a very specific thing, and a large death toll does not mean a genocide, and a small one does not mean a lack of a genocide. Not even proportion of the population killed means genocide!

Here's a hypothetical example.

Nauru has around 11,000 people. Australia, because they view Nauruans as subhuman, decide to exterminate them. The plan is two-part: first, an attempted land-based conquest, and if that fails, dropping five atomic bombs to attempt to wipe them out by force.

Nauruans are initially surprised but eventually manage to defeat the invading Australians, leading to 5 Australian deaths and the deaths of 1,500 Nauruans. (13.64 percent)

Australia then dispatches the atomic bombs. Unfortunately, the man flying the plane becomes lost and, by mistake, drops all five of them on Singapore instead, causing 1 million deaths out of a population of 6 million (16.67 percent)

In this case, the death toll for Singapore is higher in both absolute terms and proportionally. However, it would not be considered a genocide, whereas Nauru's might be. Intent matters in genocide.

In fact this is common. The Moirori Genocide killed under 1600 people and was indisputably a genocide.

Many human-made events, despite having larger death tolls than the Moirori genocide, are not considered genocides. This is a long list, but includes, among others, the Halifax Explosion (1700+), the MV Dona Paz accident (unknown but over 1600), and many ships in World War Two.

Jeez I wonder why Israelis are hated so much!

Er, because they're primarily a group y'all have killed for the past 2,000 years and counting (assuming you're Western) and that kinda leaves a mark in the culture?

More evidence: Despite asking your lot multiple times, I have yet to see one (1) analysis this is deadlier than your standard urban warfare and also anything even approximating the level of coverage Palestine gets for any of the other places that are just as bad if not worse?

nazis

Okay, this claim is kind of interesting, but due to overuse, the term 'nazi' has grown flexible, with different meanings to different people. To ensure we're on the same page about what Nazism is, before we keep going, I want a detailed and full explanation of the following:

A definition of Nazism

How Israeli policies as they stand are in any way, shape, or form, Nazi.

If referring to Zionism, a definition of Zionism and an explanation of how Zionism (not current Israeli policies--Zionism is broader than that) are Nazism, or a subtype thereof.

I expect this to take up several paragraphs and be well-cited (I don't care about the format; even links are fine) but I may waive one or both of those requirements if I find your work sufficiently good. Once you have explained those concepts, I will be able to discuss this allegation further, but until then I find myself at an impasse.

However, considering your demeanor, tone, and actions, I find it more likely that you will grasp the nature of my reply much better if it was as in Arkell v. Pressdram:

We acknowledge your [message] of [18/19 January] referring to [Israel]. We note that [your] attitude to [my response] will be governed by the nature of [my] reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform [me] what [your] attitude to [my response] would be, were he to learn that the nature of [my] reply is as follows: fuck off [or admit you're wrong! Or provide a proper and thorough definition of Nazism etc and an adequate rebuttal! I'd love that! No one's done that before!].

Or more succintly still:

Provide definitions and a rebuttal; admit you're wrong; or fuck off.

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It's so astonishing, American leftists would get asked what Israelis are like and they'd point to American Jews as though it can even be called an approximation

Random westoid whacko:

The avg Israeli on the street:

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I'm convinced that some people exist entirely to be jokes, this person is one of them, comedic opposite-of-relief NPC

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It would also have to mean that the Palestinian Arabs weren't indigenous before the aliyahs, and only started being indigenous then. In fact it would even mean that the Jews were the indigenous ones, until there was a swap

Pretty shitty definition overall

Some notes on the name Palestine

TL;DR: Palestine is a colonialist name from a group trying to deny an indigenous group's indigenousness as part of a genocidal campaign. It may have acquired other meanings, but the etymology is still linked tightly to that, and it still carries that past with it. Anyone who considers themselves pro-indigenous should not use the term.

Let's rewind. The word Palestine is related to "Philistine"; indeed, it comes from them. So who were they?

In short, a bunch of Greeks who created a syncretic culture in what is now, roughly, Gaza. They mixed with the native people, called Canaanites. (We don't know what they called themselves - Philistine itself derives from a Biblical term.)

They vanished pretty fast, and then, a while later, the Romans came.

The indigenous population rebelled too much, so they embarked on a campaign of genocide. They killed people, of course. But they also raped enough women that Judaism is matrilineal. They sold people as slaves, barred them from their holy city and capital, Jerusalem (which they renamed). They destroyed the Jewish holy temple, the Second Temple (there is now a mosque on top of it).

And then they tried to deny that the indigenous population was, in fact, indigenous. They renamed the region Syria Palestina. Why? Because Philistines weren't around anymore. They could pretend there weren't any indigenous people to displace.

Over time, that word, Palestina, moved. It moved to Arabic, where it became Filastin. It moved to English, where it became Palestine.

But the indigenous name for the region (except, arguably, for Gaza, give or take) has never been Palestine.

We don't know what the Neanderthals, the first group there, called it.

But we know what many of the indigenous people call it. Eretz Yisrael. Or, in English, the Land of Israel.

("But wait!" you say. "You just said that in Arabic it was Filastin. Palestinians are native and speak Arabic!"

But they didn't speak Arabic back then. Arabic came with the Arab conquerers (who Palestinians aren't super related to, FYI). Arabs spread vastly during the Islamic conquests, but before that, they were primarily a desert people, whose homeland corresponded to roughly Saudi Arabia, although it extended to places like Syria and Oman. There are majority-Arab countries and places today that range from Morocco to Mauritania, Sudan to Iraq, Egypt to (parts of) Iran. Arabs are not indigenous to any of those places, and neither is Arabic.)

You may not support the Roman genocide. I hope you don't. But you are still using a term European colonialists used to erase indigenous identity as they genocided them, and it still carries that baggage.

(If you refuse to call the region Israel, Canaan is also a fine term - although it may get you some weird looks.)

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Don't forget never acknowledging responses, they just slink away after people respond to them

@puppypalice what do you think a Zionist is, though? Because this implies that there's some kind of Zionist organization or political party that people can join.

As far as I can tell, there are two different definitions people are using for "Zionist."

People who don't think Israel should be violently destroyed.

A specifically Jewish movement of people who love genocide in general, or genocide of Palestinians in particular.

But there's not an organization for either of those things.

You seem to be picturing the second definition? But like... what are they joining? The IDF?

I know they're not joining some evangelical megachurch that wants Israel to exist so that the End Times can come or whatever.

Because nobody is protesting those. They rarely even get mentioned.

I know they're not joining Hamas/PIJ/PFLP, despite the fact that Sinwar said he would fight until the last child in Gaza; despite Haniyeh demanding "the blood of Gaza's children, women, and elderly;" despite the fact that Gazans loathe Hamas for starting the war, routinely torturing and executing dissenters, and committing countless atrocities against them over the past 15 months.

Because at best, nobody gives a shit about Hamas. And at worst, they buy the propaganda that Hamas is "the Palestinian resistance." (Instead of the We Want To Live movement and the Gaza's Liberators movement.)

Are future historians going to be saying this about anyone who hates and opposes Hamas? Because that seems to be what usually gets Gazan activists, and Jews, denounced as Zionists.

If so, that now includes not only most of Gaza:

But also, the rest of Palestine:

That's from one of the co-organizers of the We Want To Live movement, who has twice been jailed and tortured by Hamas for organizing marches in Gaza.

He's only 24, and he's repeatedly put his life on the line for Gaza's freedom. And there is not one person in the pro-Palestine movement that will platform him, or anyone like him. Even Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib -- another Gazan activist, one who hates Israel significantly more than Howidy -- gets pre-emptively blocked.

Anyway, the context for the whole "they'll call them Zionists" thing was that the Hind Rajab Foundation filed 12 complaints against IDF soldiers.

Which does make it seem like that must be what everyone's going to be called Nazis for joining?

The Hind Rajab Foundation is chaired by a former Hezbollah member: Dyab Abou Jahah, a Belgian man from Lebanon who also:

founded a Holocaust denial group;

has repeatedly called for the violent destruction of Israel;

says Europe makes "the cult of the Holocaust and Jew-worshiping its alternative religion";

questioned the existence of the Nazi gas chambers;

and calls gay men “AIDS spreading faggots”...

...just to hit the highlights.

The article notes that there were no troops around when Hind Rajab was killed. Which is news to me, because I only learned about it on social media.

So basically, a guy who is at best a Nazi apologist started a group named after someone who wasn't killed by the IDF, but who he wants us to think was. And now that group is running "a campaign... to identify Israeli soldiers who have published videos to social media in which they commit, claim to have committed, or appear to endorse committing potential war crimes, and to file complaints against the soldiers on that basis."

@stoptheantisemitism blocked me after I said you can't just report people you assume must have committed a war crime. Because surely you can, since "they've posted themselves committing atrocities all over social media" or whatever.

But in fact, the article they posted literally says that the campaign includes people "who appear to endorse committing potential war crimes."

And no matter how despicable or disgusting that is, it's also absolutely fucking silly to be like, "Hey!! Sri Lanka!! SRI LANKA!! This guy who tweeted about wanting to burn Gaza City to the ground is in your country right now!!! Arrest him!!!!!!"

The fuck you want Sri Lanka to do about that??? He didn't commit a crime on their soil, and he's not a citizen of their country.

So I'm assuming you're talking about the IDF. But what's the point of saying that future historians will imply people were Nazis for joining the IDF even if they don't hate Palestinians? People are already calling them that today.

More to the point, it's not like there's a massive movement to move to Israel and get permission to join its military.

Is the point just to make sure we damn everyone in the IDF, whether they personally hate Palestinians or not, whether they were conscripted or not, etc?

Is the point just to call them Nazis?

Is the point to minimize the Nazis by deemphasizing what they did?

Because it seems important that Hitler not only industrialized mass murder and killed a peak of 500,000 people a month, but also:

declared a state of emergency,

seized dictatorial powers,

stripped Jews of their citizenship,

made relationships and sex with them illegal,

pressured white people to boycott all Jewish businesses,

and banned them from leaving the country without turning their property and money over to the Nazis,

none of which Israel has ever done to either the Palestinalsians, or its own Arab citizens.

like, I would assume that nobody is making a conscious attempt to minimize what the Nazis did. But it minimizes what they did either way.

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The biggest blow to the Free Palestine pussies' egos is going to be the knowledge that Israelis have repeatedly proven to be much better at protesting Bibi than any of the American Free Palestine protestors will ever be at protesting Trump.

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Not a single person who celebrates oct7 deserves the oxygen they breathe. They murdered Jews, and Arabs. They murdered right wingers, and left wingers. They murdered Ashkenazis, and Mizrahis. They murdered Israelis, and American tourists, and Thai foreign workers, and so much more. Literally no one was spared. None of you would have been spared.

the body of hostage youssef alzayadni, 53, was found in a tunnel in the gaza strip earlier today. youssef was a father to 19 children, a farmer, a prominent member of his community, a man of peace who helped others reconcile and solve conflicts. he suffered from diabetes and required insulin constantly. his son, hamza, 23, who was also kidnapped and held hostage, is also assumed murdered due to certain forensic evidence/remains that were found alongside his father's body. hamza was married and a father to two children. he loved horse riding and going to the beach. he suffered from migraines, which he treated with 8 pills a day. youssef and hamza were both assumed to be alive until today. two of youssef's other children, bilal (18) and aisha (17), were also kidnapped on 7/10, but were released in the swap deal in late 2023. now they'll never see their father and brother again. former hostage farhan alqadi, who was rescued alive from a tunnel in august, was youssef's childhood friend and neighbor.

youssef and hamza, and bilal and aisha, and farhan, aren't jews. they're bedouin arabs. they weren't the only bedouin who were kidnapped, assaulted, or murdered on 7/10; alongside muslim arabs, christians and christian arabs, foreigners, southeast asian foreign workers, who were all brutalized the same way israeli jews were. survivors of 7/10 have testified that saying that they're not jews, speaking in arabic, begging for mercy, did not make a difference.

may youssef and hamza rest in peace.

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Fucking disgusting. It almost scares me how little these peoples lives mean to me, like if I had to face any of this I'd face it with all of the "self defense" I'm legally allowed to apply and some that I'm not.

The Noah Schnapp Situation Going Into S5

With Stranger Things Season 5 coming out this year, we are unfortunately going to see a revival of the debacle around Noah, even though by then it will be an almost 2 year old subject. So, I thought I would get ahead of that with some of my thoughts based on what I've seen these last few weeks and more broadly over the last 6 or more months I've been on this scene.

Spoiler Alert: This is going to be a long one. It'll probably be my new pinned post.

Why Still Talk About It?

Frankly? Because it's still going on. Keep in mind, Liam Payne died in October 2024 (just three months ago), right around Noah's birthday, and THIS is how Twitter responded to that.

And just in case anyone thinks I had to dig back a whole 3 months to find Noah-hate-content on Twitter, here was just random things I grabbed from the last week:

Which brings me to the next point.

Why Do You Even Care?

"Noah doesn't know you." "He's not your pookie."

I know that. The funny thing is, from what little I know about Noah, I'm pretty sure if he DID know me beyond the ONE DM conversation we've had, he'd probably tell me to chill. Dude is very non-confrontational and nice. So, why do it?

Because I think the online movement in favor of Palestinian self-determination has been hijacked by teenagers and performative leftists who care more about looking good for their peers than practicing what they preach.

Because (as you can see above and in screenshots like the one below), people who claim to hold my liberal/progressive/left-leaning values have used this as an opportunity to be openly homophobic and antisemitic towards a then-19-year old who had JUST come out of the closet.

Proponents of the hate campaign against Noah have said that they are just "holding him accountable" or "criticizing him" in the hopes he "learns something."

Look up. Point to me which image is accountability. Point to me the valid criticisms.

There are none. There is just flagrant homophobia. And then there are posts like this one, coming from the same crowd:

This behavior is wrong on its face.

It is violent. It is bullying (which doesn't seem like strong enough of a word) and it's bigoted.

Wanna see more? Look up @noah_schnapp on Twitter/X. See what they've done to his account.

Inevitably, some of the people participating in this will see this blog post. If you've made it this far, this is for you:

This behavior discredits your activism. It makes you look performative and fake to say in one breath that you are a "Leftist" who cares about Palestinian lives as well as the lives of minority groups worldwide, and then to turn around and talk like this about a Jewish person and a gay KID. Because he WAS a kid when this started. Furthermore, it makes it clear to those of us who actually hold the beliefs we claim, that you are vapid enough to use Palestinian suffering for your own personal vendettas. That the APPEARANCE of goodness is more important than goodness itself. And that you will shuck solidarity with minority groups the MOMENT one of them steps out of the lines you have drawn around them.

Not to mention...

It's Based Mostly On Lies

As a reminder, this is what Noah Schnapp actually said shortly after October 7, 2023:

Read that again.

"...we will hope and pray for safety, justice, liberation, and self-determination in Palestine." That was part of the very first thing he ever said about the issue.

And then this happened:

This was the image he was crucified for.

Stickers that weren't even his. That he wasn't holding up or making. He was in a cafe, someone else came up to him with them, and he was videoed with that person.

That's it. That's all. All those tweets you saw above? The fake stories made up about him like this one?

All of that was supposedly "accountability."

The harassment of his family. Murder threats. Rape threats. All for stickers that weren't even his.

There's even a paid Stranger Things author on this very site, styling herself as a Byler shipper, who has contributed to the lies that have further added to the hate campaign I've described.

As an aside, Noah wasn't the only one in that video. The influencers that actually posted the video and HAD THE STICKERS?

Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

And just to be clear - I don't think they should get hate. I think non-Jewish online Leftists appropriated a term from Jewish culture, redefined it, and are weaponizing it to beat down Jews all over the internet—which is par for the course for this charcuterie board of performative activism.

Yet the point stands. Noah was specifically targeted; and the homophobia that IMMEDIATELY came from the Left suggests to me that it was his sexuality and cultural/religious identity that motivated the attacks.

Again, I'll say, this is wrong.

Noah Has Since Responded

It hasn't stopped the bullying.

Didn't stop him from withdrawing from spaces he loved. From needing therapy from what we've learned from his now-deleted second TikTok.

And that really says something, does it? He cleared up his point. He tried to clarify and even apologize.

They didn't accept it. Not because it wasn't good enough. Not because it was "too late." Because this was the point. They wanted to keep doing it. They get sick joy from it.

Which is why...

I'm Not Shutting Up About This

This post doesn't even nearly cover the whole situation. The Byler fans who try to replace Noah's image in fan art and fan fiction. Who fan cast themselves as Will instead of Noah. The stalking and doxxing on Twitter. People reporting to GIANT hate accounts his location and when he's alone, PRAYING for him to be hurt.

I wish I could cover it all.

We have to stand up to this. On tumblr, on TikTok, on Threads, Twitter/X—everywhere we see it.

For our gay and Jewish siblings who see how Noah was attacked and feel less safe in their online spaces as a result, we have to speak up and say something.

And yeah. We have to say something for Noah, too.

The person who replied to me like this:

Him?

He did it because he needed to see a show of love from his fans. Doesn't mean he's perfect. Doesn't mean he won't mess up or do something in the future.

And no. Standing up for Noah, or for Jewish people, or other gay folks does not make you a genocide supporter or apologist. It doesn't mean you want any innocent people harmed. Don't give them the power to talk down to you like that. It's bullshit. You know it, and I know it.

All standing up to this vile shit is is an acknowledgement that Noah is a living, breathing person, as some of these people tend to forget.

And he didn't deserve this.

Any of it.

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[dumb character]: "Hmm, what would [smart character] do?"

[dumb character]: "Oh I know! He'd use his head!"

proceeds to ram their head into a fucking door or something

laughtrack

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You're kidding, right

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Ok so I noticed a really funny exchange that constantly happens with antisemites that goes something like "Ashkenazi Jews are white Aryan Europeans!!!!!!"

-"No they aren't, even the genetics very clearly show that they're at least half middle eastern (and the other half originates in classical era Rome)"

"Yes but that's from the patrilineal side and Judaism is only through the mother's side so according to their religion they're not Jewish!!!" Like, what the hell is this kind of reasoning? I've had that exact exchange more than once, do people know what matrilineality is? It's not even an old Jewish tradition it iirc originates in Roman times, do they think halachaic matrilineality erases 50% of the amino acids in your body or some shit? If your dad belongs to some matrilineal African culture and has you with a European woman are you just European? Would those smooth brainers go "Hmm what do you mean African? You're just European so I think these curly dark hair and brown skin and wide nose are just your run of the mill Scandinavian features"?

Man I don't know, if anything what makes this scary is how sensibility just completely goes out the window with these entities I'm legally obligated to count as people. They're trying so damn hard, "The joos are [whatever's considered bad these days] is literally just an axiom to them, and they will sooner change everything else around it than not consider it to be true for one second

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Feeling like giving this post a round 2, so here we go!

Go back to Poland

Everybody's favorite phrase that's definitely okay to say about other groups too! I've been thinking about it a whole bunch again, and I felt like saying:

Americans and Canadians, are you willing to "go back"? No, not as a "gotcha", genuinely, one of your favorite mouth-diarrheas to spout about Israel is comparing it to your own colonial pasts. Are YOU willing to up and leave back to Europe? I know your demographics, you can definitely afford it, you have no excuse to stay in north America where you're a foreigner.

Do you even know what you've built your lives on top of?

Hey Californians, are you familiar with the 100 or so languages that were spoken in the lands you live in today? Yep, all critically endangered or extinct, California used to be a hub of diversity, containing dozens of distinct language families, which means this diversity has persisted for thousands to tens of thousands of years before being absolutely decimated just so that you could all speak English there, how bout that eh?

Hey Oregonians, Washingtonians, and British Columbians, are you familiar with the rich textile culture of the peoples that used to live in your lands? They had a whole dog breed that grew wool they expertly crafted fabrics out of, are you familiar with them at all?

Hey Southwesterners, are you familiar with the Pueblos and their masonry traditions? Anything beyond their famous cliff dwellings? Do you even know how significant such house building practices are when thinking about the technological advancement of cultures, and where they would've gotten if their civilization wasn't destroyed?

Hey Midwesterners, are you familiar with the old copper complex of your area? The artisanal metal castings made by the natives? Some of the best use of metals in the entire western hemisphere!

Hey anyone between the Midwest and the gulf of Mexico, are you familiar with the Mississippian culture? Their cities? The most complex settlements north of of the Rio Grande! An absolutely marvelous civilization, comparable to many of the most notable archeological complexes we love studying in the old world!

Hey eastern Canadians, do you know about the Iroquois confederacy? You'd think something called that in the very same land you live in would be a notable aspect of its history! What about it?

Hey Americans and Canadians on the east coast, do you know anything about the people who used to live there? As the first victims of colonization in the United states and Canada, some of them died off so early we barely know anything about them! Wild!

Do any of you fucking know how much was destroyed for your countries to exist, countries whose existences you perpetuate by living there and barely trying to do anything meaningful relating to the natives? All of 'em wild n' free horse savages you imagine when you think about the natives? Not what was there originally, not for all of it anyway. That was the post apocalyptic world of an entire continent decimated by disease brought on by European. Ripe and ready for the taking I guess!

It's so obvious how little of a shit you all actually give about the natives when we take a look at what you actually do for them, 99.9% of you would rather spout hate about Columbus as your token contribution to the native communities. What about donating money? They surely could use some of it to fund their insanely poor education funds! What about petitioning to turn some reservations into states? Surely the Navajo-Hopi one at least is big enough to qualify, Right? How about learning an indigenous language and contributing to its literary and educational body of texts? I know that's not an out-of-left-field suggestion, because people tell us that we should've assimilated to the Palestinians when coming here! It's the least you could do.

20% of Israel's population is Palestinian Arab, and that's not including the west bank and Gaza. Not to mention other groups either. And those Israeli Arabs speak their native language freely, and get an education in it, and they have their own schools in Arabic (not segregated! If an Arab wants to enroll their child in a Jewish Hebrew speaking school, they can). Their culture is intact and lively, meanwhile your native cultures are a pathetic shadow of their former selves, a shriveled up remnant of once great civilizations, and none of it is their fault! Makes anyone with even a shred of knowledge about anthropology curl over and cry. And that's not to mention that you came there as colonizers with nothing to do with the land, for the opportunities to steal and exploit, meanwhile Israeli Jews have a well established and proven genetic, linguistic, and cultural basis for being there, they came there as fucking genocide refugees (not just the holocaust), and Palestinian culture has actually influenced Israeli culture substantially! Can you say the same for your state?

And the thing is, I don't even hold most of it against you! To put it quite bluntly - I am better than you for it! I know better than to tell people who have lived somewhere for generations and built a life for themselves to just up and fuck off to somewhere else. I don't want you to vacate north America, but if you want us to do the same, you're delusional and this should precisely demonstrate why. You could, however, put even the slightest bit of effort into raising up their cultures and languages and giving them autonomy and self determination, would freeing up at least one state be possible?

Anyway, if you think Israel is at all comparable to your countries you're a pathetic excuse for an academic or activist, and if you think Israel is worse in any capacity, and therefore needs to do things that you otherwise don't, you've frankly got to be clinically insane.

"Israeli Jews are foreigners, not indigenous peoples"

Like, not really but, can we just talk about stupid it is when reading between the lines?

Because when Israel gets labeled as colonialist almost no one actually thinks specifically about the west bank settlements or something, it's about Zionism as a whole, aka the "let Jews move here" movement, as implied by throwing in the word white for seemingly no reason.

And here's the kicker, you do realize you picked quite possibly the dumbest strip of land on the entire planet to say that about, right? It's not some pristine isolated culture like the damn Greenlandics or aboriginal Australians, it's one of the single most diverse places in the world prior to the age of European exploration. Everyone has been here, Persians Greeks Assyrians Egyptians Romans Arabs Ottomans yada yada sure, but going way beyond actual imperialism being the famous holy land™ it has attracted inhabitants and visitors from all quarters of the known world, and it shows in the ancestry of Palestinians themselves and the demographic makeup of the cities. To have the audacity to say certain groups of people "don't belong here" (let alone the fucking JEWS) has got to be one of the dumbest things one can even dream of doing when concerning themselves with actual society-collapsing colonialism.