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Thinking about Edward bpd splitting about Batman after the events of the movie, so the next time that Batman comes to see him, he is incredibly unwilling to help. He's sullen and upset, completely switching in his views on Batman because he knows deep down he'll never love him. No one ever will.

And then there's Joker, whose saying all the right things at a time where Edward is more vulnerable than usual. It's easy for him to slot Joker in, where Batman failed.

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Riddler: Year One

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this is actually even more interesting because in the script book he stabs it in his neck. so somewhere between the original script and the final shooting script they changed it and they must have been thinking some of these same things about it

You know what I'm still thinking about? The scene in The Batman 2022 when he's down and out and his ears are ringing and he just got shot in the goddamn chest point blank and freaking flew for hot second there, after all that, when he stabs himself with that maybe-venom-maybe-home-made-adrenaline-concoction-maybe-tube-of-green-something and gets his power up moment of incandescent rage blah blah y'know the moment when that happens, the little hole, that specific spot, in his suit is there - like, built into the suit, ready to pop open, ready and raring to go, already there! Having the stuff on you is one thing, but having a specific spot in the suit to put it to get direct access? That's preplanning and prepping with a level of intent, of not just having it to use in an emergency but the actual using it, the knowing where to - I just - I'm not even coherent about this godsdangit my brain is running a mile a minute truly - How often has he done this? How long did it take for him to build a specific spot in the suit for just this kind of event? How many times has our boy been out of his mind with pain and made himself give that one more push? Is it addictive? Does he ever want to do it on quiet nights? When there's no reason to? Does he ever get into too big of a fight on purpose so he has a reason to use it? Or is he scared of it? Does he avoid it the best he can? Is it really a desperate last hope only kind of thing? How often is he getting hurt so bad that this is something he's ready for? That little ready made circle is haunting me - he was ready for this; and yeah for any other version of batman maybe it wouldn't be on my mind so much (it's a plan and he's batman) but this one's a baby, he's only been out a couple years and yet and yet he was ready for this, why?

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The Batman (2022) dir. Matt Reeves

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in The Batman (2022) the riddler livestreams a knockoff saw trap where a guy has to answer three riddles in two minutes or his head gets blown off by a bomb collar and this particular message in his stream chat appears less than a second before the bomb goes off and I can't get over it im dying

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2022 Batcat has very strong "I can fix him" vibes but I'm gonna be honest here I don't think he deserves her. Not rn at least cause Selina is 100% the most emotionally mature & responsible person in the entire movie with only like. Alfred & Ms. Reál behind her. & Bruce is literally a BRAT, he's insanely sheltered, ignorant and selfish through most of the movie and starts only becoming more aware of, like, everything? towards the end. There is a LOT of work 2 be done there & Selina's already dealing w/ enough shit on her own to be worrying about a grown man in a batsuit.

Also I do think it's interesting how the two main ships 2 come out of this movie (Riddlebat & Batcat) run in completely opposite directions. Selina could "fix" Bruce, but Bruce and Edward could only make each other worse.

Selina might've had her mom til she was 7 (iirc) & her piece of shit dad only dies after she's into her (mid?) 20s, but she DOES have a similar background to Edward's in that they both grew up without a stable, "normal" family, and had a very poor economic situation their whole lives. I do want to know more about her past REAL BAD cause we got the Year One comics for Edward that let us know he'd been bullied his whole life besides also growing up in the orphanage which was just... not ideal to say the least, but we still don't know much (or AS much) about Selina.

From what we see in the movie I think it's pretty obvious that Selina had to "toughen up" from a very young age: she knows how to handle herself, how to protect herself, and tries her best to do the same for those she cares about. The grudge she holds against Falcone is absolutely justified, and so is the fact that she all but jumps onto the one chance she had to kill him.

(Sidenote: I do like how Bruce's reasoning went from "You'll be just like him" (most sheltered statement ever) to "You've paid enough" (makes more sense and ACTUALLY shows some care for her as a person rather than for some broad, flimsy sense of justice.))

But on Edward's side, we have the fact that he never had someone in particular to direct all of his rage and despair to, leading him to hate and berate himself. Once he learned there WAS a reason that caused his life to be so horrible, rather than some divine, nonsensical punishment aimed towards him specifically, his hatred turned outwards into a far more broad direction than Selina's, causing him to all but lose his mind and start planning.

Selina is aware of the corruption in Gotham, but she doesn't have the detailed knowledge that Edward has (due to his job giving him the chance to find out), and still says at one point that she agrees with what Edward is doing (even if nothing is mentioned about the *way* he's doing it), which to me means that she's the kind of person who's just trying to survive and is just not able to fully dedicate herself to making a change and has become disillusioned with the city as a whole, which is evident during the talk she has with Bruce before they go their separate ways.

She HAS things to care about, and this sounds rude because I really don't know how else to put it, but she also has "a life" unlike Edward, who is always alone, chasing a purpose that only destroys him in the end. Him being ND plays a huge part in this; his already lacking social skills are only made worse by his environment, making his chronic loneliness straight up DEADLY.

I feel like I'm talking in circles BUT what I really mean is that I think the difference between Edward and Selina boils down to their ability to form relationships. Edward has been unable to do so his whole life, making him spiral, but Selina IS able to connect with others, and this "saves" her in a way. It gives her concrete goals and, more importantly, reasons to live, while also being the cause of her overall maturity and ability to go through tough times (because they WERE), and still not lose sight of herself.

Bruce and Edward both grew up lonely. Bruce because of his trauma*, and Edward because of his neurodivergency. Selina, on the other hand, shows MUCH better social skills and adjustment than both of them throughout the movie (I do think she had to grow up way too fast to survive, when she shouldn't have had to).

I just realized this post is long as fuuuck and borderline incomprehensible and I don't even know how 2 end it I'm sorry everyone.... I'm just spinning them around inside my head.

Also I just gotta say I think her and Edward could've been really good friends if they met as children, but that's another thing & also just a headcanon. But yeah. Let her catch a break. Basically.

*: I do think there's a strong argument you could make for Bruce being ND as well, but I'm also factoring in his economic status since it would've allowed him to receive help/therapy for improving his social skills while Edward never had that option.

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You know what I'm still thinking about? The scene in The Batman 2022 when he's down and out and his ears are ringing and he just got shot in the goddamn chest point blank and freaking flew for hot second there, after all that, when he stabs himself with that maybe-venom-maybe-home-made-adrenaline-concoction-maybe-tube-of-green-something and gets his power up moment of incandescent rage blah blah y'know the moment when that happens, the little hole, that specific spot, in his suit is there - like, built into the suit, ready to pop open, ready and raring to go, already there! Having the stuff on you is one thing, but having a specific spot in the suit to put it to get direct access? That's preplanning and prepping with a level of intent, of not just having it to use in an emergency but the actual using it, the knowing where to - I just - I'm not even coherent about this godsdangit my brain is running a mile a minute truly - How often has he done this? How long did it take for him to build a specific spot in the suit for just this kind of event? How many times has our boy been out of his mind with pain and made himself give that one more push? Is it addictive? Does he ever want to do it on quiet nights? When there's no reason to? Does he ever get into too big of a fight on purpose so he has a reason to use it? Or is he scared of it? Does he avoid it the best he can? Is it really a desperate last hope only kind of thing? How often is he getting hurt so bad that this is something he's ready for? That little ready made circle is haunting me - he was ready for this; and yeah for any other version of batman maybe it wouldn't be on my mind so much (it's a plan and he's batman) but this one's a baby, he's only been out a couple years and yet and yet he was ready for this, why?

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to the bat

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Paul Dano as Edward Nashton/The Riddler 01/?

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Do you like Edward Nasthon b/c Paul Dano is hot or because you like the idea of having somebody with no previous romantic or sexual experience become devoted and obsessed with you because they don't know any better so that you'll receive constant validation in a unhealthy loop where neither of you are challenged to do better, you just stay together forever and learn to love the worst parts of each other. Answer quickly.

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this guy was me actually

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playing dress-up

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request: eddie stimming with a fidget toy ‼️

a rubik’s cube counts as a stimtoy right? i felt like it suited him best ^_^

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redid an old piece of the riddle guy

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matt reeves if you can hear me — cast zoe kazan as scarecrow in your movies.

this mf is already unbearable ( affectionate )

imagine how much worse he would get once he got a gf who matches his freak

the sad girl psychiatrist to bad bitch with fear gas pipeline is strong

husband and wife irl being husband and wife in fiction. make it happen, reeves.

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i rewatched it