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Y'all. Minsc is talking about GROWN MEN here. Vremyonni refers to Grown Men.
Also, we know why they hid them. It's from the Red Wizards of Thayâwho are slavers. This was a plot point in 3rd Edition.
minsc has this line when you talk to him after gale speaks to mystra where he's like back in my homeland, we hide young wizard boys away so that mystra doesn't snatch them up and. like. man. that really adds some more color to how fucked up gale's whole situation with her was huh
#bg3#gale of waterdeep#Baldurâs gate 3#baldurâs gate 3 spoilers#bg3 spoilers#gale dekarios#Mystra#dnd#d&d
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Lore: Details about Mystra and her Chosen Ones
This is another of those post heavy in lore, because itâs really complicated to understand whatâs going on with Gale without a bit of context (and even in that case sometimes it is confusing) Iâll try to summarise as much as possible, providing info from 2e to 5e, including some novels and interpretations that may be handy when analysing Gale.Â
Disclaimer Game Version: All these analyses were written up to the game version v4.1.104.3536 (Early access). As long as new content is added, and as long as I have free time for that, I will try to keep updating this information. Written in June 2021.
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My Roman empire is the fact that people mix up kink and fetish.
Kink = inherently sexual fantasy or act
Fetish = inherently non-sexual things being utilized in a sexual fashion
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I don't even fucking like Greek mythology but man I wish people would stop making shit up.
Man, it's wild how badly people have misunderstood the Medusa myth. It drives me wild that people keep getting tattoos of her, and it's now synonymous with protecting SA victims despite the fact that TUMBLR MADE THAT SHIT UP.
Long winded Rant/Explanation below:
Basically, in the original mythâMedusa was always a monster. She always had snakes for hair and the power to turn people to stone.
(BTW, Medusa has wings. That's why Pegasus is a winged horse. I feel like not enough people acknowledge thisâ)
She was not cursed nor punishedâshe and the other Gordon sisters just... looked like that because they were the daughters of ocean deities.
She was pregnant at the time of her slaying, hence why Pegasus, her baby, pops out when she is killed.
Nowâher pregnancy is never explained in the original myth. She just is, and this was fine because Medusa overall is actually closely meant to be symbolic of a figure of fertility. That's why her hair being a twisting mess of snakes and her accessories being snake themed is important. Tangled up snakes are a symbol of fertility (if you don't know why, it's cause that's how snakes mate).
Perseus killing her is very symbolic of and mirrors the fact that by successfully killing Medusa, he saved his mother from being SA'd by the king. This is also why her depiction shifts from being a monster to being a beautiful woman. It better emphasized that she is meant to be a symbol of fertilityâand her beauty goes on to become a very intentional narrative.
Medusa being beautiful places her in a more sympathetic light and is meant to display how victimizing women hurts everyone. Medusa is killed in her sleep and Perseus is a coward who can not bring himself to hurt Medusa head on but has to in order to save his mother, and Medusa is a beautiful woman who is harmed by the King's Greed. No one really wins.
Of courseâthe sleeping version wasn't as popular because it makes Perseus seem not like a clever hero. Hence, most people are familiar with the versions where he kills her with the mirrored shield. I prefer the sleeping version because it's from a narrative meant to be more woman-sympathetic.
ANYWAY.
The popular modern notion of Medusa as a symbol of SA that was made up on tumblr acrually combines the misogynistic Roman version and the more woman-sympathetic Greek version.
See, there's actually NO version where Medusa was SA'd.
The closest we have was a version written by a roman man named OvidâOvid hated nothing more than women.
He (and much of the Romans tbh) HATED the notion of an unwed mother. So, in his version, he writes that Medusa was a beautiful woman who had consensual sex with Poseidon and is punished for defiling a temple. This version is meant to make her punishment justified. She's punished by being transformed into a monsterâher hair is made into snakes, and she is no longer allowed to look at men, turning them to stone. A punishment for her promiscuousity (note: Medusa only turns men to stone, btw. This is a whole allegory about ~ dangerous whorish women ~ who bring men down). This is entirely meant to be a reasonable and justified punishmentâand her death is also meant to be a justified and reasonable punishment.
The interpretation of her being SA'd comes from a mish-mash of the Greek and Roman versionsâwhere Medusa is supposed to be a victim in the Greek version but a whore in the Roman one. So you end up with... a story where an SA victim is punished for being SA'd.
And that story, which is VERY modern and VERY recentâlike it popped up during the 80s and 90sâis the one everyone keeps repeating.
I hate it.
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Man, it's wild how badly people have misunderstood the Medusa myth. It drives me wild that people keep getting tattoos of her, and it's now synonymous with protecting SA victims despite the fact that TUMBLR MADE THAT SHIT UP.
Long winded Rant/Explanation below:
Basically, in the original mythâMedusa was always a monster. She always had snakes for hair and the power to turn people to stone.
(BTW, Medusa has wings. That's why Pegasus is a winged horse. I feel like not enough people acknowledge thisâ)
She was not cursed nor punishedâshe and the other Gordon sisters just... looked like that because they were the daughters of ocean deities.
She was pregnant at the time of her slaying, hence why Pegasus, her baby, pops out when she is killed.
Nowâher pregnancy is never explained in the original myth. She just is, and this was fine because Medusa overall is actually closely meant to be symbolic of a figure of fertility. That's why her hair being a twisting mess of snakes and her accessories being snake themed is important. Tangled up snakes are a symbol of fertility (if you don't know why, it's cause that's how snakes mate).
Perseus killing her is very symbolic of and mirrors the fact that by successfully killing Medusa, he saved his mother from being SA'd by the king. This is also why her depiction shifts from being a monster to being a beautiful woman. It better emphasized that she is meant to be a symbol of fertilityâand her beauty goes on to become a very intentional narrative.
Medusa being beautiful places her in a more sympathetic light and is meant to display how victimizing women hurts everyone. Medusa is killed in her sleep and Perseus is a coward who can not bring himself to hurt Medusa head on but has to in order to save his mother, and Medusa is a beautiful woman who is harmed by the King's Greed. No one really wins.
Of courseâthe sleeping version wasn't as popular because it makes Perseus seem not like a clever hero. Hence, most people are familiar with the versions where he kills her with the mirrored shield. I prefer the sleeping version because it's from a narrative meant to be more woman-sympathetic.
ANYWAY.
The popular modern notion of Medusa as a symbol of SA that was made up on tumblr acrually combines the misogynistic Roman version and the more woman-sympathetic Greek version.
See, there's actually NO version where Medusa was SA'd.
The closest we have was a version written by a roman man named OvidâOvid hated nothing more than women.
He (and much of the Romans tbh) HATED the notion of an unwed mother. So, in his version, he writes that Medusa was a beautiful woman who had consensual sex with Poseidon and is punished for defiling a temple. This version is meant to make her punishment justified. She's punished by being transformed into a monsterâher hair is made into snakes, and she is no longer allowed to look at men, turning them to stone. A punishment for her promiscuousity (note: Medusa only turns men to stone, btw. This is a whole allegory about ~ dangerous whorish women ~ who bring men down). This is entirely meant to be a reasonable and justified punishmentâand her death is also meant to be a justified and reasonable punishment.
The interpretation of her being SA'd comes from a mish-mash of the Greek and Roman versionsâwhere Medusa is supposed to be a victim in the Greek version but a whore in the Roman one. So you end up with... a story where an SA victim is punished for being SA'd.
And that story, which is VERY modern and VERY recentâlike it popped up during the 80s and 90sâis the one everyone keeps repeating.
I hate it.
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I gotta talk about this point because everyone brings it up but y'all!
Something EXTREMELY important to the plot of the Forgotten Realms novels that feature Midnight!Mystra is that she explicitly ISN'T like that. She actively looks down on gods for grooming and coercing people. A HUGE plot line in the novels is that she's accused of being too human and loving humans too much and protecting them so much that it causes problems for evil gods. She explicitly sees ALL humans (especially her worshippers) as her children who need to be protected.
Midnight!Mystra was the WORST deity to pull this plotline with because it conflicts with the established canon SO much.
minsc has this line when you talk to him after gale speaks to mystra where he's like back in my homeland, we hide young wizard boys away so that mystra doesn't snatch them up and. like. man. that really adds some more color to how fucked up gale's whole situation with her was huh
#dollie rambles#not to mention mystra is literally killed by an incel for rejecting him (amongst other things)#this whole plotline is just misogynistic in my eyes
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I'm shooting a short film tomorrowâTrying to find a list of the names of recent MMIW, and im getting a lot of articles that will deadass go: "Say her name!!" And then not give a single name.
#dollie rambles#ndn#mmiwawareness#mmiwg2s#mmiw2s#mmiwsisters#mmiw#native american#film#film making#short film#indigenous#indigenous issues
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Midnight is Neutral Good, not Lawful Neutral. You're off on a lot of your points.
Midnight LITERALLY gets in trouble with Ao for helping mortals too much.
minsc has this line when you talk to him after gale speaks to mystra where he's like back in my homeland, we hide young wizard boys away so that mystra doesn't snatch them up and. like. man. that really adds some more color to how fucked up gale's whole situation with her was huh
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This line is bizarre because Minsc is Rashemiâwe already know *why* they hide magic users. Its cause they're an ethnic minority being hunted down and enslaved by the Red Wizards of Thay.
The was literally a plot point in one of the previous Baldur's Gate games. đ
Mystra is literally a savior of the Rashemi people! She gets in *trouble* from the Gods for helping mortals too much.
minsc has this line when you talk to him after gale speaks to mystra where he's like back in my homeland, we hide young wizard boys away so that mystra doesn't snatch them up and. like. man. that really adds some more color to how fucked up gale's whole situation with her was huh
#Baldurâs gate 3#bg3#bg3 spoilers#baldurâs gate 3 spoilers#gale dekarios#bg3 minsc#dollie rambles#BG3 butchers the lore and it annoys me#Mystra is an amazing Goddess#WotC was right to not trust Larian is2g
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I'm number 1 Gale hater good GOD.
That man is so untrustworthy, and it's wild to see ppl go "uwu my poor abused baby."
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yiddish theatre, yiddish newspapers and other yiddish cultural stuff was illegal in israel for years and actively discouraged and attempted to make obsolete, yiddish lectures were disrupted and the israeli state translated the testimonies of holocaust survivors to hebrew rather than keep them in yiddish (the language spoken by most jewish holocaust survivors) but tell me more about how israel and zionism are saving jews and making jewish cultural identity stronger rather than destroying and devaluing jewish diasporic culture đ¤
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I really wish people would be more mindful of the fact that they're repeating and posting SWANA Pogrom Denial under the guise of being pro-Palestine.
It's not stopping me from going to protests and doing my part to try and end the illegal apartheid state of Israel but it's exhausting to everyday be forced to interact with content outright denying the genocides that happened to my people and family. When Egypt genocided us and forced my grandparents to fleeâthey came to the US out of protest of the creation of Israel and as shitty as the US is, I'm deeply thankful that they did.
But many Jewish communities in SWANA had to make a choice between death, permanent imprisonment, giving up their faith and culture, or fleeing to Israel.
Israel is as expansive as it is now as a consequence of the multiple genocides SWANA committed following WW2. That's what allowed them to create the image of a "safe haven" for Jewish people. That's why nearly 40% of Israel is Arab. That's why Israel has staked a claim on so much SWANA culture.
So for these nations that bathed themselves in the blood of their native Jewish populationsâit's so... off-putting? To see them attempt to chastise anyone for supporting Genocide.
Where are your Jews, Egypt? Where are your Jews, Lebanon?
Where are they?
#dollie rambles#vent post#Israel being an evil white supremacist apartheid state doesnt make the pogroms SWANA committed okay#Ive been having to deal with so much SWANA pogrom denial and its rlly getting to me#My discomfort doesnt compare the the sufferings of Palestinians I know#I just needed to vent because its starting to feel like i need to deny the violently antisemitic history of SWANA
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Unfortunately, OP, people are, in fact, much too dumb for that LMAO
Like genuinely, people are absolutely too fucking stupid. They wouldn't understand when or why you would need anti-chafing deodorant and when/why a gel formula would be worse over a powder formulaâand they're not gonna look it up, either. Having worked in both marketing AND customer service, people are far too dumb for this.
you know there actually is a meaningful difference between 'men's' and 'women's' deodorant beyond the selection of scents. 'mens' plays better with pit hair and doesn't pill up in it and 'womens' tends to have a more powdery finish to help prevent chafing. so really the two genders are actually hairy and bald.
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It's so very important to me that when people throw around the terms TME and TMA that they understand that TMA =/= only transfeminine people.
The terms TMA and TME were created to because AGAB doesn't fully cover the lived experiences of the variety of trans, nonbinary, and intersex people. It's explicitly NOT meant to be AMAB = TMA and AFAB = TME. Not everyone AMAB who is nonbinary is transfeminine. Nonbinary people of any AGAB can be targeted by transmisogyny depending on their transitioning experience. Intersex people don't have to be CAMAB to be targeted by transmisogyny.
And that's not even broaching how race and transphobia intersect.
#transmisogyny is such a touchy topic#yes its supposed to be this specific form of oppression against trans women#but transphobia is inherently rooted in racism and ableism its the same oppression now shifted onto a more societally appropriate target#thats why misogynoir and transmisogyny often show up in the same exact ways but with different intended targets#TME/TMA was created ti discuss that disparity and now people just (incorrectly) use it as AGAB 2.0#dollie rambles#trans#transgender
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