Andrea. Mostly Panthers + Pens + we'll see (header pic by @fleurywiththesave); grown up human person; she/her; queer; sideblog to not spam hockey on main; so I follow and like from another blog 😪 🩷; free Palestine
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Same anon as before but, I also have a soft sport for Matthew in my heart honestly because he is from Missouri and that's where I'm from, I grew up there and still hold Missouri and its residents with so much love in my heart. And the majority of them are conservative. The majority of them are Trump supporters. And even so, the majority of them are not bad people and I love them all despite, even if they've made me a political refugee now. Because sure they're Trump supporters but for most of them it's a combination of a lack of education about... Everything else and a lack of education about politics. It's just how they grew up. When I moved out of my parents' house, the guy I lived next door to was a Trump supporter with Trump flags in his yard and I was visibly transgender and had trans and gay flags in my window. But he still plowed my driveway every time it rained and helped me replace my car battery when the winter killed it and I didn't have my own tools and mowed my lawn because it was small and attached to his lawn and we were the only two houses on that side of the block and, well. I think the people who think Matthew was lying for some reason when he entirely voluntarily said supportive things about queer people are a bit out of touch. I think he's legitimately just really stupid about stuff like that. And if it makes me an idiot to want to believe that most people in the world are good people, even when they say bad or disagreeable stuff... I don't know. I'll reevaluate my stance if he like, hatecrimes someone or says something really explicitly targetedly transphobic or racist or something publicly, but... Posting stupid shit about loving a country that it is currently your actual job to post shit about loving (or did we all forget they designated him the 4 Nations spokesperson) and that you've only ever been taught is good and you've legitimately never been in a position to even see the suffering doesn't make someone persona non grata for me, personally.
Aw, anon, I hug you and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
I get a bit sidetracked on these asks because I get annoyed and it's easier to be flippant about it. But it has also been my point from the start that people aren't just awful and aren't just one way or another, what they are a lot of times is dumb. It feels very out of reality and very internet echo chamber to believe people are one dimensioned or people are like a cartoon mean guy and not complex human beings.
I told someone right after the WH visit that there are a lot of things I love about Matthew and literally ALL of those things still hold true, so there's not a reason for me to like just drop him or hate him.
I like how he loves his family and his team, I like how he loves to create a narrative around his hockey and I like the way he plays: his hockey vision and how much of a pest he is and how he has a flair for the dramatic and overall a personality™ (I even like how bad of a skater he is).
Of course this is all parasocial because I don't actually know him, but for everything I've ever seen and heard of him I don't have any reason to believe all this doesn't just hold true.
And I know people have a lot of feelings about what he said about queer people, but I also believe he meant it, mostly because I take people at their words, but also because another thing I know and like about Matthew is that he loves hockey and I truly think he loves hockey in a way that makes him want everyone else to also love hockey, so I believe him when he says hockey is for everyone, not in a political way probably, but in a "please come and enjoy my sport way", also he didn't talk just about the fans at all, he said everyone was welcome inside their locker room, which in my opinion was an step further and it was a whole different conversation to the one happening in that moment. I know people said he only said it out of obligation, but what obligation, really? It was a few years ago, yes, but as we can see more and more being what people called "politically correct" isn't the norm anymore.
Anyway, I wanted to make this post about Matthew after everything blew over a bit, but I decided your ask (that made me tear up a bit) was the place to do it.
Appreciate you loads, anon. 🩷
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That johnny thing got me so fcking mad. Using a dead person as a gotcha moment. Fucking really??? You do not have to make up shit just because you don’t like the guy!!
I woke up to one of those tweets and got really annoyed again about this too!
I think out of the stuff I've read during this whole 4 nations thing this has been the one that's annoyed me the most. It lacks empathy and it really shows people true colours, but well...
#im back on the asks for a bit#anon#ask#thanks for the ask!#matthew tkachuk#johnny gaudreau#4 nations face off
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obsessed that a french guy was like, hmmmmmm I wish to write a spanish-language musical about a mexican drug cartel crime lord transitioning. sure I can't write music, don't speak spanish, know nothing about mexico or the drug war, and also know nothing about being trans; but that shall not stop me
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Guys I'm all asked out, I'm not answering more stuff rn, I'm just going to play Romance Club which I haven't been able to even open and it updated two days ago
But I love you allllll 🩷
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Thank you for like. The common sense. I've been saying, like, Matthew hasn't said anything I wouldn't expect like. Literally any white male athlete to say. He hasn't said anything a lot of the people saying shit about him's faves haven't already said. Like obviously it's up to you where you draw the line, but I think it's just been such a big deal with him because he's so polarizing to begin with and people love to hate him and pretend their faves haven't all done the same or worse already. I think everyone on here because we are all living highly politicized lives where we don't have the privilege of avoiding the horrors every single day a lot of people here are heavily projecting that onto guys who like, probably don't even think about politics day to day at all. Probably don't even know what politics are, half of them.
Thanks, and yea to all of this.
I also just saw someone saying their fave couldn't possibly be a trumpie because he reads and people who read can't be trumpies, oh boy, have I got news for that person because I studied/I'm studying literature and sadly at least quarter of the people I know from school aren't good people just because they read, they aren't very clever in every day stuff either and some of them are straight up awful people 🤷🏽♀️
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I think most people are mad about his tweets he posted after the WH visit tbh, especially cause he included Trumps personal Twitter handle in it. Idk if it means that he is a Trumpie or not, I'm kinda neutral about it because he's never outwardly confirmed it word for word. But its the fact he's being so positive in proximity to Trump that is causing all this controversy. I can see both sides of the argument, but I dont think people should harass others who are fans of his.
Look as I've said before it makes sense to me if that's people's hard line, that's absolutely fine.
But I'm also saying they are contributing to the narrative that allows the worse of the worse to think they are welcome into hockey.
So. Stop contributing to that narrative just because you hate Matthew Tkachuk or whoever else. STOP IT.
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Someone on here said that Matthew, a close friend of Johnny, was one of the biggest reason why team USA went from this is for the gaudreaus to political real quick. Out of all the things that were said lately, THIS triggered me the most because this is just simply untrue. I need to calm down lol
SIGH
I can't even say anything else except that I read someone saying that using Johnny who was also a conservative man as a gotcha against his close personal friends is despicable behaviour.
And I would also say that this is proof that a lot of people here don't see these men as real people, they just see them as their little dolls, so they can't handle when it turns out the doll is dolling in their own direction and not in the direction their head had created for them 🤷🏽♀️
#im kinda very done with this all#matthew tkachuk#noah hanifin#johnny gaudreau#anon#ask#thanks for the ask!
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Maybe i missed something, but did Matthew say anything about tr*mp this whole tournament? I only know about him saying “i don’t like it” when asked about the booing, and something about playing for the flag in agreement to what hagel said ig. And smiling on that photo of them getting tr*mp’s call (smiling just like his teammates). But other than that, nothing right? Like people are sooooooo dead set on him playing for tr*mp when time and time again, he said they’re playing for Johnny. He reiterated that to espn before the game but ig people just ignored it.
He did not. He didn't say anything about Trump at all. And like I can't talk about what he said at the WH because I'm not a masochist and I wasn't interested in watching that at all, but for what I gather he only said he was proud to be there and to be American and stuff he would've probably said if Biden was the president too 🤷🏽♀️
And then AGAIN if there's a hill I'm willing to die on is that for Matthew the fight wasn't about the booing in that "I will fight for America's honor" way people are making it out to be, and it only tells on the people perpetuating that nonsense, imo.
At the end of the day Matthew said he didn't like the booing, Marchand said he didn't like the booing and Sidney fucking Crosby said he didn't like the booing, SO... Are we to assume what about that ???????? Plus don't let me start on Brady, he didn't say anything at all about anything and everyone is also acting like he killed a puppy.
(again this is not me saying they aren't conservative... I think most of them all are).
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look at that smile, Charles is so me here
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Update on Matthew from Maurice




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hello i liked pomo's media today a lot so i am recording some of it here 👍
How do you think the players, you know, teammates on both side of the game -- how do they flip the switch and go from competing against each other to being teammates again in the course of two days? Really easily and quickly. Probably a couple of chirps, at appropriate times, but all the men in NHL rooms and our room, certainly, are far more closely connected with each other because of the day-to-day than they are on a tournament -- even if they played with guys before, they've got friends... yeah, there'll be some good jokes, but that'll be it. Aaron Ekblad said yesterday that Gus Forsling's probably not going to hear the end of the two-on-one with Luostarinen [and Lundell]. Yeah, they'll be just working him in practice for sure. There's a real chance those two don't get a puck over the blueline for the rest of the year with him out there. He'll be gapping at the -- yeah, and that'll be it. And that's the fun part about it, you know, you get to see your guys going up and down the ice. We had eight there, and that made the tournament fun for us. Looking at Mikkola, he was obviously already on an upward trend, but getting to play top pair for Finland in a tournament like that, how do you expect that to maybe affect him here going forward, just having a responsibility like that in a tournament like that? In the same way that Luostarinen and Lundell become important players. All three of those guys are so important to us, but not necessarily known around the league because when we roll into town it's going to be Barkov, and Ekblad, and Forsling... Tkachuk. But really important players here, and now people know why. Mikkola's game was strong there, he's a big man, he was close, he was playing his game, and it's noticeable in those tournaments, so. Good for all of them -- they had earned the right to play well, to look good, and to be appreciated for the quality of their hockey. Does Niko maybe take that role that Forsling had, maybe, until the last couple years, where he was that unknown defenseman [unintelligible]? Yeah. Right, so Forsling's known now, and now it's Mikkola's turn to kind of get the appreciation and recognition for how important he is.
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when you read books or fanfic do you read every single word? (As opposed to skimming or just reading dialogue)
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"if i say who i think actually made that happened people arent going to like it"
I'm so curious 👀👀👀. Would you be willing to share?
Oh god lol
I got an ask about this yesterday when I put that on the tags but I was taking my dad to physical rehab and then we got home and I was going to watch the game and two of my mum's friends appeared out of nowhere with food and wine so I ended up not even watching 😭
But ANYWAY I actually said it before a few days ago and I said it again just now on something I reblogged.
I seriously think it was the internet fans (read this as certain hockey fans or Matthew's ex fans or fans of other guys that somehow think their guy is the only morally unpolluted person in hockey) that were already mad at the WH visit that jumped to the absurd conclusion of it being about the anthems and made that conclusion take off both here (here it doesn't matter) and on twitter (where it clearly took off despite it being absurd) and it went from their mouths to maga ears and OF COURSE they were going to take it and run with it because if there's something the conservatives in the US are doing very seriously is trying to run the internet.
So yea, I think, the "calling out" crowd "called out" too close to the sun in a way that allowed the tournament to be kidnapped by the worse people. Thankfully team Canada won, so at least that couldn't go on.
#anon#ask#4 nations face off#maybe#matthew tkachuk#this is the last i will say about this but i wholeheartedly believe this is how this happened later it was influenced by other stuff ofc#but in the beginning#🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️#thanks for the ask!#anon im not mad 😂
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I'm sorry but this is so silly and the only way someone would think this for real is if they have never seen Matthew or the panthers (with Matthew) play.
Is not just that Matthew said it wasn't because the anthems (which like that's enough, because this is going to come as a surprise to the internet ex fans but he was never catering to them, he was always just being himself) and that the Canadian player ALL said they didn't like the booing to the anthem.
But people on the know including commentators at the moment framed it for what it was: a fight to get both the public and the team going and reminiscing that Olympic fight between his dad and Claude Lemieux (because both Matthew and Brady are obsessed with his dad).
Sam Bennett was asked about it after the game and the question was framed in a very "they (the US team) were the aggressors" and he said so too "I've played with Matthew for a long time and I know he likes to get into it and he likes to get the fans into it... There's no bigger stage than this..."
So, again, if you have ever seriously seen him play you know what it was about. And if you have and you're still both creating and perpetuating the narrative of it being about the anthems you are being ill intentioned and as I said before you are the ones that were feeding into maga crap... apparently just as a gotcha to Matthew, which is even worse imo.
fights probably would have happened in that game regardless, but it is so obvious that the fights off the draw were because of the anthem, and there’s no point denying it. of course matthew isn’t going to publicly admit that’s why it happened, but when him, brady and miller are pre planning it in their little group chat and the teams gm is going on about how the “political flair” inspired the team it’s not hard to put two and two together. i also don’t buy that matthew would publicly dickride trump but would draw the line at fighting over the anthem i mean come on.
I honestly don’t understand this line of thinking. If he already torched his goodwill with the people who would have a problem with the fights being about the anthems by posting about the White House visit, why wouldn’t he go along with it when people asked if that’s what the fights were about?
I think the damage has been done since Bill Guerin said all that on Fox News, and none of them have directly addressed it afterward, but Matthew did deny it the very day of and I don’t feel a need to think he’s lying when I know he likes to start shit.
he’s either media trained enough to not post about the White House (which he wasn’t) or he’s so far up trump’s ass that he would publicly claim he was fighting for the anthem (the same as Hanifin saying they were going to try to win for trump lol). I don’t really think it can be both, and that’s fine if you disagree but that’s where I’m at.
#im sorry im sorry op but this actually pisses me off#matthew tkachuk#boy and me are divorcing stop sending nonsense asks because you are mad so i can keep my divorce proceadings going until i find out how bad#is the injury actually
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he did in fact do the interview with the beer (too) benny and showed it off the camera and everything
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4 nations face off championship team canada vs team usa | 2.20.25 (x)(x)
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Sorry to all the tkachuky girlies but Matthew and I are in the midst of a divorce until I get positive news about his injury
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