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Hey! I love your thoughts!

@mmaricarmen23 you definitely summarised why Shadowsan’s character is interesting- He’s very complicated.

(I’m just gonna rant forgive me)

I think the show definitely should have tapped into his flaws more often and how even then he should take some responsibility.

For some reason I couldn’t help but think at the “soldier’s orders to obey” quote of a social experiment. It was done shortly after a Nazi criminal trial when the scientist was curious about following orders when it involved doing something horrible to other people. Like how far would it be considered orders or personal values? So the idea was to see how far people would go to following orders or whether their morals would stop them. This was done by the participants administering (fake) electric shocks on the “student” (actor) when they got the question wrong. The shocks only got more extreme with it going around 300v. It’s called the Milgram Experiment and surprisingly around 65% of people actually went through to 300v and beyond. Although the validity is debated.

keep in mind the social experiment was done in an controlled environment. So in this situation, maybe the participant would probably be pressured by the authority figure. But there are other times where it could be influenced by other people doing the same thing.

Like Shadowsan could be ordered to kill by authority, peer pressure (from Yakuza and VILE?), self motivation or indoctrination?

sorry analysis rant that got wayyy off topic.

thanks for reading 😅

I feel like some people really undermine characters they don't like and elevate characters they do, take gray and chase,

Gray, according to canon, is one of VILE's finest and dr bellums favourite student, we know from the book that he made inventions, there was a electrical grid something I don't remember exactly what, but it was there, also he beat all the ACME agents when he made his escape, but I've seen people thinking he's not competent, at least two the other operatives.

Then we have chase, who found VILE island and is very obviously clever but held down by his arrogance and unwillingness to listen to other people, he is not a himbo, but I've seen people make him incompetent in many fics.

Contrast to julia, who I've seen people make a genius, like no, she's not, yeah, she's academically smart, doesn't mean she's a genius, it takes a lot more than that.

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French Connection Caper: Coach Brunt vs Carmen fight - and Dexter Wolfe

Remember the fight where Carmen almost died?

Ok - I think I need to be a bit more specific...

So when thinking about the fight between Carmen and Coach Brunt with Dexter Wolfe i mind, I couldn't help but wonder what Coach Brunt was thinking.

So Dexter Wolfe was probably very well respected in the Faculty because they compliment his daughter for her natural pick pocketing skills since birth just like him.

But you have the other side of the coin where they probably felt really betrayed when Wolfe tried to leave V.I.L.E. I would guess that Brunt especially because as we've seen, she has a strong sense of family and loyalty. Especially to Carmen.

So I'm thinking 2 things:

During the fight, there might be guilt Brunt carries for not only hurting Black Sheep - sorta - but her friend's child. I think you could sort of interpret her offering Carmen a second chance as a bit of a peace offering to Wolfe in the afterlife.

During the fight, Brunt feels little to no remorse and probably is enjoying the fact that she's getting a sort of revenge against Wolfe in spirit by almost killing his daughter. The fact that Carmen looks and acts like him in some aspects (grey eyes and literal master thief) kinda would give Brunt reason to think that she's taking her anger out on Wolfe for betraying. I think this one gives real sins of the fathers vibes.

COULD BE BOTH

Idk, something I thought of just now.

Love to hear your thoughts... actually:

@frozenwolftemplar, @backofthepencil11 and @mmaricarmen23

I feel like you might be the best people to ask... sorry if this feels awkward!

Anyone else: Feel free to chip in!

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Lee Jr + Carmen associations

I read a HC that Carmen has strong emotional associations with certain things - so I have an idea.

Lee Jr

He used to associate the colour red with blood and death because of his mother’s traumatic death, this made him initially not like the colour red.

NOW he associates Carmen with the colour red which suggests reassurance

Carmen

She used to associate scars with pain because she has some from capers and her most traumatic experiences.

NOW she associates Lee Jr with his scar across his face which also suggests reassurance.

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Lee Jr and Ivy Incorrect Quote (kinda)

Ivy: If you're driving and you see Chief and Jules - what do you hit? Lee: Hmm... Chief Ivy: THE BRAKES LEE! THE BRAKES!

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About The Deep Dive Caper and Carmen's skills

Not only is it just a tragic episode for Dexter Wolfe and Carmen in general - but the scene where Baby Carmen is taken back to V.I.L.E. really stands out to me. Especially these quotes:

Bellum: My pocket protector!

Brunt: Well, well, looks like lil' lambkins is a natural-born thief.

Bellum: Like her father.

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Shadowsan: "We entered a pact to keep your lineage secret from you"

Not only does the scene illustrate how the Faculty hilariously reacts with children (especially Cleo and Bellum), but it also makes me wonder how far does Carmen's thieving roots go.

With the word "lineage", you could interpret it in 2 ways:

It refers to the similarities between Carmen and Wolfe only

It hints that thievery has been in Carmen's family for a long time (I'm leaning more towards this one)

The quotes from Bellum and Brunt may also make it clear that thievery has been in Carmen and her father's instincts since birth which suggests that maybe the Wolfe/Sandiego family tree has the thievery passed from generation to generation for such a long time that it's practically an in born skill.

That makes me wonder if most of Carmen's family were V.I.L.E. Faculty since its founding. This would probably make Wolfe and Carmen's ascension to Faculty an inevitable tragedy if you think about it.

BUT

What if Baby Carmen stealing the pocket protector without Bellum finding out was a complete fluke?

Maybe she was trying to get Bellum's attention and her baby fingers just grabbed it.

Maybe the fact that she was cuddled by Brunt could have wired her brain to thinking that it was the way to get approval by the Faculty at that time - and that's why she felt like she had the skill ingrained into her.

Then again, it makes you wonder whether her skills are truly her nature or nurtured. If Carmen was told off in a more serious tone, would that mean that her thieving skills would have developed later and she could have a slightly more difficult time picking the skill up or would she have kept her skills anyway?

IDK, let me know!

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Irony of my fan fic (Lee Jr and Carmen)

It's more of a historical irony about the Falklands War

The Falklands War was a conflict between Argentina and Britain from April to June 1982. The war was fought over the Falkland Islands which are close to Argentina.

The irony is that Lee Jr is Filipino - British who has lived in the UK since he was 10 whilst Carmen is Argentinian yet they become allies in their fight against V.I.L.E. and the Establishment.

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Hey! CS Fans! Which continent are you from?

I'm a little curious to see which continent has the most CS fans - just out of curiosity. You don't have to answer if you don't want to

Feel free to add which country in the comments/ reblog if you like

:)

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Carmen Sandiego Characters and Zelda Things they make me think of: Carmen (Spoilers)

She makes me think of:

Let me explain:

BREATH OF THE WILD

The game revolves around Hyrule 100 years later after the Calamity where you play as Link, a knight held in stasis for 100 years and lost his memory, to defeat Ganon. Not necessarily 100 years but I feel like it parallels Carmen’s journey of rising up from her emotional trauma in her time at V.I.L.E. The amnesia Link has could parallel Carmen knowing little about her past and her discovering it with the viewer (or player for Link)

The game focuses on open world exploration - I thought it was fitting for Carmen because she travels a lot and values her freedom. Although TOTK does the same, it’s more about making things in TOTK to get there (which may be more fitting for Ivy)

Ngl, with the open world and rising up from destruction theme may get Carmen to play it. (I’ll be honest, it was the first Zelda game I played and I still get shivers from the opening scene)

Link’s Awakening

(This one I haven’t played. So bear with me)

The game revolves around Link (a different one) getting stuck on an island and needing to wake the Wind Fish to escape. This parallels Carmen’s childhood of being at the Isle of V.I.L.E. Now that I think about it, her waking up to the reality of the nature of V.I.L.E. parallels when Link wakes up at the end of the game to find it was a dream and the island disappeared.

The toy design in the remake makes it more childlike.

This one is a bit iffy to if she wants to play it or not.

On one hand, it would be interesting for her to retread something familiar in her past and maybe help her accept it

On the other hand, she may not want to because she doesn’t want to be reminded of it.

Anyway, that’s my thoughts. Feel free to contribute!

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Lee Jr meet Trey Stirling

(This is probably one where I had too much fun insulting Trey Stirling.)

(Lee, Zack and Ivy go to a pub outside of Silverstone after seeing the F1 races)

Zack: Did you see how fast they were going?! They went faster than Lydia could!

Lee: Well, I’d imagine because they are F1 cars… not NASCAR.

Zack: Even then… I’d go on one!

Lee: Then crash it… get real Zack

Zack: [Rolling his eyes] Thanks Lee…

Lee: No problem. Besides, the safest way is the simulator in their Museum.

Zack: Say WHAT?!

Ivy: Did you see how fast those mechanics were? They changed that Hammie guy’s wheels in less than a sec!

Lee: Hamilton… and - for an F1 standard - that was fast…

Ivy: Faster than you can say -

???: Big Z!

[Zack starts to bristle as he starts to turn. Lee looks behind Zack to see Trey Stirling walking up to them]

Trey: It’s been a while hasn’t it? Last time you… stole my car?

Zack: Grrr… we were trying to protect it BY stealing it!

[Ivy then pulled her brother back letting out a SH!]

Lee: [Leaning to Ivy] Who’s the blonde?

Ivy: Trey Stirling. Zack’s rage fuel…

Zack: And all around jerk…

Lee: [thinking] He can’t be that bad…

Trey: Oh, excuse me. That wasn’t very NICE Big Z. You forgot to introduce me to Mr Scarface.

[Lee let out a big sigh as he rolled his eyes - oh yeah… definitely an absolute di-]

Zack: [Putting his fist into his pocket] That’s Lee thanks for asking…

Trey: Right… well… nice to meet you- Lily. [Putting his hand out]

Lee: [He grabs Trey’s hand with a strong grip] It’s Lee actually, you deaf mate?

[Trey yelps as he pulls away, shaking away the pain]

Trey: No! I’m a racer! I’ve got perfectly good hearing!

Lee: Then you wouldn’t be raising your voice, would you?

[Trey will remember that…]

Trey: Speaking of racing, did Big L duo tell you about their - old racing career?

Lee: Actually, yeah.

Ivy: And we don’t need to go over it - don’t we? [speaking through her teeth to Trey]

Trey: [To Lee completely ignoring Ivy] Y’know, one time Big Z crashed and had his tires on the top… when they’re supposed to be at the bottom - ha!

Lee: [mumbling] yeah…. Like the shit coming out of your mouth

Trey: [offended] Excuse me?

Lee: Why, did you fart?

Trey: Do you know who you’re talking to?!

Lee: Think so… your chin look like you are a descendant of Habsburg Family.

Trey: I’ll take that as a compliment seen as I am racing royalty.

Zack: [whispering to Lee] Who’s that?

Lee: [whispering] I’ll tell you later…

Trey: I’m from the Stirling Family of Boston Massachusetts. Racing Empire.

Lee: … Trust me, mate. The only Sterling I know is the one I used to pay for this pint of Guinness. From the looks of it, doesn’t look like you want to pay for one.

Trey: Fine! I’ll prove it.

[He then slams 5 £20 notes on the table]

Trey: Here! Buy a lotta Guinness with that!

[He then walks away - exiting the pub]

[Lee, Zack and Ivy look at each other - confused]

Lee: Huh… I thought there would be more…

Zack: Well, thanks Lee. Seriously, one more word and I would have given him skid marks on the face.

Ivy: Yeah.. for Zack’s sake - thanks.

Zack: But who is that Habsburg guy anyway?

Lee: Right… just to warn ya - it ain’t pretty.

[5 minutes later]

[Zack and Ivy look at each other in disgust and shuffle away from each other after the explanation by Lee]

Lee: Told you so…

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From a Brit, yes - we can be scary.

Just look at our history.... and Birmingham...

babe, what did I tell you about watching carmen sandiego season 3 episode 5 right before bed?? it's too scary! you're gonna get nightmares!!

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Fic idea?

If VILE finds out about Player, how would it go down according to your words

Sorry, my english is not very good

Well, I think it would go like this:

[Player is hacking into a V.I.L.E base]

Player: Now if that SQL goes there… then this bar loads - the door should open.

Zack [On comm]: Is it meant to look closed?

Player: If V.I.L.E. somehow made special doors…

[Player then gets an incoming call from: ???]

[The call answers itself only to have a voice that clearly was changed with a … troll mask]

[Player felt himself freeze as the voice spoke]

Troll[voice changed]: Hello, little one.

Player[trying not to shake]: It’s Mr Little One to you.

Carmen [On comm]: What’s going on?

Player[to Carmen]: AH! Sh!

Troll: Am I interrupting, Mr Butcher?

[Player was relieved slightly. But he bristled at the name. It’s BOUCHARD - not butcher. Seriously it’s just a basic name!]

Player: No. Troll.

Troll: There’s a THE! THE TROLL!

Player: I’m still gonna call you troll.

Troll: UGH! Fine! I have your location and V.I.L.E. knows you work for Red Rat.

[Player was back to freeze again. This time, Ivy actually heard it]

Ivy [interjecting in the comm]: Don’t you ever call Carm that!

Player [voice now shaking]: Where?

Troll: In Canada. In Ontario. In a neighbourhood.

[Player sunk into his chair at every precise detail.]

Troll: In a… 1980s diner?

[Player let out a sigh of relief and thought to himself: Not even close]

Player: Are you sure?

Troll: Don’t you get cocky, my goons are there right now.

Carmen: Let me guess, The Goat and the Mole?

Player: Eh, same here Red.

Troll: I- SHUT UP! Your device’s location is right on my screen. So don’t try to run.

[Player then looked into his school bag to realise - he left his watch there.]

[With Troll saying he got Player’s location - he had an idea. Player started to trace the transmission then got down to the precise details.]

Player: Well if that’s the case, Troll. You’re in Dublin, Ohio, USA, where you are located close to the Cornhenge.

Zack: Oohh. Can we go there for a snack, please?

Ivy: [Player heard Ivy nudge her brother] Caper first. Snack later.

Player: Y’know Troll, you really don’t get out of the house often. Your cameras say you haven’t been out in 3 months.

Troll: What- how did you-

Player: Maybe you should rename yourself as THE Pylon…. Or THE Sitting Duck.

[The Troll has ended this call]

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Lee Jordan Jr vs Carmen Sandiego

A little bit of sequel fanfic world building. I got a little bit carried away so I thought it would be cool to judge who would hypothetically have an advantage. I tried to base it on traits and both are unarmed:

Strength/Power: Lee

He would physically be stronger

Agility and Speed: Carmen

Feel like she would be more agile

Endurance/Durability: Lee

(Didn't mention it/Spoilers) He takes a bullet to the side and still fights for about 5 minutes. He also somehow survives the drop of a small building, landing in a bin at 16 in his first caper.

Accuracy: Both

Both have been trained to place hits in delicate spots... like the liver for Lee and the face for Carmen (*nervous laugh*)

Battle IQ: Carmen (just about)

She is more rational and level headed compared to Lee, who is more reckless and short fused, which means she can come up with less dangerous plans on the spot. Have to give some credit to Lee on occasions when he's alone but he usually follows most of the time.

IQ: Both

Both have been educated decently. Lee was educated in school and was an average to almost high achieving student. I think we've seen Carmen smarter than most people in the show on multiple occasions.

Experience: Both

Both have had training from professional thieves. However, Lee had experience in the field much earlier to Carmen... then again, Carmen was trained under supervision which made her learning kinda more efficient and had more constructive criticism compared to Lee who was told what to do and berated by his uncle.

Control: Carmen

As mentioned earlier, she is more level headed. Additionally, she was trained under Shadowsan, who may be viewed as one who instilled strict discipline which meant more control. She is also a leader by nature which means she knows how to have control in a fight and remains focused.

Lee was disciplined as well but he sometimes lets his rage consume him and his hits start to get more sloppy as he makes them feel more painful. Therefore he's more likely to lose control and focus in what caper he has to do.

My Conclusion

Theoretically Carmen could win against Lee but it's very slim. Fighting is not all about strength and more about timing and placement, which Carmen might succeed in compared to Lee. However, it sometimes comes down to luck and what the characters are like during the fight.

At the end of the day, it's just a fanfiction.

Let me know your thoughts/add more traits in the comments!

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hey i never noticed the overhead light on gray's side of the train car was straight up broken. that's a fun little detail i wouldn't have spotted if i never sat here staring at this screencap pondering how the perspective makes them look so fucking small

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Carmen Sandiego (2019) Big-Bang Event!

Welcome CrimeNet Sleuths! To the official Carmen Sandiego Big Bang event!

The event is hosted by @random-remzy And will last from May, all the way to early September. 

The premise of this event is to introduce fans to new places, cultures and histories that weren’t explored in the show. It’s an opportunity for everyone to show a piece of their identity, as well as learn about new things in a creative and positive environment!

For those who don’t know what a Big Bang is. It is an event where Fanartists and Fanfic writers come together to create new and unique pieces for a fandom.  Traditionally, in a big bang, all artists and writers are paired up. However, due to the diverse set of identities that represent the fans, We’ve decided that being paired is optional, and if you wish to participate with a standalone piece, then that will be perfectly okay!

Everyone is welcome to join! All you have to do is join the discord server and sign up via the form! (Link will be posted soon!)

The discord server will open on the 9th of May, and will remain open until the 25th of May. After that, the link will be closed and the event will be officially underway!

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Hey! I’ve run out of ideas…

I feel like writing fanfic but I dunno what to write.

It is with great pleasure that I inquire if whoever is reading this to grant me assistance in this inquiry.

Or in other words… HELP!

Please…

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I did it! I made an actual fic!

https://archiveofourown.org/works/64938769

This is mostly a Carmen centered fic where she has a memory of her childhood self but then she discovers something a little traumatic as an adult that makes her view the memory a little differently.

So yeah... hope you like it.