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I want Whumpee to stumble upon Caretaker’s google search history and just see searches of “trauma recovery?” and “how to help someone with ptsd” and “how to make traumatized person feel safe”

especially if it’s a stoic caretaker!!

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If you’d like to elaborate on humiliating procedures please do so! Humiliation in medwhump is so underrated

Hi anon! I was wondering if people were interested in this, so sure!

NSFWHUMP WARNING!

(View at your own risk. I go into a lot of detail about methods. BIG TRIGGER WARNING FOR MEDICAL OR INSTITUTIONAL TRAUMA.)

THE Humiliating Procedures List

Enemas. The CIA used these in torture. Often involved “rectal rehydration/feeding” and of course led to prisoners defecating on themselves.

Forced Feeding. Another common tactic. The controversy about Guantanamo Bay revolved around the use of force feeding via nasogastric tubes (and/or enemas). If someone refuses to eat in CIA custody, this is what happens to them. Can also be used to force someone to drink a lot of water in a short time period, and reports say that some inmates were not let to the bathroom, leading to accidents.

Suppositories. After refusal to take medication by mouth, this is often the next step.

Gynecological/Rectal/Breast Exams. Can be very humiliating. Also worth mentioning the lithotomy position/stirrups (legs spread, knees up, body exposed under lights.) Can be abused when unnecessarily frequent or prolonged exams, done by opposite-gender provider without option for someone of the same gender or a chaperone. Worth mentioning “checkups” done after restraints or sedation.

Strip Searches/Cavity Searches. Sure, it serves a purpose, but it’s also used for intimidation or control. Similar details to above; abusable.

Urinary (Foley) Catheters. Need I elaborate? They give me the heebie-jeebies… I’ve heard about them used in torture and there are a few cases where calcified tubing has been discovered in the bladder, years after the torture occurred. Can be used not only to drain a bladder, but to fill one, and I can’t imagine how awful that must feel.

Urine Testing. Has to be done under visual observation (ensuring the sample is not tampered with) and can be very embarrassing. If you don’t give a sample within a certain time period, there can be threats of catheterization as well.

Diapers or Bedpans. For an adult who retains their faculties, this can be very demeaning and humiliating especially if in a forced context (like prolonged interrogations.)

Being Monitored 24/7 (NO PRIVACY.) It sounds really tame compared to some things on this list, but you try using the bathroom in front of multiple people, and see how that goes. Try having that go on for weeks. Often this is how “suicide watch” works in prison and in troubled teen institutions. Complete with an ill fitting smock or gown and voilá, there goes your sense of self.

“Dry Rooms” or Isolation Cells. No toilet, no clothing, no furniture, just a drain in the floor. You’re forced to relieve yourself in the corner or on floor. You’re under constant observation (either directly or CCTV), stripped of all belongings, the lights are left on 24/7 (sleep deprivation and humiliation combined).

Restraints. These can be humiliating because they’re a total loss of control. I see limb restraints used a lot in whump but I don’t see a lot of bite blocks or dental gags or other things like that. Gagging (the action, not the object) is also quite embarrassing if you don’t want it to happen.

Throwing up/Vomiting/Emesis Under Observation. Helplessness made worse when someone watches, records, or doesn’t help. Can be puking from NG placement, chemotherapy, or medication side effects, or literally being forced to vomit (physically or with medication). Being restrained or too weak to reach a bathroom (forced to vomit in a tray or bed or on yourself). Medical staff will note details like volume, color, consistency, it’s dehumanizing.

Drug-Induced Incontinence AND Sedation. Involves loss of control over body or mind. Diuretics or sedatives can be used intentionally to cause accidents or confusion. Imagine waking up to discover you wet the bed or were cleaned up while unconscious. See also “Chemical restraint” in psych wards. Don’t let the silly names for it like “booty juice” fool you, forced IM injections are very traumatic (and a common tactic in troubled teen institutions).

Intubation While Awake. One of my favorite tropes is when characters are intubated while conscious and/or paralyzed. No control over the most basic faculty of all, your own breathing.

Experimentation (in general). Forcing someone to undergo procedures they don’t need or want, making them entirely helpless. Their health, their body, is entirely dependent on whims of someone else. This can be things like being forced to undergo Colonoscopies or Endoscopies (without proper sedation. Also this is where the bite blocks come in, in endoscopies.)

Forced Bathing. Being stripped and washed by staff while conscious and restrained. Used in psych hospitals or during medical incapacitation. Can be used to shame someone who’s “made a mess.” Even gown changes can be embarrassing.

Medical Photography. “For documentation” but with a side effect of humiliating exposure. Getting photographed while naked, restrained, or during procedures is highly humiliating. Some examples are genital or injury documentation in forensic/abuse cases. Also used for documenting skin conditions like rashes or melanoma. In forced settings, you have basically no control over what’s recorded or who sees it.

Medical Error as Humiliation. i.e., imagine being “accidentally” catheterized wrong or being made to repeat procedures. “Oops, I guess you’ll just have to do it again…”

Hair Shaving (forced). For lice, surgery, punishment, or “depersonalization.”

Clothing Denial. Thin gowns that don’t close, removal of underwear, no control over coverage.

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Characters who are just small and scared and vulnerable on the inside, but it translates to harsh, strong and scary on the outside.

Their thoughts: "Please, leave me alone. Don't hurt me anymore, please don't hurt me."

Their words: "Touch me again and I'll rip your hands off and feed them to you."

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When Whumpers disregard medical ethics…

Medical team intubates a chemically paralyzed (but fully conscious) Whumpee after a torture session, casually discussing their survival odds nearby as if Whumpee can’t hear them

Secret government base using prisoners as medical test subjects;

OR using prisoners as test subjects for new tech and/or weapons

Putting implants (GPS trackers, controlled release medication, or maybe something more complex that tracks vitals) into whumpee

Procedures done solely to humiliate (the list is endless)

Sadistic whumper applies restraints for a procedure personally, brushing fingers over whumpee’s bruises just to watch them squirm

Of a similar note: whumper pressing their hand to whumpee’s broken limb under guise of checking for swelling, smiling at the pain reaction

Prisoner of war whumpee captured near death, treated for injuries (but without pain control, can’t be having any of that!) so that they can be interrogated for information later on once they heal

Whumpee injected with or given IV meds that hurt badly or burn going in (especially when a non painful method for administration exists and is totally viable, but Whumper wants them to hurt.)

Setting limbs without analgesia only to break them again (“if you scream, we’ll do this again”)

Needle phobic Whumpees forced to get daily injections

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What are some of the scariest things Whumper can say to a defiant Whumpee's "Or what?"

Oh very good question! I have some ideas:

"Behave yourself."

"Or what?"

"I could find another one to take your place."

"We could go pay a visit to [Whumpee's most feared]. See what they think."

"I took you under my wing. Don't get too comfortable."

"You think you're invincible. I promise I can do much worse than killing you. Without killing you."

"...I am finding it harder and harder to keep myself from doing something both of us will regret."

"I won't play so nice either."

"Have I been too lenient with you?"

"Haven't they had enough? Does it not hurt enough yet? You think they could survive another round?"

"That's right. Keep that spark alive, for the both of you. Your friend isn't quite as strong as you, are they?"

"Haha! You're a funny one."

"I know your type. You think you're strong. You break slow. I get to watch. It's always so exciting."

"It seems you misunderstood. Let me repeat myself."

"I will not repeat myself."

"You have five seconds."

"That wasn't a question."

"Do you want to see me angry?"

"You're going down a very dangerous path."

"What was that?"

"Say that again."

*the 'I know you did not just say that' staredown + silence combo*

*puts Whumpee's gag back in without a word*

"I will teach you respect."

"I can always make it worse. Remember that."

"You asked for it. Remember that."

"You are waiting for your friends to find you. You're stalling, or you think it doesn't matter what you do, you just have to survive until they arrive. It's very cute how you think there's still a way out of this. That I will ever let you go."

"Four." (Keeping count of Whumpee's misdemeanours. For later.)

"I love how addicted you are to making it worse for yourself."

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Have a painting that's actually an edit I made of a work in progress for the work in progress novella I decided to write three days ago

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You may only choose one

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Tropes part 2

Living weapon Whumpee that still can resist

TW: blackmail, conditioning, captive whump, pet? whump, mentions of torture, dehumanization, objectification

Whumpee that is mostly kept as one by blackmail rather then conditioning

They oppose any worse order, trying every time to negotiate and get out of, for example killing anybody, but the thing that is kept over their hand matters too much for them so they just give up

They refuse to believe they are being conditioned by the training and tell themselves they still have an option to disobey

Eventually they obey immediately any order they are given but don't even notice it still believing to have control, or they know their autonomy is no longer theirs but lie to themselves and want to believe in a delusion that they still can recover

By that time when they are sent on missions, they don't even think about running without the need to remind them of the blackmail

Another one can be the feral Whumpee, released in a controlled environment to get rid of the enemies as a last effort

They are kept in a cage, with a muzzle and restrains, treated by the Whumper like a wild animal

They aren’t allowed to talk, but they hiss and growl at their captors, staring like they want to kill with only their eyes

They try to run and fight when let free on a mission but the Whumper is too cautious, and closes every possibility, maybe in a modern scenario making the Whumpee wear a shock collar with a tracker and a boundary that will shock them when they leave it

At last, all they can do is to eliminate the targets and return to their captors like a good boy, maybe they get sedated by the collar at the end of the mission

Or maybe they themselves aren’t that feral but are given drugs/put under a spell before the mission and lose their mind, only thinking about killing anyone near them 

The third kind is the one too scared of torture to not obey

They hate attacking others and cry each time they kill somebody, they panic, beg and hesitate but do it nonetheless

That is because Whumper has a way to take them back and punish them if they disobey

So to avoid pain and out of fear they bring pain on others, they are a coward, but they can’t help it

Or they do it because they know that if it's not them, then someone else will take their place and there’s nothing they can do to stop it

So they take the burden on their shoulders, maybe because they want to repent for something, or they know the next person who will take their place and don't want it to happen

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Writing Prompt #3839

"Did you really think you were gonna get away with it? Did you think that we're all too stupid to see through your little game? You're pretty, but you're not a very good liar."

"You think I'm pretty?" He attempted his usually disarming smile, but found himself reaching for the door.

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I love the idea of a whumpee having a wardrobe malfunction that leads to a past injury/torture reveal.

Oh, your sleeve ripped and your whole team saw the brand your kidnapper branded you with? Delicious, tell me more!

Your shirt rode up when you took off your sweatshirt and your coworkers saw the scars from when you were whipped repeatedly? Oh boy I love that stuff!

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this is the funniest scp and yet i've never seen anyone posting about it:

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This here...

During a brutal beating, whumpee's knees buckle, they go limp. The only thing holding them up is their assailant. Whumpee is bleeding and slack.

Their assailant shakes them a few times to see if they might come back.

— they don't.

They're out cold.

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I love a good throwdown.

Someone in captivity is sure they're about to escape...

NOPE!

They get tackled down so hard the wind gets knocked out of them. Hell, maybe a few ribs get broken. Not only are they returned to captivity but they've earned themselves an extra beating for trying to leave.

Bonus points if security tightens after that. They lose privileges they didn't even know they had.

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I like to tell myself that the worldbuilding is done, at least in broad strokes, once I start actually writing. In practice I am known to invent major schisms in the world's history spontaneously if it fits the mood and themes.

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For the whump poll about what turns you off from whump fics, I usually feel icked out if there's a female whumpee with a male whumper. I know a kot of whump fans who feel similarly, and we think it's because we're all afab (mix of cis and trans) and tbh the world is just so full of male on female violence, it's kinda a... relief maybe? when the whumpee is male, or when the whumper is female 😅

If you want to find media where a woman suffers violence, the world is your oyster. You can just about turn on any show, watch any movie, read any book, and find it.

Far less do you see women as the perpetrators of violence, so even female whumpers feel like a real novelty in comparison to mass media. Women no do bad wrong thing, women cry sad looking pretty and skinny! 😵

When women are portrayed with real emotion, it’s a woman overwhelmed, scared, often helpless. In the face of danger, hysterical.

There’s a flip side to this.

Male characters are not allowed to have feelings. Angry, sure. But John Wick doesn’t cry. Where are the men hysterical in the face of danger, like the women are? Where are the men sobbing, terrified? Men can still be portrayed as the victim of something, but it’s always the strong silent type bullshit where they make a serious face and throw back whiskey instead of talking about their feelings.

The oversaturation of vulnerable and suffering women in media neatly pairs with the lack of vulnerable and suffering men.

The most common whump writing features vulnerable men. Men who are scared, helpless, struggling. Men who are written with the emotional complexity that is so often denied from them! We constantly see women in media as having no agency, but whump digs deep into the other side - men with no agency. Men who are forced to be obedient. Men forced into submission. How often are female characters subjected to these things? All the time. It’s not rare. That media is bountiful. But for men, it’s the opposite.

A lot of us in whump come here searching for the content that delves into the complexities of this far more limited content.

There is another big thing that hugely impacts this as well: People come to the whump community seeking content that explores the violence and drama WITHOUT A ROOT CAUSE IN SEXISM!!! Violence against women from men is always always always overshadowed by real life sexism that effects so many people every single day.

I think you’re really hitting the nail on the head about why so much whump is focused on male whumpees, and why many of us feel a different discomfort for female whumpees, especially with male whumpers.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

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As someone who is afab and likes reading/writing female whumpees, I completely agree with this. I completely get why people are uncomfortable with female whumpees. Also very true about men in media not being allowed to be vulnerable or scared.

What I find interesting is that I like lady whump (specifically with defiant female whumpees) for very similar reasons!

Most of the time in media (although it is changing) women suffer violence to further male characters or provide a plot point. The dead wife, the damsel in distress, the abused lover. As you put it perfectly: violence rooted in sexism. (women are also often caretakers in media, there to put together the brooding complex man who they save because of love or a feminine touch or whatever)

In contrast, whump puts all the focus on the whumpee. The suffering is never trivial or brushed off. It isn't just a way to give another character a reason to do things or to prove a character is "tough and manly"

For me personally, a lot of it is about validation. In the same way men are told to "toughen up", women (and afab people) are often told they're overexaggerating or lying, whether it's chronic pain, mental health, or abuse (especially sexual abuse). But in whump, the pain is always very real. It's not gratuitous. There's never any question about whether the pain was justified or "wasn't that bad".

There's probably a discussion to be had about women being angry and messy but I can't think of the right words to use.

At the end of the day, I love whump because it's a genre and community that embraces characters who we don't get to see a lot in media: whether that's a whimpering man or a woman with ptsd.

For the whump poll about what turns you off from whump fics, I usually feel icked out if there's a female whumpee with a male whumper. I know a kot of whump fans who feel similarly, and we think it's because we're all afab (mix of cis and trans) and tbh the world is just so full of male on female violence, it's kinda a... relief maybe? when the whumpee is male, or when the whumper is female 😅

If you want to find media where a woman suffers violence, the world is your oyster. You can just about turn on any show, watch any movie, read any book, and find it.

Far less do you see women as the perpetrators of violence, so even female whumpers feel like a real novelty in comparison to mass media. Women no do bad wrong thing, women cry sad looking pretty and skinny! 😵

When women are portrayed with real emotion, it’s a woman overwhelmed, scared, often helpless. In the face of danger, hysterical.

There’s a flip side to this.

Male characters are not allowed to have feelings. Angry, sure. But John Wick doesn’t cry. Where are the men hysterical in the face of danger, like the women are? Where are the men sobbing, terrified? Men can still be portrayed as the victim of something, but it’s always the strong silent type bullshit where they make a serious face and throw back whiskey instead of talking about their feelings.

The oversaturation of vulnerable and suffering women in media neatly pairs with the lack of vulnerable and suffering men.

The most common whump writing features vulnerable men. Men who are scared, helpless, struggling. Men who are written with the emotional complexity that is so often denied from them! We constantly see women in media as having no agency, but whump digs deep into the other side - men with no agency. Men who are forced to be obedient. Men forced into submission. How often are female characters subjected to these things? All the time. It’s not rare. That media is bountiful. But for men, it’s the opposite.

A lot of us in whump come here searching for the content that delves into the complexities of this far more limited content.

There is another big thing that hugely impacts this as well: People come to the whump community seeking content that explores the violence and drama WITHOUT A ROOT CAUSE IN SEXISM!!! Violence against women from men is always always always overshadowed by real life sexism that effects so many people every single day.

I think you’re really hitting the nail on the head about why so much whump is focused on male whumpees, and why many of us feel a different discomfort for female whumpees, especially with male whumpers.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!