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this is all i can think about while watching the last bit of you didn't know at this point honestly
#hazbin hotel#vaggie#hazbin hotel vaggie#lute#hazbin hotel lute#fallenwings#there's also the way lute backs off when vaggie shoves her away after this#she throws her hands up and everything#so dramatic...#i see right through you lute#i see right through you#anyway sorry the image quality is so bad i had to pass it around to several different places#for various reasons
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^ FALLENWINGS FALLENWINGS FALLENWINGS
LIKE. FUCK
#meposting#been listening to this song on repeat and thinking about Them for a while now#it's like. not only the homophobia but also the gender#in the toxic masculinity for girls way that the exorcists have going on to me#and ALSO the secretive dangerous cult vibes#and ofc there's the one who's open about their feelings and aware of others' yet bitter#with their own set of issues x the#violently repressed one#where they have homoerotic fights that can never lead to anything more because. violent repression#and just the target of the song being incredibly lute-coded in general
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I just daw that you like Live Again as well so you're getting followed.
YES. it's so good...and i see (https://www.tumblr.com/mistystarshine/773235403737153536/hi-this-isnt-an-ask-i-just-wanted-to-say-i-live?source=share) you like the waffle house disaster index, too, which means you DEFINITELY have good taste.
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hi guys welcome to my homestuck au where the power of love and man's best friend triumphs over all
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free my girl. she did all that but so did a male character and nobody cared
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Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Hazbin Hotel (Cartoon) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Major Character Death Relationships: Lute/Vaggie (Hazbin Hotel) Characters: Lute (Hazbin Hotel), Vaggie (Hazbin Hotel) Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Character Study, feat. talking to corpses, the fallenwings is pretty much just implied but still very much There, Angst Summary:
“Any last words?” Lute teases, grin so wide both on and beneath her mask it feels as if her face is going to split apart.
Vaggie opens her mouth to say something, probably something blasphemous that Lute would stab her again for, but only shining golden blood spills out. She coughs: once, twice. Then she sighs one final time and goes still.
Dead. She’s dead.
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A short exploration of a different outcome of Lute and Vaggie's battle in Episode 8.
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I kind of find it annoying that people say that Adam "supports" Vaggie and Charlie's relationship.
He doesn't. He fetishizes their relationship. Vaggie's face is so appropriate. I can only imagine how frustrating and creeped out she felt dealing with a person that is clearly making mental porn of you and the woman you love. This is just another example of the asshole's tendency to use everyone as either a weapon or sex doll.
F*** Adam
#hazbin hotel#adam#lute#vaggie#yes yes yes to all of this#weapon/sex doll thing hits the nail right on the head#also. now i'm thinking about how fucked up vaggie's sexuality might have been before she met charlie#like possible homophobia aside#(although depending on how much of her time she had to spend around adam#and for how much of her (after)life she was in the army/around him#and some other factors)#just. imagine having to be around a man like him who says stuff like he constantly does for an extended period of time#and having him be in a position of POWER over you?#and him getting to name you and control what you wear and possibly what you do on any given day#(especially when he names you something like fucking. VAGINA)#that could totally fuck you up i think#even if it's just subconscious#and! if he actually had a hand in creating the exorcists?#whether by way of specific request for their appearance#or like by way of rib or whatever people theorize#that's just. SO much worse#ughhh just thinking about it makes my skin crawl#so yeah. fuck adam
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I had a vision
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Hazbin hotel/ Fanart/ Vaggie with short hair 🥹🖤☁️
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The way I immediately thought of her
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Best girls, best angels
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okay i want to take a minute to talk about the exact way in which i think lute hates herself because i don't think i really have yet.
(this one ended up pretty long so i'm going to put it under a cut.)
the blueprint (and part of it) is her exact flavor of internalized misogyny. she's a pick-me girl - any woman with even just an amicable relationship with adam is some level of that by default and lute goes the extra mile. and, according to my understanding of the subject, the pick-me girl is characterized by her hatred of women despite being a woman herself and, as a result, desperately trying to distance herself from her idea of shameful femininity and mocking women who don't, often for the purpose (whether conscious or not) of being accepted or given attention by misogynistic men. the pick-me girl forces herself to be a certain way, perhaps a way she didn't really want to be in the first place, because she wants to be able to love herself and be loved in a patriarchal system and doesn't have the awareness or the willpower to fight it. she hates what she is, hates herself, but warps herself and her view of herself and others to escape it.
now i'd like to argue an extension of this principle when it comes to heaven vs. hell.
the storybook opening, regardless of how biased its author may have been as so many people in this fandom like to argue (and they do have a point but some of them take it too far and use it as an excuse to ignore - not the point), presents a clear theme: heaven represents order and obedience while hell represents chaos and freedom. lucifer and lilith are "rebellious dreamers". however, with the way the conflict between adam and lilith is presented, gender is woven into this dichotomy as well. heaven is the patriarchy; hell is the feminist rebellion against it.
(queerness could probably also be incorporated into this model as well, but. this is already an entire fucking essay and it's not extremely relevant to the topic at hand. but it does mean a homophobic homosexual lute would track.)
with this added context, adam and lute hating hell as vehemently as they do - especially with the subtle differences in the way they each do - can be read as, at least to a certain extent, a symbolic + abstract representation of their misogyny.
(something important to note here and maybe something that i just want to talk about, also, is the way vaggie embraces femininity after falling. after falling, she can finally be feminine in the way she want to, not the objectifying and restrictive way that was forced upon her as an exorcist. after what may have been years of healing and encouragement from charlie, she wears a giant puffy bow and does not give a damn. and it's beautiful and i love her for it and i love her so much and - oops got sidetracked there. basically: hell allowed vaggie to express her gender freely. heaven did not. patriarchy. freedom. big bow. pretty woman. i bow and walk off stage.)
and you can kind of see something similar to her internalized misogyny in her hatred of hell. i mean, it is, of course, not a 1:1 comparison given she actually IS an angel, but some elements persist. there is still that desperation to distance herself, even at the cost of basic reasoning ("Angels don't make mistakes"). there is still that forcing herself to be a certain way. there is still that warping of her view of herself and others to escape her self-hatred - or maybe, in this case, a more accurate way to put it would be: to escape her self-hatred-inflicting-guilt and the doubt threatening her unfathomably thick defenses against that guilt. there is still that apparent fight for male - or, in this version of the conflict, angelic - attention, specifically from adam.
(side note 2. a lot of the comparisons i drew here also are/related to stuff characteristic of many cults, which the exorcists - at least as far as the mental and emotional effect on the members goes - functionally are. maybe there is something to be learned there, about the intersection of cults and misogyny/sexism. maybe not. i don't know actually sometimes i straight up have no idea what i'm taking about.)
although, this method of analyzing lute only REALLY gets interesting when you look at her hatred of vaggie with it. vaggie, who was an angel - just like lute is! - once, but is now fallen (for daring to step outside the violent orders that police them, another thing that's mere possibility terrifies lute) - just like lute could be! vaggie, who is happy in hell. who is happy being all of the things lute hates, from perhaps both a heaven vs. hell perspective AND a gender perspective. (and possibly a sexuality perspective too.) and if it is not only possible for an angel to be like this - hellish, and perhaps more importantly FREE - but also for an angel to be HAPPY like this, then. that's fucking horrifying! so she of course doubles down on her hatred and tries to maim/kill vaggie. so that she never has to face this - the reality that the hatred she is consumed by could so easily include herself. that maybe it already does.
and THAT'S why she begs to be killed when she loses the fight in ep. 8, i think. it's a combination of two things: 1. she does not want to face reality and 2. she hates herself. (also she has self-worth issues. did i mention she has self-worth issues? yeah she has self-worth issues. at least when it comes to her compared to adam. natural consequence of being a loyal follower and dedicated lieutenant of someone like him. her self-hatred and self-worth issues are thoroughly intertwined, though, just like vaggie's are.)
that's also why she just fucking. tears off her arm as soon as vaggie leaves, too. she does not care about physical pain or keeping all of her limbs attached, she is far too wrapped up in a. trying to preserve her intensely unhealthy mental state by Not Thinking About Things b. wanting to sacrifice herself in some way, even if it's just losing a limb, because of said mental state c. trying to get to vaggie so she can kill her and be rid of this plague on her conscience d. trying to get to adam too so she can fulfill her desperate (after?)lifelong mission to be of service to him to fill the void inside her caused by her deeply repressed doubt and inner conflict. probably? but then again i'm just a fallenwings girl at heart so idk honestly.
tl;dr: lute hates herself. she makes herself perfect in the way she understands perfection to avoid this. after that, she shoves her hate onto others to distract herself from her own internal conflict and, in some cases (vaggie), she hates others (vaggie) because they (vaggie) exhibit the traits she hates that she has driven out from herself. (although, despite my fixation on fallenwings, this probably extends to other exorcists showing weakness/making mistakes in general.) finally, she works feverishly for approval to reassure her of her place in the grand scheme of things from the man whom she, for reasons brought about by her blind, unquestioning efforts to cling to the version of right and wrong forced upon her and that she has also forced upon herself, views as the paragon of everything she strives for: adam.
she does not fight the system. she breaks herself apart to fit into and work for it.
#hazbin hotel#lute#hazbin hotel lute#yes this is the lute + gender + lute gender thesis#i think i've said most of the stuff i said here in some context before#but that's okay i needed to organize my thoughts anyway#and it's good to have a lute masterpost of sorts#writing this was constantly fluctuating between#“oh yeah it's all coming together”#and “what the FUCK am i talking about”#hope it ended up somewhat reasonable if a tiny bit out there#this ended up being more than a thousand words...#i am so normal about lute#and vaggie#and. adam i guess#i do have more thoughts about him specifically than i let on i think but today is not the day i share them
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umm i need reassurance that my presence is wanted but i can’t ask for reassurance because that’s really Embarrassing and it wouldn’t feel genuine if i asked for it
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writing up a fucking. lute + gender + lute gender thesis get ready guys
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