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don't you think the ghostflower age gap is problematic

Gwen is 16 and Miles is 15 how is that age gap problematic at all--?

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When you really wanna get off the phone with your relative:

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The class prez and jock aren't so different after all.

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"I swear I tried to find you." 🥺💔

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I hate people who headcanon Kaitlyn as lesbian just to get her "out of the way" of Ryan x Dylan.

One, that is such disrespect to lesbians. You clearly don't care about them at all or want to give them representation through Kaitlyn's character, you just throw "lesbian" onto her because it easily gets her out of the way.

And two, Kaitlyn literally doesn't need to be lesbian for you to ship Rylan. You can only get Ryan closer to Dylan anyway, so it's very easy to say he just likes Dylan better. And even if Ryan and Dylan literally had no scenes together, you do not need to slap a sexuality onto a character to excuse yourself shipping them. Just ship them! It's literally that simple. Don't like Ryan x Kaitlyn? Don't ship them! It's literally that simple.

I've literally seen people attacking others who like Ryan x Kaitlyn or don't like Ryan x Dylan with "well, Kaitlyn is lesbian so that ship can't happen/Rylan is canon." Like um, no? Kaitlyn is not lesbian and even if she was, that doesn't make any other ship canon. Again, just don't ship it and let other people ship whatever they want. Stop forcing your headcanons onto the entire community.

These people are literally shipping a gay ship while simultaneously shitting on lesbians. It just boggles my mind. And then they always headcanon or write Dylan as a "dumb twink" as well. Like okay, you seem to know literally nothing about gay people and do not actually care about them at all. I swear these people must be fujoshis.

By the way, I also have no problem with people who headcanon Kaitlyn as lesbian when it's not to do this. Although she canonically has feelings for Ryan so I think it'd be better to make her bisexual, I see some people make Kaitlyn lesbian because they themselves are lesbian and see themselves in Kaitlyn. And Kaitlyn does give off lesbian vibes, to be honest.

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#jossam: "And I'm hating myself 'cause you don't want to, admit that it hurts you, baby" (edit is not mine. all credit to exiledagp)

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This post is not about The Quarry as a game, it just heavily involves The Quarry fandom, and mostly things about my personal life, so if you're not interested, please just keep scrolling.

This is just something I had to get off of my chest as it has been weighing on me and bothering me for months now. I felt the need to explain myself in full detail, and trust me, I have contemplated not posting this at all because it should be unnecessary, but I feel as if I was backed into a corner and forced to "play my hand" unfortunately. I'm only tagging The Quarry because this is the community where the harassment has been taking place.

A few months ago, I was attacked by a lot of other members of the community, they called me several names and slurs, but here I'm specifically addressing that they called me homophobic and transphobic. This is honestly laughable to me as far before any of this happened, I openly supported LGBTQ+ people frequently on my blog, in part because I am literally one of them.

It hurt me deeply to be called such things because I personally know the struggles of homophobia and transphobia. To this day, I struggle with my sexuality. In the past, I've considered myself straight, gay, bisexual, and asexual. It has been a journey I'm going through since I was 13 years old. I'm not really a fan of labels in general, but currently I consider myself as Questioning.

There was a 2 year period in my life where I identified as trans masculine, and then a two year period where I identified as nonbinary as well. I'm more comfortable in my own skin now, but this was a major struggle for me in my teen years. My family even sat me down for conversion therapy for both my sexuality and my gender identity. It was a traumatic and harrowing experience for me, as I'm sure a lot of us can relate to.

Point being, in no way am I homophobic or transphobic. Like I said, that is simply laughable. And it's also infuriating. The fact that strangers can make these assumptions about me and call me these names based on one singular post I made on this website is beyond my comprehension.

I usually don't care about fanbase drama or disagreements or whatever, but when it attacks my personal character and the very real and difficult experiences I went through, that's when I draw the line. And to this day, there are still people in this community who are attacking me for this. I just block these people and don't engage at this point, but it's gone too far and I feel the need to defend myself. This is literally my coming out story, and I find it disappointing and depressing that it had to be in this manner. But whatever. I felt the need to tell my truth and share my experiences. I somehow doubt the bullying will stop even now, but hopefully some people in the community will understand where I'm coming from and understand me more as a person.

I know this is a pretty crappy post. I didn't really know how to express myself. I've never talked about this publicly before; I've never talked about it with more than four people before. And I've been consider posting this for months and I kept changing my mind because I figured I shouldn't have to be forced out of the closet just to try to stop internet strangers from attacking me on a daily basis, but here we are. I might delete this post later anyway. I don't know yet. But yeah.

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the until dawn/the quarry fandom rlly cannot draw asian people woah

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You and your friend laughing at the dumbest thing ever:

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Big-eyed girls, part 1

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Big-eyed boys, part 1

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The Quarry and queer-baiting, part 2, AKA things I forgot to mention the first time and it was so much I might as well just make another part

See the first part here (it makes more sense to read this first if you haven't already)

On the topic of there being some underlying feelings between Abi and Emma, after they return from their little ride and Nick asks where they've been, Emma mischievously answers, "Wouldn't you like to know," which causes an annoyed Abi to inject "Ignore her, please!" Maybe it's just me, but I swore that was Emma alluding/joking about her and Abi having some kind of romantic getaway in the woods. And maybe Abi got annoyed because she said this in front of Nick, who she's crushing on, and didn't want him to think there was something going on between her and Emma already; little did she know her repressed feelings for Emma would come out in full later on in the game. Maybe I'm reaching as far as the eye can see with this one, but that was just my interpretation from the scene.

Back to the Laura/Max/Ryan/Dylan/Kaitlyn chain, I can actually make a bit of a comparison between how they treat the straight couple of Abi and Nick and how they treat the gay couple of Ryan and Dylan. A lot of people say that Ryan seems uninterested in Dylan (and everybody else), but people always point out the "Ryan seems interested" pop-up when Dylan is teasing about asking him out on a date. I mean, that should be game, set, and match for Rylan, but apparently not... I'd like to point out that when Abi and Nick kiss, the pop-up very directly says "Nick is falling for you." Not "he seems to be falling for" or anything like that, he very matter of factly IS falling for you. Whereas Ryan only "seems" interested. Again, it gives me queer-baiting vibes, as the game is very straightforward with explaining the state of the straight couple to you, but then it only gives you all these mixed signals and unclear crumbs for the gay couple. Not to mention, from my playthroughs and watchthroughs, it's much harder to get the "Ryan seems interested" pop-up than the "Nick is falling for you" pop-up as well. It's like they shove these things in your face on purpose yet make it extremely difficult to actually get at the same time.

Some people do like to argue that the "Ryan seems interested" pop-up is just from Dylan's perspective and probably not true, but that seems like a bit of a reach to me. I really don't think the pop-ups are supposed to be from the characters' perspectives, I think they're just supposed to give the player some insight and foreshadowing. For instance, "Travis will kill you." There's literally zero reason for Laura to assume and know that Travis will indeed kill her later, so it really doesn't make sense for that pop-up to be from her perspective. So I think that's a pretty weak defense for the Rylan antis. However, even if you get the "Ryan seems interested," pop-up, the firepit kiss, and every other positive thing about Ryan and Dylan's relationship, when talking to Laura later, Ryan can still always say his "maybe neither" line. So... you got me.

And yes, he doesn't always say the "maybe neither" line, but I also think that's a weak defense for the Lyan antis. I kind of doubt that Ryan only developed feelings for Laura during that very conversation itself. Even if he doesn't say that line/have that conversation, it doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings for her. Again, I don't think that conversation itself is what made him fall for her. Although, to be completely fair, it's not like they have very many positive experiences with each other prior to that moment, but Dylan and Kaitlyn insist on the sexy sparks, so... I don't know. I think the whole thing is rushed and Ryan really needed more time/positive moments with Laura before he started crushing, but I digress. The game's pacing can be extremely wonky at the times and I guess they worked with what they had...

Another defense people have for Ryan seeming uninterested in Dylan at times is that he's autistic. And while I 100% believe this and headcanon it myself, I don't believe this is ever stated directly in the game, so again, it's a bit of a weak defense. Please correct me if I'm wrong, though. Either way, it's obvious that Ryan is socially awkward and has a hard time communicating his thoughts and feelings with everyone. But people saying he's autistic and that's the reason he's unclear with Dylan as a fact is a bit weird to me because, as far as I know, it's not true/confirmed. But again, correct me if I'm wrong. Although, either way, it's not just his relationship with Dylan that's affected by this, it's his relationship with literally everyone. Dylan, Kaitlyn, Laura, Chris, Jacob, Emma, literally everyone he communicates with, and that is pretty clear. So it's not something that can just be applied to Dylan either way. This is more of a fanbase thing than an actual game thing, but I felt it worth pointing out because I see it a lot.

I believe I mentioned in my previous post about this that I feel the biggest Rylan scene, even more than their kiss because it was partially forced by Emma, is their conversation on their way to the radio hut, because for once Ryan seems 100% interested in Dylan and what he has to say. However, I believe this conversation wasn't included in the original version of the game, you could only get it from the pausing glitch. I could be mistaken, but I remember all those pause glitch videos from back when the game first came out and that they were considered these secret or removed dialogues and that Miles Robbins even alluded to it himself. So... there goes the biggest Rylan moment. The developers deliberately cut this moment out. It's literally like they fear actually pleasing the LGBTQ+ with the content they themselves created. I imagine they decided to add this scene back in the DLC due to the popularity of the ship, but still.

Another thing that's brought up constantly is the camera angles between the Ryan and Dylan kiss and the Ryan and Kaitlyn kiss. The straight couple, Ryka, gets a close-up zoom-in of their kiss. But the gay couple, Rylan, only gets the faraway shot. Seriously, what is the reason for this besides to annoy/disappoint the LGBTQ+ audience? Again, it's like they do this stuff on purpose. On a similar note, if you kiss Kaitlyn, you'll get the pop-up "Dylan seems a little disappointed." But if you kiss Dylan, it won't say anything about Kaitlyn. So this would seem to emphasize that Dylan might actually like Ryan a little more than Kaitlyn does. Or maybe he just takes rejection harder, who knows. But I thought it was something worth pointing out.

I'd also like to bring up the huge missed opportunity during Dylan and Kaitlyn's conversation on their way to the scrapyard. They joke that they finally found out Ryan's type, and that it's "pirates," because Laura is heroic and has an eyepatch. But literally two seconds ago, Kaitlyn is making a joke that they'll attach a hook to Dylan's hand and call him "Hooky McHook Face." You know... like a pirate?? I get that you wouldn't always get this opportunity given you can choose not to cut Dylan's hand off, but come on now. They make such a huge point out of it if you do, including in this very same conversation about the pirates, so why did they not add something here? Kaitlyn could literally just have one little line like, "Well then, maybe you do still have a chance after all," and Dylan could let out a small laugh or something. I mean, maybe they just didn't think of the idea. Maybe they thought it'd be insensitive for Kaitlyn to keep joking about it. I don't know. I just think it's a missed opportunity.

Another thing I theorized about is if the writers intended to pull the trope of "the rejected love interests wind up together" and pair Dylan and Kaitlyn up together; Ryan goes off with Laura and then Dylan and Kaitlyn are the duo now opposed to Dylan and Ryan. But, correct me if I'm wrong, the developers confirmed that Dylan is gay so... can't be that either. Regardless, I do know some people still ship them together. What is there ship name? Do they even have one? I'm calling it LynLan until further notice.

Lastly, as I said before, this post isn't intended to insult any ships, characters, or shippers mentioned. I just wanted to give the facts and also explain some of my personal opinions. At the end of the day, there's actually no endgame ships in The Quarry, which I guess is a good thing? Every shipper can enjoy whatever they want since we get no aftermath and they left it open anyway. It's totally okay to ship non-canon/non-confirmed ships, trust me, I've been there.

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I was gonna add "Bemo" by Quankk to the Songs About Jacob playlist but it wasn't on Spotify... 😢

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I just noticed that in the Until Dawn remaster, you can actually see/hear Emily's leg get caught on the firetower wire after she falls. Nice little detail.

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FINALLY CHRIS TALKING ABOUT ASHLEY IN THE POLICE INTERVIEWS

Honestly one of my biggest disappointments in the game is that Chris never talks about Ashley in the police interviews no matter what outcomes you get. There was definitely something missing there. I wish they could have still worked it in somehow...

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Awww, Mike being protective over Wolfie... Poor guy lost his best friend.