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You voiced for me so on the spot👍
Ive only had Teo back for Half a Day but if anything happens to him I’m throwing my phone in the ocean and becoming Baba Yaga
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The so called Season 2 only released about 60 days in total so far, but hey OP the staff roll made another nearly full change. Except the solo directing assistant Sooran Lee, the poor OG writer Summer Yoon, and BGM composer ROGIA, other staffs are either changed into complete new team, or only left out with one person. The sections that seems has the same number of staffs before like art team and communication only have 1 staff from last October with others being new. It's really hard to working for Cheritz I guess lol
Cheritz's changes in staff over the lifetime of The Ssum
I wanted to write a post about this because it was the nail in the coffin convincing me that The Ssum won't get better. I really want to be optimistic, I was for the first year of the game's release. But with how hard they're fumbling June's route, and having some context by seeing the dramatic changes that happen behind the scenes, I don't have any hope for the game's future in its original concept.
So here's a big fat list of credits, comparison of them, and my own stupid commentary.
A comparison of the beta OPs credits (2018) vs the new OP credits (April 2022)
Project Directed by-
Sujin Ri (this stays constant)
Project Managed by-
Heinrich Dortmann (this stays constant during the time periods I'm comparing- we'll come back to this later)
Character Model by-
Yuseung An (this credit never appears again so uhhhh)
Game Designed by-
Yoonji Shin, Haeyoung Go (this credit also never appears again)
Project Assisted by-
2018:
Youngtak Lee, Heetae Lee, Yeonwoo Jung, Kyungha Kim, Kyungho Kim, Jihyun Jang, Hyejin Hong, Daniel Hong, Seungiim(?) Hwang, Dakyoung Lee
April 2022:
Heetae Lee, Junghee Choi
Art illustrated by-
2018:
Ilbo Sim, Jinhee Lee, Jihyeon Choi, Hyunju Na, Juhul Kim, Jaehee Hwang, Mirae Kang
April 2022:
Ilbo Sim, Jihyeon Choi, Minji Kim, Mirae Kang, Youngjoo You, Yura Lee
Programmed by-
2018:
Mansu Park, Marcos Arroyo, Rachel Tay, Soonyong Hong, Seungjin Lee, Myungjun Choi
April 2022:
Gunsoo Lee, Kukhwa Park, Moonhyuk Jang, Myungjun Choi, Seungjin Lee, Wonbok Lee, Youngkwon Jeon
Scenario Written by-
2018:
Jinseo Park, Minjeong Kim, E Hyun Kim, Eunchong Jang
April 2022:
Jinseo Park, Lilly Hwang, Minjung Kim, Saerom Shin, Summer Yoon, Youngran Moon
Language Localized by-
2018:
Sunhee Moon, Minkyung Chi, Sungjae Choi, Junhee Kim
April 2022:
Minkyung Chi, Pilhwa Hong, Saenanseul Kim, Sorim Byeon
Sound Resourced by-
2018:
(N/A)
April 2022:
Songhee Kim
Customer Service/Communication with Users by-
2018:
Sunkyeong Yun, Hyeseon Yang
April 2022:
Donghee Yoon, Joyce Hong, Sanghee An, Subin Kim
Credits from 2019
These are in the lyric booklet included in the Teo Love Bundle. Strangely enough, I'm already seeing differences between the 2018 credits and 2019. Uh oh?
As of release + a few months
These screenshots don't feature all the credits, unfortunately. I'm relying on screenshots someone else took because I'm not proactive but hindsight is 20/20.
Changes: Project is no longer managed by Heinrich Dortmann, instead by Juho Woo. Scenario team cut down to 2 people, one of which is a new name (Jooyoung Lim). Art team also cut down to 2 people. Sound is no longer resourced by Songhee Kim, but Jaeryeon Park and ROGIA. All new team of directing assistants as well, it expanded to 4 people but they're all new names. 2 fewer programmers, only one of the listed names was already working.
October 2023 (June's release)
Here's where it somehow gets worse lol.
Changes: A lot. Directing assisted by 1 person. They were not a part of the team credited in the OP. Down to 3 programmers, only 1 being in the OP. Entirely new art team! It's up to 4 people, but all of them are new, even compared to only a few months prior. Down to 1 scenario writer pobrecita (but we're coming back to that). Since I don't have screenshots of the project assistant credits from launch, can't say anything for that, except that Gui Zhenghao is new compared to the OP but the number of staff there remained the same. Flaming Heart is gone for the BGM! He's been working with Cheritz for forever but is gone now. One person from the communication team left, so they're down to 2. That would explain why emails have been slower since October. Only 1 translator, though Cheritz is now looking to recruit new ones.
Important note:
According to Cheritz's post acknowledging their use of gAI, Sujin Ri was not involved in writing season 1 of the game, but IS the main writer for season 2. I won't make a rant about how much I hate what she's writing cuz this isn't the post for that, but it explains why season 2 is so vastly different.
The fact that only a few people (like, in the lower single digits) remain even from 2019/early 2022, let alone who's still around from 2018, is really frustrating for the game. The game started with one vision, but now it's being turned into something completely different. Even the app's functions are inconsistant between season 1 and 2 (and a little so between Harry and Teo). According to an email I got from Cheritz, season 2 takes place a few years before season 1. Just sit with that knowledge for a bit :P. It's like the current people in charge of The Ssum (*cough Sujiin Ri*) couldn't be bothered to keep the original concept in mind, let alone how the timeline would work.
This post was a long time coming, I was caught up in just how bizarre this all is and finding tons of stuff that I haven't even included in the post. Writing this has taken about 3 hours (including the time I spent on a post ONLY FOR TUMBLR TO NOT WANNA WORK PROPERLY WHEN I TRIED TO POST IT SO IT GOT DELETED) and uhhh yeah. Now I gotta wait a few years to ask former staff if their NDAs are expired yet LOL
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“The Ssum: Pocky Day” feat. Teo & “Honey” MC
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I don't care about Harry or June, I need Teo come back to me... I miss him so much 💔😓😢
Maybe I want to talk to Harry but not so much after the traumatic day 200 😓😮💨 With June it's another story, it feels like a love triangle with Henri or maybe Jumin, who is my main husband of all the Otomes I've played so I can't dive into his story because I want to talk about Jumin 😂
I want to talk to Teo about our concerns without having to endure the bad mood or not feeling identified with certain answers because there is not much attachment
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We want Teo's route, we want to continue with his story and see how he fulfills his dream of making a big movie, Just because four people don't care about Teo doesn't mean the rest do too.
Only four people waiting for the new route that was unnecessary at the moment.
We are not asking that they not make other routes, but that they listen to the fans, Cheritz completely ignores their players who have been asking for the continuation of his route for a long time.
People pay subscriptions to want to play with Teo in the future, but they are offering nothing more than silence.
We came to play The Ssum because we were expecting something new and fresh, not a Mystic Messenger 2.0, I know we and you liked that game, but we are playing a totally different game this time
@cheritzteam , please, I ask you to tell us whether or not you are going to continue with Teo's route, that is all we ask, if not, you are going to lose many players.
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You'll burn in hell
[The Ssum] <The Ssum: Love From Today> Second Major Update Schedule Information
Hello, dear lab participant.
Today, we are bringing our lab participants news you’ve been waiting for!
With this notice, in addition to a more detailed update schedule,We would like to inform you of the identity of the “New Ssumone” who appeared in the surprise teaser updated two days ago.
<The Ssum: Love From Today> v2.1.0 Major Update Day
March 27th, 2024 (Wed) KST
As many lab participants may have already noticed, the new Ssumone in The Ssum v2.0 is Henri, who was already in June's story!
Henri, a doctor with a mysterious smile whose true intentions are unknown.
Check out his story through this update.
Also, as always, we are holding a teaser event on X and Instagram.Take the OX quiz about Henri and have a chance to win Aurora Batteries🥰
📍 X Event Link: https://tinyurl.com/yjmxuyrr
📍 Instagram Event Link: https://tinyurl.com/5z3cjhxz
📅 Event Period: ~March 13th, 2024(Wed) 12PM KST
We'll be coming back with a new teaser every week until the update.
We ask for our lab participants’ continued support💕
Thank you.
Cheritz
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Cheritz's claim of not using it on characters, more AI evidence on characters in June's route can be find at @HaiHaina on Twitter/X
[The Ssum] D-2 of Harry’s Ending Update
“You and I, the two of us are….”
Just two more days until you and Harry’s final story unfolds.
ssum.cheritz.com
#omg Cheritz threatening us if we refuse AI they'll not update the game#thessum#cheritz#the ssum#Cheritz the old liar#Cheritz IS using AI on characters#mysmes
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Did you know the new art style is already bleeding into Harry's route?
Some updated pictures from Harry’s route (7/?)
D116
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Just in case you wanna know :) @cheritzteam
(ssum spoilers! I guess, I don't even play that game)
Jumin:
Also jumin:
I heard the SSUM storyline is kind of like an AU for mystic messenger but this is still so funny lol
#ssum#the ssum#cheritz#Cheritz forgetting their own past work#or they just destroys Jumin only to milk him
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YOU GUYS
I got this from: @theholytomato tyyyyy 💕
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Wow, people already sense their problem years ago, yet Cheritz is still indulging in its "Mystic Messenger retirement fund dream" today on the edge of bankruptcy.
The Dunning-Kruger Effect: Cheritz and The Ssum
So
The Ssum was set to release March 31st, 2018.
The day hit and everyone excitedly waited for the game to drop…
to nothing.
An apology and postponement were issued, and a soft-launch demo was to be released April 4th the same year in two countries. Afterwards, the new release date was the end of 2018.
Now normally, these things happen, games can have unexpected results, and bugs can appear last minute. Completely understandable.
However, this isn’t the company’s first offense.
As of now, 2019, it has been over a year since The Ssum’s postponement, with absolutely no comment from Cheritz on the state of the game.
Keep reading
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Waiting for a special ssumone \( ; v ; )/~~~
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One of the reasons why Harry have so many fans is his looks, and Cheritz just destroyed his charm. They said like it's our fault for not barking at their ears everyday how we loved S1 art and story, so only took in haters' voice of wanting more sensational writing with cartoon art. I never thought we need to treat a 10 yrs company like a baby to tell them how we think in every single details. But Cheritz take our undetstanding and peaceful attitude as we don't care, we don't have any opinions of them changing this game into neither fish nor fowl.
No point going for cartoon style if you can't manage Tear of Themis/Light&Night quality like Chinese mobile otome games. No point using money on video calls when you're cutting budget on good artist if you can't make Live 2D similar to Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 3 's level (a more than 10 yrs old game)
I'm sorry why can't the video calls be a toggle!! It feels like they restrict the calls more than anything. There are multiple calls where harry is moving around, one even when he's jerked around in a car. With how rudimentary Cheritz's video calls are, I'd rather have it stay voice only.
Also when that video they posted of harry finally loaded it was a jumpscare the only part i like is this
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Listening to this everyday until they update Teo's story.. ㅠㅠ
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My perfect husband is willing to do the cooking and cleaning 😘
And the way his mother taught him to do so? Good parenting. Teaching your son to be responsible for this, is great. Cheers for cooperative life in household!
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Get yourself a man who's willing to sing and dance cutely just to make you happy 😊🥰💜
Love you, honey 🥰
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