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Merry yaoimas and a happy new yuri to you all

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Have not talked to my brother in 8 years because he went down a sad alt-right pipeline but he just gifted me a yaoi game on Steam for Christmas?? lol

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@coldastius and taku slow damage

But that's my emotional support fictional old man

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when you're reading smut and that middle aged man has a little too much stamina

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gulp…. towa from slow damage (FIRST POST👅👅)

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i think 16 yr old towa would play GUITAR!!!

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I love birds with all my soul, although people with wings are pretty good too~

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Night meeting sketch

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They've turned into cute rabbits?!

Back with saradame doodles~ I was planning on posting this way later just incase I was gonna doodle more, but then on second thought nahh... maybe if this gets lots of interactions maybe I'll doodle more? And maybe full Kimika design!

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Preface: dont wanna hurt any feelings! I just wanna chat about this and maybe get people thinking. Nothing is intended to come off as insulting to any fans of either translations/patch.

this is a really interesting read! my friend and I have been trying to unpack the patch discourse as well and I came to a similar conclusion on that familiarity point—it only became a contesting point of perspective once we had JAST’s pov version of the VN first.

I was thinking about a few things. First off—media draws its fan base. And how do the types of fans find, engage, and stick with media? By its content!!

I’ve been wondering maybe that the way JAST translated slow damage attracted an English speaking audience that enjoys what JAST enjoys—and thus, will stand and find unenjoyable the verboseness or whatever else there have been critical thoughts on. I think that essentially people are speaking to each other with such difficulty because, to so many people, the game actually does feels different enough to no longer resonate with what they started with and enjoyed from slow damage (or likely also a lost comfort). This isn’t a bad thing! Just observation/speculation.

I also went to think about how, in the context of gay media, the internet and queer community / people engaging in gay media have a history of being extremely extremely hard and critical on anything queer, by virtue of there being so little queer media to begin with. Its also the difficulty of the protective nature over queer media—because everyone wants what little there is to be represented correctly—and that manifests in very different, opinionated ways for everyone. Sadly, this also has manifested in the queer community ripping itself apart into rags. I’ve seen happen before over many many yaoi mangas/manhwas.

For slow damage, im almost shocked by how angry and accusatory these discussions have gotten. I just don’t think there’s a need to be so hurtful—especially when im seeing many valid points from multiple sides of like and dislike of translations. I also think that… slow damage of all games is so open minded, in how there’s something for everyone in the themes, h scenes, characters, issues, aesthetic, etc. and yet as fans we don’t respect that same idea for each other.

These I've also shared on Twitter, but I thought I'd share them here before someone tries any sort of libel.

You know what's funny about this whole discourse about the Slow Damage patch ? The whole discourse reminds me of game mods, in a way.

Game mods are made by fans, for free no less, for you to download, and only if you wanted, to help improve your experience with a game.

Whether it's improving the aesthetic (character or background design) or tweaking some of the gameplay elements itself. Or adding new elements, or even changing things purely for shits and giggles.

That way, mods are akin to patches. More often than not, mods are made because the base game had flaws in their design (technical or otherwise) that the mod intended to fix or improve.

But these mods are optional. And naturally, most mods are going to use preexisting assets from either the game they're modding or from another game, assets that they'll either refine or combine with other assets to make something better.

While some mods earn a raised brow, if the mod isn't to one's liking, most generally just ignore it.

Except in this specific instance, some don't like the mod that is the patch and feel that it doesn't sit right with them for whatever reason, believing that its existence would be "spitting" on the original game or because it no longer sounds as snarky as they themselves would like to read it as.

But instead of ignoring the patch, which they were explicitly advised to do if they take offense to it, they decide to make their dislike everyone else's problem, and by poisoning the well, no less.

And one quick way to ensure that is to accuse the patch of bigotry towards the LGBT community.

I'm already aware that this same accusation is spreading like wildfire, both in Reddit and especially in Twitter, and in some Discord spaces, most likely.

But did anyone, and this includes the accusers, even play at least 40% of the patched version, and intensively at that, before making that claim?

Oh, I'm all too aware that bigotry is a real, serious and widespread issue.

But in most online circles nowadays, accusing something of bigotry right off the gate is also one surefire method of turning people off of it before they can even check it out for themselves.

I mean, what better way of publicly dragging something you don't like through the mud than to spread accusations/misassumptions that are quick for others to believe before anyone can even try and personally fact-check anything?

Especially in a place like the internet itself.

The note stating the avoidance of using a specific pronoun for some characters to not assume their identity could've been phrased better, yes, and the patch team did clarify their stance on the matter. Alas, anything can still easily be misinterpreted and used as flame bait.

But what's odd is that the people who first touted this claim (either here or in other platforms) have one thing in common: they never checked out the patch (let alone played through one certain route in full) to personally confirm if that really is the case.

Taking all this into consideration, I think that no matter how the patch was presented, it'd get backlash.

Even long before any of us knew this patch was even going to be a thing, even giving constructive criticism about the localization and any mistakes/goofs it made already drew ire, and it's those same people who took offense that are spreading the hate about this patch.

It all really boils down to the matter of the patch even existing, since - as some detractors point out - it's what they call to be a disrespectful spit to the face, even without factoring the false accusations of transphobia and plagiarism.

Let's say they used the JP game files instead and have the patch work with that version. They'd get decried for copyright infringement and they risk a C&D order.

Use the EN files? We already get the claims that they barely did anything to the text, among other things. Why?

Because they didn't adjust every single syntax and change every single word in every single sentence… when English isn't exactly the most versatile language and there's only ways you can translate something, especially in the simpler sentences like "Who are you?".

Using a thesaurus on everything would make it sound weird. Heck, the patch being more verbose and detailed and impersonal (which is what's to be expected when it's third person and in a visual novel, no less) already got it accused of being no more than a fancy MTL.

And it doesn't help that many already assume that the statement that MTL can be a helpful tool is also the same as "MTL being the superior translator of all time", and people will find anything and I mean anything to hate on something and discredit it.

And as for the preferring 1st person over 3rd person and vice versa? It's a matter of preference, yes, and that can't be helped.

But let's get one fact out in the open: Out of N+C's 5 main VNs, only one is told in first person POV in the JP/original version, and that's DMMD.

The other game that used 1st person narration is Slow Damage's spinoff game, Clean Dishes, but not the main/parent game itself.

And even years before they got licensed, the fan patches followed the intended narration viewpoint of the first 4 VNs. Third person for Togainu no Chi, Lamento, and Sweet Pool, and first person for DMMD.

Their respective localized versions (except Lamento), also followed the intended narration viewpoint, and nobody complained because that was all they knew.

But because Slow Damage's localization took the creative liberty of changing the narration from third to first person, with people exposed to it, it's not really surprising some have gotten accustomed enough to end up preferring it.

Even when another version that retells the game in original narration comes up, for the past two years, the localization has been what they knew, and that is what many usually then decide to stick to.

In the scenario where the localization - even if it would still be a mess - never changed the narration, would people still say "Oh but they should've changed it to 1st person since it would've enhanced the story"?

It's telling that it never happened with Togainu no Chi, Sweet Pool and DMMD, no?

And before anyone tells me that I just hate localizations overall, you don't hear me complaining about the official translation of any of the BLVNs that Mangagamer licensed, do you? I also have plenty of gripes with DMMD's fan translation over what it did to Mink.

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Its so cute ars!!! Gahhhhh

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