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this is so fucking funny. my fave part is all the people in the comments reeling in shock that there's enough sus evidence to compile an entire two minute video lmfao. honeys.. you got a big storm comin <3
#your honor may I enter into the evidence exhibit 29435b-1c of whatever tf is going on with these guys#gcest#gallaghercest#oacest#oacestposting
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noel talked about how he is only arsed about today not tomorrow, and matt asked what if you are a farmer. and noel replied, well then i would be shagging one of my daughters
#is that why you became a rock star? so you could shag your brother and not even have to plant anything?#gcest#gallaghercest#oacest#oacestposting
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Liam being Liam, he's always pinching my arse on stage
What happened last time was that tabloid story about Liam pinching an air stewardess's bum on a plane, and her claim to be 'traumatised' and her threatening legal action."
Well I was on the plane first," explains Noel, "so I don't know what's fucking gone on. He's stayed out in Miami with Nic, and I can't speak for him but, Liam being Liam, he's always pinching my arse on stage, and I hear words like 'traumatised' and all that and I think, 'Fucking hell, you want to try playing rhythm guitar for the cunt!' Fucking hell, that's traumatised!"
— Noel April 2001 Loaded

Noel’s "traumatised" face 🙂↔️


I’m playing a guitar solo brilliantly and Liam’s trying to trip me up in the biggest gig of our lives, biggest gig of all time at that time. And he’s pinching me arse and I’m kinda never dropped a fucking note, unbelievable.
— Noel June 2021 Apple Music
#I love how Noel was so trashed at this party that he wound up puking on Beth Gibson’s shoes 🤣#in vino veritas 🤷♀️#you better ask liam about my arse#he said somewhat perplexingly#gcest#gallaghercest#oacest#oacestposting
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Amazing things happening in the wake of #assgropegate
#sane sane position to take#recognizes it for what it is#doesn’t like or ship it#I’m down with that bc bro doesn’t deny that there’s a good chance this is what happened here#gcest#gallaghercest#oacest#oacestposting
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Great post from @danaes-silver-hammer who’s out there in the trenches!
I find that the recognition of the incest element on Reddit is nuanced. There’s certainly far fewer ppl who ship it, even if they recognize it as a trope that’s been revisited repeatedly by the media to emphasize the intensity of the relationship. And they do!
Many who are willing to accept a broadly incestuous framing are grappling with a dynamic where the brothers present as overly imbricated in each other’s lives, to the point where many of their behaviors seem like a response to the other even in situations where that wouldn’t be the case in normal sibling relationships (e.g. whether and when to get married, divorced etc).
Where things get difficult is in the drill-down, I think. Like @jeevey said, it’s not that it’s good, per se. If you look at it too long, you’re going to have to wrestle with the reality of a 5 yr age difference, when did this start, under what circumstances, etc.
And while most people are willing to accept that the members of their favorite rock band aren’t exactly pillars of moral rectitude, the parameters of this situation are such that it’s far easier to envision a scenario where someone is a legitimately bad dude than it is to imagine an unorthodox love affair between equals.
I recently started to post on the Oasis subreddit and I'm pleasantly surprised to see that the redditors are more aware of the incestual elephant on the room than I thought.
These are comments in my posts:
more below
Funnily enough, I got top post of the day a few times and all lovely comments. Turns out the middle aged men are in less denial than the people of oasistwt lmaooo. I'll keep escalating though
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First line of GGTIA is “I could be your lover” and last line is “come along let’s make it tonight.”
A nice bookending for a song that might be calling back to Ashcroft’s work.



Richard Ashcroft “Song for the Lovers” (2000)

Guess God Thinks I’m Abel (2005)
Anyone know if Ashcroft played this song at any of the reunion shows? Probably too on the nose.
(Side note: didn’t someone recently post about how Noel’s favorite genre of porn was “hotel room”?)
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Richard Ashcroft “Song for the Lovers” (2000)

Guess God Thinks I’m Abel (2005)
Anyone know if Ashcroft played this song at any of the reunion shows? Probably too on the nose.
(Side note: didn’t someone recently post about how Noel’s favorite genre of porn was “hotel room”?)
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Nothing says enmeshment like constant mirroring behavior…
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I know Loch Lomond is talked about SO MUCH when it comes to gcest discussion, but I just wanted to add something (sorry if someone's been on the exact same rant as me lol). I'm fairly sure it's after the kiss (I might be wrong though), this specific picture of where Noel still has his hands on Liam's shoulders and is staring into the distance/crowd, and Liam is looking up at Noel, this one:

And if it is infact after the kiss, I can almost understand what Liam is probably feeling there.... Like he's staring up, dopey eyed expression with an agape mouth like he usually does, but he looks more shocked than usual, in actual disbelief, and more importantly, confusion. Like genuinely deep in thought, staring at Noel, wondering just how deep his feelings for his brother are, and why Noel was seemingly the one that initiated it (on the most part). Anyone else wanna add something to this? And also is there anyone who can confirm whether this picture is pre or post kiss? But yeah this is crazy to me, this specific picture is probably on my mind more than the tongue kiss itself.
#I don’t see a blush nor do I see confusion#I see complete unadulterated adoration#I still think Liam made the kiss far weirder with the tongue#gallaghercest#gcest#oacestposting#oacest
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Hot take on the Paul situation:
So…If Liam’s tight with me, he’s the guy I’d call if I needed to bury a body. I believe Paul is probably guilty of what he’s been accused of. But Liam is acting within character.
I can’t fault him for supporting his brother. Simply because his brother supported him when the chips were down.
Loyalty isn’t nothing. For some people, it’s everything. I can hope Paul’s ex gets justice and at the same time give Liam props for supporting his brother when it doesn’t advantage him in any way to do so.
It’s easy to be loyal when nothing is on the line. Family is family and I can’t judge the guy for that.
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i love that Liam flirts the same way he talks to Noel….


#notice how Liam tells the bargirl he’ll stop but he doesn’t say that to Noel#Liam will never stop with Noel and he won’t even lie about it#gcest#gallaghercest#oacest#oacestposting
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NGHFB “Pretty Boy”
NGHFB “A Dream is All You Need to Get By”
remember to shine let my love take you high you got nothing to lose you’re just a boy with the blues (boy with the blues)
what for the love that got me so high remember the days that made us feel so alive we’re out on our own inside the city tonight (a dream is all i need to get by)
#call and response going crazy here#when I see Wandering Star I think it must be the most insane song ever and then I remember A Dream is All I Need to Get By#go on and lay it all out there NG#lyrics analysis#gcest#gallaghercest#oacest#oacestposting
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Les Inrockuptibles, December 1994
Today, Noel writes everything, lyrics and music. Is this way of working likely to change?
Liam: (Drawling)... I don't think so. I write stuff in my room, but I’m nowhere near my brother’s level. He’s not only a better songwriter, he's also a better man, a better person: more grounded, more intelligent than me. I love him, I admire him more than anyone else. Me, I'm a sack of shit... Noel writes all the time. He works hard, much harder than me. When he arrives at rehearsals, everything’s ready. The first few times, he sings himself. I hang back and watch. I learn my part by watching my brother sing in my place.
Noel: The kid wrote two songs for Oasis two or three years ago. I told him to stop straight away, he’s not cut out for writing. Whereas I'm hard working, a perfectionist. Writing songs is my job. To write, I need to be alone, in silence. With just enough alcohol and drugs to keep me awake. Without the help of drugs, “Supersonic” and “Shakermaker” would probably never have been released. On the other hand, “Live Forever” and “Slide Away” are love songs. They came to me very naturally.
#saving for all the times ppl on reddit say Noel never discouraged Liam’s songwriting#liam gallagher#noel gallagher#lg#oasis#oasisposting#ng
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I think Liam is the same as Noel as far as having to have someone all the time.
Trapped? Not exactly that but….Liam is in an extremely vulnerable position if he wants to exit the relationship. Good rule of thumb is you don’t shit where you eat.
We tease here about Liam being a girl, but if I reverse the genders, it wouldn’t look good. A manager who handles the details of a woman in show business and is in charge of it, she knows nothing about money or how to manage it, he follows her around like a hawk to the point where she doesn’t go to the bathroom by herself…
It’s not a situation I would be thrilled about if Liam were my loved one, for sure.
The best thing I can say is that Debbie seems to be very good at her job and she’s stuck around shepherding him through 3 solo albums and rebuilding his brand.
That being said, Liam solo tours are a different animal than an oasis reunion money-wise. I could definitely see a future where he gets done with this tour and, a couple years later, she’s taken off and he’s left with his dick in his hand and the same amount of money he had going into it. He’s absolutely ripe to be taken advantage of financially for sure. I’d bet the house that if someone called him up today and asked him “how much do you have and where is it” he wouldn’t be able to answer that question. Noel could. And he could before his divorce I would bet.
Liam’s not even a particularly good person in relationships, which would make it easier for a bad actor to justify themselves. Stop following him to the bathroom and when the inevitable happens, clean him out.
I’m not saying Debbie IS a bad actor, of course I don’t know her, and she could have the best intentions and love him dearly. But Liam’s a great mark and if she doesn’t, he’s fucked.
I agree to disagree about Sally (a little bit). I think Noel is a guy that has to have a parter no matter what. She seems really into him but to me he seems like he loves her but not "in love" with her. But again what do I know !! His track record isn't the best either, he walked out on Louise after years for the band and we all know what happened to Meg. I only hope she is a good women and isn't clinging for the money. but again what do I know !! Liam is the one we should wonder about. Is he trapped or is it like Ozzy Osborne syndrome with his Manager/wife ? it seems to me he was lost and she came along and now she is his whole entire life, except for the band. It will be interesting to see if she isn't cheated on. Maybe that is one of the reasons she is "imprisioning" (sic) him when everyone thinks its because of Noel !?
Noel 1000% has to be in a relationship; he's never really been single. It's a bit hard to tell with Sally right now because I can tell she knows people are filming them, so she looks uncomfortable to me. The closest Noel has ever looked “in love” with a woman is with Sara; he always just gives bestie vibes with women, so I don't hold that against Sally.
On Debbie & Liam's relationship, I don't think he's trapped. I don't think anyone could actually trap Liam. I think he's comfortable in the relationship; he likes having the "mommy" girlfriend who does everything for him. Thinking back to Patsy's book, where she said when she & Liam were together, he wanted to do every little thing together; the problems started when they were apart because Patsy had her own career. Debbie's career is Liam, so this is the first relationship he's been catered to like this. I do think her following him everywhere is to keep him from cheating. Linda McCartney did something very similar. Is any of this necessarily healthy? No lol, but I don't see either brother being in a completely healthy average relationship, they run on dysfunction.
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Just got back from lost tapes tours. Tim abbot remains my sworn enemy but I did flip him off as I left
#Tim “they’re in love with each other really Abbott#“they never get along when they’re married do the maths#this guy knows where the bodies are buried#gcest#gallaghercest#oacest#oacestposting
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Something something love and the sea #thinking
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Q Magazine August 2005

NGHFB “Wandering Star” 2020
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