kylekilljoy

[kylekilljoy]

AFK permeantally. This account is attached to a phone that's no longer in use abd sees circumstantial usage. Thanks, but you probably won't hear from this account again.

Thanks again. But I'm not leaving the scene of wss. I actually have an alt. Account that's way more active on my new phone. Until we met again, -KyleHQ*

Am I only KyleHQ in the collective system and otherkin mcty community do you have any idea who kyleHQ is?

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Shelby herself confirmed the safe word and consent were NOT the issue, that she contonued to consent and her only problem is that...biting? Hurts. And complained about hickies, which she calls bruises, but describes hickies.

She literally debunks your own words.

The only person who has any room to talk is Alice and she is being spoken over and drowned out Shubble and Niki.

Niki never dated Wilbur and never confirmed whether o not she consented to the biting or not, and in the past only sung him praises.

Shelby herself consented. Don't spread misinformation

don't follow me if you are a wilbur supporter.

fuck off. just had one of those bitches follow me and. jesus christ I DONT WANT YOU HERE. how clear can i make it that i hate that bastard and never want anything to do with him ever again?!

i support shelby and always fuckin will

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To Shubble support squad,

How do we know that the allegations put to Wilbur are true? she never had the bruise. She is just manipulating us for clout.

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Yeah they're names, there's unrelated people with those names

STOP USING WILBUR AND SHELBYS NAMES AS THEY ARE A SLUR THEY ARE NAMES

THIS IS ALL I HAVE BEEN SEENING

'W!1bur'

'$hubb13'

'$h31by'

'W*lbur'

'Sh*bble'

'Sh*lby'

DUDE ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS TO THE POINT YOUR HAVE TO CENSOR IT

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Disgusting. YOU helped him create a wonderful community? He did it himself, you followed him, and then you say that he doesn’t deserve it. You are a disgusting community for so easily going against someone you have worked with for a long time!

You worked with him for a long time, you SHOULD have known what kind of person he was, or did you only wake up a year later? bravo, just damn bravo

Forgive me, but I can't help but get angry when I see statements like this from people who were closer to Wilbur than any of us.

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I’ve been getting a lot of comments like this lately from my video that I posted in February about Shubble Support. I just need to know if I’m in the wrong here. People keep talking about this “picture evidence” but I have never seen it. I just need to hear thoughts.

[kylekilljoy]

There are too many letters

Hello everyone Today I would like to touch on such a topic as Wilbur's and Shelby's Supports.

Let's start with the base.

Shelby's supports are people who believe that Shelby was abused by Wilbur Soot or William Gold. The reason for this is Shelby's stream, which she launched on 21.2.24. The girl in the first stream gave explicit hints about the person who, according to her, hurt her.

I think you all know the Shelby story itself, because it was told wherever possible, so I think I have no reason to describe everything that was said before me, because I want to tell more about their support than about Shelby and Wilbur, yes, I will touch on our personalities the main characters., but for the purposes of this story. Everything will also depend on my personal experience and the experience of my friends

I have met adequate Shelby support who stood on Shelby's side, but they did not shout at the opposite side, they were adequate, just with their opinions, and I like such people. The opinion of people is important and it is certainly worth respecting, because we are all human beings

Inadequate supports are people who promote violence. Why do I think so? Because as soon as these people see someone who does not agree with them, we meet with an aggressive reaction, and the most harmless thing that can be heard from them is "kys". Such people wish you dead, will call you idiots, and also call you abusers simply for supporting the opposite side.  Such people will not want to listen to you, and even if they are somehow provided with evidence based on the same documents, of which there are a lot on the Internet, they are unlikely to read them.

People speak out against insults and violence, but they themselves wish for death, in your opinion, is this normal? I do not think so.

Such people stand on Shelby's side to the death, but they behave the worst of all, and I even somehow regret that there are people on Shelby's side who see her as an ideal and justify her every act.

Yes, Shelby may have been abused, but you also need to take into account what she said before and after that

Wilbur's supporters are the people who defend him from accusations from the opposite side and from Shelby herself, who called him a "abuser ." It all started with Wilbur's post on 02/28/24

As from the previous side, I will highlight both adequate and not so many people and moments.

Wilbur's supports are considered the most calm side, which can respect anyone's choice, and will listen to anyone (I say this not because I idealize this side, but because I see a lot of examples on the Internet and chat rooms that prove it). Wilbur's supporters know what Wilbur really is, they know that he is not an ideal person, with his flaws, fears and thoughts, they understand that he is a man who can make mistakes and will do so throughout his life, just like other people.

It upsets me that people idealized him, and then got upset that everything they had come up with turned out to be untrue.

And now I'll tell you some minor flaws, as well as the facts of Wilbur's Support.

I've seen people who sexualized Wilbur, that is, they tweeted posts about Wilbur in a sexual nature, they hurt themselves (I literally saw a photo where a girl carved Wilbur's name on her hip)

I think many of you have seen Wilbur's inadequate calipers, for which I am very sorry for him, but now I will say this from the side of the Russian fandom and Wilbur's support:

I've seen people who have been emailing Wilbur every day in the hope that he'll answer them. I saw people doing questionable edits with Wilbur, although they are his supports, I saw people who threw porn and guro to the opposite side, I saw a lot of bad things on our part, both on the English and Russian platforms.

It also upsets me that many people think that since the Russian fandom protects Wilbur, it is justified by the fact that violence is the norm in Russia (I don't understand, do you follow the news at all?)

The Russian fandom supports Wilbur not because violence is the norm, but because we see what Wilbur is like and see strange moments in Shelby's story

Now to the facts about Wilbur's Support:

-Most of the supports accept the opinion of the opposite side, if you do not impose it. If you are Shelby's support, then we will only be happy for you, but please do not impose your side on us.

- Basically, Wilbur's supports are adequate people, and many respond to you in the language of facts, but there are also those individuals who will not babble with you, and they will respond to your aggression with their aggression, saying that they are tired of not being heard

- If you meet Wilbur's support anywhere and decide to tell them that he is an abuser, then do not be surprised that the support will make fun of you, troll and make fun of you.

- Wilbur (probably like Shelby, I do not know) has adults who have reached adulthood, or even older, so many will speak to you adequately and competently (I saw a girl who was 12 years old, but she spoke much more competently than many adults ...)

Remember that by provoking aggression, you can meet it in response. If you want to talk to someone about this topic, speak normally and with restraint. This may be a discussion, but by no means an argument.

Please prove your point with facts, not words like "well, she's a victim, that's why I'm on her side" or "well, he's a abuser, that's why he's bad."

Instead of spreading hate online, it's better to go and support Shelby or Wilbur.

[kylekilljoy]

Looking into it

Id like to point out a MAJOR detail

Wilbur in the past, from around 2021 to as recent as a MONTH BEFORE SHELBY DROPPED HER ALLEGATIONS

Wilbur has mentioned and talked about an abusive ex, one who as far as I know he has NOT named. But from what I understand his story has been consistent even though it's been 3 years since originally talked about it.

He mentioned a lot of things this ex has done, and apparently used a clip of her screaming at him in one of his songs, possibly from one of the new album songs he has.

Many people think it's Shelby, but honestly from what I understand of the timeline, it could be any one of the trio of girls accusing him.

It could be Alice, who he apparently dated 2019-2021, I unfortunately know nothing about her. But given he was talking about the ex in 2021, it's possible her. They've been exes by this point. And the stuff he mentioned, was of two adults, not teenagers or freshly turned adults.

It's probably not Niki, who's relationship status I keep hearing gets changed, but last I checked he heavily implies they never dated. Flirted, yes, date? No. Least likely, but with how much info I have on her inconsistent and chances source to source. Idk.

Shelby is also a heavily assumed suspect, especially given the allegations she made, dropped a month after the album, and while she was allegedly pedophile accusations thrown her way. Additionally it would seem that some of the stuff she accused him off, he concidentally happened to also claim his ex did to him. She makes herself out to be the most suspicious, but she dated him, apparently 2021-2022, this fact alone, makes it a little less likely than Alice. But it doesn't mean she's not weaponizing his trauma against him and making false allegations or misleading narratives.

I'm just saying given he's talked about this ex of his and accused HER of also serious things while all of this is running around.

Id like to propose suspicioun be placed properly on all three. One of them (probably not Niki) is lying or has skeletons in her closet.

[kylekilljoy]

As a rule of thumb, don't reblog donation posts or people asking for donations unless they've been vetted and reblogged by Palestinian bloggers. We usually go to lengths to verify this shit because we know scammers have been faking to get people to send them money, using the urgency of our genocide as bait.

It's disgusting this is what we're dealing with, but people are losing money because of some truly evil people out there.

Accounts don't just randomly spring up on tumblr without gofundmes while asking for someone to help them create a campaign. Fuck out of here with that shit.

[kylekilljoy]

Yeah, just ask a fucking black man.

He's still oppressed for things outside of being a man.

Queer men are oppressed for things outside of being a man, but instead yknow. Being gay. Being fruity. Too deep in man sauce. Y'know. As we do.

A trans man, being oppressed. For being a TRANS man. Has nothing to with being a man, and everything to do with fact they aren't the gender they were assigned with at birth. The fact they refuse to be a woman. And society hates that, that they refuse to be in the peg hole, that society already wants to generally cause problems for anyways.

Now try being a black gay trans man. Not something I'm familiar with, im not black, but if the voices from the crowd have anything to say on the matter, and trust me, Ive seen the mentioned crowd say stuff. It's a triple whammy, and most of the oppression doesn't inherently always comes from them being a man, and everything to do with being a black queer person just trying to live their life. But also not really, being a black man is enough for people to take issue it would seem..

Don't hype up queer POC, only to turn around and say issues they talk about, aren't valid. Cause news flash, the L for lesbian may be the first letter, but it doesn't mean the whole community is for women, it's a man friendly space too. Don't get it twisted and ignore queer men, especially POC men just because.

There are trans POC men who very much vouch for transandrophobia, don't fucking silence them.

I could also extend this to many lengths about POC who boost other identities, not just gay and or trans men of color, but that moves past the intentional point being about androphobia.

it's so fascinating to me whenever i see someone deny the concept of transandrophobia on the basis that "you aren't oppressed for being a man" as if someone's manhood doesn't very clearly and intentionally affect a marginalized person's oppression when in conjunction with whatever thing they are being oppressed under. like. do you guys live in some kind of weird bubble where women are the only people that have ever experienced oppression ever or something.

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i mean this in both the angriest and the most loving way possible but metoidioplasty doesn’t get nearly enough love, and i’d personally prefer it if people could like?? treat transmasc bodies and surgeries with respect?? idk it’s very transparent how y’all feel about meta dicks when some of you can’t go too long without using “shrimp dick” or something of that sort as an insult

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Sorry but we find this so depressing honestly. Trans folks who straight up say they can't talk about their experience without being harassed, and then say "oh but I promise I don't believe in transandrophobia!!! Have some common sense!! (Please dont harass me)"

Folks are literally having to beg to be listened to without fear and are having to deny the very oppression that causes them to be fearful in the first place...

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The popularity of 'TME' being synonymous with trans man, at the exact same time that there's a huge push back against transmascs advocating for ourselves and creating our own language, is really something. It really is just the community's dedication to the lie that transmascs suffer less. It's 'You aren't oppressed and aren't allowed to assert you are an equal', and 'you are literally defined by your so-called 'privilege''. It is really difficult to not feel like the community fucking hates you and wants you gone forever.

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whenever a trans man says, in his own space, on his own acct, on his own time, that he's uncomfortable when people say they hate all men around him, transandrophobes always love to harass him and say he's denying women the right to "vent about misogyny" and it's really annoying because saying you hate half the human population and then some is not venting about a specific kind of bigotry, it's just being an asshole. and if a friend of yours says they're uncomfortable then you're a shit friend to deny them that discomfort and instead accuse them of denying you something you could very easily change. stop defending being an asshole under the guise of venting, for fucks sake.

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I didn’t miss that social cue I just thought it was stupid 

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Why couldn’t that Alastor cosplayer that used fucking BLACKFACE just use that grey face paint Homestuck cosplayers use.

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Id like to point out a MAJOR detail

Wilbur in the past, from around 2021 to as recent as a MONTH BEFORE SHELBY DROPPED HER ALLEGATIONS

Wilbur has mentioned and talked about an abusive ex, one who as far as I know he has NOT named. But from what I understand his story has been consistent even though it's been 3 years since originally talked about it.

He mentioned a lot of things this ex has done, and apparently used a clip of her screaming at him in one of his songs, possibly from one of the new album songs he has.

Many people think it's Shelby, but honestly from what I understand of the timeline, it could be any one of the trio of girls accusing him.

It could be Alice, who he apparently dated 2019-2021, I unfortunately know nothing about her. But given he was talking about the ex in 2021, it's possible her. They've been exes by this point. And the stuff he mentioned, was of two adults, not teenagers or freshly turned adults.

It's probably not Niki, who's relationship status I keep hearing gets changed, but last I checked he heavily implies they never dated. Flirted, yes, date? No. Least likely, but with how much info I have on her inconsistent and chances source to source. Idk.

Shelby is also a heavily assumed suspect, especially given the allegations she made, dropped a month after the album, and while she was allegedly pedophile accusations thrown her way. Additionally it would seem that some of the stuff she accused him off, he concidentally happened to also claim his ex did to him. She makes herself out to be the most suspicious, but she dated him, apparently 2021-2022, this fact alone, makes it a little less likely than Alice. But it doesn't mean she's not weaponizing his trauma against him and making false allegations or misleading narratives.

I'm just saying given he's talked about this ex of his and accused HER of also serious things while all of this is running around.

Id like to propose suspicioun be placed properly on all three. One of them (probably not Niki) is lying or has skeletons in her closet.