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The thing that confuses me so much is the sheer lack of empathy transphobes have for trans people. I think it's because they lack empathy for anyone they perceive as male. Viewing this lack of empathy as a fair reaction to the patriarchy. Instead of something blocking us from a true understanding of how the patriarchy affects both men and women in different but awful ways.
And that's giving them the benefit of the doubt. I do think a good few of them are just people who thought transness was confusing and icky and found an ideology to morally justify to themselves the harassment and oppression of those people
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what really gets me about how terfs conduct themselves on the internet is how they take the obvious pushback they experience in LGBTQ spaces (for, y'know, being insufferable bigots) and lean into it and turn it into a 'persecuted wombyn' complex with blog headers like 'bitter badfem' or 'mean old radfem' and stuff like that that frames them as put-upon, unpopular truthers. 'we are the daughters of the witches you couldn't burn' and all that.
and then they turn around and try to hop onto any generic wlw positivity posts they can as if they aren't openly the most nasty annoying people on the internet. i thought you people were supposed to be outcasts. stay gone.
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i’m losing terf followers so please keep unfollowing me :^)
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if you judge whether someone is a t-rf based on if they’re a lesbian or not, fuck you
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As this article points out, TERFs don’t speak for most women in the UK. In fact… well, let’s look at the data collected in this article, shall we?
Based on these stats, TERFs not only don’t represent most women in the UK, they represent the majority of men’s perspective on trans rights. Which, when you consider how TERFs have created a gender binary based on women = good, men = bad, would be ironically hilarious if their bigotry wasn’t literally costing trans lives. The overlap in the venn diagram between patriarchal oppression and TERFs co-opting it is made up of whatever the color of anti-trans violence is.
It’s important, however, to do all we can to make sure more people are aware of this information because not only are misogyny and patriarchy a threat to trans people’s safety as much as TERF ideology is, but for all the women out there who are middle ground because they don’t know enough about the issue, for all the women out there who are confused because it seems like the dominant social conversation is coming from TERFs and they aren’t sure they can do anything, they need to know with confidence: TERF ideology is the minority. Take away the mirage that they represent a silent majority and you take away their power. Mirrors and smoke is all they’ve got, but unfortunately with the right marketing, that can still get people killed.
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Lol forgot for a second that terfs can't be reasoned with cause they're so attached to their toxic and vile ideologies they won't ever be convinced by a trans person that we deserve respect. I'll stop now cause i have better things to do.
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Hi. I have literally never heard of half of the women y'all tout around in your side of the internet. Why? Cause the trans community de-platforms them when they do something bad. You guys are the ones that give them platforms. And yeah bad things happen in communities. Literally every community. The bad things that happen in the trans community aren't unique to it, so why should we say it is? It's almost as if it's cause you want to target a community for something that happens everywhere. It's a problem that needs to be addressed but it's not a trans specific problem.
The average trans person shouldn't have to apologize for the fringe cases. That's like going to a black man and make him apologize for Bill Cosby. Or going to a Cis woman and making her apologize for Ghislaine Maxwell. Should you apologize on behalf of cis people entirely for the fact that in LGBTQ hate crimes resulting in death, 50 percent were against trans women? See my point?
Plus If I would to say MZB should've stayed in the kitchen instead of writing and maybe she wouldn't have done this things- you would defend her yes? It's a blatantly sexist thing I just said, and I'm not affording her basic respect. We both acknowledge that she's an awful person and we both acknowledge that I shouldn't have said that.
Why can't we do the same thing? What makes is different for trans people?
Another thing i wanna mention. Terfs will parade trans people who are bad people all the time and call them emblematic of how we're all morally bankrupt (this is especially layed on thick for trans women)
But they don't do the same thing to cis women who are... Genuinely awful people. I could hold up a picture of Marion Zimmer Bradley and say her actions are emblematic of the lack of morals for cis women, and they would cry that it's a fringe case.
Like hmmm. So you admit a fringe cases doesn't apply to the whole? And it's a double standard?
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Hi! I'm a trans person who experiences transphobia. And there is Intersectionality with my agab and sexuality, but it can also be transphobia. I'm literally talking about intersectionality.
(And also that whole trans women say it's transphobia if cis lesbians don't wanna date em is a straw man created by TERFS to push the rhetoric. Transphobia is far more complex than that)
Here's an example of transphobia i brought up earlier! You seem to have missed it.
There's literally countless cases where someone murders a trans woman and gets away with it cause the justice system defends them. They have laws that allow them to kill trans people. Just period. That's it. They're not sex workers they're just women who wanna go on dates. And their partner kills em. And yes misogyny and homophobia play a big part in it, you're right. This whole fucking post is about intersectionality after all. Yes the conversation on how police demonize and ignore sex workers is an important one and one I think about a lot, but I never brought up sex work did I?
And wanna know how cis women contribute? They're the ones who throw their daughters out of the house for the wolves. They're the ones using their (often white) womanhood to spread rhetoric about these vulnerable girls that puts them in even more danger. They may not be murdering these girls but they're still killing them in that way. they're the ones that put us on a pedestal and analyze and scrutinize trans people at every single turn. They're the ones that have us debating our right to exist without constantly being calling terrible things. And on a personal note to you it's fucking heartless the way you dismiss what cis women do to hurt these girls and women.
And I'm mad. Because you're probably not gonna listen to me are you? I'm making good points and thinking this through. And you're not gonna listen cause you're so hard set on your opinion. I think you're a smart person, and I hope you pull yourself outside of this shriveled up and souless hole of hate and faux feminism. But i won't be the one to convince you. That change comes in you, and frankly it's not my job to be nice to you anymore. You're all just gonna spread this post as a case of the smart terf being smarter than this dumb kid. And that's disappointing isn't it? You reduce me to a straw man who needs to be educated. Putting words in my mouth i never said for your own point. That's disappointing.
So basically, fuck off and get some critical thinking skills. Lol i don't wanna debate you when you want me and people i know to live in misery.
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Another thing i wanna mention. Terfs will parade trans people who are bad people all the time and call them emblematic of how we're all morally bankrupt (this is especially layed on thick for trans women)
But they don't do the same thing to cis women who are... Genuinely awful people. I could hold up a picture of Marion Zimmer Bradley and say her actions are emblematic of the lack of morals for cis women, and they would cry that it's a fringe case.
Like hmmm. So you admit a fringe cases doesn't apply to the whole? And it's a double standard?
#dont turn this into a gotcha with me that this also applies to yall. you guys are literally the fringe case for feminism#anti terf
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Intersectionality is the way two different identities interact with each other and create a new experience that is unique to itself
A black woman gets rejected by many jobs not because she's black, or a woman, but because she's both. That's intersectionality.
Trans black people face their own unique issues. Did you know countless black trans women were murdered these past two years, the police dismissed their cases as suicides. Did you know it's harder to get identification when you're trans? If you die somewhere where people don't know you, you're far more likely to go unamed cause of systemic transphobia and isolation.
These situations aren't cause they're women, but because they're trans women. Add another layer of racial intersectionality, and you see that they're not getting hurt cause they're black, or women, but cause they're black trans women.
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So I haven't really seen it talked about before but every single caricature I've ever seen a transmed draw of a "tucute" or "trender" has drawn said tucute as fat and short, while their "real trans man" they draw to compare it with is generally tall and thin. Which is. Hmm.
It just really says something about what they really think a trans man should be. I'm transmasc, and I am short and fat. Am I considered a tucute, then? If they saw me in the street, wearing a skirt as I often do, would they assume I am a trender?
I'm on testosterone. Not because of dysphoria, but because of euphoria. The only dysphoria I really get is social chest dysphoria. I am growing facial hair and have a deepening voice. Am I a fake trans because I don't have "real" dysphoria? What is enough for these people? Do they want me to embrace misery and constantly whine about the dysphoria I DO have, dress in a way they think is acceptable for a Real Transman? Would they expect me to dress to a strict Man-Gender dress code if I were a cis man? Or do they claim to be okay with cis men in dresses and make-up? If they are, why can't a trans man wear those things?
And if they think a trans man CAN wear those things, where do they draw the line? Must this trans man bind his chest? Must he be on testosterone? Where is the line? What is trans enough for them?
I don't bind. Does that make me a trender? Would they assume I was a trender because of this?
I don't bind for medical reasons. I tell them this, I am less likely to be called a trender. But why do I have to divulge my medical history to please gatekeepers?
I plan to get top surgery because I can't bind. I shouldn't need to tell them this. It's long been known that asking about "the surgery" is rude and transphobic - why does that not apply here?
I want them to be able to look me in the eye and tell me that they wouldn't judge me more harshly as a far trans person, because my boobs are bigger and my curves more pronounced. If I was more flat chested, would they really judge me the same for not binding? Would they even realise or care that I wasn't? How much of their transmedicalism is rooted in internalised fatphobia? I want people to genuinely think about this and try to be honest with themselves about it.
Where do they draw the lines for different body types? Unpack your fatphobia. This is simply another form of the narrative that fat people need to hyper-perform their gender to be considered attractive - fat women in expensive dresses and gorgeous make-up, fat men in tailored suits - how often do you see a fat person in jeans and a t-shirt getting fawned over on the internet? Why are these expectations even higher for fat trans people?
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Bitches be like “I’m panphobic” go outside and get a hobby, goddamn.
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Get the hell off my post you clown. 🤡
Transmedicalism? More like selective transphobia.
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