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Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Stranger Things (TV 2016) Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Will Byers/Mike Wheeler, Jonathan Byers/Nancy Wheeler Characters: Mike Wheeler, Will Byers, Nancy Wheeler, Jonathan Byers Additional Tags: Friends to Enemies, Enemies to Friends to Lovers, Adult Will Byers, Adult Mike Wheeler, Writer Mike Wheeler, Artist Will Byers, Canon Compliant, Post-Final Battle Against Vecna (Stranger Things), Trauma, Angst and Drama, Angst with a Happy Ending, Eventual Fluff, Childhood Friends, Mike Wheeler Being an Idiot, Will Byers & Mike Wheeler Fight Summary:

Will Byers gets the opportunity of a lifetime to draw for an upcoming writer’s comic book. What he doesn’t realize is that the writer is none other than his ex-best friend (whom he used to be in love with), Mike Wheeler. The two haven’t spoken to each other since they were 18 years old. Will they be able to keep it professional in order to meet their tight deadline? Or will old feelings and miscommunication get in the way?

Here’s the first chapter of my adult byler fic I’m writing :) I’m very excited for this one! 

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You know what I need in season 5? A byler parallel to milkvan’s kiss at the end of season 3.

I feel like Mike’s gonna be the one to initiate a first kiss but let’s just imagine it’s Will. Like the milkvan kiss, Mikes eyes are wide open and he looks surprised/confused. Maybe Will notices he’s not kissing back and thinks “oh shit I messed up” so he pulls away. Then we have Mike immediately pull him back. I think it’d be great to show the contrast between byler and milkvan. Either way their first kiss needs to be epic.

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I finally finished the byler fic I’ve been working on! @autistic-katara gave me the idea to write a fic about byler and Joyce so thank you for that :) I wanted to focus more on Joyce and Mike's dynamic.  I have another one in the works and I’m excited to finally get back into my writing groove again! 

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This parallel is actually so insane to me.

You can’t tell me they didn’t do this on purpose. If the first scene is interpreted as romantic why can’t the Byler scene be interpreted as romantic. Also if we talk about the context in these scenes I would argue that the Byler scene is a lot more heartfelt/intimate.

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I just wanna say that ChatGPT has a confirmation bias issue where it all depends on how you word your prompt. It’s not an objective source of factual information. It also scrapes the internet for people’s words and theories so nothing it says is it “thinking” or generating its own opinions, its own analysis, nothing like that. It’s just a regurgitator of other people’s words.

So yeah it can be fun to use but a Milkvan fan could sit down and make ChatGPT make pro-Milkvan analysis, too. It’s not really a comfort to see ChatGPT agree with anything because of its confirmation bias.

Oh yeah 100% not saying it’s reliable/credible. ChatGPT or any ai can’t be credible since it doesn’t have a brain to, as you said, “form its own analysis”. I was just playing around. Basically it put what I think about Byler into words 😊 Not saying that Byler is real bc of ChatGPTs words or to use it as evidence. More so that what it says applies to what many of us in the Byler fandom already think/know and can be used as a reminder to why we believe it’ll happen. I will say it got me thinking since it touched base on the psychological aspects. That’s the part that interested me. I’d be interested myself to do a psychological analyses.

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I’ve been trying to work more on this and some other fanfics but I’ve been so busy and the holidays have been difficult for me this year. I promise I will try to get it done soon. I had so much motivation to write again but then it went out the window. I’m lowkey going through it but it’s fine I’m fine 🙃

A little snippet of the fanfic I’m working on 👀 I’m hoping I’ll finish it tomorrow but we shall see

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Was messing around with ChatGPT earlier bc I was bored and asking it about Mike’s relationship with Will. Here’s some points I thought were the most interesting

Also asked it to interpret this look from Mike and here’s what it said.

So here’s some more confirmation from ChatGPT if you’re feeling any byler doubt 😊

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A little snippet of the fanfic I’m working on 👀 I’m hoping I’ll finish it tomorrow but we shall see

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Y’all what are some byler fics you feel we’re missing. I wanna get back into writing again but I need some ideas. I like writing angst or fluff. Also I will NOT be writing any form of smut (making out is the most I’ll write).

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This is gonna be long…you’ve been warned

So here’s my thing. I think that milkvan would’ve been cute had they established them into a slow burn. Let’s just say they had set up milkvan differently and had them develop slowly over the seasons. I believe that for it to have worked they could’ve kept them on a friend level in season 1 (maybe have subtext of their crushes but nothing more). Any sort of romance felt forced to me. I mean this girl literally has been locked up in a lab and gone through so much trauma. She needed more time to trust people. She also needed more time to understand what a romantic relationship is. Then in season 2, I don’t think they should have kissed. They could’ve danced together at snowball but I still think they should’ve kept it platonic. I loved how season 3 showed El learning about independence. Being surrounded by bad men all her life, I think it was important for her to see what it’s like to have a strong female friendship. Again, I don’t think El and Mike should’ve been together in season 3. Maybe El could’ve confided in Max about her crush on Mike but I truly think El needed to learn to love her self and find her true self-identity before rushing into a romantic relationship. Season 3 sort of touched on this but it was because her and Mike broke up. I just don’t think they should’ve been together in the first place. Now maybe season 4 could’ve been where Mike and El started coming together. Mike comes to visit them and sees what El is going through. They confide in each other about trauma/bullying. Then they are separated again and this is when Mike realizes how much he truly loves El. They’re reunited and then they have their big moment when Mike gives his speech. Don’t get me started on the speech. That’s a whole other thing I won’t fully get into. Instead of Mike saying “you’re my superhero” he could’ve said something more along the lines of “you’re not a monster, you are the strongest person I know” and brought up things to show he understands El. Personal things that show he really loves her as a person who is more than just her powers. Had they done this with milkvan’s story I would’ve possibly shipped them. However, the way they wrote them leads me to believe that El is meant to go on a journey where ultimately she becomes an independent women. I really just want her to finally see herself as the beautiful person she is. Because all her life she has been used by others for her powers and I want her to realize that she is more than that.

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The last episode being titled “The Rightside Up” is making me so emo. After 10 years, it’s really ending guys :(

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Thank you Noah for ending any byler doubt I was having

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I think this is the celebrity death that has hit me the most. I spent a majority of my childhood dedicated to the one direction fandom. Like many, these boys helped me get through some tough times. Especially during my middle school years. Even now that I’m an adult, one direction has always remained a part of me and shaped me in so many ways. I think what is so tough for a lot of us is that we didn’t expect anything like this to happen so soon when we are still so young. And I know many of us have complicated feelings about Liam but no matter what he was still a human being. A person that was such a huge part of us and I think it almost feels like part of us is gone with him. I always listen to one direction when I want to be reminded of simpler times and now listening to them won’t be the same. It just doesn’t feel real. Liam’s family and friends are all in my thoughts and I really hope they take all the time they need to grieve.

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No matter what has happened and what we have found out over the last few years, these boys will always be bonded by one direction. I really hope they’re all taking care of themselves right now and take as much time as they need to process it. And remember that they don’t owe us any posts on social media. They are allowed to grieve however they need to and sometimes grief is hard to put into words.

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The worst part about Liam Payne dying is that people are posting about “the switch up is crazy”

Like no. He was an abuser and made horrible decisions, but nobody wanted him to die. He was getting hate for an INCREDIBLY valid reason, but we all recognized that he needed mental and physical help. He needed to go to rehab. He needed to get away from drugs and alcohol and improve upon himself away from the public. No one wanted him to die.

We’re not mourning the life of an abuser, we are mourning the part of him that we adored and looked up to for a massive part of our childhood/ teenage years. He was a huge part of how I was introduced to my love of music. And yes, he did horrible things and made horrible decisions and over the last few years has been anything but admirable, but none of us wanted this.

Maya didn’t want this. And everyone saying that it’s her fault can actually go burn in hell. She likely already blames herself enough. She likely already wishes she hadn’t spoken up about it out of the guilt that she likely feels. You guys commenting all over the socials about how this is her fault and “are you happy now?” Are actually horrible people.

A 7 year old boy just lost his father. A woman just lost her long term boyfriend. Two parents just lost their son. Several young children just lost their uncle. Show some fucking respect. Joking about it and hating on people who had nothing to do with what happened is not doing anything but twist the knife for the people who this has ACTUALLY effected.

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Ok bear with me this is kind of long. So something (in my opinion) that helped confirm they would give Will his happy ending was the whole painting storyline. I just really don’t understand it’s purpose if Will and Mike don’t end up together. So first let’s start with the airport scene

We have them awkwardly hugging. Now I get that they haven’t seen each other in a year and have barely talked. That still doesn’t explain why this hug is so awkward. They’re supposedly best friends. Normally when you’ve been friends with someone so long it feels like no time has passed even if you haven’t seen each other in a while. Why is this any different? They ended on good (although Will didn’t get the apology he deserved) terms after their fight in season 3.

Will has the painting with him in the airport and he obviously planned to give it to Mike before he realized how awkward things were. This is when he lost a bit of hope. What exactly is it he hopes for? Is it for Mike to like him back? Why give him this hope if it was gonna end badly? It seems silly to include it if they’re just gonna end up staying friends.

Now to my next point. We have Will get this hope again after their talk in Will’s bedroom. When Mike says it’s better for them to work as a team. Friends. Best friends. The camera focuses on Will looking to Mike then he reaches for the painting and puts it in his backpack.

My question again… What is will hoping for? Now you could say he’s giving it to him as a friend but why be so hesitant to give it to him? We know from the Van scene it’s because the meaning behind the painting shows his true feeling for Mike.

Which leads me to the beloved van scene. Will’s plan was never to use use El’s name and act like she commissioned the painting. He was originally planning to give Mike the painting because of how he feels toward Mike. We can confirm this with our two other scenes. He was so excited to give Mike his painting in the airport until he lost hope. And then that hope is regained after their moment in his bedroom (which felt very flirty). He only decides to use El’s name to mask his own feelings because he believes that’s what Mike needs to hear. Mike’s telling Will that El doesn’t need him. Will knows that Mike wants to feel needed and the person who needs him most is Will. But that’s not what Will believes. He believes Mike wants El to need him so he uses her name while describing his own feelings because he thinks he’s lost any chance of Mike ever feeling the same about him. 

And for the third time I ask WHY WOULD THE WRITERS GIVE WILL ANY TYPE OF HOPE. It just seems silly to me that they’d make him suffer these feelings of unrequited love for no reason. I mean what is the point of the painting plot? We know in season 5 it’ll have to come up again. Mike is gonna figure out that El didn’t commission the painting. He’ll have to confront Will about it. If the writers wanted Will to come out to his best friend Mike then they really didn’t need to have a whole storyline drag over 2 seasons. I just don’t see how it makes any sense for the series to include all these scenes in season 4 as a way to confirm Wills love for Mike and not have Mike feel the same. What’s the point?

Sorry I am rambling and I don’t even know if this makes any sense. But if you read all of this thank you lol