hazys-discourse

[hazys-discourse]

I think its interesting that endos will call anti endos ableist while ignoring the history of their community calling people with post traumatic symptoms "insane" and harassing survivor groups. I beg endos to look at your history, look at what your spaces came from in the 90s and 2000s, see what your roots are before you look at us at all.

yeahh, they forget they come from a movement to demedicalise DID, leading to those who actually have DID losing the help and support they need

[hazys-discourse]

“Put this pro endo flag to let people know you are safe!” WHAT.

Why are endos acting like they are “discriminated against.” Having a system isn’t fun. I wish I wasn’t a system because it genuinely affects my life. It’s a DISORDER. Being an endo is the same thing as saying “I have PTSD without the trauma.” THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

This makes me so upset. My memories are getting worse and worse, and yet these endo “systems” are just “making up” alters for fun. Why are there pro endo people. Am I actually missing something??

I hate endo systems. I’m convinced that a small percentage are actual systems that forgot their trauma, and the rest are just making ocs while hiding behind the term system (its not fun btw!!)

— 🪱🪲

yeah, I really don't know why endos always act as if they're an oppressed class; you're not. You are the oppressors. They literally come from a movement that attempted to demedicalise DID completely, which would make many many systems suffer as they likely wouldn't have anymore accommodations or have access to the things their diagnosis gives them (which probably isn't a lot, but still). The only "discrimination" they experience (that's related to them being endogenic) is when people tell them facts, which, by the way, isn't discrimination. When someone tells you 'hey, what you're doing is hurting hundreds of not thousands of people (directly and indirectly) and you're spreading tons and tons of misinformation' that isn't discrimination. Your hatred for endos is valid and even if a small percentage of them are genuinely confused that doesn't excuse the misinformation and harm they spread / cause.

[hazys-discourse]

i think it’s interesting (negative) that endos and the like will call themselves “non disordered plurals” and then proceed to call anti-endos ableist. please keep your shit straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it is, you are so real for saying this!!!

Because like, how is it ableist if you're, as you put it, non disordered?? /Nay

[hazys-discourse]

See I really really would bet on it that if endogenic systems have real life jobs and responsibilities, all the talk about voices in your head and alters would disappear.

But for actual systems it doesn't. It would be bad to be a system (especially a larger, fictive heavy system) in a cooperate workplace huh? Well unfortunately unlike them, we don't have the ability to turn it off.

You don't know what's it's like to be splitting and need to focus on a professional conversation, to genuinely not be able to make complete sentences because people are talking all at once, to be working and you have no idea what you're even supposed to do but the world thinks you're one person so you just need to suck it up.

That's the difference between you and us. You don't know suffering. You don't know what it's like to actually have a disorder. Being a system isn't a fucking game, stick to creating your OCs.

[hazys-discourse]

we did not go through years of abuse, shame, exhausting cbt and emdr sessions just for some idiots online to claim that "you can be a system if you really really want to!!! you just have to convince yourself and you'll have silly blorbos in your head just like me!!!! ^^ "

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[hazys-discourse]

I've come across a few pro-endo blogs on my suggested spreading misinformation so I wanted to make a clarification.

"We are not saying we have DID, we are saying that we have some form of plurality"

Plurality as a concept is derived from childhood trauma. The mere existence of plurality in DID and OSDD is the result of heavy trauma and dissociation interfering with the development of a personality in a child. It is not multiple personalities that causes plurality it is the LACK of a personality. So no, if you did not experience severe childhood trauma you cannot be plural, you cannot be a system. There is no ifs or buts you simply cannot. Plurality as a concept has NO place for you as an endogenic system.

And a side note, there is no such thing as fakeclaiming an endogenic system - when your entire existence is a facade.

[hazys-discourse]

love it when endogenic "systems" say "theres a study that proves we're valid!!" and give absolutely no resources backing them up. love it when endogenic "systems" break dnis and ignore peoples boundaries on a daily basis because they feel entitled to be part of the disabled community theyre mocking and couldnt care less about. love it when endogenic "systems" complain about being "triggered" when they actively harass LEGITIMATELY TRAUMATIZED PEOPLE and constantly tell them their trauma isn't valid, isn't "right."

get the FUCK out of here with that horse shit. get out of our communities. get out of our spaces. get your sad little asses away from these traumatized CHILDREN youre grooming into denying their trauma and making their situation so much harder. endogenic "systems" get the FUCK OUT.

-- zack 🔪

[hazys-discourse]

Today in "please remember that words mean things":

I saw an endo comparing systems with "endos dni" to fascists.

Fascist doesn't mean "person I don't like" and you're doing their job for them by watering down the term

[hazys-discourse]

Jesus Christ

I hate this

Despite having a DNI, (pro)endos just never fucking listen

We’ve had several come to our alterhuman blog just because they’re in our dni

I haven’t seen many, if any at all, actual traumagenic systems do that to endos

[hazys-discourse]

The worst comeback of endos is "we aren't ableist because we don't say that we have DID" ... Let me hold your hand while I say this... You cannot be a system without a disorder, and being a system is a disability.

yeah... Also they usually say they have DID anyways, and they invade DID/OSDD specific spaces, so that argument is pointless

[hazys-discourse]

SYSTEMPUNK / SYSPUNK IS NOT AN ENDO INCLUSIVE TAG. YOU HAVE PLURALPUNK. STAY IN YOUR OWN SPACE. PLEASE STOP INVADING OURS. PLEASE LET US HAVE OUR SPACES. PLEASE LEAVE US ALONE. YOU HAVE YOUR OWN TAG. JUST USE THAT.

[hazys-discourse]

you are not a system without trauma.

your system did not form for any reason other than trauma.

"non-traumagenic" isn't a thing.

"traumaendo" isn't a thing.

trauma survivors shouldn't have to clarify that they're "traumagenic" because people want to roleplay on the internet.

go fuck yourself if you think that "endos" are valid. my trauma isn't a label you can wear.

you can not be a system without trauma.

you can not be a system without trauma.

you can not be a system without trauma.

[ID: STOP! this blog is a strictly anti-endo space! pro-endos and endo neutrals, shoo! shoo shoo!]

[hazys-discourse]

i don't care if i get hate for this in any capacity, endogenic "systems," you're ableist pieces of shit and i hate you, so much.

you will never know the pain that real systems have to experience on a day to day basis. you will never understand the ramifications of having this disorder. you don't get it.

you'll never understand the panic attacks, you'll never understand the trauma responses, the flashbacks, the episodes, the suffering.

you'll never get it, because you're not a fucking system. you make a mockery of our pain, steal our terms, invade our communities, and further stigmatize an already heavily criticized set of disorders.

we do not want, nor do we need, you in this community. we want you out of our spaces.

i hope those of you who are genuinely faking this disorder and not just confused hate yourselves for the rest of your lives for doing something so fucking vile.

[ID: STOP! this blog is a strictly anti-endo space! pro-endos and endo neutrals, shoo! shoo shoo!]

[hazys-discourse]

God i wish endos would cease to exist rn theyre so fucking annoying

[hazys-discourse]

sometimes i wanna ask my queer friends

who have queerphobic parents

if they even know

what unconditional love looks like

[hazys-discourse]

I feel like r/systemscringe would throw a hissy fit if they learned we split a fragment once due to lab/blood work lmao, considering they seem to hate systems that split easily.

(slight tw here for vomiting/nausea)

like sorry we had a needle in our arm for 10 (ish) minutes and were puking for like 7 of those minutes? we have a severe phobia of needles and our brain decided we needed someone to handle it so most of us will be dissociated from those emotions later. we also have like, a slight/borderline phobia of vomiting too. so like. we were severely anxious and needed a way to cope with it😭??

anyways, screw r/systemscringe. the human brain is complex. having a CDD makes it even more complex. of course parts of the disorder is going to be confusing. they're called complex dissociative disorders for a reason.

They have a fit over everything lmao they really pretend they know everything about a complex disorder even though none of them do. You should see the bullshit responses they gave when asked why the sub was made 🤦🏽‍♂️

Anyway that sounds awful, I hope you're okay now and are feeling better from it all

[hazys-discourse]

Endos are assholes.

They’re horrible. You shouldn’t make heavily traumatized individuals feel unsafe in their own spaces. You shouldn’t make spaces for heavily traumatized individuals unsafe. Fuck off. Get out of our spaces.