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the rani seeing faction paradox’s bone ships and being like 👀 okayyyyy i might steal that
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One of my favorite parts of the wilderness years has got to be the fact that the writers looked at the time lords and went ‘they could be weirder and worse’ and then proceeded to come up with some insane concepts, most of which sadly did not make their way into new who
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genuinely faction paradox has like such a specific degree of separation from doctor who in the funniest way possible because it just goes, "well they would get mad at us for using this character. but heres the thing if we use a different name for that character they will NEVER KNOW," like at all times. And it works
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Who else is ready for Wilderness Era 2: The Wasteland Era?
I think one of the main reasons Doctor Who has so many spin-offs is because the BBC did (or still does idk) give writers copyright to their creations, hence why spinoffs can be made and the BBC doesnt have any say in it despite the connection to Dr.Who or at least that's my understanding of it.
I completely agree: this was definitely the case for “classic” Doctor Who, at least. Unfortunately, I have reason to believe that this is no longer the case with NuWho: I was recently in touch with the creator of the Absorbaloff, and he said that, if authors create original monsters or concepts for a NuWho story, they’re not able to use or license them for anything else without the BBC signing off.
It makes me sad that, should Doctor Who be cancelled sometime in the future, there’ll be an absolute dearth of NuWho spinoffs: some of the funnest parts of the (first) Wilderness Era were BBV’s individually-licensed Zygon and Auton homevids, but we won’t be able to get the same thing with the Krillitane or the Janus. It makes me worried about the franchise’s long-term future.
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375 pages?!?
Introduction - Stephen Cole
Took My Shoes From San Francisco - Steve Cole
Harmony Pines - Johnstone J. McGuckian
Trespassers Will Be Executed - John Peel
Whoops - Gary Russell
The Ghost - Steve Lyons
Knocky Nine Doors - Ian Hayles
Do I Have To Do This All Over Again - Jon Blum
The Besheshra Bash - Nick Walters
Doctor Who and the Clash of Cultures - Simon Bucher-Jones
The Hearts of Cherysa - Reecy Pontiff
Other Half - Philip Purser-Hallard
5 Pointed Star - Steffan Alun
Firebright - Mags L Halliday
Memory Tide - Jamie Griffiths
Time & the Anji - Colin Brake
We Did the Mash, we did the Hamster Mash - Andrew Hunt
The Man Who Could Not Shiver - Rylan Cavell
On Acceptance - Dale Smith
Middle Eight - Mark Griffiths
The Flame War - Jonathan Morris
Things Will Change - Paul Magrs
Samantha Jones…Faction Paradox…the Amnesiac Doctor…Sabbath…Iris Wildthyme…Compassion…President Romana…
Come with us, back to 1998, to the decadent fin-de-siecle – where there’s a marvellous party and further new adventures still going on… Meet old friends and new in this treasury of tales celebrating the most fun and joyful of all the Doctors Who.
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Eighth Doctor Adventures fans! @obversebooks are publishing a charity anthology of EDA tie-in stories, with contributions from Steve Cole, Paul Magrs, Philip Purser-Hallard, Jon Blum, Mags L. Halliday, Jonathan Morris and more!
Pre-orders are up, publication is late August.
#can't wait!#eighth doctor#eighth doctor adventures#doctor who#faction paradox#obverse books#iris wildthyme#fitz kreiner#sam jones
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From "Did Rassilon Know Omega?" in About Time 4 by Lawrence Miles and Tat Wood:
In “The Three Doctors” (10.1) we learn that long, long ago a great engineer called Omega journeyed into a black hole and never returned, but through his efforts made Time Lord civilisation possible. In “The Deadly Assassin” we learn that long, long ago a great engineer called Rassilon journeyed into a black hole but did return, and through his efforts made Time Lord civilisation possible. You can see the problem here. As we’ve already established, “continuity” didn’t exist in the 1970s, at least not in the modern, post-home-video sense of the word. Throughout Doctor Who there are running themes, ongoing concerns and recurring images. Many of the people who wrote it had read the same literature, or been introduced to it by hard-hearted script editors. So there’s a sense of the programme holding together, but… nobody ever went back to check the details. Did Robert Holmes even remember “The Three Doctors” when he wrote “The Deadly Assassin”? He certainly got the “black hole” bit right, but the Heroes of Ancient Gallifrey don’t match. Everybody born after a certain date (and extensive research hasn’t yet confirmed what this date is) makes the same assumption: that Omega and Rassilon were contemporaries, that Rassilon finished the work Omega started, and that at some point they must surely have collaborated. Yet this is never stated anywhere in the series. Rather, it’s a view which started to become “concrete” in the minds of fans in the early ’80s, largely thanks to Doctor Who Magazine. When a confused reader wrote into DWM’s “Matrix Data Bank” column, and asked for an explanation as to how Omega and Rassilon could both have the same sort of mythic status in Time Lord history, the reply seemed reasonable. Omega was the hands-on engineer, whereas Rassilon was more of an aristocratic, organising-principle type. […] In both “The Three Doctors” and “The Deadly Assassin”, the ancient-Time-Lord-in-question is presented as an iconic figure, but neither Omega nor Rassilon is considered to be of great importance to modern Gallifrey. Rassilon isn’t treated as the great demiurge of Time Lord civilisation in “Assassin”; Co-Ordinator Engin believes that very few people care about the Old Time. Symbolically, at this stage Omega and Rassilon might as well be one and the same, even if one got out of the hole and the other didn’t. In a way it’s a pity that both of them had to turn up on our screens, in person, in 1983. Up until then the writers could justifiably have claimed that they were two different names for the same individual, and that the Time Lords had just got their history a bit muddled.
Perhaps important background to understand the Faction Paradox series' reinterpretation of the Founder(s) as "Urizen" …
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Hey, so remember my discussion of the "blue/red past/future" Doppler effect thing that we see in the RTD era (and arguably early Moffat era) time vortex and how a similar reference appears in Lungbarrow of all places (and how it can potentially link the Gate of the Past/Future to the Untempered Schism)?
Today I learned that an even more explicit example appears in The Infinity Doctors:
The Magistrate hesitated, perhaps because he realised that he could see the Station in which he was standing on the display, a tiny mote surrounded by raging energies. The history of the universe was represented by a long, spiralling line running up the screen. The past was marked in blue, the present and known future in green, the unknown in red. At this scale, the blue could hardly be seen, the green didn’t even register, and the red line accounted for over ninety‐nine percent of the total length. ‘Time moves in circles,’ the President noted. It was an old Gallifreyan proverb, one that was literally and metaphorically true. The display showed the time spiral, the map of time. Usually, the Time Lords only concerned themselves with the first few hundred coils of the helix.
Granted, this may just be a scientific display, but the implications are pretty wild. We've known for some time that Gallifrey's lording over time typically only extends so far (see noospheres, Utopia etc.), so the idea of an "unknown" future isn't that surprising.
But it's pretty notable that in seeing the time vortex in the new series, while we do see bits of green in the mix of red, it's less a single length of the vortex fully understood by the Time Lords and more just scattered remnants among the unknown.
Really just further sells the idea that the Time Lords' control of history / the Web of Time was completely shattered across the War in Heaven and Time War, the green being all that was left unaltered, which much more of the universe's future history now being up in the air and open to change.
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i think i might be giving my sister a skewed idea of what actually goes on in dr who
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Chibnall confirmed the kid on the cliff playing with the Doctor as children was indeed the Master and now life is good again and at the same time I feel sick I need a moment
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faction paradox comic / manga idea and notes
I had this idea since ages about making a comic using only the puns and word play from Book of the War
Basic plot is faction sibling has a macguffin and is chased by a nechronomancer and finally trapped by the sibling cuz turns out the parablox was used to cage an anarchitect
By that point i already ran out of puns, so i took some from "The Infinity Doctors" (Librarinth is actually in the Needle and not the BotW Labyrinth) and Iris Wildthyme (although Omnibus probably isnt a pun - also an underground train wagon is easier to fold into itself moebius style)
Terroriums are my own little pun from another worldbuilding thing of mine
I also wanted the MacGuffin to be called Chronolock or "Angel's Tear" but that and having biodata tattoos turn into shadow creatures is just lifted from Face The Raven (Series 9 of Doctor Who)
Also no idea on the design aspect, FP comics should look "grimdark"?
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Did you know the BBC wanted a young Doctor spin-off, but the Doctor Who production office shut it down, so all the ideas for it became the CBBC show Leonardo?
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You want a Deca spinoff? We’ve had one all along!!
It’s well-known that CBBC had planned a young Doctor spin-off before they commissioned The Sarah Jane Adventures. As RTD put it in The Inside Story (2006), “Children’s BBC approached us. They wanted to do a drama based around the idea of a young Doctor Who, but I said no to that. Somehow the idea of a fourteen-year-old Doctor, on Gallifrey inventing sonic screwdrivers, takes away from the mystery and intrigue of who he is and where he came from. So instead I suggested doing a series with Sarah Jane Smith, because she’d been so popular in School Reunion.”
But is it possible that CBBC didn’t throw out the idea, and “a fourteen-year-old Doctor on Gallifrey inventing sonic screwdrivers” became “a fourteen-year-old Leondardo da Vinci in 15th century Florence inventing new futuristic technologies”? Many thanks to my friend Poseidome for pointing me to this connection, which came from the same rumorhound who told me about the Dalek rights situation and abortive BritBox reshoot plans:
Leonardo is what the young Doctor spin off was going to be. “Fantastico!” as his catchphrase. The series would follow the Doctor, Master, Rani, and friends uncovering a conspiracy within the Academy and Time Lord society. The Doctor and the eventual renegades at the heart of it all. The Doctor’s ideas being stolen, his future has been foreseen, Time Lords trying to stop it, etc. All that kind of stuff. There’s even a Borusa stand-in played by Alistair McGowan!
(More under the cut…)
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I'm low-key sad the Faction Paradox Protocols can never be seen on screen. Don't get me wrong, I think the audios are great, but I feel like since they do so much fighting and action, it would actually be so unbelivably cool to be able to see it.
Especially with all of the concepts they are introducing. Like hello?? I wanna see shadow weapons, please. I know technically there's not that much to see, but then again, I think there would be more than enough ways to portray them interesting, even if it involves a lot of dramatic lighting.
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Forever in love with the Idea that Romana, the Master and Morbius are all Cousins. Like House Dvora is just a wild house to be growing up with for Romana as she has to watch on the news every time her evil Cousin who ran away before she was loomed/born has blown up another planet and is having a weird relationship with the the Grandfather Paradox’s Cousin. No wonder she was so fascinated by the Doctor and as much about them as she did.
But Growing up In The Shadow of Morbius. The Imperator. The Master clearly took influence from him whilst Romana no matter how much tried always needed up back in politics driving her towards a dictatorship of her own and a war of her own. She is not just the Legacy of Pandora but also the Legacy of Morbius, Imperator and Imperatrix in one.
How do you think she felt when during the War she took the title of War Queen just as her older cousin take the turtle of War King.
Forever destined to follow her family into the void.
Romana fears to return to Gallifrey lest she become dictator and what does she do when she returns? Become dictator.
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Do you have any theories surrounding Lolita (the type 101 tardis)?
Lolita is a place where the line between "theory" and "just taking what gets said at face value" is a little fuzzy, so not entirely sure how to answer this.
Lolita is The War King's first Tardis, and if the War King is the Master, then that makes her the Master's first Tardis - which would be the Tardis he lost on Terserus during the events of The Two Masters, just before The Deadly Assassin. He's using Goth's Tardis after that for the rest of the classic series.
Lolita isn't related to any of the other humanoid Tardises - those were created and then retroacted into Gallifrey's history by Compassion - and is functionally a random element in the War.
I don't think Lolita is the Enemy. (I personally think the Enemy isn't of Gallifreyan origin at all, but that's another story), I just think she's a very dangerous rouge element early on in the War.
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Issue 2 is here!
This time we have an accessible pdf, so hopefully that'll work for everyone! Let us know what you think of this issue. We've already started planning the third one...
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