yossipossi

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Wrote a short "true crime" story for my friend @stormbreath for the SCP Wiki's Art Exchange! Only about 2000 words — give it a read if you like crime mysteries!

"The Cold Cult of The Yukon", by Yossipossi

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I don't have anything to ask. I just wanted to say: thank you for SCP - 8980.

I finished part 2 of Exploring Series' video on it. I must say, the few comments I saw that either demanded you should have made a happier ending, or asked you to stop writing fiction because "fiction is meant to be an escape" made my blood boil.

I responded to someone then deleted my comment because I didn't want to start a fight in a YouTube comment section. It's 6 days into the new year. I need to give it a month before I hit rock bottom like that.

But really, who the fuck tells someone to stop writing fiction, or to demand a change to a story because they didn't like it. The entitlement. The lack of self reflection. I know they are coming from a place of pain, but it's their responsibility to address their trauma, not make every one else bend to their will because they can't handle uncomfortable situations.

Some treat fiction as an escape, but some use it to explore.

It's me. I do that.

What I love about 8980 is that it made me feel seen. Without going into the boring details, I spent a good portion of my life emotionally abused, gaslighting and all. It's like you took a mirror to my experiences and amplified them. I felt heard in a way I rarely do. I can tell you wrote this from a place of pain, and I thank you for sharing it with us. It couldn't have been easy to write.

Someone of my deepest wounds have only been able to heal by reading stories like 8980. They give me a place to explore the depths of my trauma in worlds that cannot hurt me because they are not real.

So truly, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.

I'm a writer too, and shitty comments can ruin my day, so I just wanted to combat that with some (rage motivated) positivity.

Ps. I will not be offended if you choose not to post this ask!

I get where they're coming from: they've been hurt and they want to lash out the pain, but because Byrnes is fictional they go for the next best thing: the author. I try to be compassionate to them, but I don't take their anger too seriously; I don't intend to stop writing because a Youtube commenter was angry at me, haha.

Nonetheless, I sincerely appreciate this message. I'm incredibly grateful I was able to help you, and it means a lot to me to see this. I actually teared up a little when I read it, haha.

I wish you success in your own writing!

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Dont wanna bug you but here we go

question 1: what is youre opinion on people who ships lillian with other characters?

Question 2:What happen to lillain after the etchines commitie take over of the SCP foundation in SCP 7777.

1: I'm pretty much against any ship with Lillian amongst the 8980 cast, save for maybe Flora Marinos. Still, if you wanna ship Lillian with someone, I can't stop you. Just don't like... DM it to me, or something.

2: Nothing explicit in the text, but in my own headcanon, Flora gets approval to transfer her to Site-43, where the cast of characters there help her recover.

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Multiple questions once again because yes:

1. Would FSD be limited in their power or disbanded altogether after the events of SCP-7777?

2. Would Flora Marinos be a good Ethics Committee chairman if she was one?

3. Do you have anything in mind about Flora Marinos' personality? Or do we just go wild with it?

4. Let's say, after Lillian began to heal and slowly comprehend what the fuck happened with her over the course of a decade, would she begin to hate the foundation?

5. What dynamic would Lillian and Marinos have if they knew eachother?

6. WHAT IS THE CONTEXT BEHIND THAT "Your author page is allowed to vore me" OFFSET FROM YOUR AUTHOR PAGE??😭😭 (if it's not a secret)

1: Nope! The FSD works strictly under Ethics Committee Guidelines limitations. They are, by and large, an extension of the Ethics Committee. Admittedly, though, most of their articles are too over-the-top for me to consider canon; I might write an FSD article in the future to demonstrate my own interpretation.

2: Definitely, but she'd hate the stress that would come with it.

3: Old and tired.

4: Almost definitely. She probably did while in containment, too.

5: I have no clue, to be honest.

6: Ah. That. Well, I did call it an authorphage...

(I plan on removing that offset eventually, but it was a funny joke at the time.)

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I know not all information regarding the characters in the 8980 article hasn't been expanded on since I heard it's still in development, I believe (like the Site-43 transfer of Lillian). I've got questions on if these would be expanded or written on or not. Wanna include some observations I have, so behold my ramble

1: Lillian said in an interview that she stopped being religious when she was fifteen. Didn't get along with her parents, and it said in a documentation on who she was talking with when she exploited the code in containment, Lillian talked more to her mother than her father, which makes me wonder what her parents were like and why she talked to her mom more.

Micheal Crawford isn't talked about really, let alone at all, but I think he offers more insight into Lillian's life and not as obvious implications.

Michael feels like those crazy Ex's, and I think it's implied that he stalked Lillian from "knowing more about her than she did about him" and Bynres saying he's one of her college exes. I know it doesn't have to be that Lillian wasn't into men from her sexuality, more like they weren't her type I should say, or perhaps it was conditioning and pressure to date someone, preferably a man. It doesn't have to stem from JUST religion, but expectations in general from both sides

(2) Side characters: I'm writing too much again, so I'll try to make it shorter. Crawford's internalized misogyny, along with implications of her life from "that's how I got my degree" when saying to view your problems like a challenge. I think it'll be interesting to see further on her backstory. Including that she had close ties to Byrnes and the case with the male humanoid leading to her being fired.

Steele being absent from almost the entire article reflects her disinterest to Lillian's situation greatly, and it makes sense to. I don't know why she catches my eye more than the others, and I wanna know more about her, much like the entire cast.

About the art I made for the designs, there's a lot I wanna say about the design choices since I put a lot of thought into them, which is why it took as long as it did. As for the question if there was gonna be further expansion on the characters, I wanna say to take your time as much as needed since I heard your experiencing ?burnout. The 8980 article made so many horrified, and it definitely must've made you, the author, feel that way too, to a greater extent. I don't know exactly how I can say this, but I hope you feel better in any certain way. Take your time with your works as long as needed. That's all I got on this

1: I didn't have anything in mind for her parent's characterization, but I imagine she would talk to her mom more than her dad in her situation because her mother would be more understanding implicitly.

Michael Crawford was indeed written as a generic stalker. As for Lillian's sexuality, I think whatever sexuality she would possesses could have some interesting theme or commentary attached to it, so I'll leave that to individual authors who choose to write stories with her.

2: Crawford is one of the more interesting character to me in the 8980 story. It's clear she's both a victim of circumstance and a perpetrator simultaneously, which makes her among the more nuanced characters in 8980, along with Marley herself. I very likely may write more about her in the future — possibly even have an article dedicated to Case ID #07082012-9932-T — though I don't control the muses in my brain, so no promises :p

Steele definitely occupies a unique role in the story, so I can see why she'd catch your eye. Her punishment is, ironically, the most severe in the story in spite of doing the least, which serves to contrast how Morgan McPharrell "got away" with taking credit for most of Lillian's work on the manifold problem.

I think for the most part, Steele escapes the misogynistic influence of Byrnes by being "a bitch": she's tall, no-nonsense, and does her job precisely. She encompasses attributes that would typically be considered ideal in a man, but are considered negatively in women. And because of this, she's able to — at least somewhat — repel people like Byrnes and survive in a system typically stacked against her. Lots of interesting ideas to explore, there.

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Will Lillian ever be happy?

You'll probably be surprised to hear this from me, but yes, I think she eventually begins recovering, especially after the events of SCP-7777. In my own headcanon, at least, she eventually is transferred to Site-43 by Marinos and starts to pick up the pieces slowly but surely.

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What does Lillian think about McPharell? And do you think if she found out about the email he sent to Marinos, she would hate / dislike him?

Also, what would Marinos think about the email McPharell sent her?

Honestly, I'm not sure Lillian *has* an opinion of McPharrell. She probably wouldn't like the email but she wouldn't say anything about it.

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SCP-8980

Included the side characters (excluding Michael Crawford) because they deserve attention as well other than Byrnes stealing the show with how hate-able he is.

McPharrell, Steele, Amnesthesiologist, Marinos, and Crawford

The reference I used (taken off Yossi's answer to my Ask)

Hope ya like the art. There would've been a Byrnes design drawing, but I've been busy with my other art-related projects, so I'm not starting that currently. Doesn't mean I won't make him a design though,,

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I can't stop the 8980 GRIND 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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You could have done way more to help me.

It's your fault

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Are you fine with ships with Lillian?

I would ask this anonymously if there was an option

You'd have to ask her, not me.

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Do you think it's possible for Lillian to go down the "abused becomes the abuser" pipeline?

Maybe. It largely depends. But I can't imagine she *wouldn't* have some instability after being "freed" and not lash out occasionally. Still, I doubt she could even remotely reenact much of what was done to her.

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I've read 8980 three times for the drawings and a deep dive. I still have these questions about the article.

1: The Clearance Levels appear to be different from what Articles and Tales I read on site. I'm curious if there's a hierarchy for Clearance Levels and what the system looks like.

2: This can be excused by there being no canon, but I questioned if it was intentional. In the Site-17 Deepwell, Allan Weathers got promoted from Site-17's Director to O5-4, then Thomas Graham took Weather's former position. In the reviewer annotation, Weathers is a Senior Researcher and Graham's Site Director.

3: At Addendum 10: Neutralization. The interview between McPharrell and Marely, it implies that McPharrell only just noticed the "several alarming features" Lillian possessed. This can include not just demeanor but her appearance. Also, Prior to Byrnes retiring, McPharrell (and Steele) were in violation of gross negligence, so that can tie together.

Including "Testing 8980-C-36", it can be used as a containment procedure. In that case, whether Byrnes did this on purpose for indirect contact with Lillian or not is in question for me.

4: When describing Lillian's mental state at the end, my brain can't decipher what her overall behavior would be like, so I was wondering if I could have a rationale of it.

I know I'll still be asking questions regarding your articles and for other stuff. 8980 was a very interesting article to dive into. The 8980 drawings are at a halt from my art project being due, but I should be back at it in around 3 days.

Sorry for the late reply! I forgot my inbox had messages haha.

1: I think it's more realistic for the Foundation to mete out specific clearances for specific things rather than just use a 1-5 scale for everyone and everything. The EthComm and RAISA would definitely have their own clearance hierarchy too, which I've seen reflected in some other articles.

2: Honestly unsure. I used Weathers because I needed a name and I asked Nagiros if it made sense to use him in this context at this time. Ve said yes.

3: Not *entirely* sure what you're asking here 😅

4: Well, she's definitely a mentally fatigued and abused person. She had difficulties forming and maintaining interpersonal relationships because her social interactions for ten years were mostly just Byrnes and occasionally someone else who were always clinically detached.

Her technophobia not only stems from Byrnes's technology-oriented abuse of her, but also from that fact that — as mentioned at some point earlier on —NETLOG got depreciated and was replaced by Framerail, so she has to relearn everything she was doing before and it's just too overwhelmed, especially combined with an intrinsic fear of failure coupled with fear of punishment.

The other psychological symptoms mentioned in the article are mixtures of coping mechanisms and neuroticism from being confined in a cell for a decade.

I'm glad the article was captivating enough to warrant three (wow!) rereads and a deepdive from you. I hope I could provide satisfactory answers!

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chag christmas to those who celebrate!!!! or happy christmas i hope i'm saying it right hehehe i know it's not tradition but i hope you have some sufganiyot anyway 🥰 so sad its only one day tho 🥺

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Party rock is¹ in the house tonight Everybody just have a good time (Yeah)²

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¹Pretty sure it’s “party rockers.”³

²LMFAO’s “Party Rock Anthem,” Sorry for Party Rocking, 2011

³It’s “party rock is.”— Ed.

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Oh this hits good