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do you think a secondary reason invaders are issued SIR units instead of more conventional, less autonomous information-gathering equipment is to give them a deferential, easily-anthropomorphized figure to act as the target for any isolation-spawned attachment rather than risking that attachment being directed toward the native species infiltrated?
because while irken culture discourages attachment in general, individual irkens are shown to be very much capable of it (see zim and gir, red and purple, skoodge and zim, and with a bit more inference tak and mimi + takship), which makes perfect sense: the reason humans have a social need, after all, is that our evolutionary survival strategy is to function as a tightly-knit group in which each member specializes in a particular part of the system rather than being self-reliant, in contrast to other, largely solitary wild animals for whom another member of their species usually presents a threat and elicits a stress response rather than filling a social need
by virtue of functioning as a sprawling society with individual roles to be filled, i'd say that, in light of the aforementioned individual examples, irkens are likely the same in having evolved to be in close proximity with each other at most if not all times - which i'd imagine means that even with the state of modern irken society as loveless as it is, there's still proximity. there's still people, even if those people suck
so when you're shipped off alone to a planet where, by definition, the real you must not be known by anyone and whose inhabitants you consider barely even sentient as outside species, it can't hurt to have with you a neotenous-looking underling who meets all the criteria for desirable companionship by irken societal standards - helpful, obedient, and physically unable to act against your interests or exhibit personality traits that could create friction with your own preferences
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bro. bro stop your toast is literally burning
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Everyone on this site thinks Dib would believe in the flat earth theory and while he does give off VERY strong flat-earther vibes, there’s also that one opening to an episode where he’s just angrily screaming about how Galileo was thrown in jail and how the people who said he was wrong would “be sorry” if they lived today or something like that
He isn’t the flat earther, he’s the one that gets irrationally ANGERY at flat earthers
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i gave up on this rather quickly, but hopefully you see the vision
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the joker is like ah yes my favorite song normal frog
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your fear is only a feeling but it’s painful why’s it painful?
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Listen Here
I have to say I dedicate this to the person who gave me such uplifting advice when I was depressed. It’s a shame, I don’t think they’ll ever see this or even know I’m talking about them.
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One big shift I noticed in Enter the Florpus that the fandom uses a lot in fanfiction is how the Tallest talk to and about Zim.
I would like the point out, the Tallest never say anything bad about Zim when he’s in earshot.
This isn’t disqualifying the fact that they talk shit about him to each other, and to the other Irkens on the Massive. Just never in front of him. They try very hard to keep his exile a secret, correcting themselves very quickly the few times they do slip up.
For example, most prominently, Backseat Drivers From Beyond the Stars, where Zim calls them to show off a plan of his and annoys them for three hours straight. When trying to come up with an excuse, the Tallest (Red, at least), make up some story about an enemy ship going up against the Massive, despite knowing that to any other Irken, that would raise doubts. They know Zim’s unbridled, faulty loyalty better than anyone, and know that they need to placate him, no matter how wild those aforementioned placating words are.
Another, much larger example is Battle of the Planets. Zim calls his leaders in a bear suit for seemingly no reason. the Tallest, along with every other Irken, watch him ramble about whatever Zim-like things he talks about, trying to stay completely calm. a noteworthy detail; they were laughing at him and mocking the fact that he wasn’t around to mess Operation Impending Doom 2 just before this. It’s only when Zim calls do they stop, and even then, they’re trying to hide laughter. Zim soaks up the “praise” of his leaders and his fellow Irkens before hanging up. Then the Tallest spill into laughter again. It’s rarely ever been in front of Zim. Ever. Because I’m sure that, as oblivious as they know Zim is, they must also know there’s a point where he’s going to realize they’re not laughing with him (even if this is never the case).
They don’t seem to completely despise him as they could have simply hung up when Zim’s constant yelling of ‘my Tallest’ got too annoying, but that’s a different story entirely.
Purple seems to have less of an issue of bullying the invader to his face, and Red is obviously the more work-focused of the two (which is debatable, as both of them seem to slack off a lot), as well as the one who keeps the secret about Zim’s mission and his disdain for him under wraps.
The movie, while admittedly changing a good few things about characters, butchered the Tallest the most, in my opinion. For Purple, it made complete sense to want to fly straight. he’s been childish a few times, and a lot more open about when he doesn’t like an order or anything else (see Megadoomer). However, Red was always the one that seemed to have things under control, at least a few times. When the Massive flies out of control, his first instinct is to run a diagnostic to find the problem, while his companion tries to save the donuts (this is not to say they differ too drastically in personality, as Red also wanted to save the donuts). For him to insist on flying straight, especially when there’s a very large and dangerous rip in space some miles away that he no doubt knows could hurt him and his companion, is a bit out of character.
When Zim calls, they make no effort to hide the fact that they’re annoyed with him, with Purple outright stating he liked him better when they thought he was dead. Red yells that they really don’t care about whatever he has to say. These are minor things, the only interaction they have with him in the whole film, and admittedly isn’t that telling. But I feel that short five minute was very telling to how they interact with him. Especially for newer fans who didn’t analyze every character in the show in comparison to the movie I’ve watched 20+ times now,
And a lot of fanfictions make the Tallest unnecessarily cruel, even going as far as to tell Zim, unprompted, to his face, that his mission is fake. Understandably, it’s possible for them to reach their limit and blurt it out in anger, but even then, Zim would just laugh it off, never taking it for what it is. Hell, the best example of the Tallest I’ve seen written ever is Forced Perspective, where they stuck to expected behaviors and, even when Zim asked about the legitimacy of his mission, stopped him from finding out. Zim finding out his mission is fake would make him want to go back to Irk, after all. And they can’t have that.
They know keeping the secret of Zim’s mission is crucial for keeping him away from them and causing destruction away from them, yet I feel that’s easily forgotten.
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ZIM being not a total sociopath compilation
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*intro to “The Frycook What Came From All That Space”*]
Richard: We were just talking about the episode we never got to do, which was “The Trial.”
Jhonen: You know what though, speaking of “The Trial,” this is a precursor to “The Trial” because you meet the, uh, Control Brains. There was supposed to be a lot more Irken society kinda stuff that made its way into the show, and the Control Brains were these Irkens that were basically bred; they were basically… I don’t know… genetically engineered to not have bodies. Their bodies were just brains. And they have giant versions of the backpacks that are plugged into the other Irkens.
Richard: But who were they engineered by?
Jhonen: The Irkens.
Richard: *laughing* What I love is they make something that lords over them! ‘Let’s create something that will be in charge of us!’
Jhonen: No, no, no, no, no! The Irken brains are created by… They’re created basically… They’re the ones that run everything. The Tallests don’t really do… The Control Brains are the ones that, you know, make the laws-
Richard: *still laughing* ‘We don’t trust ourselves! We should make our own-!’
*at this point the episode’s audio drowns out the commentators*
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About Zim
He’s an eager beaver
His favorite foods are sandwiches and Irken fundip
His favorite color is purple
He vents to strangers like he’s known them for years
He has the power to hypnotize people with his acne
The first thing he did after being born was hug a robot arm
His first three words were, “I love you”
He promised the moon to Gir
He finds technology and quirky gadgets “neat”
He likes moose (meese… moosen?)
Prisoner 777 made him a small, purple, moose, death machine knowing he’d like it.
He can easily become emotionally attached to objects, especially if they show some form of sentience (Ex: Robot arm, Gir, Minimoose, Squidgyblit).
There are times when he just wants someone to talk to. While he treats Gir like a companion, he can’t exactly have any real conversations with him.
He does NOT like to be ignored. Do not ignore the ZIM!
He looks great in hats
He’s actually a really good speaker and is great at motivating (manipulating) people to do what he wants (now Voting of the Doomed makes sense… he is a good politician!)
While small, he still has a demanding enough presence to immediately assert himself as leader among a group if he has to work with others. In a way, he does have what it takes to be a leader, but his obvious flaws impede him from being successful at most things.
His tenacity is derived from his need to constantly prove how great he really is, both to everyone (especially the Tallest), and himself.
His speech pattern is rather sophisticated most of the time, and the dramatic use of his lexicon is fairly impressive *sips tea*. He acts formal in front of the Tallests, but he’s more relaxed when hanging out with Gir.
He’s really patient with Gir and would do what it takes to keep him from getting upset, even if it means eating soapy waffles. This, however, is dependent on his level of frustration.
He’s a really nervous, loud, impulsive, proud, clever, small, tenacious space bug that yearns for positive feedback and attention from a world that could care less about him unless he poses a threat
Speaking of which, it is also evident that he craves affection, preferably from the Tallest (which is why he thinks they actually care about him). He wants all of Irk to love and praise him, and he seeks this attention by being the best at destroying stuff.
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