yosefkarga

[yosefkarga]

I too stand with Angela Carini, who apologized for not shaking Imane Khelifs hand, said that she respects her right to fight, doesn't have anything against her and would embrace her if they met again.

It takes courage to correct yourself, especially when the hate mob wants you to be their icon.

And yes, men don't belong in women's sports, which is why they don't participate in women's sports. Crazy how that works.

Men don't belong in women's sports

Let's get it trending 🔥

Source: Riley Gaines on X

[yosefkarga]

Lying when the facts are easily accessible doesn't work. Your type of misinformation had its place before the internet, try to be smarter with your propaganda next time ❤️

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Aaight yeah this is it. Can't make an effort to be honest in the face of such blatant hypocrisy.

[yosefkarga]

Yes it is. Terrorism and resistance aren't mutually exclusive, I mean the fucking word itself has its source in the french revolution (although they started terrorizing the people after winning).

Are you asking me if I condemn the dehumanization of Israeli citizens? Idk, maybe there's a reason I blame the IOF and the State and not the people in general. Still, Israel is "the only democracy in the middle east" so the people do bear some responsibility.

Is there any other option for Palestinian resistance than Hamas right now? Yes, they could rebel against a heavily armed violent group or they could wait (and hope) for the citizens of Israel to slowly vote a more humane regime into power. Hard to do when your people regularly get killed by the current regime though.

So by default, Hamas is Palestinian resistance. Which is not a good thing, but let's keep in mind who helped them to get to that position. And it's not just "PLO fuckups" or Hamas' false promises. Israel decided to play divide and conquer and it backfired hard.

[yosefkarga]

Look, you misinterpreting and me clarifying isn't backpedaling. I feel as though I need to clarify that, because this isn't the first time you take that shortcut to try and discredit me.

Now for one more clarification:

Did I say you interrupted me? I'm confused. You insist on your honesty so much that I want to believe you, but am I to explain all your misreadings? Are you just hovering over what I write? Couldn't blame you tbh, I don't always read all of your shit.

What I said was that you can't use this type of misdirection IRL because YOU will get interrupted while trying it. Idk just re-read what I wrote, I guess. This one isn't even up for interpretation, I was pretty clear.

And yes, you did directly quote me. And you did also add something that I didn't write (the 250/day number being applicable to the entire timeline), as can be seen in the quote.

As for the AP, a) you countered a claim you claimed I made, there's a difference. and b) they do clearly write that they disregard a part of the numbers stated by the MoH.

Concerning the slogans: as we agreed, context matters. On one side, you have people whose land was taken, chanting that their land shall be free. On the other side, you have people whose army is killing the ones whose land they took, chanting that they will outlive them. The context looks clear to me.

Clarifying once again: I did not say that you are a Holocaust denier. I strongly doubt that you deviate from any opinion supported by western media. Now just to be clear, the holocaust having happened is not an opinion but a fact (gotta put this one out there to prevent your big brain argumentation tactics). What I did say is that you use the same rethorical tricks as holocaust deniers.

Why does it apply to you and not me?

Let's make it easier for you and conflate Palestinian liberation with Hamas: The difference between Hamas and the Israeli government is that one side has genocide written in its charter, while the other one writes genocide into history right now.

And just for clarity's sake: I defend the Palestinians claim to governing their land, not Hamas' claim to kill all Jews.

Sadly, right now they are the only group willing to take up arms for the freedom of Palestine. I don't think that's a good thing, ideally the global community would make them superfluous and they would dissolve/end up in jail, but that's not the world we live in.

The global community has always looked away when genocide happened. We looked away for the native Americans, we looked away for the Armenians, we looked away for the Holocaust, we looked away for ex-Yugoslavia, we looked away for Rwanda and we look away for Sudan and the Uyghurs right now.

Why am I investing my energy into preventing the Palestinian genocide and not the others happening right now? Because people refuse to look away for once and I see a chance that we might stop it.

The goal right now isn't the full liberation of Palestine. It's to get the Israeli government to stop killing civilians. Yes that also means freeing the hostages. On both sides.

Once that's done, the next goal is to undo the damage Israel has done. That also means the dissolution of Hamas at some point. And the full restructuring of the State of Israel at the very least. I can imagine that being ruled by the people your government mistreated for 76 years is a scary prospect and I don't have a solution for that problem. But what I do know is that what's currently happening certainly isn't the solution.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Yeah and the résistance were terrorists to the Vichy regime. I won't argue about that though, but I might remind you of your current stance once you fall in line with the media you parrot when the slow machine of liberal opinion-making finishes turning its wheels.

This is not about generalization, but about the systemic dehumanization of Palestinian, especially Gazan people. Which also is applicable to a lot of different situations, but we are talking about this one specifically, no?

I really fall for the "I don't need to spell this out, no way they're this dumb"-trap every time, huh.

Oh and concerning your racism: it's always hard to make a racist see what they are. You have to take this journey on your own, but I'm nice, I'll help you on your first step:

Blaming the oppressed underclass for rebelling violently, after the oppressor repeatedly showed them that any form of "acceptable" protest will be met with extreme violence, while said oppressed class is oppressed because of its ethnicity (and religion) is a racist way of thinking. More clearly: honestly question on what grounds you give people the right to legitimate violence.

Do the Palestinians have a right to rebel against the occupier that robbed them of their land?

Why do you value the Israeli cultural belief of belonging more than the lived experience of Palestinians who inhabited the land uninterruptedly for generations on generations? This one's not fully relevant anymore since the Israelis born there since 1948 didn't ask for it. Then again, the Palestinians asked for it even less and their forced displacement hasn't stopped since 1948.

[yosefkarga]

Man I'm really sorry if I scared you, I assumed you would know the difference between a threat and banter. But that takes life experience I guess.

On a more serious note: you don't get the time to twist words in real life. The other person will just interrupt you as soon as you start wilfully misinterpreting. Because real life exchanges happen in real time.

I meant what I said, I didn't mean what YOU said, I feel the difference there is vital.

The swastika predated the Nazis, that doesn't unload it's meaning. Times change and context matters, saying you will outlive the people your army is killing en masse is a clear statement. At least in my eyes.

And duh, ofc the AP uses ministry of health data, there is no other source afaik. That doesn't mean they use it in good faith or aren't aligning themselves with US interests.

And this apparently will come as a surprise to you, but laser-focusing on perceived discrepancies to try and counter hard fact is indeed a Holocaust denier tactic (conspiracy theorist tactic in general tbh).

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Mhm. And Israel should've expected Hamas to attack them after years of oppression, killings and occupation? Or is it a one way street?

Btw this time you read like Trump in the way you write, really gotta love the range of racist bigotry you can channel.

What I would love for you to address is the use of the word "terrorists" when referring to civilians though.

[yosefkarga]

Mhm. Yea interesting.

@jraker4 are u gonna come and defend this one too?

[yosefkarga]

Swear to God every time I think I'll take a break from bullying you, you end up saying some shit so dumb that I can't help myself.

So: I haven't been engaging for a while, but you didn't seem to get the memo. Meaning I had to clarify, which I did.

It's also pretty obvious that you regularly check my blog, which, admittedly, is flattering in a way. No need to be shy about it, if I didn't want you to I could always block you. But it is fun to see you trying to write in a witty and sophisticated way. Makes me feel better about my own bad writing.

Now let me address your bullshit since you're begging me to: where did I say the IOF killed 250 a day "for 250 days"? I guess it's easy to put words in people's mouths when they aren't present to put their fist in yours.

My number is sourced from Oxfam, on January 11th of this year. I do know that the amount of confirmed killings/day has diminished since then (I'll get back to that later). But as you yourself have stated, the "we will outlive them"-slogan was already in use then. Meaning my point stands, regardless of your hair-splitting.

So once again, you decide to understand my words in the way that suits you most. That's okay though, since I now know that you're part of my audience, I'll be sure to idiot-proof my future posts, you know, to be inclusive.

Oh and if I can't trust the Gazan ministry of health, I really don't see how the Associated Press is a valid source.

On another note, every war (look I'm being nice and using a word that doesn't make you piss yourself!) has a large amount of deaths that only get recorded a long time, sometimes years after the end of hostilities. Especially when one side systematically destroys the healthcare system of the other and regularly kills journalists and foreign aid workers.

The 36.000 are the confirmed deaths. I strongly doubt that the actual number is below 100.000, and history sadly only confirms that suspicion.

Oh btw about Israel's efficiency in genocide (which is your holocaust denier-type argument in case you still haven't caught on): it's easier to get away with it when you do it slowly and quietly. They decided to go loud recently and would you look at that: they're slowly but surely becoming a pariah state.

EDIT: I just reread that first post. Wtf were you trying to say with the TV channels? I don't think I've ever seen someone fail so hard at an analogy.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Aight let me put this plainly one last time since you keep confirming your lack of reading comprehension: You've proven time and time again that you aren't interested in or capable of debating this subject above kindergarten level.

So I'm not going to engage anymore. For now. If I feel stupid some day and need to reassure myself that there are dumber people than me in the world, I'll summon you again. It's pretty nice to know that you'll always come running if I want you to, gotta hand you that.

Oh and one last thing: if you want to verify the statements I make, you can just Google them. That's the fun thing about facts: they're the same for everyone.

Figured you might not know that, since yours come straight from your imagination.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Oh honey do you really think I'd still be answering questions from you? You're kidding I hope.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Yeah I get the feeling that that's how you think it works. After all, why else would you keep claiming victory, knowing it isn't true?

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Keep yapping buddy, it won't un-lose you the arguments.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

I mean, I'm sure you believe that, but sadly for you, reality doesn't care about what you believe.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

You can blab all you want, it won't change that you can't challenge even one of my statements.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.

[yosefkarga]

Goddamn paint sniffer, do you have a humiliation kink? Can't find any other reason you'd keep coming for more.

First off, you keep proving you don't really understand the English language's nuances. There is no "if" indeed, I'm saying that their being there first is irrelevant, not that it's not true. Maybe I should start writing in simple english since you read all my posts, might as well make sure you understand them.

Once again, you're using the same rethoric as holocaust deniers, though I guess you don't see it since you don't consider Palestinians as humans. Israel being incompetent doesn't change what they're trying to do. But I did prove that by shitting on you in another thread so I won't bother doing it again.

Also don't be antisemitic, it's the Israelis, specifically their army commiting the genocide. Please leave the rest of Jews out of this.

At least make an effort to hide your hateful nature man like c'mon.

How old is the Jewish religion? How old is Islam? How old is “Palestine”? Which religion inhabited that area of the planet first?

You might want to learn what genocide actually is before posting the usual shite.