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yelling-laozu · 4 years ago

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I am reblogging this for my sake, thank you so much for creating this masterlist, I will read this. And I love everything about this 🥺🥺

28 Days BJYX Challenge

Day 8: Moment that made you believe BJYXSZD

I sat on this post for several days cos I found it incredibly difficult to articulate why I think they are SZD. A lot of it is just a feeling, a belief. How can one actually distill it down to a single moment or a few reasons? I tried my best but I still think it's inadequate.

I don't think there was a single moment or incident that made me believe BJYXSZD and I can't remember if there was a particular turning point. Along the way, as I watched more bts and interviews, read analysis/blogs, browsed weibo, gradually it just became my unshakeable truth. Love is love, and you see it if you see it.

Warning: long post ahead!

Disclaimer: The following are based on my personal opinions and should not be taken as fact or truth. Form your own judgement based on what you see/feel/think, whether or not you believe in SZD. I'm not trying to convince anyone but I'd be happy to engage in constructive discussion or debate. The thing is, BJYX as a concept can mean different things for each one of us, and even the SZD reasons can vary from one BXG to another.

1) Disregard of personal boundaries - Most people value their personal space and can feel discomfort, anger, or anxiety when their personal space is encroached. Permitting a person to enter your personal space and entering somebody else's personal space is, to me, a good indicator of how close two people are. It's mutual. There's a whole study on that if you want to google. From the bts and interviews, it's obvious these two have no concept of personal space. In a group setting, they're always stuck together; when sitting or standing next to each other, they're almost always touching; leaning close to each other's faces; overlooking shoulders to look at each other's mobile phones, butts touching while distributing drinks, touching hands, back, shoulders, necks, clothes etc. C-BXGs like to use this to depict them when they're together and with others around: 人从人. It doesn't mean anything but the first and last word is the Chinese character 'ren' (man) while the middle word is 'cong' which comprises two 'ren'. It's quite funny but true.

Personally for me, I don't touch other people at all, not even closer colleagues, good friends, relatives, immediate family members. And even when interacting with them, I keep a certain distance like at least 30cm. If I need to touch them, at most a pat. And I don't like it when others touch me, even my sister. The only exception? When I have a romantic partner. I don't claim to speak for the whole Chinese population but generally speaking, us Chinese are less physically affectionate with others. That's why we don't really hug our parents or even say I love you. It's the culture.

2) Casual intimacy - These two tend to display a lot of intimate behaviour that is unusual between close colleagues, friends or even bros. Like patiently peeling multiple lotus seeds for your bro, removing stray hair from their face, sharing a nasal stick, using and keeping each others' phones, caressing your bro's back/arm, stuffing objects behind your bro's butt during an interview, helping your bro to clear his seat of random items as he's sitting down, even going as far as to pull the item from under his butt, painstakingly scraping frozen berry/plum juice to form iced slushie just for your bro, blowing your handheld fan towards your bro's face while you stand in the heat, hands overlapping as you both grab objects, etc.

And this intimacy goes beyond just the physical aspects. Their 默契 (mo qi) or tacit understanding is reminiscent of a couple who has been together for years. GGDD have, on multiple occasions, shown that they can communicate without exchanging words. Like exchanging knowing looks before bursting into laugher, exchanging looks during interviews, GG understanding DD's silent request to count the beats and cue him during a Wuji performance cos DD's in-ear monitor had issues, etc.

The things that they do for each other and to each other shows a deep level of care and closeness, comfort level, looking out for each other. How about badgering your bro cos he refuses to eat proper meals, noticing that your bro has new bruises on his knees and nagging at him to wear knee pads, singing love songs to each other while locking eyes, or when your bro accidentally injured you and promised to do anything that you asked for and instead of taking advantage of it, you used the chance to get him to commit to eating extra portions of food?! And some of their behaviour goes beyond what's typically acceptable in a professional work setting, like sharing an in-ear monitor, interrupting your co-worker's interview, singing your co-worker's parts during a live performance because he's not feeling well that day, jumping in to answer interview questions on each other's behalf, etc. Some of these behaviour can be taken as rude or overstepping one's boundaries, especially in the entertainment circle where public image is everything and hierarchy matters (all the ge, jie, lao shi). Yet, they allow it and do it mutually to each other. Once or twice, maybe that's fine. But when two people consistently exhibit various intimate behaviour in various settings, tell me. Is this bro behaviour?

No need for words. Just tapping elbows will do. We are so in sync.

"Hey bro, you have a strand of hair in your face. Come let me help you." "Sure, bro!"

"Let me just lean over and pin my bro's arm underneath mine as I fiddle with the laptop."

"Silly bro sitting on objects again. I'll just pull them off from under his butt. He doesn't need to lift a finger I'll take care of it."

Any further and GG would be in DD's lap already. I consider the area surrounding one's inner thighs to be quite personal.

And I would never in a thousand years touch butts with anyone. Not even family. Not like there isn't space in front of them.

Edit: After checking out the livestream video, I'm not 100% certain but what's shown in the 5th gif might be more of an angle thing. GG might not have been standing as close to DD as it seemed. I aim to be as objective as possible so I'll disregard this particular example for now but there are still many instances of GGDD exhibiting behaviour that hints at their familiarity and intimacy. (sorry no eng subs in the video but some things need no words)

3) Double standards - I think it's quite obvious that these two behave differently around each other and treat each other differently, compared to other people. To date, GG is the only person who said DD talks too much; he's also the only person as far as I know who said that DD actually loves to smile/laugh. Everyone else, even DDU brothers, describes DD as quiet. Obviously DD does talk to others but usually it's topic driven, like about his hobbies or when they ask him questions. He also smiles/laughs quite a fair bit on TV, like during DDU, SDOC, the surfing show but again, those are usually a reaction to something, like when Feng-Ge does something silly. With GG, it's like another side of him is unleashed - smiles generously given, sometimes without prompts; the bantering; all the rubbish conversations they have; DD occasionally bordering on being (adorably) annoying; animated speech patterns and gestures (remember the bts where DD was gesturing with bichen while making fighting noises or the one where he was supposedly mimicking swimming); raising his voice at GG or saying harsh words eg. "say it again!"; gremlin behaviour and expressions; attention-seeking behaviour like asking GG if he looks handsome, etc. Do you really see DD behaving this way around a second person? The closest might be with his UNIQ brothers but even then, to me, the interactions still seem more reactive than proactive. Even DLS said during an ep of DDU, that DD would probably become very talkative when he's with someone he loves.

Same thing for GG. It's well-known that GG is a cautious and very PR person, very personable but slightly guarded. I can tell because I'm like that too. Like there's a work persona, friends persona and probably a persona when you're most relaxed, with your loved ones. When faced with DD, his public persona breaks at times. With others, he's a gentleman, very polite and professional; with DD, the rabbit teeth warning comes out, the 'shut up', 'bullshit', 'are you mental', 'you're poisonous' etc comes out, the whacking comes out. Same for DD. For someone as considerate and with high EQ like GG, is it really ok to behave this way towards a colleague or industry senior? (DD is his senior after all). Likewise for DD, who is always respectful towards others, is it really ok to treat a colleague 6 years older than him this way? Have you ever seen them doing/saying such things to a 3rd person? Maybe you'll say that GG horses around with his XNINE mates in the past as well, when he was in the early stage of his career and is less reserved. Sure, that's valid. He can be snarky and mischievous but if you watch their clips, a lot of it seems like he's playing it up for the cameras. He still treats the younger bandmates like his didi, in that he looks out for them like a big bro. Or look at his interactions with that little bro in DLDL. He obviously treats DD like his equal. It's just different dynamics. GG can also be flirty but have you ever seen him acting all whiny or 'acting cute/obedient'. "Old Wang, I'll do anything you say." "I was wrong.." "Don't leave pleaseeee." etc...Seriously his indulgence towards DD is on another level.

4) GG's ideal life painting - Much has been said about this piece and all the various candies associated with it. Personally, to me, all the analysis and interpretations - like the ripples forming DD's name, the snowy mountain, the sail boat, the shadow of the bicycle looking like a motorcycle etc - are secondary. What is clear to me from GG's painting is that, his ideal life involves him, a cat and a significant other (whose outfit looks suspiciously like one that DD has worn before), spending their days by the beach which he adores. His parents are not in it, no children either. There's no reason for him to paint a random beach goer in his ideal life, and he could have jolly well painted just him and his cat. That second figure is a significant other and that person is male. Period.

5) GG's songs - I don't know how many times I've said it but if you follow GG long enough, you'll know he looks at lyrics and there's always a meaning behind his song choices. He's intentional this way. I think songs are his love language. I usually try to keep an objective mind when analysing his song choices but I truly believe that many of them are about his personal relationship with his significant other (which to me, it's DD). I've previously discussed some of his songs in this post. And here's an compilation by Youtuber Xiao Man. In fact, since his comeback late last year, I feel that GG's song choices are getting bolder and bolder. In every one of them, they just scream BJYX. I did an analysis of his latest song performance here but his other song performances like To All Those Who Know My Name and Running To You With All I Have all made me 👀. The most telling choice was 相爱后动物伤感 (post coital tristesse) during the New Year's countdown earlier this year. @potteresque-ire has an excellent post here discussing this song and DD's corresponding Versace On The Floor performance. Even without going into specifics, just looking at the music video, it's a song about sex. However you look at it, it is a questionable choice for GG and not quite appropriate, what's more for a public performance for New Year's celebrations? I'm sure he can easily find another song that can hype up the crowd. So why this choice? Me thinks this is GG making a stand about his choices and declaring his love. After weathering through the 2*7 storm, really, what else is he afraid of? He himself said that he's not afraid to fall back into the bottom of the valley cos that's where he started from anyway. This also echoes DD's 'The Rules of My World', which I did an analysis of here. Their world, their rules, pay no heed to what the rest of the world thinks. As what GG sang during the song, "Let's love first, the sentimental parts can come later." It's like he's declaring: Come what may, I just want to share my love proudly and love (him) boldly for now. We'll deal with the consequences later.

I'm aware that what (1)-(3) might show is just that both GG and DD have/had a close relationship/bond, while (4)-(5) just suggests that GG is possibly in a relationship and that significant other is potentially male. But that's the thing with BJYX - unless both of them step forward to deny or admit anything, none of us can say for sure what this is, despite our conviction or accumulated clues/candies. It's all clowning and fictional, unless proven otherwise. And perhaps we will never find out the truth.

What's interesting about BJYXSZD is that individually, each candy (i.e. GG's blue hair piece or DDU bro's multiple hints) or even each 'category' (i.e. double standards, clothing, kadian) may not mean anything. Which is also why BXGs get so much flak from solos for being delusional. But collectively, when you look at all the occurrences together, there's an undeniable semblance of something there. Realistically, there is a limit to the number of times 'coincidence' can happen.

Which brings me to my last point.

6) The fandom still exists - The fact that the CP is allowed to continue, not just continue, but thrive. That's the most telling to me. Both of them have no qualms about shutting down rumours and fake news, or suing antis. DD's company has issued multiple statements about his fake relationships, often at the speed of lightning. He has also personally left a comment on Youku's Weibo post to correct their assumption that his Red and Blue Nike shoes post is about them; and if the latest rumours are to be believed, he has also taken actions to pull down defamatory online articles about him in his personal capacity (one of the articles was about him and GG breaking up). Same for GG - he shut down the CP supertopic between him and WZC, his studio endorses the XZ Anti-Fake News Weibo account, which helps to shut down rumours, including his latest dating rumour. GG himself even commented on Weibo in his personal capacity when someone said his idol Stefanie Sun is an obscure singer! This just shows that both of them are not above taking steps to shut down untruths if they really want to, and they have the avenues and platforms to do so easily. The fact that the 3 supertopics in Weibo are based on speculations on their top/bottom dynamics, and that sometimes the fans really go a bit overboard with their crude discussions or photoshopped images of them in various intimate poses. These alone could be taken as defamatory content and either of them could just shut it all down. Don't tell me GGDD aren't aware. C-BXGs are not exactly silent, with the giant banners during events, organising public festivals and exhibitions, hiring roving buses with GGDD faces together, composing original songs about BJYX, etc. But more than 3 years later, the fandom is still going strong, with millions of fans supporting this ship, and BXGs are still uncovering new candies every now and then. Why is the CP allowed to continue? To that I say, go figure.

These are considered mild edits. I've seen some very 😶🤒 edits.

Lastly, I just want to say that regardless of whether BJYX is SZD or not, at the core of it, I believe that true BXGs love and support GG and DD. They come first, the ship comes second. So rather than getting fixated on SZD reasons or getting riled up or discouraged over every single rumour that threatens the CP, focus on their works and personal achievements first. If there are candies, we clown and celebrate, then move along. As what GG says, 来日方长 (the road ahead is long).

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#yizhan #bjyx #bjyxszd #love is love

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yelling-laozu · 4 years ago

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I was enjoying these candies/rumors. Please give me more! Haha!

Ctto

This is in response to the Snoopy watch post from yesterday. I've seen some queries on whether the watch was actually gifted by GG, cos according to Chinese culture, it's bad luck to gift watches (we all know GG is a little superstitious).

In Chinese culture, giving another person a clock is considered taboo (not exactly a curse but it's just not a nice thing to do) because the word for 'clock' 钟(zhong) sounds exactly the same as the word for 'ending' 终 (zhong). So giving a clock to someone can be taken to mean sending someone off on their final journey in life, and implies that you are waiting for them to pass away. However, the word for 'watch' is 表 (biao) which doesn't carry the same meaning in this sense. For some people, they may still be particular so they avoid clocks, watches etc but in general, the younger gen seems to be more open minded and accepting of watches as gifts. On the other hand, in western context, watches can imply the gift of time, so it's can be used to say that you want the receiver to live for a long time. In fact for myself, I had an engagement watch instead of engagement ring cos I don't like rings. So just wanted to clarify this portion, giving a clock is indeed frowned upon. As for watches, it depends on the individual.

While some Chinese fans have identified the watch as the snoopy watch, note that this hasn't been officially acknowledged by Omega or Bo Xiao closet. We're all waiting to see a clearer picture of this new watch and await confirmation. But maybe this won't happen. I will be keeping an eye out for this but I won't be fixated on it.

Regardless, this doesn't negate the fact that this particular watch is chock-full of Yizhan symbolism. If DD was wearing another watch on his birthday, then he should definitely acquire the snoopy watch. If he's indeed wearing the snoopy watch but it's not gifted by GG, it still doesn't take away the meaning behind it. Of all watches, must he wear that, and on his birthday? If he's wearing the snoopy watch and it was indeed gifted by GG, then it's peak clowning moment. Then again, as if we would ever know who gave it to him. It's the same thing with the bone or ox-head necklace. We believe GG gave them to him but we don't actually know.

So just chill and enjoy the ride. Don't have to feel sad or disappointed or disillusioned if it turned out to be otherwise. After all, it's just one candy out of the many in the fandom. And if you think about it logically, how many of the confirmed candies are actually verified facts? SZD itself is also not verified at the end of the day.

On this topic, thought I'll share some other interesting superstitions related to GGDD.

Shoes (鞋 xie) is a homophone for 邪 (xie), or “evil,” so giving someone a pair of shoes is thought to be bad luck, as though you are passing an evil spirit over to them. Also, for couples, this is also normally avoided to prevent your significant from 'running away from you'. Which is why sometimes between couples, the receiver of shoes will pay a token sum to the gifter so in a sense, it's like they bought the shoes instead. IIRC there was a fake rumour about GG paying DD RMB 1 for shoes?

Wasn't there also a rumour that they share umbrella or had matching ones or something? It's also bad form to give someone or a romantic partner a fan (扇 shàn) or an umbrella (伞 sǎn), as the Chinese words for these objects sound like the word 散 (sǎn/sàn; to scatter, to part ways). So it implies that you want to end the relationship. Of cos this doesn't quite apply if it's raining.

The phrase 戴绿帽 (dài lǜ mào), which literally translates to “to wear a green hat,” means a man’s wife is cheating on him, so you should never give a Chinese man a green hat. As much as DD loves green, I don't think we will see him wearing one (please alert me if he has worn one before). There was a recurring gag on this topic in GG's episode of Who's The Murderer', where one of the characters would repeatedly remove his green ring and put it in his hair when it was implied that his wife had an ambiguous relationship with GG's character.

#bjyx

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