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WHAT THE HECK

I only knew this one????

The booklet in my Heroes Season 1 DVD box set included this cast photo, which I’m not sure I’ve seen before. Um, Peter, honey… I’m not sure you’re facing in the right direction…

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hey, it's lovely that you replied and gave a more in-depth analysis! tbh i should've thought before adding those tags, because i did get where you were coming from - i just assumed it was more in the direction of calling female characters 'mommy' if you're into them / want them to dom you, and i didn't think that was the dynamic here. but i see now that that's now what you were getting at, and you're right of course. even though she doesn't know the depth of the insecurities she's exploiting, she strikes at the heart immediately.

i guess you could say now that my response was colored by my own experiences - but i always assumed Sylar was like this in most relationships in his life, not just family and romantic connections but friends, and generally his relationships / view of himself in the context of society as a whole. he fears that if he isn't special, he is no one at all. but you're right: the source of that is that people have repeatedly told him this, firstly and chiefly [the woman he thought of as] his mother. so yes - mommy issues!

I'm pulling @heroes-trash and @siderealtime tags from my recent post because I want to reply! Why did I place Elle in the 'mommy issues post'?

First, disclaimer: I'm still rewatching, I'm on episode 9 (s3). I don't remember all the plot points (I watched the show more than 10 years ago), so I might be wrong. But I'm interpreting things as I see them unfold on the screen.

Also, this is my excuse to write an essay on Sylar, bear with me.

So, Sylar ...

He's insecure and unloved by his parents, so he craves attention from other people. He wants to be Gabriel Gray, to be enough, to live his life knowing that someone will love him for who he is.

This issue stems from his emotionally abusive relationship with his mother, Virginia.

He said it, Virginia, he doesn't want to be a banker. She doesn't care, because all she cares about is keeping up appearances and making him do what she wants, not what HE wants. "You could be anything you want" my ass.

This further proves the idea that she doesn't care about what he wants. She wants him to be someone Of Great Importance in the eyes of other people. This formed his trauma and shaped how he views relationships with others.

Also, this foreshadows him being a president in the s1 alternative future. Nathan-shaped, he lost his identity and is now following his mama's wishes.

This shot shows how creepy that mother-son relationship is.

The idea of him being 'not enough' is evident to everyone, that's why he's so easily manipulated.

The scene that shows how Elle first met Gabriel proves that the Company has been watching him for some time now.

I believe that they might have been watching his mother's apartment as well, so they know all his triggers.

They send in a girl who can play him like a fiddle by showing him compassion and understanding – something that he couldn't get from his mother.

He calls Elle 'an angel', which is an interesting word choice since he's named Gabriel (archangel) and his mother is Virginia (pure).

Elle is able to manipulate him by resorting to 'mommy tactics'. (Angela did the same)

Let's compare two scenes: the scene in Virginia's apartment and the scene in Gabriel's apartment.

So, both scenes involve 'mother' figures (with updos, lol) and food. In the first scene, Gabriel is forced to eat the sandwich (or else he'll make mommy upset). In the second scene, he's finally presented with something that he actually prefers and he can share it with another person.

Now, the final blow:

Playing on his insecurities and his desire to connect with others, Elle breaks him. Just like his mother did with the whole 'president' speech.

TL;DR: Sylar's desire to be 'special' is based on his trauma and relationship with his mother. The Company (Elle) is able to manipulate him using that against him. Mommy issues prevail.

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Sylar has broken my mommy-issues-counter, it's just TOO MUCH

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

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In my heart I still know that Gretchen with all her true crime weird girl energy, Zach with his filmmaking skills and Claire with her literal ability to get cut open and have limbs torn off without being harmed are out there being gay and making low budget slasher movies together in the woods. I know this to be true it was revealed to me in a vision

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This is about what’s going on with us.

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Let me help you, Peter.

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found this at a car boot sale today

Omg… shout out to Wendy and Lisa fr for this list of bangers Kirby plaza you will always be famous

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Hey, give your big brother a hug.

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Homecoming (1x09) vs .07% (1x19)

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TV Meme : Bromances (1/3)

↳ “Heroes” Peter & Nathan Petrelli

“I don’t know who I am without you.” ”Course you do. You’re Nathan Petrelli. Top of his class, valedictorian, most-likely-to. You’re that guy with me or without me.” ”Who’s to say I’m not all that because of you? Most of what we are is what people expect us to be. I mean, if you take them away, nothing means anything.”

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you rereblog, i go off again with my own tags 🤷‍♀️ i don't make the rules!

Your intentions… your emotions…

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ENDLESS LIST OF THINGS I SHIP: CLAIRE/GRETCHEN

It’s a physics thing. Everything in the universe has a magnetic charge, right? Strange attractors are particles that end up together that don’t really belong together but when they’re together they’re super powerful…sort of like we could be?

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ok, these are actually really cute? XD do check them out if you've got the time!

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it’s your friendly neighborhood heroes anon! you seem to maybe kinda like the petrellis, so i’ll give you a fun ask about them.

what do you think peter and nathan were like with each other growing up? i’ve seen a bunch of different headcannons from people. in some they’re only like 8 years apart and in others it’s 14. some people think nathan was seen as more of a ‘cool cousin that gets you booze’ type by peter and they never really saw each other much, but when they did it was a fun time. but then in other fics nathan and peter are basically conjoined at the hip even after nathan graduates.

it’s all a big mess, and i don’t know who to believe lol. your thoughts? don’t be afraid to ramble on and on (and on)

Hi!!! I love to talk about the Petrellis haha so here goessss 💖💖

Ooh so first of all, I don’t rly know anything abt the supplemental stuff like the comics lol but not many ppl do anyway lmao

And secondly, in regards to their age gap we can roughly work it out from a few things: s1-s4 take place over roughly ~2 years (for instance Claire is 15-16 in s1 and 18/going to college in s4). Peter was born in December 1979 and is 26 in s1 (stated in canon), Nathan is similarly stated to be 40 in s4 (so ~38 in s1). So I’ve always interpreted them as being 12 years apart. Which yes, is a pretty sizeable age gap and means they wouldn’t have hung out in the same way that siblings of closer ages/in similar life stages would have. Peter and/or Nathan would be away at fancy boarding school, Nathan was in the military for parts of Peter’s childhood.

Their childhood is not super filled in by canon so a lot of this is my personal headcanon/interpretation (be warned for subjectivity/filling in the gaps) but I think their clinging to each other/closeness did start very young regardless of the age gap. Their father was terrifying and emotionally abusive as fuck, controlling to Nathan and at best dismissive and neglectful to Peter, Angela at least loves them in her own way but isn’t much better as a parent and is actively manipulative/gaslighting them all the time lmao and they live in an insane household that forced them together due to this (no wonder they’re Like That).

I think Nathan’s always been protective of Peter and wanted to be there for him/stand in front of him to shield him (though I think he’s later a little resentful about it, similarly Peter sometimes sees Nathan as too much of a puppet to their parents and doesn’t get why he didn’t stand up for himself more/gets frustrated with him, but Nathan was literally moulded from birth to be their obedient little attack dog who’d do whatever they wanted him to. Nathan in s3 saying his evil mind-controlling dad chose his career and even the person he married was picked out for him. There’s a reason that he seems so spineless.) but Nathan’s exception has always been Peter - the one thing he’ll defy his parents for. In s1 he goes along with what he’s meant to do until it comes time for him to pick The Plan or Peter, and he sacrifices himself for Peter. I think Angela never even considered that Nathan would choose Peter over her plan for him, which was the flaw in her machinations lol.

Peter also mentions in s4 that Nathan would rearrange his military leave to be there for Peter’s birthday, etc. i think that they were really happy to see each other every time they got to, it gave them some escape with someone who wasn’t their parents, who understood what it was like to grow up in that family. They’re hugely different people, but in part because Peter was allowed that freedom to be himself and have his own opinions that Nathan simply didn’t have, and again I think Nathan at once kind of resents this and also fiercely wanted that for Peter and is proud of him, despite the way he’s mean to him sometimes lol.

Of course I’d be remiss not to mention the infamous s2 deleted scene, where Nathan says that he and Peter used to steal Arthur’s scotch and go out to the treehouse and he ‘got him drunk for the first time’ up there. Not sure exactly when but this has to have been when Peter was a teenager, and… whew. The way Nathan delivers this with such anguish (‘why did I go back there…’) says so much about how intensely he feels about this whole thing, like, whatever really happened in that treehouse was a LOT and he’s having a LOT of feelings about it. I think when Peter was a teenager their closeness started becoming TOO much and too intense and it scared Nathan a bit as much as he wanted to hold onto Peter. But aaaaanyway….

I just love me some codependent brothers lmao so I’ve probably coloured it more towards that in my own perception. But basically I do think they were close regardless of the age gap!

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@judasisgayriot DO NOT SEPARATE THEM!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭

Well, then one of us is going to be right, and one of us won’t. In the end, all that really matters is love.

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that's so valid, ignore that mess honestly... i loved Hiro's and Matt's storylines respectively (well - the potential of them, at least, as Reborn was basically 30% potential, 20% whattheabsolutefuck and 50% between ok and absolutely terrible execution), but my god it was a tire fire.

and yeah the Company having a human extremist group makes a ton of sense!! they recruited Karen Sprague's brother, too, for example (Joseph Gallagher was his name) by telling him a powered human killed his sister, and refusing to give him details unless he joined them (at least that's how i remember it, been a hot second). they could've done so much more with that (i also wonder if those people knew the Company was founded and built by powered ppl?? and how they'd feel about that?? / why no one higher up noticed for so long) but alas...

in short: fucking FUCK Ali Larter. and by that I mean don’t even touch her with a ten-foot-pole, jfc.

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i'm adding Paulette Hawkins (D.L.'s mother) [who also hated Niki, which seemed really odd at the time, but does make me Hmmm very much thinking about Ali Larter now] to this list... she only had one scene on the show, but she made another appearance in the comics, employed by the Company. she had the same power that Ando would later get - ability amplification - and was, in the first and last story she appeared in, summoned to help ("help") with bagging&tagging a guy who could make plants grow really fast. she killed him by touching him - he grew a small forest, and then turned into a tree himself.

but i don't want to talk about that, i want to talk about what happened right after.

a human extremist group among the Company workers killed her.

that's right.

they reported her in as a casuality of the fight with plant guy, and for all intents and purposes, seemed to get away with that. that extremist group had a bit more of a plot, but nothing huge iirc, and bottom line... yeah. an extremist group (nevermind that they didn't discriminate by color of skin...in the text) killed D.L.'s mother / Micah's grandmother / Niki's mother-in-law. and... it's never brought up on the show. she's never brought up on the show again.

just another dead black character.

and do not FUCKING get me started on black characters on Heroes Reborn.

in short: fucking FUCK Ali Larter. and by that I mean don’t even touch her with a ten-foot-pole, jfc.