ciown

[ciown]

Im not accepting your terms. Ive calmed down and realised youre all literally losers and absolutely any respectable human being on the planet would realise if it was even possible to find that this is fucked up abusive cyber bullying and care for my intelligence and other qualities over what a bunch of ableist sexist morons did to me 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

you repeatedly maliciously misgendered robin AGAIN in his DMs and then blamed me for your meltdown bc i called you vermin

[ciown]

yawn

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abuse is when someone is mean to you by calling you stupid and a bitch for harassing, berating, and stalking their best friend for a year. but abuse is not telling multiple people to die or kill themselves, constantly contacting them against their wishes, block evading to continue harassment, watching blogs and new accounts, continuously making people feel unsafe, etc. very smart and wise words from the vermin in our lives

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Let Robin experience peace of mind? I want him to rot for what hes done to me. Why the fuck do you think appealing to me about his feelings which YOU actually forced me to be responsible for, makes a difference. I dont want to talk to you. I think youre abusive pieces of shit who blame your problems on me. Robin can absolutely block me first but he doesnt. Why doesnt he do that huh? Because he likes the drama, he likes punching me, he likes blaming me for all his problems so he has a reason to feel better. Fuck you. This is your problem, your paranoia, your bullshit views. You acted like you where so thick as thieves but you dont even know how to stop your best friend having a breakdown?? Fuck off. Good day to you.

what has he done to you like actually. because anything you say, i can just show you the screenshots of your very first conversation/s together and ask you again if this is something worth punishing him over. because that is what this about. anything after are things you keep doing and pushing towards. we've already asked you to leave us alone and block us. you've won. and you're too stupid to realize that

right because not blocking you means he deserves to be bullied and harassed and told to kill himself and called a "muddy girl". oh and also telling his BF to die and khs. of course you need to make sure to bother him on his new account because you love stalking him to that degree. he deserves it because he hasn't blocked you on the account/s he's literally MADE to AVOID YOU. he deserves it truly, you're so right

he doesn't even talk about you outside of our DMs. you are not a thought in his daily life. only when he tries to be present online to connect with his friends and make new ones on here bc you're incapable of thinking about other people

"stop your best friend having a breakdown" HUH. LMAOOOOOOO. do you even understand how emotions or friendships work. you have a breakdown every goddamn day, why don't all of your super awesome cool friends stop your breakdowns, aren't you buddy buddy with them

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Im “obsessing” because this is abuse. You are abusing me. End of the discussion.

do you just like endlessly repeating things i say in the effort to accuse me of the things i've accused you of? are you a person with your own thoughts

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I am just sitting here it is infact how people use their phones and use tumblr. Idk why you think im just staring at this tumblr account I did do other stuff. seriously I am human being crazy I know!!! Could you please just private the damn blog and you dont have to read my spam and I dont have to like get a lawyer who will probably make me pay money. I thought tumblr was just like you open the app when ur bored reblog a post and have a chill moment and thats it like what is thissssss. Guys you are burning through literal data to call me a dumb cunt because I got triggered. Thats a literal ethernet cable.

"sitting here" implies you're not doing anything. You're trying to downplay what you're doing with childish "um actually"s so you feel less shitty about making the active decision to disrespect our one boundary (leaving all of us alone forever). I wish you Were just sitting there but you're not. You're obsessing over everything that's happened between you and us and if you're not, it's only a matter of time until you are

I mean I was working just a bit ago. Yesterday, I was playing games after work too. We're both capable of doing some normal everyday things between messages sent. I'm being hyperbolic when saying that all you do is spam us bc your only existence for us is your vitriol, tantrums, victim blaming, and so on

No, no. You need to stop spamming us altogether. You need to never ever message a single person close to us at all. Never message Robin, never message Gerome, never message me, never message their/our friends. If we end up in the same community, block us on every account you have. Don't message, never engage. We won't and have never willingly engaged with you, so don't do that to us. We block you immediately when we have to move accounts bc of you. There's no excuse to contact us At All

If you somehow succumb to your wants to hurt us (for example messaging us, reblogging us, @'ing us, block evading, etc), then I would and will unprivate the blog immediately. The only reason I would even want or care to, is if you actually manage to leave us alone. I need it in your words that you'll promise to stop doing this before I private the blog otherwise there isn't a point

If you actually and genuinely want to drop several thousands of pounds (solicitors charge 500£ p/h) even initiating the proceedings to even get to the case of dubious charges against us across multiple country lines then I would gladly watch you try. Get ready to pay tens if not hundreds of thousands trying to get this to stick. Defamation lawsuits are already notoriously difficult to pursue and if any solicitor (not lawyer) would take your case they would drop you immediately seeing all the shit you've done. Even if by some miracle you find a solicitor who will work pro bono, they aren't going to risk their reputation for you when you lose. The mere act of suing is not a guaranteed win and we will, of course, fight your claim and counter-sue. And when you lose, you'll be footing the bill for our legal expenses and all the damage you've inflicted (and if it's that much trying to find a solicitor to even try, can you even imagine footing our bill alone along with it)

It's not that we're scared of you threatening legal action, we're laughing at you for thinking it's that easy to do. If it WAS, why wouldn't we have attempted a restraining order against you already? Have you even done one iota of research into what goes into lawsuits like this or do you think the mere mention of a "lawyer" is enough to scare anyone

You continuously self-inflict harm by messaging us and provoking us into messaging you. It's an endless endeavour and even if you manage to start moving past it, the mere fucking presence of us is enough to set you off. Like yeah no shit that's what Tumblr is for, can you let Robin experience that peace of mind too? Or is it only "peace for me, not for thee"

Bitch doesn't even know how the Internet works and expects to find a solicitor LMFAOOO 😭

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Surely you know that if you dont acknowledge that youre not actually a fictional character, this is cult behaviour. You are in a cult. Thats not ableism, thats sanity and mental safety. This is all I have to add.

This does not matter at all. I thought this wasn't about kin. I distinctly remember you throwing a fit when we brought up your weird obsession with Robin bc he's Hubert

Also that's an incredibly sanitized and dismissive portrayal of what a cult actually is. It's incredibly disrespectful to cult survivors, and you're already aware that Robin experienced being in a real world, police-raided, radio-controlling religious cult before. It has nothing to do with random strangers on the internet saying they were XYZ in a past or are XYZ in the flesh. It might be worth looking into what a cult or cult mentality actually is instead of trying to say "you're insane for being kin" with extra steps. Especially as something who has also mentioned many time that she thinks she's Edelgard

You're making up random "arguments" to keep the conversation going in a way you think Might upset me. Maybe this is something you believe and you're embarrassed or insecure about your own identity within the community but you need a mirror not a projector

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I dont really want to risk talking about what people did to me openly, as youre posting them. I like the internet sometimes but I dont deserve to be treated so badly.

i'm not asking you to divulge your personal experiences or trauma. these are things you shouldn't be forced into talking to and i'm very very clearly not asking this of you. in fact i'm telling you not to because i don't want to know. i don't care. you don't care about the trauma robin's been through which includes multiple terrible online experiences and relationships, one of which he's mentioned in passing. why should i care about the things you went through

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I only logged in to read what was said before lol, im not even like engaging youre just saying shit to me because youre both actually scared I will get a lawyer because he wont ever in his life remove his posts because hes scared of me like what the fuck am I meant to do. Also like yeah loads of people hate me its like whatever at this point the fuck am I meant to do about it can someone get a grip I literally just read what youre saying to me and offer a response but I can stop answering and continue trying to think to myself what to do and ignore you entirely

we literally put on the blog that i'm the one who's keeping it up. i asked to take it from him and i posted those screenshots. he shows me your messages bc i ask to see them bc i don't want him to deal with all of this alone. he is certainly aware of the blog and what i'm doing. but this is all me doing it. willingly and wantingly

you are meant to leave us alone about it. i don't know why you're getting stressed and overwhelmed with me responding to you. do you not want that? i'm not going to not respond to you. ignoring you does jack shit so i don't see why i should do that when ignoring you leads to you stalking robin or his bf and spamming them over existing. ignoring you clearly wasn't working. avoiding you wasn't working. leaving robin's DMs as a place to vent is not manageable for his health (which is something he wanted to do for you) when ignoring and avoiding wasn't working. we have nothing left in the effort to get you to leave us alone

[ciown]

Wtf do you mean you cant do anything about it? Whys he having a breakdown over a “dumb bitch?” if he wants to break my spine like I am just sitting here. Give him like a milkshake or something i dunno a snack, cat gifs fuck if I know thats just what id do. Anyway Take it or leave it thanks.

can you explain to me what i can do about it

you being a dumb bitch because you keep walking into the inboxes of people who trigger and upset you is not what's triggering him. you keep triggering and breaking him down because of you lashing out when you do retrigger yourself by entering his DMs and being unable to help working yourself into toxic, negative behaviour

you are not just sitting there. you are so fucking entitled, hypocritical, and self-centered. he said he'd break your spine because you wished death and threatened his boyfriend literally immediately before. "i'm just sitting here" man how i wish that was fucking true! it's always "i'm just sooooooo innocent and these mean people keep telling me to fuck off and that i'm stupid</3" while completely ignoring the context of why things were being said

[ciown]

My end goal is LITERALLY that I want him to take his shit down which could literally prevent me from having a chill life over dumb shit that he jumped through a hundred hoops just to be able to dunk me because hes a salty bastard. Tf you want me to say? Oh im so sorry we hate each other guess its just like this i’ll just sit in the corner and do nothing about it! Like what the fuck if you knew me irl youd know how unbothered I am, I do not hurt a soul. Its just the fucking internet that is insane, its like being in a goddamn gladiator pit this is why I stick to my own devices usually.

if i private that account will you not message a single one of us again? ever again? never. not even for some random shit you think up. genuinely would you? you've immediately went back on your word countless times again, so what makes this time different

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I dont even want to hurt you. You just seem like a person, a bit shouty but not bad. Why is your friend holding me accountable for life? Who is he to do that to me?

he doesn't react to 90% of the messages you send him. what're you even talking about. all the screenshots we have are you talking to yourself in his DMs and lashing out at him when he doesn't react because he's terrified of you. like no shit he doesn't seem like a person when you never EVER gave him the space or time to be

[ciown]

Me connecting to fiction is not an excuse for the actually horrible, gaslighting, emotionally abusive things that have been done to me over the years for the sake of me existing. You guys chose to play into that, and yes I am a grown women… why are you lecturing me? Why are you telling me to get therapy? People say im not kind then why have I been baby sitting strangers online whose emotions arent my responsibility?? Why am I accused of hurting people because of their own emotions? Ive said horrible things to him I wont deny that. But I do not deserve this, or wanting to die over it as much as I have.

no it isn't. that would be a shit thing to do if it was as simple and clean as you're making out to be. whoever is doing that to you is a jackass. but that really doesn't have shit to do with what's happening right now because that's not what's going on. and i've explained to you why it isn't

i mean you can stop "babysitting" us any time you want. i only @ you when you're doing something shitty to my friends and running robin off the platform for the umpteenth time. we aren't your responsibility, but i don't think this is how you treat ppl you're caring for anyway

it's always "your emotions aren't my responsibility" until you're the one breaking down in robin's DMs and then it's everyone's problem

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Your friend thinks he is literally a fictional character and that by default someone wanting to have sex with said character means him, the real life fucking person who ive never met nor seen so HOW can I involve him in my sexual fantasies when weve never met or spoken face to face. You’re all fucking mentally unwell. At least I just took the name of a character a related too and connected with. Im literally gonna contact an online defamation lawyer if this continues.

i don't want to know that

why are you directly telling robin about it. we don't watch your blogs. how else would we know other than you directly telling someone that. if a [xyz] kin tells you not to talk about how you want to fuck [xyz] near them, you don't then continue to do exactly that. weirdo

if a random non-kin schmuck asks you to stop talking about wanting to fuck a fictional character in their DMs then you stop doing that for their comfort

did i message you again after you screenshotted my message asking you to leave us alone when i confronted you over telling gerome to die/khs? no. i only @'d you because you were harassing robin again. "defamation" and it's actual screenshots of the things you've sent us

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Wiggling our way into your spaces? Get lost. Its not your space, its the internet.

hey whose ask box is this again? whose ask box have you been spamming

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I guess if it scares you so bad I could just explain that hes exaggerating details because of personal hatred if it ever actually becomes a massive issue but I still feel scared. there is nothing I can do to protect myself, apologising would feel actually humiliating for me at this point. You are scary people, you have literally made my life hell and attacked even the most vulnerable parts of me just to prove that Robin was right to block me, when I was just upset about it as most people are when something like that happens. Like you literally ranted at me and made me breakdown over an anon kinfessions ask then made fun of me for having that reaction. You think im heartless but your words affected me very deeply. You couldve still warned me about or actually you know asked me about what the fuck I was being accused of but instead made me petrified to attempt to talk to anyone. Youve made me feel evil and worthless all just for the sake of kin and fandom or whatever, that im not entitled to my own private thoughts, that im not allowed to breathe because im a waste of space and irritating to everyone around me. Ive been threatened and demoralised. Im just looking out for myself since you all find it so funny to mock how no one is on my side.

i've read everything you've sent to him. you can't fucking lie to me, neva. why do you think we keep taking screenshots? so you can't fucking lie to us, neva

"if it ever actually becomes a massive issue" this is why you're not the victim. it IS a massive issue... for robin. he can't even have an empty fucking account on this site without you jumping into his DM's to berate him bc you're upset over the mere idea of robin and gerome being intimate. you take every chance you can to tell them to kts and berate them over bullshit that should've long been dead as a conversation (as in over a year ago). you run to robin to piss and moan about how things are just so hard and bad for you as if any of us are obligated to care about that when you have never once given a shit about the the things robin goes through or about the shit YOU put him through. you actively use these things against him as a means to hurt him

"not a massive issue", don't piss me off

"i still feel scared" leave

"nothing I can do to protect myself" you know this is blatant lie. you do everything in your power to hurt yourself. if you're so scared and in pain talking to us, then why the fuck do you keep doing it. it's not to protect yourself. assuming this is what you mean, you want to get a lawyer to protect yourself for... what? having the a legal opportunity to keep harassing us? you think that's a thing? does that make sense to you? or do you want to keep robin from ever being on tumblr? because that's the only thing they'd be able to do here. we both immediately blocked you after making new accounts. we did not want you here or around us. so i genuinely don't understand what you want from us

we would leave you alone if you stopped talking to us. if you think me @'ing you after you told gerome to khs means i'm harassing you "after it's over" then you're a self-centered and hypocritical child. of course i'd be pissed that you're still threatening him and insulting him. of course i'd be upset that yet another person has to wake up to yet another tirade of abuse and harm from you. it doesn't matter if he found it weeks ago. should he suck it up and not mention it bc "well i don't mean it anymore! i sent it this morning! it's sooo old news"?

i don't know how many times robin and i need to say this: we don't want an apology, we want you to stop stalking and messaging us

you don't need to apologize, admit to, or do anything. in fact, you need to do the complete opposite! stop fucking messaging any of us. that includes robin, gerome, myself, and whatever tangentially related person is around here. stop doing it. stop

i thought you said none of this bothers you and you're unaffected by everything. like yeah, being blocked by a stranger you have 3 conversations with IS upsetting. i would be upset and wonder what i did wrong. i would not have a breakdown in a semi-public server's vent channel begging from them to unblock me after they blocked me for harassing and belittling them in their DMs which was plainly explained to me when i was blocked. i would not then vent about them as a person in this life on a very public and well known blog in our very niche community. i simply would not be in a situation where i would ever need to be confronted over this in the first place

can you explain to me or give me some sort of screenshot to when we made fun of you for anything back then

but honestly, how long are you going to punish us over confronting you for venting about robin as he is in this life instead of your own hubert? what's your end goal here? do you want us to apologize? i do regret confronting you because it gave you some backwards reason to justify this. if i had the foresight to know this was going to happen i would have done anything else to get you to stop. it is a bit unfair to get on us for this when to me i had the person who had been upsetting and triggering my best friend for a week start to paint it all in a light that made him the bad guy. like. i was upset and pissed off and trying to get you to understand why we wanted you to stop. it's not like this is something you can't read. swordfishe is still up with a portion of the conversation

i think you're heartless because you only care about how my words affect you very deeply but you don't stop to think why i'm saying them. you don't stop to think about how your words affect robin and his loved ones. do you think i'm unscathed from this? do you understand how helpless i feel having you constantly harassing him and causing him to breakdown? i can't do anything. nothing i do matters. i can't help him in a way that would really matter. that would fix this

why would we ask YOU about the things you were accused us while you were doing one major thing they were accusing you of, ie. stalking us and harassing us. i don't know everything that went on between you and them. i DO know you've been harassing robin for a year straight and using any means possible to do so. which is something that i'm vaguely aware happened btwn you and them years ago. whatever happened between you all is genuinely not my business. i've made a conscious effort to not bring it up again and only focus on the years worth of shit you've put robin through because that's what's happening right now as we speak (afaik)

if you think this is ALL because of kin and fandom then i don't know what to tell you. every one of us has tried to explain to you what you were doing wrong. i don't see why we need to be punished bc you watered everything down and honed in on the things you can dismiss, ignore, and/or justify

oh, you can most certainly and most privately THINK whatever you want. we aren't stopping you. but you know what makes those thoughts bad? us knowing about it. and you know the Only reason we would know about it? i'm sure you can reason it yourself but i'll help. you fucking told us. we would not know your private thoughts if you didn't jump into robin's DMs telling him about it. stop fucking saying whatever pops into your mind, jackass, and we would stop making you feel like shit over it because we wouldn't know about it to begin with

i really don't know what you want here. "i'm not allowed to breathe" "i'm a waste of space". yeah.. HERE those things are true. if you stopped wiggling your way into our spaces and lives you wouldn't feel that way. like the fuck do you want me to say here? to us you are unwelcomed, unloved, and unwanted. after all the shit you pulled, what else do you expect?

you could've spent this entire fucking year going out into the kin community to make new friends instead. you cannot say we stopped you because the literal FIRST time you ran into us again in a kin server, robin allowed you that space to be there when YOU panicked about being in a space neither of us owned. YOU are the conceited fuck who got pissed off at him in his DMs for joking with a kin double in the server. like is he not allowed to do that? can he not make friends outside of you? we never stopped you. we never did anything to you. if doubles bothered you why the fuck would you join a double friendly space

if you're talking about the callout, AGAIN. he told you he wouldn't post it at all if you could stop messaging any of us which you couldn't do. did you not notice how we didn't update our blog until after you harassed robin for weeks? like do you not realize that these things are an attempt to get you to fuck off and leave us alone? do you think any of us WANT to do this

like yes of course i think it's funny to mock you. i think it's genuinely a relief to be able to get under you skin that way because at least while you force us to endure your presence, i am still hurting you in some way. of course it will never be enough to get you to finally leave us alone. it's futile and meaningless. it will never amount to the horror and grief that you've put robin through. i can call you a dumb a bitch with no life who is incapable of not hurting herself and blaming everyone else for it. but what does that compare to when you're already doing everything you can to berate and traumatize robin. when you've been doing this far longer than any single one of us. yes we want to mock you. yes we need to because what the fuck else can we do at this point. no fucking wonder we'd laugh at you when you're telling us to kill ourselves or that you hope his cat gets run over or that he dies in a very invasive medical procedure or when you call him the worst things you possibly can think of. what else are we supposed to do? we've already told you how this hurts us. how it's caused breakdowns and stress and fear. and yet the mere idea of us laughing at you is what sets you off. not the hurt you caused. never the hurt because that would mean you aren't a terrible person with no love or care in their heart

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Cool speeches, but your friend is a nutter and accusing me of shit that sounds ten times worse than whats actually happening

wowie the hypocrite who keeps crying wolf is being ableist against robin? who would've thunk

"haha i'm going to keep talking to you about sex after you told me to stop and i'm going to involve you in my sexual fantasies against your wishes!!!!" explain how this isn't sexual harassment. HARASSMENT BTW NOT ABUSE. he was talking abt his own previous S/A and why that would upset and trigger him with you talking abt that shit now. fucking dumbass

you cannot tell me you weren't implying you were involving them in this. this is directly after you talking abt how it made you feel sick to be accused of involving them in your sexual fantasies

like you shouldn't be saying this to anyone at all. why did you think this was ok, neva. a coping mechanism does not mean you say whatever you want to the random stranger you've been hounding for months and months. this was not something you did months ago so i don't see why this is happening now. you've known he's had a BF for over a year now. you're just creating new ways to hurt someone who had the gall of telling you to leave him alone because you feel like he deserves it for you being upset over the repercussion of your own actions