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i’m traveling tonight so this is the only drawing you get.

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"The way Daniel sits here with his arm around the back of the sofa, a conspicuously empty, person-shaped space right beside him..."

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yeah he was just grabbing a snack

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your fascinating boy

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Alice/Armand/Alice as Daniel Molloy saw (her?) resplendent in the sunlight

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alice drag AU fic out now 🧸🗣️

chapter one: “with teeth”

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Armand in that short purple dress that Daniel likes because he walks so confidently hand in hand with him in the streets of Paris where the city lights illuminate his dark hair with a golden halo and he makes Daniel scrape gum off his high heels with a credit card DO YOU SEE THE VISION???

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where does the bullshit start armand amadeo arun alice?

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Spoiler for 2x02 (EPISODE 9) -- And the thing I scream out loud during one scene (and if you are a Devil's Minion fan, you know the scene I'm talking about):

"OH MY GOD ARMAND IS ALICE!!!"

Yes, that is literally what I screamed out loud when we got that quick flashback of Armand back in the 70s talking to Daniel about stealing and selling his dad's Playboy magazines . . . and then the cut back to Armand saying Alice wanted to say yes to his proposal, but didn't trust him.

Armand was basically hinting at what split him and Daniel up which is -- Armand didn't trust Daniel's love for him!

Which, you know, actually fits the book. Because Daniel so badly wanted to be a vampire and was addicted to Armand's blood, Armand would very much feel that once Daniel was turned he'd just run off or something and leave Armand behind -- that Daniel didn't want Armand at all, that he only just to be a vampire and that was it. (Wasn't that scenario in the Rice's Tulane notes, IIRC?)

Which, oh man, when Armand realizes that Daniel did really love him . . . 😩

But anyway, what I mean by Armand being Alice isn't that Alice didn't exist. I do think she does because otherwise there is something off because in Season 1 Daniel calls Alice his first wife. Meaning they did get married . . . unless Daniel has been lying all this time that he and Alice did get married because she really doesn't exist?

Gah! I need more dammit! (I need ep 2x05 now dammit! 🥺)

Anyway, I do think there are LOT of memories in Daniel's head that are truthfully about Armand but have been replaced with Alice to fill in/hide what the actual true memory was, which has been my long-standing theory about all this. But if Alice really does turn out to have never existed . . . and everything about Alice really IS just about Armand but Daniel really can't remember that . . . then what about her pregnancy? Does at least one of his kids not really exist?

. . . and as I just wrote that . . . I have long been thinking that Season 3 in Dubai was going to be very much like the play Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? And, if you know anything about that play -- particularly the plot point regarding George and Martha's son . . . 😮

Holy shit. . . yeah I think I now know why some reviews of Season 2 were comparing some of it to Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? 😧 😮

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YESSSS

We're not paying attention tonight in this chili's (actually in class) so its theory time: Armand is Alice but Alice isn't necessarily Armand.

(And just so we're clear this is purely a AMC IWTV theory)

So, the facts:

AMC Daniel: divorced twice, presumably his first wife was Alice, information about her has been given but nothing about his second wife, he has two *very different* reactions when Alice is brought up

Reaction 1) Alice telling Daniel she's pregnant

Yes Daniel is being egged on in a way but he is very detached from the memory when its brought up. "I think it was the yeah..." and then he goes on to talk about the book and chapters, the work he didnt finish, but he doesn't react further. It's almost implied that he doesnt have emotional attachment to that memory anymore. This Alice he is no longer attached to, he is emotionally seperate from her and the memories of her.

Reaction 2) She said no

While he might have been emotionally separated from the memory of Alice seperated, the same cant be said for when the proposal is brought up. Daniel is visibly choked up when saying she said not, he looks devastated and visibly shaken. This memory hurts, it's the definition of painful. Alice said no and it broke him in a way that still effects him. This Alice he is still emotionally attached to and is, in one way or another, still in love with "her".

So who is "her"?

Both Alices are real but they aren't the same person. Alice 1 he's over, no love lost there and it's been that way for a long time. Alice 2 still has a hold over him but Alice 2 isn't the same person as Alice 1. Watch Louis and Armand when Alice is brought up. Louis is egging him on the entire time, he doesn't have any skin in the game but is looking for a point of hurt. "What did Alice say?" "Let's see what she thinks now." However, Armand has 2 seperate reactions much like Daniel. When Alice 1 is brought up he has no reaction, he has no emotional attachment but when Alice 2 is brought up he looks devastated. By this point the scale of which Armand's memory editing hasn't been shown but the idea that he's been doing so to others has already been introduced. Its known that the three of them met in 1973 and, in 02×05 the details that neither Louis nor Daniel remembered of that original meeting are shown.

In the books, when Daniel leaves Armand, Armand reasons that Daniel never loved him. He reasons that Daniel was just an addict addicted to blood so there never was any love there.

Going back to the memory of Alice saying no. Daniel is devastated. Armand is devastated. Alice was a real person that Daniel had a relationship with in the past, they had, presumably, at least one child together, but she is later than Alice 2. Armand is sitting back listening to his fascinating boy recount that Alice 2 broke his heart and he still love them* in a way and he's going through a reckoning. He tells Louis at one point that the boy they met in 1973 is still in there and Armand is sitting there through that conversation being forced to realize that. The Daniel he knew in the past is in there still. If the Devil's Minion era did infact happen there, and the look on Armand's face shows that it did, he's sitting there realizing where he fucked up. He replaced himself in Daniel's memories with Alice, likely using the same reasoning he did in the books. Daniel was an addict and didn't actually love him.

Daniel might not have been proposing marriage in the actual memory to Armand but there is the idea that when one proposes marriage it's for the rest of ones life, the rest of ones life is quite the concept for immortals. He very well might have been asking for Armand to turn him so it wasn't Daniel spending the rest of his mortal life with Armand because he loved him but instead was Daniel wanting to spend the rest of Armand's life with him because he was in love and never wanted to leave him. Daniel is recounting that "Alice" said no but showed he's still in love with them*. Armand is watching this realizing that he did actually love him and oh shit he still loves me now.

(And Louis is just there being a little shit.)

Conclusion: Daniel is over actual real woman Alice but is still desperately in love with and heart broken over him*. Armand replaced himself with Alice in his memories so that the Daniel/Armand memories and the Daniel/Alice memories all became Daniel/Alice memories.

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OMG i love this too much

lonely is the muse.

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Duaidhsjidyeias just amazing😭😭😭

It would have taken another immortal to keep up with him.

so i haven't read the books but i did read the Devil's Minion chapter and this part made me laugh out loud:

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Oh my god this is just too sweet😭 I love seeing Armand actually happy.

"just as I did, in 1983."

you'd never know my favourite parts of the show are the fucked up insane bits when my first instinct is to draw the cheesiest thing imaginable