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hobbies include: staring at louis 🟠👄🟠
"louis de pointe du lac, already described above but always fun to envisage." — armand; the vampire armand (1998)
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"lestat has never done anything wrong" WHAT DO YOU MEAN 😭😭 WHAT DO YOU MEAN???
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The stance, the arms, the bikes. I need more bts pictures please I can’t survive on these crumbs.
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I dont think shipping is right in the context of IWTV, as like wanting to characters to be together/end up together (someone pls explain what is shipping to me, I still dont understand).
For me is more about which of these toxic/abusive relationships you find more interesting and want to explore, examine, and talk about. And that for me is Louis and Armand.
Because unlike Louis relationship with Lestat, I think Louis has more agency (?) In this relationship. Like he knowingly (?) chose to be with Armand as an act of punishment
And like idk but it is really interesting to see someone know that this person is bad for them, that they had a hand at doing the worst that can be done to you, and you still having love for them and choosing to be with them even as they harm you in horrible, unimaginable ways. Like we could say that is just Louis trauma that keep him tied to Armand, but seeing how easy he left the guy in the finally (unlike you know, having to resort to murder) makes me think that some part of Louis was consciouslly saying with Armand.
Which like so fucked up, but also so interesting to examine.
Which also brings me to the difference in reception between 1x5 and 2x5. I don't really read posts talking about Lestat, but in some ways I think people talk more about 2x5 because the psychological nature of the fight, the way it's like language/emotions based rather than physical which in my opinion is more interesting to talk about.
And again with Louis agency (?), like he was not in you know, Armands playing field, because of the drugs and suicidal tendencies but he still manage to hurt Armand in ways he couldnt (and didn't) if the fight was physical.
Which brings me to another aspect of their relationship I found interesting. Like I don't fear for Louis' physical safety when he is with Armand unlike when he is with Lestat- though considering he is suicidal I maybe should. But that's the point also, like how physicological/emotional abuse is as powerful but very different from physical abuse and we don't see that talk about.
Plus the fact that it comes from a place of *care* of all places.
So yeah, I am sooo happy Louis dumped Armand out of his ass, and that he is happy (?) In the finale of the series and that's it there's nothing else.
But I still enjoy looking at their relationship and how Armand (and Louis) fucked it all up. Because like if only the guy, Arun, had trusted Louis, had learn how to be in a relationship outside of like coven/vampirism, if only he could have relax instead of plot. Alas.
Still the healthiest relationship Armand has ever had. Anyways, I wish we could have seen more of Jonah, see how Louis interacts in a normal (?) Relationship, which tbh I think that like Armand, he cant.
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Biblically accurate Trinity Gate era:
#i expect the writers to fully follow this through#don't be cowards#prince lestat#interview with the vampire#amc interview with the vampire#loumand#louis de pointe du lac#armand#the vampire chronicles#tvc#iwtv#amc iwtv#lestat de lioncourt#the vampire armand#loustat#loumandstat#trinity gate
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A begging to be loved
- Armand, Amadeo, Arun Interview With The Vampire
Interview With The Vampire // 520 Studios // Bright Dead Things, Ada Limon // The 17-Year-Old & the Gay Bar, Danez Smith // Sara Teasdale // unknown // The Haunting of Hill House, Shirley Jackson // The Raven Boys, Maggie Stiefvater // unknown // Song of Myself, Walt Whitman // Citizen Illegal, José Olivarez // Virginia Woolf // unknown // unknown // Dear Dictator, Saint Motel // Litany in Which Certain Things Are Crossed Out, Richard Siken // David Levithan // The Hours, Michael Cunningham // Sue Zhao // Teaching the Dog Not to Nip, Jim Moore
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Maybe it’s just I’m following the right people, but I feel like I’m starting to see an influx in people that are calling out the racism Louis and by extension Jacob, has been targeted by and it’s possible that it’s just more and more black people getting fed up, but either way I’m just glad to see it.
I’m especially happy to see posts calling out Armand and Daniel, we often call out Lestat (rightfully so) but I feel like Armand and Daniel kinda get off bc they’re a minority and old/human respectively, but everybody can get the smoke.
Anyway, for me at least, the problem truly lies in how people interact with these characters and how dismissed and disrespected Louis is in comparison to the other 3 and how willfully ignorant people are willing to be when confronted with the fact that they’re being racist, and some people will never change, but I’m glad more people are speaking on it.
(Also the level of respect some people seem to have for Sam over Jacob… we’ll get into that eventually)
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I genuinely do not understand how the s2 umbrella scene was originally supposed to have bondage
Louis: Are you sure this is what you want, Arun? *pulls out fluffy handcuffs*
Armand: Yes Maître *tears away clothing to reveal bdsm harness underneath*
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Louis and Armand were so in love in Paris it made them stupid because firstly if Armand made my daughtersister wear a creepily infantilized costume and perform a play that jabs at her insecurities I would have separated Armand's head from his neck at the dress rehearsal and secondly if Louis humiliated me in front of my entire coven by rejecting me as his companion after we had already fucked on every surface imaginable I would have set him on fire immediately no trial needed
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when the fandom is so small that everybody knows everybody
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iwtv ep. 11 (s2ep4) misconceptions pt. 3
ok now for some pet peeves:
i hate that y'all keep saying louis is hallucinating lestat here instead of the obvious - looking at the person next to him, aka armand:
i also don't know how y'all keep defending armand about these stein photos - is this the response of someone innocent?
armand's condescending response tells me all i need to know - armand messed with the photos to undermine louis's confidence in himself and daniel's confidence in louis. rashid has no motive to do this, and armand doesn't act like someone surprised this is happening. stop pretending armand isn't manipulative.
another HUGE pet peeve - i'm tired of y'all claiming that louis loves to be "coddled" and "hyped up" by dreamstat due to selectively edited clips of this scene. so let me present louis listening to constructive criticism from dreamstat:
sorry if this ruins anyone's fun but i can't tolerate the character assassination - louis is so much more than some weak crazy girl who relies on a white man for fulfillment
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yeah i also noticed fandom making these posts about louis suffering soooo much, because he sits around all day wanting to be topped by masculine white dick. it's pathetic how it's still happening. 😒
lbr this shit has been going on even before this season. even from people in this fandom who act like they care so much about louis and addressing racism, but really treat him as a glorified prop to lestat. all while contributing to uncomfortable stereotypes about brown men being desexualized and undesirable.
Oh it's very definitely very insulting to Louis's character like Louis pining for Lestat's dick?? And admitting that to Lestat of all people??? Louis "I'm companion enough for myself now" du Lac? That Louis? Louis "whatever pale proxy of me" de Pointe du Lac? Louis, who, in 2x05 after Young!Daniel notes that his guard is now down, says, "Paris in the 1940's, with its permissive laissez-aller sexual atmosphere, was the more formative liberation for me" was having the worst sex of his life with Armand in Paris? The post that was like Lestat tells Louis that God put him on Earth to fuck him the "correct" way Lestat you guys weren't even fucking for the majority of your depressing marriage either!
Yeah I don't know this stuff isn't really funny to me even if it's supposedly not serious and it veers into a really antiblack area at times. Louis by the end was not desperate to return to Lestat. Louis as a character can be petty and mean, but always to someone's face (the exception being San Francisco, which was understandable because for 23 years he couldn’t talk even about Lestat!) Where's the proof that he ever would degrade other moc via gossiping about how bad they are in bed, especially to please and prop up a white man? Where's the proof that he's repulsed by men acting vulnerable? Why is it funny to call him "homophobic (affectionately)"? Why the incessant recycled jokes over and over again that having sex with Armand was always terrible and Lestat was always good? Why the jokes about Louis supposedly dying to get his 'traditional Edwardian marriage where he belongs to Lestat and only bottoms' life back? Meanwhile, the Louis we actually have owns the night and gets to be a morally questionable vampire capitalist who'll kill vampires that dare challenge him and could get any guy he wants, while finally healthily process the death of his loved ones and his former abusive relationships.
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idc what the season 3 plot is. I will be imagine loumand having confusing post-divorce sex the entire time
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