"I only understand love and liberty" // a Les Mis sideblog: lots of valvert, meta, and me yelling about my feelings // mainblog @transfemmbeatrice // icon by @muiromem
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Inspired by this Dracula poll.
#EXTREMELY DIFFICULT#i went with omitting fantine’s sex work bc it feels so like they’re ~sanitizing the story#when the harshness of poverty is one of the main points of the story#and the symbolism of her selling her body#and that hugo very pointedly describes her as pure and motherly and Good#despite doing something people see as degrading and evil#making javert the one bad apple was a close second#he wasn’t! he was like. the one good apple in that he was incorruptible#followed the rules to the letter in a way no one else did#and it turns out the rules and the system are horrific and cruel and that’s why he was#YOURE MISSING THE POINT SO BADDDDD#unfatherly feelings is terrible in a much simpler way#if you have the most bad faith reading imaginable of the brick you could say#there’s evidence to support that but like cmon. no there isn’t.#not only is it Incorrect it’s not even thematically interesting#i don’t mind a more aggressive valjean tbh#most adaptations make him Too Nice (bring him home i’m looking at you)#i think it COULD be interesting but probably wasn’t
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Jean Valjean in the first chapters of Les Mis is really serving that “woman in a mobile game ad” energy. It makes you expect to see two buttons that say “HELP HER” and “DIVORCE”
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Les Mis 2012 memes I made years ago because some accounts recently liked them, and I forgot how much they made me laugh



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"A heart of wood cannot be softened."
#ooooh this is gorgeous!! love this composition#the colors. the silhouette. goddddddd#wood was alive once#javert#fanart
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Thank you for all of your Javert defense posts, it means a lot to me as a queer Roma les mis fan! But I have to ask — do you know if a Roma actor has ever played him on stage? Looking online at cast lists it feels way too white. I don’t like that.
Hi! First of all, I’m so glad my posts have meant so much to you! Second of all… sadly I don’t think this has ever happened :( We’ve def had some non-white Javerts, most notably Norm Lewis in the 25th anniversary, but sadly we haven’t had any Romani Javerts. Honestly, Les Mis as a show has been WAY TOO WHITE for my comfort — Valjean’s arc makes way more sense when he’s portrayed as a Black man, yet so many Valjeans have been white?!?! I don’t like it djxkiakdjskqowpkxja.
like there are white actors who act as Valjean/Javert/etc that I like, but I don’t like the idea of either Valjean or Javert being white, if that makes sense?
#yes!!!! this is exactly what i’ve been saying!!!!!#literally The Dream is being able to cast a romani man as javert….#and ISN’T IT FUNNY how often eponine is cast as a woc🤔🤔#(and how often the thenardiers are cast as fat)
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Apparently Judi Dench got bored one day and they created a Les Mis barricade character for her in May 2004 for just one performance.
Holy shit that must have been hilarious to see.
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what if instead of serving time 24601 served
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god the beginning of the waterloo digression goes so unbelievably hard, the way it starts off with him just walking through the countryside on a beautiful day & coming to a farm etc and then as it goes on & he comes across little things in the landscape -- a church, a well, an orchard -- it starts cutting back and forth between these violent bloody horrible moments in the battle and the peaceful countryside full of remnants & marks & ruins that he's walking through. and likewise these grand desperate moments in the battle that then cut back to the 'present' where there's nothing but a few damaged bits of architecture in the may sunshine to show for it. insane insane insane
#there was a question about waterloo on qi and i was like. i bet victor hugo told me this and i just don’t remember#waterloo#the brick
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T4t enjoltaire
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hello again valvert tumblr
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disliking the Les Mis movie in 2024 is embarrassing. ''they weren't broadway singe-'' get over it. ''russell crowe wasn't good-'' what if I ate your spleen.
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Vol. I Fantine: tallies and stats
The translator with the greatest number of popular translations for Volume I is: Isabel Hapgood!
Numbers under the cut.
out of 64 votable chapter titles, each translator won this many times:
Hapgood: 32 (+ 1 possible win from a tie being re run)
Walton: 19
Donougher: 18 (+1 possible win from a tie being re run)
Wilbour: 18
FMA: 18
Rose: 15
Wraxall: 12
Denny: 7
Hapgood is definitely a very frequent victor (badum tshh) on this blog. Half of all the polls had her among the winners! Very impressive work!
In terms of the vote, most of the polls were decently split. But we had a few definite sweeps, with 6 polls having a winning translation with over 90%. These all ended up being in cases where there have been only two translations of the title, with only 1-2 translators going against the grain, and in these cases of massive sweeps, the votes all aligned with the more widespread translation.
Now, to be clear, I'm by no means implying that translators are copying each other whenever they translate something the same way! But I also thought it might be interesting to tally up the times when being individual/different won a translator the vote.
Hapgood: 10
Donougher: 8
FMA: 7
Rose: 3
Wilbour: 2
Denny: 1
Walton: 1
Wraxall: 0 😔 tragique
Also, one reminder: nearly every translation had someone going to it. At a quick glance, only about 6 of our 64 polls had an option with 0% of votes. That's pretty impressive! I'm glad we have a group of folks with a variety of opinions-- it makes running these polls worthwhile and reading the tags a lot more interesting and fun! And I'm glad that every translator has someone rooting for them.
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I wish for this to become the fandom lingo

And the whole barricade clapped.

Like this.
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cosette does get to see valjean before he dies! just barely. which is a great moment for marius, succeeding this time where he failed with his own father.
crying thinking about the parallels between marius and cosette’s parental figures and the vicious cycle of trauma and how they give and receive love without always knowing how to.
- fantine parting from cosette for her daughter’s own good, only to unintentionally leave her in an abusive household / colonel pontmercy parting from marius for his son’s own good, only to unintentionally leave him with an emotionally abusive grandfather
- gillenormand separating marius from his father without marius knowing, leading to resentment on marius’s end / marius separating cosette and valjean without cosette knowing, leading to resentment on cosette’s end
- colonel pontmercy hiding in the church just to catch a glimpse of his son / valjean taking walks into cosette’s new neighborhood just to watch his daughter’s house
- marius never getting the chance to see colonel pontmercy before he dies, but his father leaving him an explanatory note / cosette never getting the chance to see fantine or valjean before they die, but valjean leaving her an explanatory note about her family
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look, I'm a tired demographics student with too much time on their hands and an undying love for polls, so..
I'm also deeply interested in fandom demographics... from my 4 long long (yet relatively short) years in this fandom I've noticed that the Les Mis fanbase does tend to be older than other fandoms I've been in, (though this obviously depends on the platform you're on, for example, the falsettos fandom on tiktok seems to have a lot of 12-15 year olds, to my great surprise) and I just like analysing why that is! I know other fandoms have/have had sort of "fandom demographics" polls which I've always found super interesting... while I'm not necessarily trying to recreate that, I do find this interesting to look at!
Needless to say the more people see this the more representative and accurate the results will be so PLEASEEE reblog thiss and make my little demographer-to-be heart happy
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