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The Jolly Good Show Caper (A British Retrospective) [Obviously Spoilers for that Episode]
As someone who is half British, has been to London, lived in England for a while, has studied History as part of my GCSEs (or high school if you're in America) and considering its November the 5th as of writing, I felt it was my obligation for me to look back on The Season 3 Episode 5 "The Jolly Good Show" and give my thoughts on it. (Don't worry its just me waffling about an episode and what I think. It's just for the fun of it. ALSO sorry if I got some things wrong)
(DISCLAIMER: I have not been to the Tower of London in person, I just did my own research. I am also not a professional when it comes to all history. So make sure you fact check and let me know in the comments)
So anyway, I tried to do it in order. Here we go:
Zack saying that they're driving on the wrong side of the road is probably not that surprising considering that roughly 30% of the world's countries and 35% of the world's population drive on the left which includes England.
Player describing the Tower of London as a fortress, prison etc is pretty spot on. I highly recommend going there yourself
Carmen saying that St Edwards Crown was used to crown all of the Kings and Queens since 1911 is half wrong. According to Wikipedia (I'M SORRY):
Versions of it have traditionally been used to crown English and British monarchs at their coronations since the 13th century
The original crown was a holy relic kept at Westminster Abbey, Edward the Confessor's burial place, until it was either sold or melted down when Parliament abolished the monarchy in 1649, during the English Civil War.
The crown used today was made for Charles II in 1661 to crown him. It's similar in weight and size to the original but its arches are Baroque.
The reason why Carmen may have said what she said was because the tradition of using St Edwards Crown to crown Kings and Queens was revived by George V in 1911
Player is right to say that there were attempts to steal the crown jewels. The most well known is Colonel Blood's attempt. Funnily enough, the guy got out scot free and still got his pension. https://youtu.be/iRmBE6B8F7I
Player also describing Bondfire night is pretty spot on. The Gunpowder Plot happened in Nov 5 1605 as a result of a group of Catholic men, led by Robert Catesby (not Guy Fawkes), trying to rebel against the Protestant King James 1 because Catholics back then weren't on the best of terms. Unfortunately the plot resulted in stricter laws against Catholics, don't worry the laws don't exist now.
Player "So, he was considered a hero or a villain, depending on who you ask"
Well, I've talked with some people and although we understand that the Gunpowder Plot was done because of the prejudice and oppression of Catholics in 1605 England, we agreed that maybe they should have dealt their anger differently. Maybe a way that doesn't lead them to getting hung, drawn and quartered. Either way, it's a complicated question that's up for you to decide.
Speaking of Catholics, I did go to a Catholic school and they don't celebrate bondfire night. My history teacher did ask if they could do it but bc Guy Fawkes was a Catholic and as Player said... they burn him... Can you see the problem?
And Shadowsan calling Bondfire Night chaos?..... how - dare - you.
The whole "if the ravens leave the tower, the kingdom will fall" is an actual myth that the writers were spot on about. Charles II is thought to have been the first to insist that the ravens of the Tower be protected after he was warned that the crown and the Tower itself would fall if they left. That's why the raven's wings are carefully maintained and there's even a Raven Master.
Carmen saying "That's not the loo" is kinda on point. Normally they would also say "loo" or toilet. Also, Ik this is a cartoon, but I can assure you that the guards would be a little more suspicious if she got into a place she wasn't supposed to.
The entire Zack and Ivy fish and chips thing is on point. Although some places still use newspapers, we normally just use hard paper like newspaper to wrap it. Ivy also saying chips and crisps is also correct, glad she was paying attention.
Zack feeding fish to the ravens is not allowed. sniff sniff... He really is a criminal through and through. I'm so proud. (JK! It's a joke. Don't feed the ravens!)
The Troll says "London Bridge is falling down my fair lady". This was to communicate the death of the Queen to the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and key personnel, setting Operation London Bridge in motion. So theoretically, does The Troll and VILE want Carmen (the Queen) dead? Jeez, why did I go that dark?
Fun fact: 1968 and 1971 the bridge's facing stone was dismantled and shipped across the Atlantic Ocean to the U.S. state of Arizona.
When The Troll says that Red Rat is ready for takeaway - there is a takeaway box (like take out in America) next to him... and it's even Chinese. Not gonna lie, I'd go for the Indian takeaway instead.
When Carmen gets "arrested", the police uniforms that some of them wear are based on The Bermuda Police Service and to be honest in November, the Metropolitan Police would be wearing yellow jackets. Seriously, how are these people not freezing!?! If this was real life, at least the police would search Carmen's coat and let her wear it if it's that cold!
When Roundabout steals the Crown Jewels (wow... never thought I'd say that), he doesn't wear gloves. This isn't a British thing but generally, why would he do this without gloves? Like, if you're being a professional criminal, you would know not to leave fingerprints anywhere. Honestly it feels like Carmen is the only one who follows this logic!
Funny that Roundabout (an Englishman) gives the jewels to Le Chevre (Frenchman). Sorry, there is a joke that England and France have been rivals for centuries and it still exists in rugby and football (or soccer). SORRY AGAIN!
Throughout the episode they refer the iconic bell tower as "Big Ben". In actuality the name of the tower is Elizabeth Tower and Big Ben is used as a name for the largest bell in the tower. Ironically, the Big Ben bell might be where Shadowsan picks up his weapon.
When Zari drives Devineaux, the seating inside the car is correct for British Standards of driving.
When Roundabout is about to stab Shadowsan, he says "Mind The Gap". I've used the Underground and the saying is commonly used as a visual and audio warning that you hear all the time.
When Roundabout says "you git", it's pretty mild to what most actually use. If it's casual we would use the b or c word (I'll give you a hint. The b rhymes with mastered and the c one rhymes with Brunt.) but I can't say it because I don't want any younger ones using it yet. ;)
Carmen :"Sorry mate"
Look, it's a cartoon... but that... that hurt my soul. THAT IS FAR FROM A CONVINCING ACCENT! British can tell from a mile away!
You could've said "Sorry, love" or "Sorry, you alright?"
AHAHSHegJHSGFFB.... Apologies.
Towards the end of the episode, Team Red are standing at Westminster Bridge.
The "God Save the Queen" in the credits is obviously outdated but it was fun to listen to.
My opinion:
Most British terms are used correctly.
Most of the facts are accurate according to what I looked up
Everyone involved needs to get thick jackets for November weather, especially in the evening.
Police uniforms for some are incorrect but some are right.
WORK ON YOUR ACCENT TEAM RED!
Back to accents, I feel like most of the British cast had the Queens accent like what most media portays. It would have been nice to see other accents like cockney, scouse etc.
I thought it was a good episode and the scene of Carmen getting arrested gave me chills.
Anyway, that's what I thought. Thanks for reading.
REMEMBER REMEMBER THE 5TH OF NOVEMBER!
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Carmen Sandiego Incorrect Quotes
Zack: Ah shit, I forgot. Ivy: Forgot what? Zack: How do you expect me to answer that? ----- Ivy: Can you be serious for five minutes? Zack: My record is four, but I think I can do it. ------ Player: I did it! I memorized everything in the book! I'm gonna ace this test! Zack: Ok, Player, I'll give you one more question before you go. What ended in 1918? Player: 1917. Zack: …You're ready. ------ Player: What's the scariest horror movie you've ever watched? Carmen: IT. Ivy: Annabelle. Shadowsan: Paranormal Activity. Zack: High School Musical. All throughout high school I was scared that everyone was gonna randomly get up and start singing and dancing, and I would be the only one who doesn't know the words. ------ Julia: Isn’t it a bit dangerous? Devineaux: Agent Argent, please. We’ve been in a lot of unexpected predicaments before and we always escape unhurt. Julia:... Devineaux: Okay, we sometimes escape unhurt. Julia: … Devineaux: Alright, we escaped unhurt once… Then we hurt ourselves on the way home.
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Hello welcome!
I see many people do this, so I guess a welcome post calls!
Stuff to know:
My main fandom is Carmen Sandiego but I like other shows including Gravity Falls, the Owl House… I can’t think of any other ones right now
I’m a gamer! I enjoy Zelda especially!
I like Disney, History, Comedy (The Princess Bride) and Animated Movies
As you can probably tell, I love history (for any CS fans, I guess you could say I’m a Jules)
I’d like to stay anonymous so you can call me anything.
Hate me all you want but I like to write fanfic. I gotta get my creative juices flowing somehow. Especially for Carmen Sandiego
[Controversial] Pineapple on Pizza is amazing!
Did you know that humans are the only species on this planet to have chins?
Also more importantly, no hate speech or anything too political.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy the rest of your day.
Stay dazzling - HA!
(Oh wait that’s taken… hang on)
Arridaverchi!
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I guess you could say that VILE attempts for villainy go a bit "vile" don't they.
(WHAT? The show has too many puns to begin with! I tried to resist!)
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Someone give Player a hug. Poor kid’s been through so much…
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Yeah, that checks out...
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Therapist! NOW!
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Looks like Le Femme Rouge STOLE my time
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(I will see myself out)
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Chapters: 11/? Fandom: Carmen Sandiego (Cartoon 2019) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, No Archive Warnings Apply Characters: Carmen Sandiego | Black Sheep, Player (Carmen Sandiego 2019), Zack (Carmen Sandiego), Ivy (Carmen Sandiego), Lee Jordan (Where on Earth is Carmen Sandiego) Additional Tags: random crappy post, Sequel Series, Shenanigans, Warning:swearing, oneshots (kinda) Series: Part 2 of Carmen Sandiego Sequel Series Summary:
This will make sense if you read the Carmen Sandiego: Sequel Series Summary I did: https://archiveofourown.org/works/57642664/chapters/146681731 These are mini fan fics that I do in the spur of a moment because I can't be bothered to write out the entire story of my imagined sequel series. It features the members of the recently reunited Team Red and Lee Jordan. There may be angst, rubbish humor, horror! - but mostly fics that a person with CS fever wrote who wants more from the series but is too scared to ask the creators and come forward with their ideas!
WARNING: MAY BE CRINGY AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY MISCHARACTERISATION.
ALSO: I DO NOT OWN THE NAMES OF THE CARMEN SANDIEGO CAST (FROM THE GAMES AND SO ON)
MOST IMPORTANT WARNING: FEATURES GRAPHIC MOMENTS (BLOOD AND GORE - THATS IT), SWEARING AND VIOLENCE.
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Can anyone at least agree with me on this?
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Hey! I found an old comic I made… don’t judge my drawings - I AM NOT AN ARTIST!
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Dexter Wolfe head canons
This fan base seems to be dead but hey:
Dexter Wolfe used to be the youngest to ever become VILE Faculty - he was 24. This title would be taken by his daughter at the age of 20 or 22
He inherited the Faculty seat from his parent.
He met Valdez on a Bank Heist, she was a bank teller. Wolfe basically had flirted so well that Valdez wanted to talk to him again.
Wolfe did have a crush and tried to flirt with his partner in crime (Codename: River) Lee Jordan.
When Carmen was born, he debated whether to let her train to be a thief to keep the tradition of his criminal bloodline. Him and Valdez had an argument and it pretty much decided that Wolfe wants his daughter to choose who she wants to be. He’ll tell her he’s a thief eventually. Then he died.
What if Interpol only found out that Wolfe was in Argentina because someone else snitched on him? Not VILE though.
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Team Red Meme
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My thoughts on Inside Out 2
It’s cliché at this point but it was actually good.
I liked how it picked up where the original left off with its character development, especially Joy and Sadness.
It might be just me, but I think Riley is more expressive with her body language in the second one compared to the last one.
I also felt like Anxiety was handled well and it’s cool how it acknowledges that the emotion doesn’t go away completely, it still sticks around. I felt like most films say that anxiety is bad (because it is) but I feel like it’s ok to have a little anxiety so at least you can plan for the future and remember things, kind of like how Anxiety remembers important things like the Spanish test at the end of the movie. It only gets bad if you have too much of it and it completely dominates your life - as shown in the main conflict of the movie.
Although I have never had a full blown panic attack (hope not to), I think the scene was handled really well because it shows the different perspectives of what happens. It changes from an outsider to Riley herself then to the inside of her head. I have seen people talk about how Riley processes the attack and grounds herself which I think is great.
One thing I will say about the film is that I didn’t come as close to crying compared to the first one.
Also it casually called me out for having a video game crush and liking a “kids” show(ahem… Bluey, Carmen Sandiego… AHEM!)
Additionally: THIS MOVIE HAS WAY TOO MANY MIND PUNS!
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Dexter Wolfe head canons
This fan base seems to be dead but hey:
Dexter Wolfe used to be the youngest to ever become VILE Faculty - he was 24. This title would be taken by his daughter at the age of 20 or 22
He inherited the Faculty seat from his parent.
He met Valdez on a Bank Heist, she was a bank teller. Wolfe basically had flirted so well that Valdez wanted to talk to him again.
Wolfe did have a crush and tried to flirt with his partner in crime (Codename: River) Lee Jordan.
When Carmen was born, he debated whether to let her train to be a thief to keep the tradition of his criminal bloodline. Him and Valdez had an argument and it pretty much decided that Wolfe wants his daughter to choose who she wants to be. He’ll tell her he’s a thief eventually. Then he died.
What if Interpol only found out that Wolfe was in Argentina because someone else snitched on him? Not VILE though.
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Chapters: 11/? Fandom: Carmen Sandiego (Cartoon 2019) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Characters: Carmen Sandiego | Black Sheep, Player (Carmen Sandiego 2019), Zack (Carmen Sandiego), Ivy (Carmen Sandiego), Lee Jordan, vile, Shadowsan (Carmen Sandiego) Additional Tags: Post-Canon, Season 5 ideas, Fanfic Ideas, Future Season ideas, dadowsan, OC, Dead Dadowsan/Shadowsan Summary:
So I saw a post on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/carmensandiego/comments/1eb8d3a/carmen_sandiego_the_next_chapter/ This is what I would like to see if Carmen Sandiego got revived for Season 5 This features original characters and concepts that I wanted the original to explore
Update: I realized how big this is so I'm just going to add Chapters here: 1 - Season 1 Overview 2 - Season 2 Overview 3 - Season 3 Overview 4 - Season 4 Overview 5- Season 5 Overview 6- Random Caper Ideas - Season 1 7- Random Caper Ideas - Season 2 8-Random Caper Ideas - Season 3 9-Random Caper Ideas - Season 4 10-Character Concepts 11- Lee Jordan (Kinda OC) Lore
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