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But this is the way they've always treated Brazilian art, and especially Brazilian music. Good to prop them up, good to be sampled and imitated by their artists, good to import innovation and experimentation so they can come up with a thousand more accolades to give their own - but none of that ever means respect or acknowledgement. None of that ever means a seat at the table. Brazilian art goes in and out through the backdoor.
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please i need more cute domestic (but still toxic) evervale in an au where they stayed together I'm begging you
#in all universes I promise to stay with you and destroy your life <3#Even together they would be insane that's the point and I kinda think they deserve it#But that doesn't mean we can't indulge in a little toxic fluffy#“We lived together for some years and I think we most fully understood each other when once I tried to kill him with a kitchen knife”#quote by Joan Didion#Me thinks#they are just like that
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Victor wouldn't realize he had feelings for Eli because what he considers romantic would be Angie, and Eli wouldn't realize because he's, well, Eli
#In this case Eli is the “no one has ever known me like you”#kind of in Vengeful he is the first to admit something about his connection with Victor (free for interpretation)#And it was like he has feelings but in this case it's#“ I can't live without you and I recognize our connection as something important to me and terrible too but at least I can admit that now.”#That half-definition of I don’t know what it means but is it something?#Are they lovers? Worse.
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victor looks like eli's mother - but not in the obvious ways. they don't share hair or eye colour and if somebody put their pictures next to each other, they probably wouldn't be able to notice any similarities. but eli does notice them. in fact eli sees far too many.
both victor and eli's mom have moles in the same places. both of them get dimples when they smile, and both have thin lips. thier brows furrow in the same way, and both of them have long eyelashes. both have high cheekbones, and the shapes of their jaws and noses are almost identical. both have long necks. thier nails have the same shape.
and it drives eliot insane, how victor and his mother can look so similar, only for victor to be able to see the devil inside him just as easily as his father once could.
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just some eli ever rant
what’s so depressing and fucked up about Eli is that his abuser (his father) won
his father spent years abusing an innocent child by calling him a monster, and Eli spent the rest of his life desperately trying to prove he wasn't one. he lived by those words, shaped by them, warped by them his entire life
then finally, after all that, he finds his first real connection, his only ''friend'', and that friend calls him a monster too?? (even before he really did monstruous deeds)
and we're all supposed to be mad he went on a killing spree? nah. good for him jfc, his ''best friend'' just turned into someone he didn't recognize anymore and killed his girlfriend, so why wouldn't he think he is 'special' since his powers cannot hurt anyone but can serve to get rid of those who could potentially harm others (I DONT CONDONE HIS ACTIONS, but i can see from where he's coming from, especially given his religious trauma and abusive childhood) HIS BEST FRIEND JUST HURT HIM LIKE HIS FATHER DID TOO
the more I reread some parts, the more I realize Vic never cared about Eli the way Eli cared about him
to Eli, Vic was his first and only friend, the first person who really mattered but to Vic? Eli was just someone he wanted to beat. a rival he needed to conquer to prove he was better
idk but it makes me so sad and unlike Victor, he had no one by his side. EVER. everyone he cared about died or betrayed him (ahem Vic, bc in reality, who really betrayed who huh my dearest unreliable narrator Victor Vale) like, also, why no one talks about the fact that Serena sexually abused him by forcing him into being intimate with her through her powers?? i won't even go into details that Haverty (or what's the name of that dipshit) did to him bc that part was too triggering for me to even read lol anyway justice for Eli Ever he just wanted to be saved
#eli ever#yes!#everything you said and more#people tend to just not want to analyze Eli as a character more deeply because they only classify him as “bad” and “insane”#And the Serena thing YES! It struck me how no one talks about it being something that is actually quite explicit in the book!#I'm a little suspicious when I say this because Eli is my favorite in the series but it's good to see people liking him as a character#he's just a little guy 😭
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my personal headcanon is that eli is OBSESSED with superhero comics. and not in the "he just follows few series really closely" way.
but in a "he knows the relase date of every comic he ever read or wants to read" way. in a "he knows the biography of every author that has ever worked on superman" way. in a "knows the birthday of every mother of every artist that has ever worked on spiderman" way.
he's totally crazy about it. he hides it from everyone.
#villains duology#eli ever#eli cardale#YES PLEASE#ELI DC FAN#He is such a Superman guy tho#Victor says something really wrong about Superman and gets a three-hour lecture#very autistic of him too (my little hc)#he would hate Zack Synder's version of Superman I just know#sorry also kinda dc fan here#victor vale#ve shwab
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sorry i said gay when you and your buddy had a massive falling out and tried to kill each other. it just kinda looked like that.
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happy villains series publication day to those who celebrate! 🎉
#vicious ve schwab#eli ever#villains series#eli cardale#victor vale#vengeful ve schwab#evervale#🎂🤓#🥳🥳🥳#11 fuckings years and no one is doing anything to stop the maddness
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you would expect a guy who was sent to hell to get better and learn his lesson, unfortunately it won't work with Eli Ever, he's probably in some void and will wake up and be even worse
#vicious ve schwab#eli ever#villains series#eli cardale#type of guy to never learn his lesson btw#i just want to read victorious please#can't wait anymore#not a day in his life he accept the consequences#in fact he finds excuses for the consequences of his actions and creates more consequences
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have you read Babel by RF Kuang?
No, but I really want to read it! it's been on my list for a while 😭
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Eli Ever. They could never make me hate you.
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Was Eli in love with Serena, or was it indeed her ability that made it so?
He acknowledges several times that Serena is appealing and, at one point, even compares his feelings for her to those he felt for Angie while he was dating her, but he keeps backtracking as well. He does conclude he should be trying to and wanting to kill her, but also finds her ability useful in his endeavours.
Is he trying to convince himself he doesn't like her because of his beliefs regarding EOs, although he truly does somewhat?
Otherwise, I'm not sure what to believe regarding the implications of their very first encounter. He never mentions it after the fact, either, and he does do things willingly for her before and after.
If she does elicit sentiments from people after all, wouldn't that mean she never interacted with anybody after her near death? Every single interaction she had after the experience was certainly not real, and everything people did concerning her was against their will?
Frankly, I'm not sure what anybody would've or should've done in her situation.
I would really appreciate hearing some viewpoints on this particular topic.
#your points and posts are interesting and I enjoy discussing them so it's not a problem!#Eli Ever and the ordeal of having two situationships in the spam of ten-years with two people who are similar to each other#I also always thought that Eli/Serena parallels Eli/Victor!#eli is just out there collecting toxic relationships with blondes#Resentment in relationships is also something that can form very strong bonds#at least it's something <3#for me part of the mutual manipulation came from the fact that Eli couldn't get out of the relationship#because we know that he is capable of killing whoever he thinks he should (Victor).#that or just a dark part of him wanted a connection like Serena even if one that would probably ruin everything#they are all terrible I want to put them in a lab#Connection and being unable to form it#wanting it#but is never gonna be the same because your humanity is no longer yours
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Angie deserved better than both of them
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Was Eli in love with Serena, or was it indeed her ability that made it so?
He acknowledges several times that Serena is appealing and, at one point, even compares his feelings for her to those he felt for Angie while he was dating her, but he keeps backtracking as well. He does conclude he should be trying to and wanting to kill her, but also finds her ability useful in his endeavours.
Is he trying to convince himself he doesn't like her because of his beliefs regarding EOs, although he truly does somewhat?
Otherwise, I'm not sure what to believe regarding the implications of their very first encounter. He never mentions it after the fact, either, and he does do things willingly for her before and after.
If she does elicit sentiments from people after all, wouldn't that mean she never interacted with anybody after her near death? Every single interaction she had after the experience was certainly not real, and everything people did concerning her was against their will?
Frankly, I'm not sure what anybody would've or should've done in her situation.
I would really appreciate hearing some viewpoints on this particular topic.
#[tw:sa] Anyway I think just because you hear consent twice (the second time still being dubious)#doesn't mean it doesn't qualify as possible abuse.#since we don't know for sure whether the will of the other party in Eli's case was flawed or not#I also never interpreted them as “dating”#but rather that it was how the people around them ended up coming to that conclusion#because I don't think that between them the two of them would consider themselves that way.#Apart from that going back to Serena one of the biggest themes in Villains is the loss of humanity that comes with the EO status#characters that we see clearly loat their powers are Eli & Serena as both of their powers affect their worldview relationship and moral#her disassociating most of the book is a valid idea#and trying to use the relationship with Eli as a way to gain some control also makes sense to me.#since he is the only one who appears to be able to resist her power but she still thinks she can extend control over him#as a way of living between life and death from the danger of Eli really being able to break one day#In the end yes being an EO takes something away from you for Serena it was her ability to form true and meaningful relationships#since her power would be a barrier to that always.#making her feel isolated and alone with the possibility of never being able to create anything “real”#thus clinging to the only possibility of some feeling that could be real even if resentment in the relationship with Eli.
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Was Eli in love with Serena, or was it indeed her ability that made it so?
He acknowledges several times that Serena is appealing and, at one point, even compares his feelings for her to those he felt for Angie while he was dating her, but he keeps backtracking as well. He does conclude he should be trying to and wanting to kill her, but also finds her ability useful in his endeavours.
Is he trying to convince himself he doesn't like her because of his beliefs regarding EOs, although he truly does somewhat?
Otherwise, I'm not sure what to believe regarding the implications of their very first encounter. He never mentions it after the fact, either, and he does do things willingly for her before and after.
If she does elicit sentiments from people after all, wouldn't that mean she never interacted with anybody after her near death? Every single interaction she had after the experience was certainly not real, and everything people did concerning her was against their will?
Frankly, I'm not sure what anybody would've or should've done in her situation.
I would really appreciate hearing some viewpoints on this particular topic.
#I think he felt attracted to her#but at the same time he hates the lack of control that it brought and how it interferes with his actions#throughout the narrative#because if I remember correctly he hated the fact that she tried to get involved. fit when he murdered#as he considers it a sacred act between him and god#also a small mention of [tw: sa]#I've never seen it discussed much#Since the most intimate interactions between them do not have Eli's consent...the descriptions have always made me unconfortable#most of the time they got overlooked by the fandom#So#if we consider this factor it is not a surprise that he hates Serena#kinda small because I would have to make a big post to explain everything I think about this relationship
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Oh yes! my HC or interpretation of Eli, includes him being in some way neurodivergent, I think it's an interesting way to analyze his behavior especially in how he seems to describe a lack of emotional connection in most of his life which could be aggravated by the abuse he suffered in childhood, and how the religious aspect of his life, also affects his worldview and behavior, as well as morals, etc.
and also not saying that the fact that he is neurodivergent is what made him a serial killer, but I would say that it could be counted as one of the factors that led to what he became.
Yall might have to bare with me on this one I'm not great at articulating my thoughts and although I'm neurodivergent I really don't have the proper terms to explain myself here
But like
Okay so it's very obvious that Eli is not neurotypical. I don't want to really get into specific diagnoses because I very much do not want to fall into the serial killer = mental disorder trope. It's a shitty trope and very harmful when handled poorly, especially with Cluster B personalities. Under no circumstances am I saying that Eli's mental condition is the cause of him being a serial killer. I am in fact trying to say the opposite.
TW for discussion of abuse and ableism
Basically, the crux of my argument lies with Eli's flashbacks in Vengeful, specifically when it comes to his father.
Eli mentions that the abuse started when he was around 9 years old because his father saw "the devil" in his eyes.
Eli's age at the time is very important. 9 years old. A literal child. Eli has done nothing wrong at this point aside from exist, and yet his father sees something wrong with him. It's possible that it was intended for Eli to have truly had some "evil" inside of him from the beginning, but it is far far more likely that Eli's father saw some kind of behavior out of the norm (we see that Eli was not a very expressive child. He had to learn all of those behaviors later on) and concluded that it hinted at some "hidden evil". We see those ideas reflected in our own society all the time, with apathy or lack of expression in face or vocal tone can be misconstrued or depicted as evil or heartless.
Eli was never evil or a bad kid. He was 9 years old. There was no devil in his eyes, he simply expressed himself in a way that was considered abnormal.
There's more I could say on this but I've run out of brain power. If anyone has any insight or ways they relate to Eli that they're comfortable talking about or even criticisms, I'm very open to discussion.
#As a person who is neurodivergent#I don't think it's a bad stereotype#it just needs to be treated with the necessary nuances.#I see him as having ASPD (Antisocial Personality Disorder).#because it's something that can happen#just knowing that not everyone will be violent#just because they have a specific condition#so in the end for me it's a matter of knowing how to separate and analyze#His masking is also one of the reasons why I see the interpretation as being very valid or plausible
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"you can't ship those characters they tried to kill each other!" sounds like someone can't appreciate the inherent eroticism of violence 🙄
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