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Do ya'll possibly have a good Wonder Man reading order? I'd love to read more of his comics, I typically stay to the X-Men/Beast side of things haha

Hello! I wrote a guide on my main some time ago, here is the link.

This isn't quite a complete guide; as I mention, certain dynamic-specific issues that feature a relationship of Simon's but maybe don't say too much about who he is have been omitted, like his Ms Marvel appearances, random Hank and Simon centric issues, his WCA plotlines with Wanda and Eric, but I'll happily make a further reading section, if it's wanted :) hope this helps anon!

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your worst day as a mutant will be your best as an x-man.

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Avengers West Coast Vol 2 #74

Avengers Vol 3 #51

Uncanny Avengers Vol 1 #7

Just something fascinating about the way these two break up always has to do with Wanda saying she thinks of Simon as a friend and potentially even a brother figure first, and always a romantic interest second.

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Wonder Man headshot drawn for me by the wonderful @danmcdaid at Acme Glasgow comic con 😁 Dan also has an Instagram!

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We are men and mutants of action, after all!

X-FORCE vol 6 #49 (2024): "TARGET: BEAST PART 2" written by Benjamin Percy and drawn by Robert Gill

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I need your help. Desperately.

X-FORCE vol 6 #49 (2024): "TARGET: BEAST PART 2" written by Benjamin Percy and drawn by Robert Gill

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Can Simon physically experience pain?

Hi anon.

Simon is virtually indestructible, invulnerable, impervious to most things, so generally, no. I could list off numerous examples, but I'll stick to only three; he takes a bomb to the chest in Avengers Two and is just fine afterwards, is unaffected by bullets in Uncanny Avengers, and handles millions of amperes of electricity in Marvel Two-in-One #51 and is again, fine.

However, he is seemingly affected by negatively charged ions, at least in Wonder Man v3.

Eric's scythe is sometimes anionic too, so he's occasionally hurt by that. He also is hurt by people who hit really fucking hard, like Vision or Ultron.

He's also pretty beaten up by Hulk in Avengers #686

But as a general rule, I would say unless you have similar or greater strength than him, or have something really specific designed to hurt and/or kill him, he's not someone who experiences pain often.

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That sounds, um, terrifying.

X-FORCE vol 6 #49 (2024): "TARGET: BEAST PART 2" written by Benjamin Percy and drawn by Robert Gill

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Don't you recognise me, my friend?

X-FORCE vol 6 #49 (2024): "TARGET: BEAST PART 2" written by Benjamin Percy and drawn by Robert Gill

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i feel so much better already, being here with you.

X-FORCE vol 6 #49 (2024): "TARGET: BEAST PART 2" written by Benjamin Percy and drawn by Robert Gill

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i feel so much better already, being here with you.

X-FORCE vol 6 #49 (2024): "TARGET: BEAST PART 2" written by Benjamin Percy and drawn by Robert Gill

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Has Simon ever met dark beast?

No, they've never met and I don't think Simon has ever really acknowledged the existence of Dark Beast, which makes sense; Simon was dead while that arc was going on and it had completed before he came back, and Simon's never really been close to the X-Men enough to participate in those later arcs with Dark Beast. To Simon, it's a bit out of focus and probably hard for him to conceptualise because he wasn't there. It's not that he wouldn't be sympathetic but coming back from the dead and your best friend being like "yeah I was replaced by an evil alternate universe version of myself for a while and he had locked me in a stone wall and not a lot of people really noticed but I'm back now" is probably a difficult thing to think about for long.

This lack of closeness to the X-men is, I imagine, probably a relief to Dark Beast; Simon is very hard to kill for the most part, and even when you do manage he inevitably always manages to come back, and he knows Hank well enough to probably be able to tell if he's being weird. Because of his fame and his general indestructibility, he's not someone you can easily kill off and have nobody notice. Simon also isn't someone he could get to side with him, at least not for long; Simon's manipulatable, but also incredibly moral, at least in the modern day. There are certain things he will not do and he holds Hank up to a certain standard and I don't think will have too much problem throwing him around if he starts torturing people as Dark Beast is liable to do. And that's the other thing; despite not being the sharpest tool in the shed, Simon isn't someone you can really overpower unless your name rhymes with Four or Bulk. Just stupid enough for Dark Beast to feel less of, but just powerful enough to always be a threat.

I wrote a little bit more about how I think their dynamic would play out on my main blog, if that interests you.

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Can wonder man cry? Like physically?

Simon isn't often portrayed as much of a crier, so as far as on-panel evidence goes I'm not sure. He's more of a stares morosely into the distance type, as opposed to Vision who's a more elegant crier, almost feminine in a classic Hollywood kind of way. I'm going to lean towards logically no, because his "eyes" are generally described as pure ionic energy, so he doesn't really have any actual tear ducts. That said, we have seen Simon spitting up a pinkish-turns-red blood in Avengers V1 #686, so it's kind of whatever. I think Simon can probably simulate tears without really even thinking about it, but they're not true tears, but rather small bits of ionic energy he's dispersing because he is subconsciously simulating all of the effects of a human.

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The discussion of wonderbeast’s physical dimensions is making me think of that old tumblr post about a mattress topper reviewed by “variously shaped gays”. There was a third guy (occasional night visitor) who was even shorter and heavier so I can’t help but picture Wolverine as their third now

Simon and Logan have fought most of the time in their interactions, and obviously Hank and Logan's relationship has taken a distinctly sour turn so it's a curious thing to think about. The poor mattress topper may not survive the hate sex I imagine from this trio. But who knows, maybe they'd behave themselves because Simon doesn't want blood on his sheets.

from children's crusade and infinity crusade.

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What’s the timeline on Simon’s pacifism?

Simon becomes a pacifist in the Uncanny Avengers run. In issue 5, his first appearance in the run, he states that he doesn't fight anymore, even when his brother, Eric, is ruining a press conference by trying to kill the new Avengers (mind you, the Havok M word speech was being delivered, so he might have saved us). This continues throughout the run, culminating in this semi-famous page from #9.

There isn't too much of a timeline, to be honest. Remender chose it as a way of, I assume, wrapping up the Revenger arc from Bendis and setting him on a new path by giving him something to do that distinguishes him from the likes of Thor, Hulk, Colossus, etc.

In the Avengers Unlimited: Infinity Comic #55-#57, Simon does almost break his pacifism briefly to fight some demon, but ultimately manages. They have this line about him being on a team called Force Works, which I find weird, because he literally died the first issue and I don't think they even told him the name of the team when he died, but whatever.