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Here's a not well known but very interesting lore piece:

Seele's scythe is actually from Sampo!

I've seen many talk about Seele's power level and speculate how she can do such things as cutting through bullets, but i have yet to see people mention this fact.

There are many things that don't add up about Seele's powers and it brings many questions; such as can people recieve powers from paths even tho they don't know of their existence? It is made very clear how Belobog didn't know any aeon's existence other than Qlipoth and the underworld cares even less about them.

Now, most people assume the answer to that path question is no (after all nothing so far implies such a thing) and Seele's powers become an enigma. They exist because they simply do, or purely because of her HI3 counterpart.

However i believe her powers DO have an explanation. After all she uses all her powers with her scythe, the very one she got from Sampo.

Knowing Sampo, i wonder if his target for that scythe was Seele all along, and him trying to sell it was just a way of getting her attention. Since selling something like this at a low price seems kind of like a waste.

All those Seele combat lines saying "illusions of the past" and "i'll free you from your chains" seem much more suspicious now huh...

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HOLY. THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE??? I CAN'T BELIEVE I COMPLETELY MISSED THE TRASH CAN PART OF THE LORE.

I knew about "the moment of betrayal" one but i didn't make the connection with Tatalov and IT LINES UP PERFECTLY??

ALSO the fact that "the moment of betrayal" has this written below:

JUST LIKE HOW THE TRASH CAN SAYS "I WAS THE ONE WHO RAISED YOU."

I FORGOT ALL ABOUT GARBOSKI TOO OMG.

Garboski being sealed also lines up with all the "sealed evil" implications with the die and how Ilmarinen broke and reforged the first Sampo's due to it being "too evil" WAIT MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON SAMPO(GARBOSKI) THINKS TATALOV(ILMARINEN?) BETRAYED HIM?? MAYBE HE WAS CONSCIOUS THE WHOLE TIME JUST LIKE GARBOSKI AND THIS WAS HIS "MENTAL TORMENT WITHOUT ANY HOPE OF ESCAPE" HE TALKED ABOUT.

The neurons in my brain are connecting and i have SO MANY THEORIES RN. THANK YOU FOR BLESSING ME WITH THIS POST.

The thing that's so off putting about Sampo is that he's willing to go really far to make others happy, even at the cost of becoming a punching bag. But at the same time, he's been warning us about himself purposely, masked fools and the dangers of becoming too selfish when it comes to elation.

It's obvious he wouldnt harm ordinary people in a serious way but at the same time, we don't know if he's actual hiding evil intentions.

Remember that sampo has dead snake imagery in his design, and usually, snake imagery isn't used on moral characters, it's used on evil, morally grey or manipulative characters.

It's telling you not to trust people who hide things easily behind a disguise but at the same time, Sampo has a "line he won't cross".

He's so paradoxical that it's actually hard to tell what his motive is. I feel like he might have split personalities because of his mask's influence or just him as a very odd and mysterious character.

I went though the trashcan lore (I feel stupid) BC in his event, after you sell items it gives you these random texts and one of them has "Diagonese's Utopia" achievement that you get from searching belebogian trashcans.

I posted this on twitter and my theory revolved around the fact that Sampo's mentality may not be the same as a normal human's.

I always felt that his odd behaviour of acting like a "fool" was genuis. Because the best way to fool someone is to make them believe that YOU ARE the fool. They won't doubt you because in their eyes you're less intelligent or less complex than them.

But when I dug deeper, I realised that Sampo actually ENJOYS being hated. This is where my search through the Belebog trashcans apply.

(some of these are out of order sorry 😔)

I initially thought Sampo was Tatalov, the Garbage King because of Sparkle's portrayal of him in the dream bubble. And as you can see in the above images where there's a story of a trashcan being stabbed by someone they raised (Tatalov/Garbage King), you can link it back to the fact that Sampo MAY have betrayed someone he once loved. "The moment of betrayal" also closely aligns with this!!

"Wind of change" "snake", these elements are all mentioned in the above story of Tatalov stabbing someone--> sampo's wind is element, he has snake imagery!! Should be straight enough to say HE IS TATALOV RIGHT?

Now listen closely, in the DREAM BUBBLE, Shentana (aka Natasha) talked about how Tatalov was once a great ruler who cared about equality and justice (sampo behaviour) but was blinded by "the thing beyond the sky" (stelleron). => Now it's making a reference to cocolia rather than SAMPO. Which DOES NOT ALIGN WITH SAMPO BEING TATALOV/GARBAGE KING and hence the "backstabbing " story gets muddled and confusing.

My theory was that Sampo killed the person that made him (Seppo Illmarinen) according to the Kalevala story, after he realised that no one truly LOVED him for who he is, but rather only his ability to bring wealth and fortune. Hence, he felt vengeful, and decided to kill Illmarinen as a revenge because of how others saw him as an object (maybe including Illmarinen too). But in that story, it's mentioned Tatalov said "you will collapse beside me" to the dying trashcan (Seppo).

That's when I went back and looked at "Garboski" (Koski) from Sparkle's dream bubble. Garboski mentions that Tatalov betrayed them, and sealed them for 10,000 years. Garboski also mentions that he will reward the people who found them with WEALTH (sampo's function in Kalevala) and then he decided to eventually give anyone who found them a painless death. You can clearly see over time that Garboski's mentality went lose. I tried to link Garboski's story of being sealed for 10k years to Tatalov's betrayal but it said 15 years since the dying trashcan hadn't seen their face. That's when everything got far too confusing for me to comprehend and link together but the only thing I was able to TAKE from these stories is that they are both about BETRAYAL.

The consumable above depicts a colorless rose. You can only see it's reds in the reflection on the dagger. Which led me to think-> Sampo's eidolon "the deeper the love the stronger the hate" might refer to the fact that he despises being loved by others because he had lost trust a long time ago from the events that happened to him, how he was betrayed by the people he thought loved him but turned out to be just to use him for their convenience and selfish desires.

Remember that red roses represent passionate love and that Firefly mentions Sampo looks like he'd been training to use daggers all his life. So the symbolism of that consumable might be that Sampo trusts people's hatred more than their love because when you hate something, the hatred is (mostly) sincere. Why would you pretend to hate something you love? Sampo ENJOYS this sincerity.

He hates love because you can always hide things behind it under selfish pretense. Why else would that consumable reflect a red rose 🌹 ONLY on the dagger and not the rest of it? Because as soon as Sampo was betrayed/betrayed someone, it became clear to him/them that their true emotions towards him are HATRED not love. And SAMPO LIKES THAT!! HE LIKES BEING THE FOOL, HE LIKES BEING DESPISED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DECEIVE HIM AND HURT HIM WITH LOVE.

He uses roses to decorate his packages in the event, also his suitcase and he uses roses to attack in HI3.

He hates love because the more someone loves him the further he will doubt them.

And that's pretty MESSES UP! To have a mentality like this means he you must've gone through some messed up crap, just like how he mentions at the end of his event that he had a "Hot-blooded past". If you didn't know, "hot blooded" usually means feeling complex emotions all at once, like anger, love, hatred, doubt, pain.

The description of the consumable sounds so warm in the begging and suddenly shifts to a tense mood? Did you notice that? It's so paradoxical. So hot-blooded. And it says "that person" so speficially!!

I'm still not sure what to believe about sampo's past, but I'm sure that his idea of love is completely messed up. In HI3, as you fight him during his boss battle, there's a bar called "depth of love", which is UHH WHAT THE HECK?? IT TELLS YOUTHE MORE YOU HURT HIM THE MORE HE LOVES YOU.

In his beta lines that were removed Sampo says something along the lines "Sampo gives all the affection yet never receives anything in return *sigh* but I'm used to it anyway 😃👍"

Ummm?? OKK?? IM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE HE IS SANE? HE IS MENTALLY STABLE AND UR TYPYCAL CONMAN? NO WAY IM NOT!!

I hope this theory makes sense. I just need everyone to know this man has some screws lose but I love him anyway!

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One of the funniest pieces of lore in hsr to me is how Sampo scammed someone by recording an audiobook they wanted but changed the ending so that THE ENTIRE CAST FUCKING DIES.

Like. He did NOT need to do that. But he went ahead and did it anyway. And frankly i find that hilarious.

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That's a super fair question to have! I'll try to give the info i gathered up, hopefully they can clear up some of your confusion~

While the Mourning Actors' powers do come from the Elation, i think it's more of a blessing kinda situation rather than an emanator one.

In the offical "Guide to Penacony" booklet it says that each member has a mask that belongs only to them. It also says that these masks are bestowed by Aha and as long as they possess this mask they can draw powers from their path. This is honestly such a lore drop so i wish they'd put it in, y'know, THE ACTUAL GAME 😭 I'll put the link at the end for anyone who wants to take a look at it because that booklet contains a lot of lore crumbs. BUT it is also long so i'll just put the relavant picture here:

This info also supports the theory that Sampo might be an emanator since he can use a lot of powers without his mask.

But back to the point, i think it might be possible that Aha blessed the masks after they stole them, all of them tailor made for each fool. What's strange about that description is, surely the ENTIRETY of an organization as big as the Masked Fools can't have all of their members' masks be from this ship? Heck how many masks can even possibly be on that ship? What about new members? Are they consistently stealing new masks? Is there like a special day that they all gather and do a robbery? "Ahh it's 1st of April! Time to steal some new masks from those crybabies again!"

While that'd be pretty funny it could also be possible that the description only refers to certain masks or since SU is a reenactment of past events, maybe this refers to masks from a certain time?

Another interesting thing is, the text says "with a maniacal smile" yet Sparkle's mask does not have one. So just from that we can assume that this description doesn't apply to everyone.

Writing all this i feel like i only made it even more confusing- So i'll just end it here. The booklet link for anyone who wants to read it:

https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/guidetopenacony

Edit: Fixed the link!

I was looking into the Mourning Actors and I just realized (ie read this before and forgot lol) that all of the Masked Fools masks come from them. Mourning Actors have "Aeonic powers," and we know that the masks give the MF some sort of powers/abilities. But does that mean the MA are all Emanators? Or were only the masks given these powers? If this has all been answered, I'd appreciate if someone could point me in the direction to find it!

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I love me a goofy Sampo but i also like really REALLY want to see him being serious. Like. I want to see him use his powers. I want him to win in a fight. I want him to drop the act and actually show how dangerous he can be. I think it would be really COOL

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GUYS DROP EVERYTHING SAMPO EVENT DAY 7 IS HERE!! Cannot wait to talk about this so let's get into it:

SPOILERS FOR DAY 7!!

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Can't tell if this is because of him being so mysterious all the time or me overanalysing but SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE?? Hmmmmm do you mean the 4th wall maybe?? HMMM???

Of course this could just be simple joke as well. But the way Sampo acts always makes me question his lines... That or i might be crazy-

Now this is our last item

I've tried to translate the blue words around it hoping it might contain something but it seems to just spell out the name of the item, The Manifest Life of Eternally Homing.

As for the two words on the lower left that are sadly being blocked out by the sold out sign, they spell out: Big data

Which makes sense since the description of the item says to "apply the latest big data algorithms to gain insights into your past and present lives"

But for the binary codes in the back, i have no idea if they mean anything or not. I tried using a site to translate it but couldn't get an answer. If anyone manages to find anything i would love to know!

For the interaction here i find it very interesting. One who doesn't know anything about their past and one we don't know anything about their past. And they both have an invalid rating... All the rating and emantor theories aside what Sampo says here is also quite intriguing. If you think about it he is very contradictory himself so this might also be his way of saying no matter how he acts the person beneath it is the same? Hmmm...

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NO WAY A POSITIVE RESPONSE TO SAMPO?? IMPOSSIBLE.

Jokes aside you betcha i chose the nice one and here is what he says next if you haven't; in which case why would you to that to dear old Sampo :(

Have no idea what he says to the other option tho so if you do feel free to write it in the comments!

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Maybe this is the exact reason he does his scams as well, for the funny tales?

Hey hey hey Sampo what do you mean by hot-blooded past? SAMPO? HEY?? NO IT IS NOT POINTLESS TO TALK ABOUT COME BACK HERE-

SAMPOOOOOOO

GUYS. HE SANG THE KALEVALA POEM. THE LINES ARE THE EXACT SAME. IT IS CANON. I HOPED FOR THESE DAYS. I AM GOING INSANE.

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That event was SOMETHING. Now i am really curious about how much of that poem is canon to our story. This opens up the path to SO many possibilities and theories. One question that i wonder the most is who is our Ilmarinen?..

I can't wait to read all the crazy theories after this. Heck i might even write my own as well (once my exam week has passed) This event will feed us for the rest of the year. BUT I ALSO ALREADY MISS HIM :(

To finish it off here is a picture i took before he disappered (To those who have not played day 7 yet beware because he VANISHES after this talk so if you wanna take a picture don't forget to take one before he doing day 7!)

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Sampo event day 6 is here let's gooo

SPOILERS FOR DAY 6!!

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This line sounds...kinda sweet actually?? One of the things that stick out to me about Sampo is even tho he is a masked fool, the group who is fixated on elation, he understands that universe is not just full of elation but sorrow too. Maybe that's why he wants to emante *wink wink (look at me being so subtle) elation to others.

Then again, this is the guy who keeps scamming people... I really wonder how that side of him ties to everything else. Why is this man so complicated-

Here we get more Tavern lore yesss

What he says here makes sense, since elation has close ties with change. In Glimpses Into The Beyond Fu Xuan even mentions how sometimes Aha takes human form to catalyze this change. After all elation enjoys chaos and chaos cannot happen without change.

It also seems like Sampo believes that everyone would want some excitement in their lives and therefore everyone would want some elation.

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Now this one is VERY interesting.

This actually reminds me of the 4th wall break. If he truly is aware that all of this is a game then he must also know that there are main and side characters. I believe he perfectly understands that he is in fact a side character. But the "similar to real life" part might refer to how others are not aware of the 4th wall and selfishly believe themselves to be the main character.

If Sampo is aware of everything then i think this might actually be the reason he is interested in the Trailblazer. Beacuse he knows they are actually the main character. But that's just a thought. The important part is whether or not the 4th wall thing is unique to Sampo. I know masked fools are all about this act and performance, but maybe Sampo has a deeper understanding in all this.

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This event is giving SO MUCH MORE than i had expected and i LOVE it. Sadly tomorrow is the last day but i believe the hardest lore drop will be on that day too. (Mostly 'cause of the leaks but yeah)

Guys just imagine if the last item is literally named "Sampo" and we get the Kalevala poem and lore drop there IMAGINE

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Okay so i just played day 5 on Sampo event, you guys NEED to see this:

SPOILERS FOR DAY 5!! (duh)

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WHAT DO YOU MEAN IF YOU'RE TRAPPED IN A MENTAL TORMENT WITHOUT HOPE OF ESCAPE???? SAMPO???

Also the fact that he says to be self-depricating to be open-minded. Like the way he always does. MAKING OTHERS LAUGH AT THE COST OF HIMSELF. I'M CRYING

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I'm guessing that the kind of person he talks about here is Sparkle. She is always more focused on making herself elated rather than other people. That's probably the reason he doesn't like her with the way he says to Trailblazer, "Please don't become someone like that."

THIS EVENT IS SO GOOD I SWEAR

(Also i guess this is literally my first post since i'm very new here, but it's Sampo so it's worth it~)