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Addressing the OBX drama and the speculations:

Was JJ’s Death planned?

No, Rudy asked to leave the show. It wasn’t something the writers planned. He didn’t want to renew, the writers were rightfully upset and then decided to kill JJ off.

Did the writers/producers create an uncomfortable set?

No, they didn’t. This post is not true. The brothers were never inappropriate.

Was Madison a bully on set?

I’ve seen a post going around of someone saying Madison was a bully, controlling the set, and bluntly treating Rudy and crew members like crap. That is NOT true. 

Was Rudy’s decision sudden?

Yes and No. No as in he let the Pates know ahead of time he didn’t want to continue (some time during the strike, so they had time to change what was already written). Yes, as in they were shocked by it.

Was there on set drama between Rudy and the Pates?

Yes, there was many disagreements/personal problems during s4. Yes, Elaine was involved and so was Lilah Pate. They are civil now.

Why did every ship but Jiara get a still?

The jiara still does exist but idk why it was not released. My source doesn’t know either and I don’t want to spread something not true. Rudy and Madison took pictures just like everybody else did.

Why did the cast chemistry seem off in part 2?

They shot episodes 1-5 first, THEN 10, then 6-9. The cast didn’t know rudy asked to leave until they received the script for episode 10. You can tell there was a drastic change between JJ and Kiara in part 2 because after the cast found out, Madison was upset with Rudy and his decision, so she didn’t put in as much effort into the scenes with him. She was upset because she knew that would mean the near end of obx and her character… in a way.

Was there alternate endings?

Yes, but that was only because they wanted to see if rudy would change his mind. There was even scenes where a funeral was shot (obviously they didn’t air it so I’m assuming they’re saving it for s5). From March-June of 2024, they spent the entire time doing reshoots of some scenes. That is why some things don’t make sense.

Did Rudy and Madison talk on set?

Yes, but not closely or anything. They’re not friends, they just did the scenes they had to do and that was it. All those people saying they’re hiding their friendship from the cameras or whatever… that is not true sorry. The pates can’t force them to act like best friends as long as they were doing their scenes.

Why did Jiara have “less” than everybody else?

It’s true that Jiara scenes were toned down. Part of it was Rudy asking for it. Madison didn’t care as much. Another part was just Rudy and Madison not doing more than what the script asked.

Was Elaine uncomfortable with Jiara scenes?

Yes, and she has been since s2. It got worse during s3 and obviously s4. That was part of the conflict.

What is the Rudy and Madison Drama?

Obviously what happened between them is private. It wasn’t the fans. The fans were more so the catalyst to something that had been brewing. 

It is true that the girlfriends are involved and that they weren’t happy. Madison hurt Rudy, but not by being a bully. It was emotionally. The feeling was then returned on his end and it just got worse from there. It didn’t help when the girlfriends and fans were involved. It is true that it’s not a coincidence this happened when they both got involved with relationships. Most of you have speculated correctly, that is all I will say. I think you know by now what I’m trying to say.

Also when I say fans, I don’t mean the “shipping.” They never cared about that. What I do mean is that all this drama happened when Jiara fans were at their peak. Them wanting to see those characters together put Rudy and Madison in a problematic situation because they knew they couldn’t avoid each other on screen. Instead they just did so off screen.

Should the Writers/ Directors/ Producers stepped in?

Yes, but what I need you guys to understand is that these writers were basically father figures to those actors. They watched them grow their careers, supported them, made them who they are now. It’s hard when you spent so much time with each other and became a genuine family. Even their conflict with Elaine was hard because Jonas knew her family, his wife treated her like a daughter, and lilah treated her like a sister. They had every right to be bitter because from their POV, it’s basically like “hey I trusted you to bring my project to life and now I’m being forced to go in a direction I never wanted to go in.”

What’s going on behind the scenes right now?

A mess. They knew it would be bad but infact it is worse and they know that.

Am I reliable?

Honestly I don’t care if you believe me or not. You didn’t before and I got attacked (literal death threats in my inbox). I’m just a messenger. I’ve given you info before and clearly I didn’t lie about it. It’s up to you to decide.

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About Rudy x Madison DRAMA!

Okay, it's 2024, and the truth needs to be told: Rudy Pankow is totally UNPROFESSIONAL!

I honestly don't know what the HELL happened between him, Madison and the girlfriends, but the truth is that ever since he and Madison had this friendship breakup, his behavior has become pathetic when it comes to Outer Banks.

Rudy seems to be staying on the show because he's being forced to play JJ, he's distanced himself a lot from the rest of the cast, not to mention his lack of desire to act close to Madison. I don't know how the producers of the show and Netflix haven't already had a little talk with him about this pathetic behavior.

He RUINS the vibe behind the scenes of Outer Banks.

And just when everyone was starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel regarding his ability to work with Madison without involving their personal lives, Rudy goes there and posts (again) praising his girlfriend as if the fans of the show had some obligation to idolize Elaine too.

Honey, YOU ARE THE ACTOR. YOU ARE THE FAMOUS ONE, not your unemployed girlfriend who keeps following you everywhere.

I DO NOT AGREE with personal attacks on Elaine on her and Rudy's social media, but absolutely NOBODY was doing that now, and once again he had to make his statements in public, turning the release of the new season of Outer Banks into being about people who don't flatter his girlfriend.

When will he understand that no one is obligated to like his girlfriend? No one was attacking her, and he keeps freaking out on his stories as a way of “defending” Elaine.

The funny thing is that Chase and Madelyn are an ex-couple in real life, and you don't see Chase's current girlfriend “suffering” attacks, or Chase having a freak out on his Instagram stories to defend her.

Do you want to know why? It's because Chase's girlfriend is NOT involved in his work, she RESPECTS his work, KNOWS HER place, and on top of that, she is a person loved by EVERYONE in the cast, unlike Elaine who distanced herself from the cast and consequently distanced Rudy.

Just grow up, Rudy. She's your girlfriend, not your Siamese twin. You weren't born attached to her. You don't share your internal organs with Elaine. It's a shame to see someone with so much talent sink like this. And remember yourself: stop playing the victim card, it’s exausting.

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I always knew Elaine was…..something, but with all the bad I hear and what you’ve said about her being on bad terms with multiple people, I wonder how she truly treats Rudy? Do you know/heard anything about their relationship? Cause for all we know Rudy could be a p.o.s too (I don’t think that’s the case but you never know) I don’t think I ever have heard truly anything about them too as a couple other than they travel a lot and seem to really love each other

I mean he chose to leave the show because of her so clearly it’s not a healthy relationship.

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Hii! Just another rant about obx. I wanna share my predictions about season 5 and what I think they’re gonna do

Chase Stokes (John B) mentioned that season 5 will be their best one, which it could be but I think for a lot of viewers just the fact that JJ won’t be there at all might ruin the season if yk what I mean.

And now to my predictions

1. I think season 5 will be Kiara’s season, with the way season 4 ended it’s obvious she’s gonna lash out and go through a lot. She’s gonna need to deal with grief and her revenge era might be a bit brutal 😊

Also maybe she will be somehow related to the treasure? Or just connected slightly. Like season 1 we had John B, season 2 it was Pope. Season 3 now- idk I guess Sarah but Kie also had a bigger role, like when that dude kidnapped her and then she got sent off to that camp but that’s it, then her plot line was about Jiara, and season 4 was obv JJ.

And since we’re talking about JJ, y’all.. ik it’s hard but he’s not coming back 😭 obx is not supernatural, a wish won’t bring him back to life. Like I don’t think JJ will crawl out of sand.

I generally love the idea of Kie finally having her main character moments and just making her more important to the story.

2. We will get Riara. And I definitely don’t mean that in a romantic way because that’s not happening! Madison (the actress of Kie) hates Riara 😭 but I think we will see them as duo and just get more of those tension scenes that we got so far. I feel like that might be a way the writers will try to “replace” Jiara. Jiara was a huge ad for the show and lately so has been Riara.

I feel like almost eveyone loves the tension between those two and the writers know that. Also Rafe breaking up with Sofia- yea they’re definitely building up to some sort of storyline with Kiara and Rafe. The amount of people obsessed with Riara is insane and obv they have to give us something so..

Riara s5 is pretty much guaranteed.

3. I wanna talk about Sarah and John B- obviously a huge plot line will be their child. I don’t know if the child will be born at the end or during season 5. How I see it, I’m leaning more toward the end but we’ll see.

There’s not much else that can really happen with them. John b will also be in a revenge era since his best friend was killed and Sarah will definitely get closer with Rafe, that hug they shared was so cute and needed but otherwise I really don’t know! I doubt they’ll kill them off. I was thinking that the way John B narrates obx maybe that’s him in the future telling his child about their story? That would make sense honestly.

4. Pope and Cleo umm so. I honestly am not as interested in their story line and it’s interesting because I have no idea what they will do with them.

I think Pope might be kind of more cold in season 5- as we know he shot a person right in the head, and he was so scared about that. Also he lost JJ- his best friend and they want to send him to the military. Dude is not doing the best! 💀

Cleo.. I don’t know she’s such a complicated character, she went through a lot in her life but I doubt they’ll really expand her character in season 5.

5. Rafe!!!! His character development this season was insane. In my opinion he should stick with the pogues but I wouldn’t be surprised if he somehow betrayed them. That’s Rafe- he’s not a good person but I wouldn’t say he’s necessarily bad..

Like I already said in obx 5 there will be Rafe and Kie duo, and more of Sarah and Rafe for sure. But maybe he will connect with the other pogues too.

I just don’t want the development to be thrown away, I hope they make him stick with the pogues.

6. And now finally the ending/possible deaths.

The characters who in my opinions are most in danger are: Kiara and Rafe

Especially Kiara.. here’s the thing, since JJ is dead and she already went through the whole group 😭 what can her ending actually be? Like ok she could just end up alone with her friends, her family but in my opinion her death would make sense. She would be with JJ and I think in general it is a good end for her.

Rafe like i mentioned is a complicated character, it would be so easy for the writers to just kill him off at the end. But I would be honestly so mad!!! Like no JJ and no Rafe 😭. Yeah I don’t want them to do that but at the same time, I think there’s definitely a possibility.

Sarah and John B definitely safe in my opinion.

Cleo and Pope- now I don’t know, I think they’re safe. Maybe Cleo.. but still I don’t think so.

Groff- definitely done for! ❤️ I hope Kiara tortures him to death 🥰

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NO ‘CAUSE WE ARE ALSO MISSING ANOTHER THING HERE THAT MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL

In what universe is RAFE the one in charge of JJ’s burial? AND JOHN B AND KIARA ARE OK WITH LEAVING HIS BODY IN MOROCCO? Not bury him in the Outer Banks…next to his mother or at Poguelandia?

WHAT EVEN HAPPENED TO THIS SHOW’S WRITING?

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i had to sit through that orange cheeto bitch getting elected AGAIN and the duffers couldn’t give me more than a CRUMB?

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Okay so I just finished obx season 4 and I need to give my honest opinions

So let me just start off, the ending? Awful I’m so disappointed. JJ’s death was such a stupid decision, I get that it was probably more Rudy’s choice than the writers because we know Rudy wanted to leave but.. I’m genuinely so disappointed.

JJ was a beloved character, there are so many people that watched obx FOR JJ. FOR JIARA. Obx in general was peoples comfort show, JJ was a comfort character. He brought the comedy but also angst and Jiara??? EVEYONE knows Jiara is the most loved couple, PEOPLE watch this show because of them…

They should not have killed him at all but specially not in this way. In season 3 we see JJ start finally opening up, he tells Kiara he loves her and we get some development that just made sense yk, but then in season 4 they throw all of it away.. JJ finds out his dad isn’t his biological father which don’t get me wrong- I don’t think that was a bad plot but they made JJ do all this stupid shit and then they have his father stab him to death?? Like what

JJ is such a big character and that’s all you can do??? We had no development, his death felt so forced and didn’t give him any justice.

I also wanna get back to Jiara, like I said they are THE couple of obx, but we literally got almost nothing of them.. it’s so ridiculous. Not a single kiss in part 2.. nothing, we got some cute monologues but that’s all and that is far from enough.

I’m just so disappointed. This was not the ending JJ or Jiara deserved. I also don’t wanna say anything bad about Rudy- love him but if it really was his decision (it probably was, I just don’t know for 100%) then that’s really sad. The drama behind scenes should NOT affect the show.

Obx was literally supposed to have 6 seasons- that was the original plan. 3 seasons of the gold and 3 of whatever this is now. I think why they changed it to 5 is because of Rudy leaving..

And yes I’d love to think JJ is coming back but we saw him get buried and the directors unfollowed Rudy.. as heartbreaking as it is he’s probably not coming back. This is the end of JJ’s story.

When season 4 part 1 came out I honestly thought it was amazing, better than season 3 but they really ruined it with the ending. That’s how I’m gonna end it.

When it comes to season 5, I think it’s going to be Kiara’s season and I think we might get more scenes of Rafe and Kiara. Obviously Kie will want revenge, she might kind of go into this idgaf mode and just break, maybe they’ll even kill her of in the finale? Like girlie was with the whole group, her and JJ were supposed to be endgame. I honestly have no idea what they can do with her now other than that..

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Y’all I’m writing a book and I’m trying to give a last name to my character, his name is Henry (middle name Lucas).

Currently I’ve thought of Henry Brooks but idk if it’s really THE name. He’s a really important character, he’s a bit closed off because of what happened in his life but a golden retriever at heart. He is clever, sarcastic but can be a bit paranoid.

HELPPP MEEE I NEED THE PERFECT NAME

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I feel it coming (a relapse)

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Can’t wait

lumax s5 kiss will change my life

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Lucas and Max healing together after the events of Season 4, him never leaving her hospital bedside once.

Both of them suffering from nightmares but being there to comfort each other, the two of them gradually getting closer and closer again until they can’t ignore their feelings anymore and Max allows herself to let him in.

Lucas being there to support Max as she continues to recover from her injuries, there to catch her whenever her legs give out at the skatepark or offering her a piggyback when her aching joints get too much to bear.

Max realising that Lucas isn’t like any other man in her life— he doesn’t let her down, doesn’t hurt her.. he just cares.

I adore them 🥺

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😭😭😭

S4 Lumax + touch

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To be close to youuu 💞✌️

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Heavy on Max and Lucas and Max and Mike ‼️

hugs needed (nay, REQUIRED) in s5

steve and robin

max and lucas

el and max

steve and all the kids

nancy and robin

mike and max

will and jonathan

el and joyce

el and hopper

will and joyce and jonathan

el and lucas

nancy and mike

robin and will

max and literally anyone. like someone please hug her

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“Men donate sperm, so why can’t women just donate their eggs?”

Actually insane😭 Sperm donation is one pump and it’s done, whereas women selling their eggs is an extreme and invasive procedure fucking up their complex reproductive system long term and leaves them with a heightened cancer risk. How the hell is that even comparable. Show me one man who got cancer from jerking it☠️

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you know what Lumax needs? yes, they obviously need to kiss, and kiss passionately. but I really want them to HUG. like a genuine, meaningful hug. she closes her eyes, he rocks her. they’re both sobbing. feeling at home again.