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The best way to keep lily from hurting any more people is to leave people in her circles alone.

Do not contact, harass or interrogate people who publicly interact with her. It will scare them away from looking at evidence if you immediately begin accusing them of things.

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Personally I see the dead name as a no win situation as if Joon didn't add it, Lily would pull the same stunt and lie about the screenshot where she used her dead name as a user name and she'd find something else to discredit Joon. He does mention the dead name and he's transphobic, even if he only mentions it once and uses the old screen shot.

I would agree, but the thing is lily is a known liar with very little credibility. Even before most of the serious shit came to light, she was not well liked or taken seriously by most people who knew about her that were not children.

Even if lily pulled that, she would just get (rightfully) clowned on.

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Oh boy I sure love that ONCE AGAIN the "community" is excusing and ignoring transphobia because the "good guy" did it.

I have to say, im very disappointed but not surprised by it. I would like to say that i appreciated seeing Ant stick up for trans people. It was a pleasant surprise to see anyone here doing that, really.

Collectively, my inner circle was not happy with the video. Especially after being assured there would be no transphobia and that joon would handle things respectfully.

The thing about trans people who get outed as predators is that we collectively need to sit ourselves down and make sure we are not engaging in transmisogyny in particular.

Lily’s deadname can easily be redacted from the content for the video, while maintaining unedited links to said content with her deadname. Its as easy as opening up with the disclaimer that her deadname is in the files in the description, but you replaced it with her current name for the video. It was not a necessity to keep it, as desperately as some cis people have claimed. Lily Orchard is her legal name, and its the name she would be arrested and charged under if she were to ever face legal repercussions. She has existed online far longer under the name Lily.

And before anyone jumps out of the woodwork or makes assumptions about my beliefs, no, I don’t like lily and I believe she’s done unbelievable amounts of harm. She is dangerous and should not have a platform.

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This feels like your gen X aunt ranting about someone on crack asking for five dollars outside the gas station

Source:

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“I never name search myself!”

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It’s a little depressing how transparent lily’s internalized transmisogyny is. She consistently goes after other women, especially other trans women, on a regular basis.

Misgendering them, accusing them of things they did not do, etc. it’s almost like she doesn’t care about transmisogyny outside of it impacting her personally or something.

Don’t get me wrong, I do think a good chunk of the lily critical community has a transmisogyny problem, but that doesn’t mean that lily is in the right. All it really means is that people are harsher on her than if she were a cis man, or a cis woman.

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Of course Lily would have nothing to say to Rebecca if she met her.

She can whine about Rebecca and SU behind a screen, but she would never have the balls to actually tell it to Rebecca's face.

Lily is the definition of a paper tiger. That’s why she surrounds herself with fawners and people pleasers.

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I feel like Rebecca sugar would say something like “please don’t hurt me” or “stop sending me those emails”

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And this occurred as well, there was just a limit.

This person pretended to be his friend for weeks.

So another account has started running around and harassing my friend, most likely the same person as before based on profile pictures and mannerisms.

She’s trying to pressure a gay man into sexual interactions with her.

After being rejected, she came to me asking me to “put him on blast” for “sexually assaulting her”. All the while calling him the f slur and telling him to hurt himself both through me and his DMs.

Lying about a gay black man assaulting you is disgusting.

Report this account and block.

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So another account has started running around and harassing my friend, most likely the same person as before based on profile pictures and mannerisms.

She’s trying to pressure a gay man into sexual interactions with her.

After being rejected, she came to me asking me to “put him on blast” for “sexually assaulting her”. All the while calling him the f slur and telling him to hurt himself both through me and his DMs.

Lying about a gay black man assaulting you is disgusting.

Report this account and block.

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Kind of silly, but does anyone remember the post lily made about lizzy accidentally kicking pasta sauce on lily as she walked into the living room with it for some reason?

It was worded like:

“I was walking into the living room with a pot of pasta sauce and lizzy was kicking her huge clumsy feet and kicked the pasta sauce all over me!”

I think about it weekly.

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Oh, this breaks my heart. It really is important to recognize the harm of dehumanizing addicts. Speaking as someone who used to cope with harder substances, it’s telling how a person treats addiction and addicts.

I’ve been saying this for a while. Whether Courtney engages with hard substances or not, that doesn’t matter. It is not a moral failing, but rather an indicator of something going on below the surface.

Lily Orchard's View on Drug Addicts is Backwards

Lily is using her sister being a drug addict to discount her. But honestly that's makes her more credible. I use to hang in drug circles for reasons I don't think are important. But I was in them. And almost every female in drug circles has experience in being molested/raped/violated especially as young girls. One addict I remember saying she would dream about her dad raping her and she did crack so she didn't have to sleep/can forget about it. She was thrown out at ten because "her mom was jealous her husband was ""having sex""" with their ten year old daughter and not her." So this isn't the burn Lily thinks it is. If her sister is a raging drug addict then she probably has something tramadic happen. As very rarely did I meet an addict of any gender that came from a loving and supportive home that didn't have some kind of trama happen behind closed door. I knew this guy who was adopted into a loving home with parents who still support him no matter how much he hurts them. But his baggage is he was a product of a gang rape of a teenage drug addict mother. His mother did drugs her whole pregnancy. He went down hill after finding his birth mother who originally wanting nothing to do with him and told him how he came to be. He came from the best home I can think of. But looking behind the outer layers. You see someone who was born addicted to Opeits and had his world shattered after finding out why he existed.

It's gross to try and use being a drug addict to treat someone like shit and discredit them. They are broken people who need help. Help a normal person can't provide they need professional help by the way. Lily honestly sounds like a conservative with this view. Pick 5 random biographies written by female addicts and half of them will probably have a story of sexual abuse.

From what I understand Courtney only does weed and cigarettes now. And these two things are no wear near heroin you Regan propaganda pusher.

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Um.....scuse? Where the hell did Courtney get all THIS from??? Sure as shit couldn't have been from Lily, considering-

I'm just gonna let Ink's response speak for itself.

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..I really hope Lily stays away from Precure from now on, and just magical girls in general. The last thing the mg community needs is someone like her starting drama, especially since we’ve got so many shows coming this season…stay away from magical girls Lily 😓.

(Also off-topic but your posts are great)

Im not super into the genre myself, but all of y’all seem like a pretty wholesome bunch and it would definitely be less fun for everybody if she got involved.

She’s like an elephant’s foot for fandoms.

Also, I appreciate it!

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Here’s a little secret: mandatory reporters frequently don’t report things. And often times, when they do, social workers don’t do Jack shit.

Look at that, another instance of Lily’s brother misgendering her, right under Courtney’s very public yt video, only four months ago.

(The comment has since been deleted, but you can still find Courtney’s and others replies to it.)

But he definitely respects your gender identity and is an okay guy, right Lily?

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Can I say I hate Lily Orchard as both a human being with morals and an SU fan? Please, don't be hard on me.

Not only did she poison the well of media discourse, lying about (what I consider) a beautiful piece of hopepunk, thinking it was meant to be some Star Wars-esque rebel vs empire action-adventure when it was only ever about love and acceptance, and personally attacking the queer, Jewish creator as a "creep", "disease" and "closeted Neo-Nazi" while also befriending an actual Neo-Nazi but she sexually abused her sister when they were children, wrote graphic fanfiction boasting about said abuse and preyed on her former friends. Even worse, she is now trying to normalize incest while letting predators target vulnerable minors in her audience.

She is both horrible hack of a "critic" and an evil, disgusting human being. Even she didn't mention and take a dump on my favourite pieces of media (the examples are too numerous, I'd be here all day ranting about her steaming garbage hot takes), I'd still fight to get her deplatformed ASAP so can't hurt anymore people.

Thank you.

Yeah but that’s too nuanced for my shitpost poll lol.

The way she talks about Rebecca sugar gives me the creeps. Trying to frame a Jewish person as predatory with zero evidence is antisemitic. But supposedly, it’s transphobic to point out things she’s actually done. Curious. It’s almost like her posts about Jewish people with the cutesy infographics are performative.

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Curious question: lily says we all hate her because of the SU vid. How many of you hate lily because she “doesn’t like Steven universe” as opposed to her caustic behavior and of course the allegations? Show of hands everybody.

Me personally idgaf what someone thinks about Steven universe. It was just okay.