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went to wikipedia to fact check somethings about a guy from ww2 era history and it had been edited beyond belief to erase this person's connections with nazi germany. the second google result is the holocaust encyclopedia page all about his horrible crimes in the nazi regime. but on wikipeida, his description is vague and mild and barely mentions it. it's so worrying. I hate it. what happens when gen z only reads wikipedia pages and denounces any sources that are "too zionist" like a holocaust museum's encyclopedia? thank g-d for jewish historians, what would we do without them, but i'm so so scared that our history is going to be rewritten because no one will listen to us on our own history.
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knowing Wikipedia, give it a week or so and it'll be erased and edit-locked.
The vast majority of Jews I've seen talking about the events in Amsterdam have called them a pogrom. This includes anti-Zionist Jews.
The vast majority of people saying that it wasn't a pogrom (and the Jews Zionists had it coming and anyone who says otherwise is a filthy Jew Zionist) have been non-Jews and many of them seem to have a history of antisemitism.
Which of those two groups do you expect me to trust regarding the proper use of a term specifically referring to antisemitic violence.
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For anyone curious about the footage of the Amsterdam pogrom, where jews and Israelis were attending a soccer game with an Israeli football team playing and got attacked, but are scared to watch the footage, below the cut is a description of the the violence.
They ambushed and chased israelis and jews around the streets.
Multiple perpetrators were punching and pushing israelis and jews to the ground.
They were kicking Israelis and jews who were already on the ground.
They were beating Israelis and jews on the head
One person, unsure if they were an Israeli jew, diaspora jew or arab Israeli, was thrown into a river or canal, and was forced to stay there unless they repented for Israel's actions. They may have been also stripped of their clothes, may not have it was hard to tell.
One person, again unsure of specifics if they were diaspora jew, Israeli jew or arab Israeli, was hit by a car and was thrown over top of the car due to being hit.
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"A major attack on an ethnic group was justified because they were asking for it, even if the attack was evidently pre-planned for weeks before and included running over and stabbing random bypassers from that ethnic group who couldn't possibly be identified as the same people who were asking for it weeks after it was already planned."
are these people even hearing the words that come out of their own mouths.
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American leftist right now: oh no! Our counrty is full of people who want our rights taken away from us. We're under threat of attack. We only have each other
Jews: first time?
Jews: .....wait didn't YOU GUYS do the exact same thing to us?
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The wikipedia vandalism worries me so much. Even if it stops, it'll take ages to fix it all and the damage will already have been done. And goyim are just gonna start conspiracy theorizing about how the big bad scary Jews are "censoring" wikipedia and they're gonna do everything they can to discredit actual accurate information in favor of their antisemitic bullshit.
I've basically been hoarding as much Jewish knowledge as I can. I'm filling hard drives and bookshelves with every scrap I can find before goyim can scrub it from the internet and ban it from bookstores and libraries (whether legally or through pressure and intimidation). I don't know what else to do. They're trying to erase us from history so that it'll be easier to kill us and pretend it never happened. I refuse to let them get away with it.
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I've never seen Prince of Egypt in English and now I came across this and it's the perfect description of leftist antisemites
@aviad1b you're welcome
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listen to me. listen.
what we need is more people within the queer community who AREN'T like that. if you throw away that part of yourself it means there's one less supportive person in the queer space now.
if this is what you need in order to cope then fine, but otherwise I think I'm speaking for many Israeli queers when I say: we really need to have openly queer people who don't want us dead.
i get that this is about your own coping and i hate to kinda make it about myself? but i just hope that someone sees this and decides to be both visibly queer and jewish supportive. it's what keeps me going
In light of the ILGA's bullshit (for those who don't know, they suspended an Israeli org from membership for the crime of existing), I'm just divorcing myself entirely from the queer community. Saw the news and am in the process of gathering up all my pride stuff to throw in the trash.
In all my life, I have never been ashamed of being queer, but in the past year I have absolutely become not just ashamed but disgusted by it. Queerness at this point is synonymous with terrorism and violent bigotry and I want nothing to do with it anymore.
Fuck ILGA, fuck queer goyim, fuck the left, fuck them all. I'm done.
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מאכזב אך לא מפתיע 🫠
ואגב, עברתי על הרשימה של ארגונים החברים לפי מדינה, וכמובן שארגונים רוסיים וסינים חברים.
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I'm in a particularly bad mood today, could you tell?
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ונחנא הרכשא םייח הזיאב טרס וא והשמ ניא בצמ הזש יתימא
ינא אל הנימאמ
so a guy wearing a baseball cap with a Star of David on it got kicked out of a Muslim-owned cafe in Oakland, which is funny for two reasons:
1) they described this hat as "violent"
2) the cafe was called the Jerusalem Coffee House (kicking a Jew out of a place called Al-Quds Cafe would be equally awful but less on-the-nose ironic)
I don't like what's coming
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Translation:
The Association for LGBTQ Equality in Israel ("The Aguda") has been suspended from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA)
ILGA decided to suspend the Aguda's membership untill a further notice.
The decision was made after the Aguda suggested hosting a global conference in Tel Aviv - then it received a response stating it has been decided to suspend the Aguda's membership.
In the bottom picture: Russian and Chinese organizations that are still members.
So just fuck us all I guess huh
מאכזב אך לא מפתיע 🫠
ואגב, עברתי על הרשימה של ארגונים החברים לפי מדינה, וכמובן שארגונים רוסיים וסינים חברים.
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I'm a little late but this sums it up perfectly.
goyim: ummmmm “ethnically jewish”????? being jewish is LITERALLY just a religion omg it’s disgustingly racist for u to say that being jewish has anything to do with BLOOD or DNA judaism is a RELIGION and NOTHING MORE you ZIONAZI.
also goyim: CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS WAS JEWISH!!!!! THIS EXTREMELY UNRELIABLE MYTH THAT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED MANY TIMES SAYS HE HAD JEWISH DNA!!!!!! THE ULTIMATE COLONIZER WAS A JEW!!!!!!!!
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"לחיי האינטיפאדה". הם כנראה התכוונו "לחיי האינטיפאדה". 🤦🏽♀️
הסיבה היחידה שחשבתי על זה היא כי ניסיתי לתרגם בגוגל את הפוסט כדי לראות איך זה נשמע
So we all saw the MIT sukkah and how bad that was.
Are you ready for NYU’s?
Because not only is it bad, but the persons behind it are either Jews with no connection whatsoever to their culture and can’t be bothered to do a basic fact check or it’s goyim who can’t be bothered to do a basic fact check.
That’s right. It says “l’chaim intifada” on their post. Yes, the structure is made out of wood. Good job for not using an event tent as the base like MIT. But you've built it under a tree, a no-no, and just said “To life intifada” on your “solidarity” sukkah poster.
That’s as bad as the backwards Hebrew.
It’s a nonsense phrase and makes no sense.
So what else is in the post?
Points 1 through 3 are standard for these organizations. Others that have more experience regarding the legalities of these asks have broken down why it won't happen for 1 and 2.
Point 3 is just xenophobic and discriminatory, and shows the hypocrisy of these orgs. I hate whataboutisms, but this same academic boycott is not being held for other countries that have committed or are committing comparable or worse actions. I have not seen calls to boycott Russian, Chinese, or Iranian academics and condemn research alliances or remote campuses.
Why is it only Israel?
(we know why)
Points 4 and 5 are what we expect as well. But here's the thing. Point 4? So much research and innovation comes through military contracts and funding. Medical entomology alone is reliant on massive funding from the military and was actually established by the US Military as well. The break throughs in treatments for vectored diseases typically come from their projects.
This is going to piss people off. But cutting funding projects that are associated with our military industrial complex is actually really bad for innovation, research, and scientific advancement.
"They can get the funds elsewhere".
No the fuck they cannot. Tell me you know nothing about research in academia without telling me.
But sure, cut funding to things associated with the MI-complex. I'm sure the DHS and DOD projects that are working on medical innovations will definitely help "Free Palestine".
Point 5 states it is "No Normalization", but the text reads more that they want to undo the Find Out portion of the Fuck Around they've been doing all year. As well as redefine antisemitism the way they want so that their dog whistles can be allowed and then it gets to the normalization thing. Which is just a way of saying they don't want peace. I'm not surprised as normalization processes lead to peace, and these groups don't want that. We've seen them eschew peace repeatedly and endorse violence.
But they'll tell you they're a peace movement.
Point 6 is just odd to include. 1 through 5 are standard, but 6 gets into the academic pay scale and structure and that just feels tacked on. It's trying to put a rider to ban abortion at the back end of the agricultural bill. It's trying to say "while I have you attention, also this."
I'll be the first one to say the academic pay structure is fucked and needs to be overhauled (The Cali University system has had multiple protests because Professors can't afford to even live in the cities they teach in). But putting pay structure issues onto this is just "everything relates to Gaza!" nonsense. We've seen countless occurrences of these activists trying to link any and every movement and concern to I/P throughout the year and it's just ridiculous.
Also note the text "expanding further into the city and across the globe" makes it seem like they view the university they are attending as a colonizer as well. If such is the case, and they're against colonization as vehemently as they attest to, then why are they still attending as their tuition is funding colonization? Yes, this is a "why don't you leave" argument, but they have the option to drop out or transfer. It's not leaving the USA, it's leaving or changing schools (and that's much more doable).
Point 7 isn't really a point. It's the same thing we've seen from anti-Israel groups across college campuses in the USA a long time. The problem is that they deny Zionism/Zionist has become a major dog whistle that has a history of being one ever since the Soviet era. Is every instance of anti-Zionism antisemitism? Of course not. But because major antisemitism groups, militias, and governments have used it for decades as a cover it is often viewed as such.
There's no denying that.
The problem is that you have college kids who are earnest in their beliefs that they don't see how they're being manipulated to use said dog whistles. It's especially worse when it comes to anti-Zionist Jews because they will say/endorse absolutely horrendous antisemitic rhetoric while justifying it through "Don't worry, I'm a Jew".
Unfortunately the sukkah they've built and the "L'chaim Intifada" brings in to question how Jewish they are. Even secular Jews would know that L'chaim means "To Life" by simply existing within our culture. So they're either extremely detached and didn't fact check, they're religious Jews who don't know enough Hebrew and didn't fact check, or they're goyim who are cosplaying as Jews and didn't fact check.
Initially I was leaning towards the detached as being behind this as I personally know several detached Jews who are using their ethnicity to defend antisemitism in NYC and by these groups. And because this is NYU it's more than likely that detached Leftist Jews are behind this with support from goyim than simply goyim alone. Which shows how little is know of our culture in general and means they really shouldn't be relied upon as arbiters of what is offensive to Jews and what isn't.
However, there is nothing Jewish about what they post. They even have photos of them in the sukkah and there's not a single kippah in sight. It's all keffiyehs. You'd think that if they wanted to show solidarity there'd be some variation in garb. You'd think that if they wanted to show that Jewish religious traditions and culture are welcoming that you'd have some visibly Jewish persons in your sukkah sitting side by side with keffiyeh wearing activists in this "solidarity sukkah"
But there's not.
Now this isn't to say I know who is behind this group, who the members are, or what the agenda is.
But this organization has only existed since November 2023, regularly cross posts with NYU SJP, and endorsed/justified 10/7 as well as the anniversary events celebrating it.
Come to your own conclusions as you will, but I know what I think.
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מייחל !הדאפיטניא
אבל ברצינות ותרשו לי לסטות מהקטע של הכתיבה ההפוכה לרגע, "לחיים אינטיפאדה" זה נטו אנשים שלקחו "ביטוי יהודי" מקרי לחלוטין שהם שמעו מתישהו והדביקו אותו למילה אינטיפאדה.
מה לעזאזל
So we all saw the MIT sukkah and how bad that was.
Are you ready for NYU’s?
Because not only is it bad, but the persons behind it are either Jews with no connection whatsoever to their culture and can’t be bothered to do a basic fact check or it’s goyim who can’t be bothered to do a basic fact check.
That’s right. It says “l’chaim intifada” on their post. Yes, the structure is made out of wood. Good job for not using an event tent as the base like MIT. But you've built it under a tree, a no-no, and just said “To life intifada” on your “solidarity” sukkah poster.
That’s as bad as the backwards Hebrew.
It’s a nonsense phrase and makes no sense.
So what else is in the post?
Points 1 through 3 are standard for these organizations. Others that have more experience regarding the legalities of these asks have broken down why it won't happen for 1 and 2.
Point 3 is just xenophobic and discriminatory, and shows the hypocrisy of these orgs. I hate whataboutisms, but this same academic boycott is not being held for other countries that have committed or are committing comparable or worse actions. I have not seen calls to boycott Russian, Chinese, or Iranian academics and condemn research alliances or remote campuses.
Why is it only Israel?
(we know why)
Points 4 and 5 are what we expect as well. But here's the thing. Point 4? So much research and innovation comes through military contracts and funding. Medical entomology alone is reliant on massive funding from the military and was actually established by the US Military as well. The break throughs in treatments for vectored diseases typically come from their projects.
This is going to piss people off. But cutting funding projects that are associated with our military industrial complex is actually really bad for innovation, research, and scientific advancement.
"They can get the funds elsewhere".
No the fuck they cannot. Tell me you know nothing about research in academia without telling me.
But sure, cut funding to things associated with the MI-complex. I'm sure the DHS and DOD projects that are working on medical innovations will definitely help "Free Palestine".
Point 5 states it is "No Normalization", but the text reads more that they want to undo the Find Out portion of the Fuck Around they've been doing all year. As well as redefine antisemitism the way they want so that their dog whistles can be allowed and then it gets to the normalization thing. Which is just a way of saying they don't want peace. I'm not surprised as normalization processes lead to peace, and these groups don't want that. We've seen them eschew peace repeatedly and endorse violence.
But they'll tell you they're a peace movement.
Point 6 is just odd to include. 1 through 5 are standard, but 6 gets into the academic pay scale and structure and that just feels tacked on. It's trying to put a rider to ban abortion at the back end of the agricultural bill. It's trying to say "while I have you attention, also this."
I'll be the first one to say the academic pay structure is fucked and needs to be overhauled (The Cali University system has had multiple protests because Professors can't afford to even live in the cities they teach in). But putting pay structure issues onto this is just "everything relates to Gaza!" nonsense. We've seen countless occurrences of these activists trying to link any and every movement and concern to I/P throughout the year and it's just ridiculous.
Also note the text "expanding further into the city and across the globe" makes it seem like they view the university they are attending as a colonizer as well. If such is the case, and they're against colonization as vehemently as they attest to, then why are they still attending as their tuition is funding colonization? Yes, this is a "why don't you leave" argument, but they have the option to drop out or transfer. It's not leaving the USA, it's leaving or changing schools (and that's much more doable).
Point 7 isn't really a point. It's the same thing we've seen from anti-Israel groups across college campuses in the USA a long time. The problem is that they deny Zionism/Zionist has become a major dog whistle that has a history of being one ever since the Soviet era. Is every instance of anti-Zionism antisemitism? Of course not. But because major antisemitism groups, militias, and governments have used it for decades as a cover it is often viewed as such.
There's no denying that.
The problem is that you have college kids who are earnest in their beliefs that they don't see how they're being manipulated to use said dog whistles. It's especially worse when it comes to anti-Zionist Jews because they will say/endorse absolutely horrendous antisemitic rhetoric while justifying it through "Don't worry, I'm a Jew".
Unfortunately the sukkah they've built and the "L'chaim Intifada" brings in to question how Jewish they are. Even secular Jews would know that L'chaim means "To Life" by simply existing within our culture. So they're either extremely detached and didn't fact check, they're religious Jews who don't know enough Hebrew and didn't fact check, or they're goyim who are cosplaying as Jews and didn't fact check.
Initially I was leaning towards the detached as being behind this as I personally know several detached Jews who are using their ethnicity to defend antisemitism in NYC and by these groups. And because this is NYU it's more than likely that detached Leftist Jews are behind this with support from goyim than simply goyim alone. Which shows how little is know of our culture in general and means they really shouldn't be relied upon as arbiters of what is offensive to Jews and what isn't.
However, there is nothing Jewish about what they post. They even have photos of them in the sukkah and there's not a single kippah in sight. It's all keffiyehs. You'd think that if they wanted to show solidarity there'd be some variation in garb. You'd think that if they wanted to show that Jewish religious traditions and culture are welcoming that you'd have some visibly Jewish persons in your sukkah sitting side by side with keffiyeh wearing activists in this "solidarity sukkah"
But there's not.
Now this isn't to say I know who is behind this group, who the members are, or what the agenda is.
But this organization has only existed since November 2023, regularly cross posts with NYU SJP, and endorsed/justified 10/7 as well as the anniversary events celebrating it.
Come to your own conclusions as you will, but I know what I think.
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הז ןשי רבכ לבא יתלקתנ הזב בוש יתייהו תבייח
בוכה דמעות
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After carefully considering JVP’s suggestions, allow me to present the
New and improved plan-
Fight antisemitism, sign the ADL initiatives.
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