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hot take: in order to criticize the Israeli government, you need to know more than a Google search’s worth about the Israeli government

here are some examples

criticism: Benjamin Netanyahu is a dangerous, ineffective leader that must be removed from power and the Likud party does not have anyone’s interests in mind but their own. Compulsive conscription manipulates the valid fears of Jewish Israelis & diaspora Jews (lone soldiers) in order to make the actions of the military seem permissible no matter the circumstance.

antisemitism: Israel is a genocidal settler state that needs to be eradicated and no one on Israeli soil should be treated as a civilian because all of them are settlers

see the difference?

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a really worrying thing i've seen happening because of this war, and nowhere else, is the tokenizing of jews, but for villianizing purposes. for example, "this one jew told me that from the river to the sea is not antisemitic, so i'm gonna keep saying it, despite how most jews are horrified by it, and how it's been used by extremists and terrorists, and is the one thing jews asked us not to say"

"this one jew from the settlements told me they were taught the meaning of zionism is jewish liberation on the expense of palestinians, so this is the objective definition of zionism for me, although most jews would disagree with it, and although it's a radicalized version of zionism, taught in a radicalized place"

"a few israelis put up a sign that says "zero people in gaza", so i'm going to assume all 7 million israeli jews are blood thristy murderers, despite how they've been massively protesting against their far right government for 10 consecutive months now, and despite how the majority of them wants a two state solution"

this behavior is not only dangerous as it leads to radicalization, but it says a lot about how it's been reserved for jews, and literally no one else. gentiles are obsessed with using us, for both condemning and glorifying purposes.

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Thank you for demonstrating my point, you won’t believe anything we say. Only on Instagram I found the content translated

It happened in Israel, so only Israeli people were there to give testimony… but you don’t believe Israeli people, do you? So there’s no way to make you believe it, which kinda means you just decided, based on what aligns with your views and morals, what happened.

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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Not our children right?

You people take so much pride in believing women and children, but you’re oddly selective about the women you choose to believe.

They fucking filmed everything but you make up your little fantasy of freedom fighters fighting the big bad colonizers to ease your white guilt

I don’t think you’ll be this chill about it when they’ll come to “decolonize” you

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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I’m so confused right now😂 you’re not even denying that the knife attacks happened, yet it’s not terrorism…? Should we be nicer to people who stab others? What’s even your point?

You don’t get to use the “I speak from experience” card against me. I live where this is happening, you don’t. I’m the one running to the bomb shelter, I’m the one who personally knows people who were hurt, I’m the one who’s best friend is a paramedic who lost two friends and colleagues in the line of duty. It’s a fun debate topic for you, it’s a reality for me.

You take so much pride in opposing your government, I really encourage you to ask yourself - what’s more important to me? Being a “good leftist”, always in the opposition no matter what, or being a critical thinker?

I don’t really think you care or actually want to understand, but I’m taking a leap of faith here, you’re more than welcome to scroll down my blog a bit to find a debate I had with another user, who seems to share your views. Unlike you, she was respectful, so we actually had a good talk. I will not waste my time on you since there’s nothing I can say that will make you believe me. You’ve made up your mind ages ago and you won’t let a few facts change it.

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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Hot take: "killing a lot of people" isn't genocide in and of itself. Genocide requires very specific circumstances and intent, not just "many people killed"

Also, having more casualties doesn't automatically make someone the "good guys" in a conflict. That's just not how things work.

(By "hot take" I mean "fact many people won't like because it counters their attempted justification for Jew-hatred" by the way)

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I hate to say it but everyone saying there's Pre-Holocaust vibes are correct

We're seeing a massive spread of unchecked, unrepentant antisemitism spreading quicker with social media now. People are cheering on murdered Jewish kids and then fact checking us to tell us it didn't happen

Blood libel is gaining traction like never before all the while Jews in the Diaspora are being attacked

So to all you proud Nazi Punchers, I must ask,

Why are you standing by, letting this happen, repeating things the Nazis could only dream of? Why aren't you standing up, dismantling antisemitism in your movement, helping Jews once again forced to hide in their homes?

Or was it never about protecting Jews? Just about protecting your egos

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Are you stupid or blind? How are murder and mass rape helpful for a prisoner swap?

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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Always respectfully, of course❤️

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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I’m so fucking curious as to where you get your news from, it sounds hilarious

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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You do realize that the women and minors held in Israeli prisons were convicted of terrorism acts right?

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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Lmaoooo you don’t need to give me a map I literally live here

Honey, do another google search, see where the most populated area of Israel is. Don’t act naive, nobody’s buying it.

You know what? Maybe you specifically don’t want jewish genocide. I’ll give you that. But that’s what your main catch phrase means.

And don’t get your nose too high, Israeli leftists have done more for Palestine than every purple haired white kid at Columbia ever will.

All you freedom fighters, if that’s the way your allies are speaking maybe it’s time to rethink where your loyalties lie.

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Because it’s not a singular threat. That’s what the majority of your movement stands for. From the river to the sea means jewish genocide.

All you freedom fighters, if that’s the way your allies are speaking maybe it’s time to rethink where your loyalties lie.

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All you freedom fighters, if that’s the way your allies are speaking maybe it’s time to rethink where your loyalties lie.

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Thank you for your personal note. I don’t usually engage in this type of conversation, mainly because most people who confront me on this platform rely on antisemitism and fake news for their arguments. I also appreciate you making an effort to avoid developing hatred as a result of this discussion. I will say, and not as an attack on you, that it is very hard not to feel offended when you use the term “terrorist” to describe my only home and my friends and family members who serve in the IDF (required by law) to defend their own children, and the children I teach, and myself. I know I will not change your mind, and as you said the main point of this back-and-forth is to share points of view, but if you take anything from this I hope that it’s to stop using this term. You definitely should be critical of Israel, but calling it a terrorist state is taking away our legitimacy to exist, and even directly endangering both Israelis (Jews and Arabs, who make 20% of our citizens) and diasporah Jews.

I am a bit confused as to your previous statement that Israel does have a right to exist, in contrast to this last statement that the historic precedent is irrelevant.

Israel really has the worst public diplomacy ever. It’s a very heated discussion within the Israeli public right now, and we’re very angry at our government that for decades neglected this topic and failed to explain our situation to the world. At this point, we have no chance. No matter what we say, most people won’t believe us. And to be perfectly honest, if I wasn’t living here and seeing it with my own eyes, I wouldn’t believe us either. It’s that bad.

The IDF is partially funded by other countries, mainly the US, but I don’t see how that’s relevant since it’s not unprecedented.

A few days ago I posted on my Hebrew sideblog a long post about the fall of the good-bad narrative and the rise of strong-weak instead. I thought about translating in to English, and if I do I’ll make sure to tag you. But in short, considering power dynamics and oppression is important and encourages nuance, but in extremist circles, it also leads to a new kind of dichotomy, where people believe that if you’re oppressed you’re allowed to do anything. This is a very dangerous and slippery slope.

I agree with you, we do seem to have inherent disagreements. I think it’s a good time for me to withdraw out of the discussion, for two main reasons: first, there’s not much to discuss anymore. There’s no point to arguing who was here first, and if it’s even relevant. Second, and on a more personal note, I am very tired of justifying my own existence and right for safety again and again. I appreciate your enthusiasm and sense of justice, I just feel like I’m in a different position here since it’s happening in my home and I don’t get to put this aside if I don’t want to think about it anymore. It’s just very draining, especially when I’m trying to communicate very complex thoughts and feelings in a language that is not native to me.

I wish you well, and be sure that if Netanyahu stays in office a single day after the war, you’ll see me and my friends on the streets again, with the Israeli flag in one hand and a sign reading “Democracy or Mutiny” in the other.

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.

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I think we have a mixup of the different hostage deal suggestions, I myself am not sure. We all know Hamas would have used this time to regroup and try to recreate October 7th. Hell, they admitted they will do it again. I haven’t seen information on why exactly this deal didn’t happen, but Hamas loves playing this game of maybe these hostages but not the other ones, maybe the foreign citizens, etc. but I hope we can agree that it’s not a reasonable or sustainable precedent if we’re trying to release all 240. My theory, and it’s just a theory, is that Hamas is publishing their suggested deals and then not executing them, to make it seem like they are willing to release the hostages. They are very manipulative and have great PR.

I’m so glad I looked over your blog, because I remember that you recently reblogged a post about legality being about power and not about morality. So why are you suddenly so enthusiastic about the international law? Not saying that the international law is not important, but feels kinda like a double standard.

With the ambulance situation, I think it’s an over-simplification to say that it was an assumption. You’re right, the IDF if very well funded and (usually) has an incredible intelligence force. Considering how this attack was very precise, and so rare that it made headlines all around the world, I believe it’s safe to assume that they had definitive evidence.

Regarding your third point, what do you define as Palestinian land? I believe in a two state solution and I believe Israel should pull out of the West Bank (like we did in Gaza in 2005), but Israelis and Jews specifically have a historical claim over this land too. Do you see what Hamas did as invading Israel’s land, and therefore by your logic, justify Israel repelling them? This also raises another question, how do we prevent Hamas from attacking us again if we ceasefire now and leave them with weapons and tunnels and rockets?

And I’m sorry if I’m a bit harsh in this last point, but less people die in Israel because we have our shit together. We have invested billions of dollars on defense systems like Iron Dome, we have an incredible reservist force that left home the moment they got the message. More people die in Gaza because Hamas, the ruling force there, doesn’t invest in defence at all. You said, and I agree, that the people of Gaza shouldn’t be punished for the actions of Hamas. And the people of Israel also shouldn’t be punished for having our shit together. We don’t need to feel sorry for staying alive. The IDF can only be precise to a certain point, but when terrorist bases are literally under schools and hospitals there’s only so much we can do. So much more people died in Gaza because no one is protecting them, not because the IDF is “punishing” them. And they deserve better, and it won’t happen with Hamas around.

Honestly, I’ve always been one of the people who call for immediate ceasefire whenever things got bad with Hamas, and exactly for the reasons you call for it now - I care about human rights for both Israelis and Palestinians and I don’t want people to get hurt. War is bad.

But now? I think calling for ceasefire without any conditions is borderline offensive. This last attack from Hamas was unprovoked, actually Israel was about to increase the number of people from Gaza who are allowed to work in Israel, and it was so brutal and inhumane and really like nothing we’ve seen since Isis. And now we know better than ever that we can’t live so close to this organization without compromising our safety. And us, Jewish people, are the only community in the world expected to live this close to such a violent terrorist group that wants to destroy us, and not do anything about it. If we ceasefire now it will happen again.

I don’t want to be at war. I don’t want innocent people to die, no matter where they’re from. And I’m glad our army has declared a humanitarian area in Gaza for people to evacuate and recieve aid, and I think we did it too late. We could have done better.

I know. It’s not ideal and I wish no one would have to leave their home, but this is not “ethnic cleansing”. Do you honestly think that evacuating people from a war zone is as bad as killing them all? Come on. We are doing what we can to keep as many civillians as possible alive, while not compromising our safety. And if it makes you feel any better, israelis living close to the front were evacuated too.

Some wars are necessary.